Re: get ready to be angry....

January 23, 2006

Vaccination, forced or not, is government establishing religion, an

obvious violation of the 1st Amendment.

Dan

http://www.satanicvaccines.com

January 23, 2006

" Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

vaccinated

children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it from a child

with a

religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15 "

Okay so even if you have been vaccinated you can still contract measles?

>

> www.childhealth.org/legal

>

> some snippets

>

> " Sec. 5-109(h) of the MSPHA provides religious and philosophical

exemptions from vaccination. CHILD opposes such exemptions for

children. As discussed above, these exemptions are not mandated by

the Constitution, and some courts have ruled certain exemption laws a

violation of the First Amendment Establishment Clause. "

>

> "

> Immunizations are the most cost-effective measure in all of

medical science. They have eliminated ancient scourges that used to

kill thousands of children. All children deserve the benefits of

immunizations (unless medically contraindicated).

>

> Vaccine opponents are making a nationally organized effort to get

philosophical or conscientious exemptions from immuniza & shy;tions into

state codes. Their efforts are usually strenuously opposed by state

medical associations and chapters of the American Academy of

Pediatrics. Having philo & shy;sophi & shy;cal exemptions stand in a

national model public health law would be a major triumph for vaccine

opponents. "

>

> "

> A recent article in the Journal of the American Medical

Association (JAMA) indicates that children claiming a religious or

philosophical exemption from immuniza & shy;tions are 35 times more

likely to contract measles than a vaccinated child.[14] Measles is

not a trivial illness. Thousands of children used to die every year

from measles; many others were disabled by encephalitis, blindness,

and other serious complications from the disease. We think it is

unethical for the state to allow some children to have a 3500% higher

risk of contracting measles than others.

>

> Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

vaccinated children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it

from a child with a religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15]

>

> Children with religious or philosophical exemptions from

immunizations also pose a grave risk to immunocompromised children.

Each year 12,400 U.S. children are diag & shy;nosed with cancer, and

many of them remain in school during treatment. Children with cancer,

AIDS, and other diseases may have medical exemptions from

immuniza & shy;tions. It is not fair to them to have children around

them who are unimmunized because of their parents' beliefs. As one

mother of a cancer patient said, " I don't think my son should have to

go to school with a mask over his face. "

>

> Young children in daycare are two to three times more likely to

contract illness than children who remain at home. Unvaccinated

carriers among them increase the risk of illness.

>

> The financial cost of not immunizing children can be very high.

The medical bills to save the life of one Amish child who contracted

tetanus in 1997 were $600,000. The Amish community refused to apply

for government assis & shy;tance and was able to pay only 10% of the

bill.[16] "

>

> "

> We also wish to point out that " herd immunity " is not the only

purpose of vaccination programs. Tetanus is not a contagious disease,

yet we require children to be immunized against tetanus. Rubella is a

mild disease, but we require children to be immunized against rubella

in order to prevent severe damage to a fetus who may be conceived

decades later. The hepatitis B vaccine prevents liver cancer. It is

the only vaccine we have that does prevent cancer.

>

> The suggestion that state health officials should be content to

aim for " herd immu & shy;ni & shy;ty " is therefore morally untenable. The

hallmark of education policy today is that no child should be left

behind, no child should be denied the benefit of state laws and state

services relating to this basic aspect of their development. This

principle applies equally to children's health, and the nation's

leading health experts should be advocating forcefully for application

of that principle to health care.

>

> Fear and misunderstanding of immunizations do seem more prominent

today, but we do not believe religious or philosophical exemptions to

immunizations are the solution. In fact, such exemptions often

increase resentment that some groups are exempted and others not.

>

> Instead, we should do more to educate the public about the purpose

and benefits of immunizations. Which vaccines are mandated should be

determined by a public hearing process so that the public has the

opportunity to discuss the merits of mandating them. Pediatrics

professor recommends that legisla & shy;tures mandate

only vaccines that " protect against highly contagious diseases that

cause significant morbidity and mortality and can be prevented. " [17]

In addition to such vaccines, we would add tetanus. It is not a

contagious disease, but tetanus bacteria are ubiquitous in the natural

environment.

>

> CHILD recommends that Sec. 5-109(h) allowing religious and

philosophical exemptions from childhood immunizations be deleted from

the MSPHA. A partial list of outbreaks of vaccine-preventable

diseases among children with religious and philosophical exemptions

and the American Medical Association's position these exemptions are

included as enclosures with this letter. "

>

> , wife to , homeschooling SAHM to

> DS 7, DD 4, DS 3, and DS 16 mo.

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

> Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it!

>

January 23, 2006

What is MSPHA (last sentence)?

Sheri B.

zoies_momhrhs <zoies_momhrhs@...> wrote:

" Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

vaccinated

children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it from a child

with a

religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15 "

Okay so even if you have been vaccinated you can still contract measles?

>

> www.childhealth.org/legal

>

> some snippets

>

> " Sec. 5-109(h) of the MSPHA provides religious and philosophical

exemptions from vaccination. CHILD opposes such exemptions for

children. As discussed above, these exemptions are not mandated by

the Constitution, and some courts have ruled certain exemption laws a

violation of the First Amendment Establishment Clause. "

>

> "

> Immunizations are the most cost-effective measure in all of

medical science. They have eliminated ancient scourges that used to

kill thousands of children. All children deserve the benefits of

immunizations (unless medically contraindicated).

>

> Vaccine opponents are making a nationally organized effort to get

philosophical or conscientious exemptions from immuniza & shy;tions into

state codes. Their efforts are usually strenuously opposed by state

medical associations and chapters of the American Academy of

Pediatrics. Having philo & shy;sophi & shy;cal exemptions stand in a

national model public health law would be a major triumph for vaccine

opponents. "

>

> "

> A recent article in the Journal of the American Medical

Association (JAMA) indicates that children claiming a religious or

philosophical exemption from immuniza & shy;tions are 35 times more

likely to contract measles than a vaccinated child.[14] Measles is

not a trivial illness. Thousands of children used to die every year

from measles; many others were disabled by encephalitis, blindness,

and other serious complications from the disease. We think it is

unethical for the state to allow some children to have a 3500% higher

risk of contracting measles than others.

>

> Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

vaccinated children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it

from a child with a religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15]

>

> Children with religious or philosophical exemptions from

immunizations also pose a grave risk to immunocompromised children.

Each year 12,400 U.S. children are diag & shy;nosed with cancer, and

many of them remain in school during treatment. Children with cancer,

AIDS, and other diseases may have medical exemptions from

immuniza & shy;tions. It is not fair to them to have children around

them who are unimmunized because of their parents' beliefs. As one

mother of a cancer patient said, " I don't think my son should have to

go to school with a mask over his face. "

>

> Young children in daycare are two to three times more likely to

contract illness than children who remain at home. Unvaccinated

carriers among them increase the risk of illness.

>

> The financial cost of not immunizing children can be very high.

The medical bills to save the life of one Amish child who contracted

tetanus in 1997 were $600,000. The Amish community refused to apply

for government assis & shy;tance and was able to pay only 10% of the

bill.[16] "

>

> "

> We also wish to point out that " herd immunity " is not the only

purpose of vaccination programs. Tetanus is not a contagious disease,

yet we require children to be immunized against tetanus. Rubella is a

mild disease, but we require children to be immunized against rubella

in order to prevent severe damage to a fetus who may be conceived

decades later. The hepatitis B vaccine prevents liver cancer. It is

the only vaccine we have that does prevent cancer.

>

> The suggestion that state health officials should be content to

aim for " herd immu & shy;ni & shy;ty " is therefore morally untenable. The

hallmark of education policy today is that no child should be left

behind, no child should be denied the benefit of state laws and state

services relating to this basic aspect of their development. This

principle applies equally to children's health, and the nation's

leading health experts should be advocating forcefully for application

of that principle to health care.

>

> Fear and misunderstanding of immunizations do seem more prominent

today, but we do not believe religious or philosophical exemptions to

immunizations are the solution. In fact, such exemptions often

increase resentment that some groups are exempted and others not.

>

> Instead, we should do more to educate the public about the purpose

and benefits of immunizations. Which vaccines are mandated should be

determined by a public hearing process so that the public has the

opportunity to discuss the merits of mandating them. Pediatrics

professor recommends that legisla & shy;tures mandate

only vaccines that " protect against highly contagious diseases that

cause significant morbidity and mortality and can be prevented. " [17]

In addition to such vaccines, we would add tetanus. It is not a

contagious disease, but tetanus bacteria are ubiquitous in the natural

environment.

>

> CHILD recommends that Sec. 5-109(h) allowing religious and

philosophical exemptions from childhood immunizations be deleted from

the MSPHA. A partial list of outbreaks of vaccine-preventable

diseases among children with religious and philosophical exemptions

and the American Medical Association's position these exemptions are

included as enclosures with this letter. "

>

> , wife to , homeschooling SAHM to

> DS 7, DD 4, DS 3, and DS 16 mo.

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

> Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it!

>

January 23, 2006

Hello All - I spent the past hour researching this - and please be advised, I am

not an attorney, but, I will be going off of common sense, and past court

decisions. The below text is also a persons' opinion from a legal source - I'm

only copying " part " of it, because it is quite lengthily, however, those

interested, the link is also available should you choose to go read it in full

text.

I also went and read the bill of rights. And, the gentleman below is correct

at saying that exemption are not guaranteed by the Constitution. Continue

reading before you get angry.

That said, I must state, and I don't care who I offend, that my personal

beliefs is that abortion, (only in the instance of rape, considering the sexual

act was not consent) is murder.

However, in the decision of Roe vs. Wade, the judge ruled on instances in the

constitution where items were not spelled out, however, they were " implied " . If

we are to accept this at face value, and Roe vs. Wade is still the law of the

land, ruling it unconstitutional for a woman's right to be denied to an abortion

based on medical privacy, and the right to ones' body, then, we must also

assume, that a parent/guardian acting in parentis of a minor has an equal say to

the right of their wards' body. The below statement from CHILD then, in my

opinion is not only questionable, but could be challenged. And now that I've

read the " implied rights " from the Roe v. Wade decision, I'm curious to know if

cases that DHS has got involved in over parents not vaccinating their child, or,

seeking chemo, etc... could also be challenged. This may not be a bad topic for

an attorney to interpret.

http://www.rightgrrl.com/carolyn/roe.html

There are unmentioned, yet fundamental rights within the Constitution

The lack of a specific mention of a certain right doesn't mean it does not

exist.

These unmentioned, fundamental rights, can not be restricted, and the 14th

Amendment applies this restriction to the states.

The " right to privacy " was one of these rights which is not mentioned, but

implied within the Constitution.

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Message: 18

Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:59:27 -0800 (PST)

From: Craven <cravenab00@...>

Subject: get ready to be angry....

www.childhealth.org/legal

some snippets

" Sec. 5-109(h) of the MSPHA provides religious and philosophical

exemptions from vaccination. CHILD opposes such exemptions for children.

As discussed above, these exemptions are not mandated by the

Constitution, and some courts have ruled certain exemption laws a violation of

the First Amendment Establishment Clause. "

"

Immunizations are the most cost-effective measure in all of medical

science. They have eliminated ancient scourges that used to kill

thousands of children. All children deserve the benefits of immunizations

(unless medically contraindicated).

Vaccine opponents are making a nationally organized effort to get

philosophical or conscientious exemptions from immuniza & shy;tions into

state codes. Their efforts are usually strenuously opposed by state

medical associations and chapters of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

Having philo & shy;sophi & shy;cal exemptions stand in a national model

public health law would be a major triumph for vaccine opponents. "

"

A recent article in the Journal of the American Medical Association

(JAMA) indicates that children claiming a religious or philosophical

exemption from immuniza & shy;tions are 35 times more likely to contract

measles than a vaccinated child.[14] Measles is not a trivial illness.

Thousands of children used to die every year from measles; many others

were disabled by encephalitis, blindness, and other serious

complications from the disease. We think it is unethical for the state to allow

some children to have a 3500% higher risk of contracting measles than

others.

Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

vaccinated children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it from a

child with a religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15]

Children with religious or philosophical exemptions from

immunizations also pose a grave risk to immunocompromised children. Each year

12,400 U.S. children are diag & shy;nosed with cancer, and many of them

remain in school during treatment. Children with cancer, AIDS, and other

diseases may have medical exemptions from immuniza & shy;tions. It is not

fair to them to have children around them who are unimmunized because

of their parents’ beliefs. As one mother of a cancer patient said, “I

don’t think my son should have to go to school with a mask over his

face.”

Young children in daycare are two to three times more likely to

contract illness than children who remain at home. Unvaccinated carriers

among them increase the risk of illness.

The financial cost of not immunizing children can be very high. The

medical bills to save the life of one Amish child who contracted

tetanus in 1997 were $600,000. The Amish community refused to apply for

government assis & shy;tance and was able to pay only 10% of the bill.[16] "

"

We also wish to point out that “herd immunity” is not the only

purpose of vaccination programs. Tetanus is not a contagious disease, yet we

require children to be immunized against tetanus. Rubella is a mild

disease, but we require children to be immunized against rubella in order

to prevent severe damage to a fetus who may be conceived decades later.

The hepatitis B vaccine prevents liver cancer. It is the only vaccine

we have that does prevent cancer.

The suggestion that state health officials should be content to aim

for “herd immu & shy;ni & shy;ty” is therefore morally untenable. The

hallmark of education policy today is that no child should be left behind,

no child should be denied the benefit of state laws and state services

relating to this basic aspect of their development. This principle

applies equally to children’s health, and the nation’s leading health

experts should be advocating forcefully for application of that principle to

health care.

Fear and misunderstanding of immunizations do seem more prominent

today, but we do not believe religious or philosophical exemptions to

immunizations are the solution. In fact, such exemptions often increase

resentment that some groups are exempted and others not.

Instead, we should do more to educate the public about the purpose

and benefits of immunizations. Which vaccines are mandated should be

determined by a public hearing process so that the public has the

opportunity to discuss the merits of mandating them. Pediatrics professor

recommends that legisla & shy;tures mandate only vaccines

that “protect against highly contagious diseases that cause significant

morbidity and mortality and can be prevented.”[17] In addition to such

vaccines, we would add tetanus. It is not a contagious disease, but

tetanus bacteria are ubiquitous in the natural environment.

CHILD recommends that Sec. 5-109(h) allowing religious and

philosophical exemptions from childhood immunizations be deleted from the MSPHA.

A partial list of outbreaks of vaccine-preventable diseases among

children with religious and philosophical exemptions and the American

Medical Association’s position these exemptions are included as enclosures

with this letter. "

, wife to , homeschooling SAHM to

DS 7, DD 4, DS 3, and DS 16 mo.

January 23, 2006

At 08:22 PM 1/23/2006 -0000, you wrote:

> " Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

>vaccinated

>children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it from a child

>with a

>religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15 "

>

>Okay so even if you have been vaccinated you can still contract measles? >

And where di that child with an exemption get it from.

This is always so ludicrous.

Where did the first case of measle come from

Kind of like angels on the head of the pin question?

Or who created GOD?

Of course you can contract measles vaccinated - the vaccine does not give

immunity

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

January 23, 2006

They withhold the truth to cover up lies to continue the fear.

Anita

zoies_momhrhs <zoies_momhrhs@...> wrote:

" Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

vaccinated

children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it from a child

with a

religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15 "

Okay so even if you have been vaccinated you can still contract measles?

>

> www.childhealth.org/legal

>

> some snippets

>

> " Sec. 5-109(h) of the MSPHA provides religious and philosophical

exemptions from vaccination. CHILD opposes such exemptions for

children. As discussed above, these exemptions are not mandated by

the Constitution, and some courts have ruled certain exemption laws a

violation of the First Amendment Establishment Clause. "

>

> "

> Immunizations are the most cost-effective measure in all of

medical science. They have eliminated ancient scourges that used to

kill thousands of children. All children deserve the benefits of

immunizations (unless medically contraindicated).

>

> Vaccine opponents are making a nationally organized effort to get

philosophical or conscientious exemptions from immuniza & shy;tions into

state codes. Their efforts are usually strenuously opposed by state

medical associations and chapters of the American Academy of

Pediatrics. Having philo & shy;sophi & shy;cal exemptions stand in a

national model public health law would be a major triumph for vaccine

opponents. "

>

> "

> A recent article in the Journal of the American Medical

Association (JAMA) indicates that children claiming a religious or

philosophical exemption from immuniza & shy;tions are 35 times more

likely to contract measles than a vaccinated child.[14] Measles is

not a trivial illness. Thousands of children used to die every year

from measles; many others were disabled by encephalitis, blindness,

and other serious complications from the disease. We think it is

unethical for the state to allow some children to have a 3500% higher

risk of contracting measles than others.

>

> Another recent JAMA article indicates that at least 11% of the

vaccinated children in Colorado who contracted measles acquired it

from a child with a religious or philosophi & shy;cal exemption.[15]

>

> Children with religious or philosophical exemptions from

immunizations also pose a grave risk to immunocompromised children.

Each year 12,400 U.S. children are diag & shy;nosed with cancer, and

many of them remain in school during treatment. Children with cancer,

AIDS, and other diseases may have medical exemptions from

immuniza & shy;tions. It is not fair to them to have children around

them who are unimmunized because of their parents' beliefs. As one

mother of a cancer patient said, " I don't think my son should have to

go to school with a mask over his face. "

>

> Young children in daycare are two to three times more likely to

contract illness than children who remain at home. Unvaccinated

carriers among them increase the risk of illness.

>

> The financial cost of not immunizing children can be very high.

The medical bills to save the life of one Amish child who contracted

tetanus in 1997 were $600,000. The Amish community refused to apply

for government assis & shy;tance and was able to pay only 10% of the

bill.[16] "

>

> "

> We also wish to point out that " herd immunity " is not the only

purpose of vaccination programs. Tetanus is not a contagious disease,

yet we require children to be immunized against tetanus. Rubella is a

mild disease, but we require children to be immunized against rubella

in order to prevent severe damage to a fetus who may be conceived

decades later. The hepatitis B vaccine prevents liver cancer. It is

the only vaccine we have that does prevent cancer.

>

> The suggestion that state health officials should be content to

aim for " herd immu & shy;ni & shy;ty " is therefore morally untenable. The

hallmark of education policy today is that no child should be left

behind, no child should be denied the benefit of state laws and state

services relating to this basic aspect of their development. This

principle applies equally to children's health, and the nation's

leading health experts should be advocating forcefully for application

of that principle to health care.

>

> Fear and misunderstanding of immunizations do seem more prominent

today, but we do not believe religious or philosophical exemptions to

immunizations are the solution. In fact, such exemptions often

increase resentment that some groups are exempted and others not.

>

> Instead, we should do more to educate the public about the purpose

and benefits of immunizations. Which vaccines are mandated should be

determined by a public hearing process so that the public has the

opportunity to discuss the merits of mandating them. Pediatrics

professor recommends that legisla & shy;tures mandate

only vaccines that " protect against highly contagious diseases that

cause significant morbidity and mortality and can be prevented. " [17]

In addition to such vaccines, we would add tetanus. It is not a

contagious disease, but tetanus bacteria are ubiquitous in the natural

environment.

>

> CHILD recommends that Sec. 5-109(h) allowing religious and

philosophical exemptions from childhood immunizations be deleted from

the MSPHA. A partial list of outbreaks of vaccine-preventable

diseases among children with religious and philosophical exemptions

and the American Medical Association's position these exemptions are

included as enclosures with this letter. "

>

> , wife to , homeschooling SAHM to

> DS 7, DD 4, DS 3, and DS 16 mo.

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

> Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it!

>

January 23, 2006

Randi,

So where is this in any type of legislation move right now? I'm a little

confused as to what organization this is and what the process would be/is.

Would you mind clarifying? What can we be doing on our end to confront this?

Sheri B.

Randi Airola <randiceaj@...> wrote:

Hello All - I spent the past hour researching this - and please be advised, I

am not an attorney, but, I will be going off of common sense, and past court