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Re: Bad vaccines may trigger bird flu: expert

I just sent Jeff Rense www.rense.com some articles on bird flu. I have

been plotting outbreaks for almost two years, using migration maps and

studying bird

flyways, etc. Well, I noticed something different this season. The winter

bird migrations did NOT bring bird flu with the migratory birds. Cases

should NOW be breaking out in Africa, Malawi and other countries that host

winter migratory birds. Well, the bird flu does not seem to be where is

supposed to be i.e. going by the past migrations.

So, what is going on? Are the migratory birds getting infected and dying

off before they leave the area of infection? Dropping into the Mediterranean

before they reach Africa? Is bird flu winding down?

I look at maps on Dr. Niman's website and the outbreaks are reemergent i.e.

China parts of Russia, Romania, etc. There is an obvious east to west and

back again spread.

Are migratory birds now building immunity to the virus? Are birds in Africa

immune due to exposure to H5N2? Italy had outbreaks of LPAI H5N1 and maybe

in and around Italy the birds are immune?

OR? ARE THE REEMERGING OUTBREAKS IN CHINA, VIETNAM, RUSSIA, ROMANIA ETC.

OCCURRING DUE TO VACCINATIONS? In the UK in 2000/2001 FMD outbreak, vets

actually brought FMD virus with them as they travelled farm to farm. The

virus clung onto shoes, truck tires, etc. etc., and as vets travelled from

infected farms to non-infected farms the FMD also went with them.

I am really worried about the H5N1 virus and the chimeras being developed as

we speak. Labs are altering H5N1 with human influenza virus, they are

altering Spanish Flu with who knows what. My real fear is the virus

escaping or being released from a lab.

Bush has paved the way for more vaccine research and the possibility that

vaccines will be forced on the public. The vaccine is dangerous and

unnecessary and, in my opinion, won't work, We don't have a pandemic

strain so how can we have a pandemic vaccine? Tamiflu can be very

dangerous, yet, the FDA has now approved it for children ages 1 year old to

12 years of age. This is insanity.

Migratory birds need to be monitored and surveillance continued, now more

than ever. We need to understand why, after this Winter's migration, the

bird

flu hasn't followed.

Doyle

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Bad vaccines may trigger China bird flu: expert

By Tan Ee Lyn Thu Dec 29, 2005. HONG KONG (Reuters)

http://news./s/nm/20051229/hl_nm/birdflu_china_vaccine_dc

China Plans to Produce 1 Billion Doses of New Bird Flu Vaccine

China has vaccinated 6.85 billion birds with more than 5 billion birds

immunized since October, according to a Dec. 14 press statement by Jia.

(This has now disappeared off the website)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=100...Eg5g & refer=asia

(This has now disappeared off the website)

Dec. 26 (Bloomberg) -- China plans to produce 1 billion doses of a newly

developed live vaccine that's aimed to protect poultry from the deadly

avian influenza and Newcastle disease by the end of the month, according to

the Ministry of Agriculture.

China approved the production and storage of the recombinant bivalent

vaccine on Dec. 23, the Beijing-based ministry said on its Web site on Dec.

24. The vaccine can be applied by injection, through nasal sprays, eye

drops and mixed in drinking water, the statement said.

The production cost of the new vaccine is one-fifth of the inactivated

vaccines currently available, the agriculture ministry said, citing Chief

Veterinary Officer Jia Youling.

The development of the vaccine took four years for scientists at the Harbin

Veterinary Research Institute of the Chinese Academy of Agricultural

Sciences, the China Daily reported today on its Web site, citing Jia.

China, the world's second-biggest poultry meat producer, is vaccinating all

14.2 billion farm poultry in the country to prevent fresh outbreaks of

avian influenza from increasing the risk of bird flu spreading to humans

and potentially mutating into pandemic influenza.

Avian influenza has infected at least 141 people in Asia since 2003,

killing at least 73 of them, the World Health Organization said on its Web

site on Dec. 23. Six cases, of which two were fatal, were in China,

according to WHO.

China has vaccinated 6.85 billion birds with more than 5 billion birds

immunized since October, according to a Dec. 14 press statement by Jia.

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NIH Uses Live Viruses for Bird Flu Vaccine

By LAURAN NEERGAARD

The Associated Press

Saturday, December 17, 2005; 11:37 PM

WASHINGTON -- In an isolation ward of a Baltimore hospital, up to 30

volunteers will participate in a bold experiment: A vaccine made with a

live version of the most notorious bird flu will be sprayed into their noses.

First, scientists are dripping that vaccine into the tiny nostrils of mice.

It doesn't appear harmful _ researchers have weakened and genetically

altered the virus so that no one should get sick or spread germs _ and it

protects the animals enough to try in people.

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A worker collects chickens to be vaccinated at a farm in Sukabumi, West

Java, Indonesia, Friday, Dec. 16, 2005. Local tests showed that a

39-year-old man died of bird flu in a wealthy neighborhood of Indonesia's

capital, a senior health ministry official said Friday. If confirmed by a

World Health Organization-affiliated laboratory in Hong Kong, it would be

the country's 10th human toll from the disease. (AP Photo/Irwin Fedriansyah)

A worker collects chickens to be vaccinated at a farm in Sukabumi, West

Java, Indonesia, Friday, Dec. 16, 2005. Local tests showed that a

39-year-old man died of bird flu in a wealthy neighborhood of Indonesia's

capital, a senior health ministry official said Friday. If confirmed by a

World Health Organization-affiliated laboratory in Hong Kong, it would be

the country's 10th human toll from the disease. (AP Photo/Irwin

Fedriansyah) (Irwin Fedriansyah - AP)

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This is essentially FluMist for bird flu, and the hope is that, in the

event of a flu pandemic, immunizing people through their noses could

provide faster, more effective protection than the troublesome shots _ made

with a killed virus _ the nation now is struggling to produce.

And if it works, this new vaccine frontier may not just protect against the

bird flu strain, called H5N1, considered today's top health threat. It

offers the potential for rapid, off-the-shelf protection against whatever

novel variation of the constantly evolving influenza virus shows up next _

through a library of live-virus nasal sprays that the National Institutes

of Health plans to freeze.

" It's high-risk, high-reward " research, said Dr. , who heads

the NIH laboratory where Dr. Kanta Subbarao is brewing the nasal sprays _

including one for a different bird-flu strain that appeared safe during the

first crucial human testing last summer.

" It might fail, but if it's successful, it might prevent hundreds of

thousands of cases " of the next killer flu, said.

FluMist is the nation's nasal-spray vaccine that prevents regular winter

flu. Developed largely through 's lab, it's the only flu vaccine made

with live but weakened influenza viruses.

The new project, a collaboration with FluMist manufacturer MedImmune Inc.,

piggybacks cutting-edge genetics technology onto that vaccine to create a

line of FluMist-like sprays against different bird flus.

" That is a great, great idea, " said Dr. Treanor of the University of

Rochester, among the flu specialists closely watching the project.

Regular winter flu shots are made with killed influenza viruses, and the

government is stockpiling experimental bird-flu vaccine made the same way.

But those bird-flu shots don't work as well as hoped. They require an

incredibly high dose, delivered in two separate injections, to spark a

protective immune response in people.

" In theory, a live-virus vaccine might actually work better. We don't know

that because we've never tried one before, " Treanor said.

Influenza is like a magician, constantly changing its clothes to avoid

detection, thus making it difficult to develop effective vaccines.

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