Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 BE VERY CAUTIOUS OF THESE PEOPLE!THEY ARE A NIGHTMARE!!! next time,if they come back,insist that if they wanna see your son,they can talk to him and you OUTSIDE.The minute they get in the house,they start judging you and finding things wrong.The constitution states there can be no search and seizure without a warrant,so they can't come in uninvited,and when you do talk to them,try to have someone there with you.They like to lie ALOT,and if caught in a mistake,they will NEVER admit to being wrong,even if their mistakes tear up a family.I'm gonna prviately email you my phone number or you can send me yours and I will talk to you and let you my experince with them. CPS - Help! > our old neighbor is trying to get us into trouble. every time our > children are making noise like playing and laughing he is kicking our > door. once my hubby came home from shopping, and didn't realize the > door closed behind him, leaving Tzippy (our 2 year old daughter) > outside. I am deaf, so I didn't hear anything until our neighbor > banged our door. > > Today 2 CPS ladies come in, they asked for names, and asked for name > of doctor and said we have a report of neglecting children by sitting > by computer all day and locking children outside. > They asked where our children sleep, who is the doctor > gosh , if they find out we are not going to he doctor routinely for > immunizations then what? > my daughter was diagnosed with high lead in her blood and we treated > her naturally and checked her blood again in the state's blood > checking but never told me the results.. > so now if they find we did 'nothing' didn't take the doctor's medicine > for lead... > what can we do? they want to come again to see our older son, age 4. > he wasn't home as he had playdate with his best friend. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Whenever you talk to them, have at least a digital recorder or something simular, perhaps a videocamera as well documenting everything they say and do. Some of these workers will twist words and will lie to suit their needs. I wish you the best in dealing with them. I really like the idea of keeping them outside as much as possible. The question to ask is can they legally force you to give personal medical information out? I dont think they can but you need to find out. April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 CALL A LAWYER! Do NOT let them in and do NOT tell them anything. You don't have to let them in without a warrant, so call that lawyer asap! I would also try to get ahold of the second lead tests. Did you have any help in the lead treatment, like a homeopath? If so, then that counts as doing something. They take advantage of the fact that not many people know exactly what their rights are, that is why a lawyer is important. -- Sara Proud Mama to Colin 12/07/99 Jack 8/07/02 -------------- Original message -------------- From: " saragubits " <saragubits@...> our old neighbor is trying to get us into trouble. every time our children are making noise like playing and laughing he is kicking our door. once my hubby came home from shopping, and didn't realize the door closed behind him, leaving Tzippy (our 2 year old daughter) outside. I am deaf, so I didn't hear anything until our neighbor banged our door. Today 2 CPS ladies come in, they asked for names, and asked for name of doctor and said we have a report of neglecting children by sitting by computer all day and locking children outside. They asked where our children sleep, who is the doctor gosh , if they find out we are not going to he doctor routinely for immunizations then what? my daughter was diagnosed with high lead in her blood and we treated her naturally and checked her blood again in the state's blood checking but never told me the results.. so now if they find we did 'nothing' didn't take the doctor's medicine for lead... what can we do? they want to come again to see our older son, age 4. he wasn't home as he had playdate with his best friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 someone told me that we tell them to speak with our counselor. they ca'nt do anything when they are told this. we called cops harassment complaint. The cops told me when the CPS ladies come to my home tmw to see our older son, don't sign the paepr form. tell them I need interpreter (we are hearing impaired). and I will say they need to speak with my counselor. we are reported as me using the computer all of the time while ignoring and neglecting my children. Its not true. I am leaving the computer online because we are deaf, and people sometimes instant message us so for us its like a phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I am so sorry you are going through this. I used to work for CPS in Indiana for about 3 years and I would go on investigations. What you described is not child abuse in anyway, I am actually surprised they even took a report and came out to your home. The reports are usually screened pretty well before sending someone out. Unfortunately is all depends on the worker that is called to your home. The questions they asked you are very weird; I never asked who a child's doctor was unless the report was about physical abuse. Did they show you ID and give you a card?? I would explain about your neighbor and hopefully they will understand and the neighbor will be flagged for calling in false child abuse report (which is a criminal offense). I would consult with an attorney, even though I do not think you are in any danger. On another note, what happened with your daughter? What treatment did you use and what was her lead level & how is she doing now. Good luck and try not to worry to much. Sincerely Townes CPS - Help! our old neighbor is trying to get us into trouble. every time our children are making noise like playing and laughing he is kicking our door. once my hubby came home from shopping, and didn't realize the door closed behind him, leaving Tzippy (our 2 year old daughter) outside. I am deaf, so I didn't hear anything until our neighbor banged our door. Today 2 CPS ladies come in, they asked for names, and asked for name of doctor and said we have a report of neglecting children by sitting by computer all day and locking children outside. They asked where our children sleep, who is the doctor gosh , if they find out we are not going to he doctor routinely for immunizations then what? my daughter was diagnosed with high lead in her blood and we treated her naturally and checked her blood again in the state's blood checking but never told me the results.. so now if they find we did 'nothing' didn't take the doctor's medicine for lead... what can we do? they want to come again to see our older son, age 4. he wasn't home as he had playdate with his best friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 The neighbor is trying to make us look bad as we are abusing and neglecting our children. he probably told them we are beating them up as they cry alot, which is NOT true. He also brought the incident when my daughter was outside when my husband came from shopping not realizing the door slammed behind him leaving her behind. so he made it as a proof we are locking our children outside. sometimes as any siblings, my children fight and my daughter is crying about anything. For example if my son grabbs her toy, she comes to me wailing. yes they came showed their ID card. and we explained about our neighbor but they expressed disinterest. they said they are not involved wiht the source of the complaint. they got complaint and their job is to take care of it. about the lead level, we got her tested again in the summer by health department that offered free lead testing. But they never contacted us for the results, and we dont' know whom to contact for the results. What could we do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hi and welcome to the group, I must of missed you coming in, I am an Interpreter for the Deaf, have been since 1976. What state are you in? I am in Western NY. I have TTY but not the other. Western NY -- Re: CPS - Help! someone told me that we tell them to speak with our counselor. they ca'nt do anything when they are told this. we called cops harassment complaint. The cops told me when the CPS ladies come to my home tmw to see our older son, don't sign the paepr form. tell them I need interpreter (we are hearing impaired). and I will say they need to speak with my counselor. we are reported as me using the computer all of the time while ignoring and neglecting my children. Its not true. I am leaving the computer online because we are deaf, and people sometimes instant message us so for us its like a phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 My mail didn't come through, wonder if it is the mail system I have, it has changed. I am an Interpreter for the Deaf and welcome to the group! Missed you come in to the group, where you live? Western NY -- Re: CPS - Help! someone told me that we tell them to speak with our counselor. they ca'nt do anything when they are told this. we called cops harassment complaint. The cops told me when the CPS ladies come to my home tmw to see our older son, don't sign the paepr form. tell them I need interpreter (we are hearing impaired). and I will say they need to speak with my counselor. we are reported as me using the computer all of the time while ignoring and neglecting my children. Its not true. I am leaving the computer online because we are deaf, and people sometimes instant message us so for us its like a phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'm so sorry that you all are involved in this!! CPS is absolutely horrible, aweful, dreadful, terrible!!!! Yes, of course there are the exceptions when they've actually done some good, but as I said, in my experience this is the exception. Of course I also live in Florida...the worst state for children to live in if they're involved with the gov't in any way (school, cps, medicaid, etc.). Not to completely freak you out, but my friend's 6 month old baby was taken away from her for three days, without warning, because there was a possibility that she was going to be evicted. My advice as far as the doctor goes is know your rights. Don't just say you know that it's legal to do this or that, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! Find out what statues they are, have documents ready, etc. If you sound like you know what you're talking about and have " evidence " to back it up, they will back down. And for future reference regarding medicine, when my son's ped. has recommended antibiotics of some sort, I've always had the prescriptions filled, and I keep the receipts to prove it. I was scared too much with my friend's situation to be lazy about documentation. Oh and yes, RECORD EVERYTHING! if possible, with a video tape. That is what my friend did and that's the way she was able to get her baby back. HTH, Devin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 i have no idea what your talking about, i think u sent this to the wrong person. Devin <UBBNatural@...> wrote: I'm so sorry that you all are involved in this!! CPS is absolutely horrible, aweful, dreadful, terrible!!!! Yes, of course there are the exceptions when they've actually done some good, but as I said, in my experience this is the exception. Of course I also live in Florida...the worst state for children to live in if they're involved with the gov't in any way (school, cps, medicaid, etc.). Not to completely freak you out, but my friend's 6 month old baby was taken away from her for three days, without warning, because there was a possibility that she was going to be evicted. My advice as far as the doctor goes is know your rights. Don't just say you know that it's legal to do this or that, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! Find out what statues they are, have documents ready, etc. If you sound like you know what you're talking about and have " evidence " to back it up, they will back down. And for future reference regarding medicine, when my son's ped. has recommended antibiotics of some sort, I've always had the prescriptions filled, and I keep the receipts to prove it. I was scared too much with my friend's situation to be lazy about documentation. Oh and yes, RECORD EVERYTHING! if possible, with a video tape. That is what my friend did and that's the way she was able to get her baby back. HTH, Devin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Dear Sara, I have not read the other excellent responses I'm sure you've had because I am way behind in my e-mail. Hubby and son have both been sick with the flu. All states allow some form of exemption from vaccinations, you don't say which state you are in, so I can't be of much more help to you in that regard. I have posted a great deal of information on my website regarding what to do and what not to do when CPS comes calling. Be sure you know your rights before attempting to deal with this situation. http://ReliableAnswers.com/cps/ Feel free to e-mail me off-list if you have any further questions. I'd be happy to help. ~Annette M. Hall http://ReliableAnswers.com/ http://LocalHS.com -----Original Message----- From: saragubits I am deaf, so I didn't hear anything until our neighbor banged our door. ...if they find out we are not going to he doctor routinely for immunizations then what? they want to come again to see our older son, age 4. he wasn't home as he had playdate with his best friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Never allow them in the house without a duly signed warrant and never allow them access to your children. Allow them to SEE the children through a window and then take them to the doctor or other medical professional for an exam at the earliest possible moment, to document their wellness. Even if the police are present, they MUST have a warrant or you DO NOT have to let them into your home. ~Annette M. Hall http://ReliableAnswers.com/ http://LocalHS.com -----Original Message----- From: melissa royce BE VERY CAUTIOUS OF THESE PEOPLE!THEY ARE A NIGHTMARE!!! next time,if they come back,insist that if they wanna see your son,they can talk to him and you OUTSIDE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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