Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I might just do that. : ) Sandy R. and I may get our heads together and come up with something. Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut Start one! At 11:43 PM 1/6/2006 -0500, you wrote: >None in Kentucky. > >Thanks anyway! > >Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 At 10:38 AM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >That's a great idea, Sandy. I wish we lived closer to eachother, but it still would be do-able. SURELY we're not alone in this big state! > >Kay Its the beginning...................... A star is born! Sheri> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 At 10:37 AM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks Anita. Your sweet email made my day. > >And even my family won't listen to me! DH lets me do what I want as far as the kids' health is concerned, but he's not interested in the least about any of it. My sister no longer speaks to me (a big part is she says we " don't have anything in common anymore " ). My brother... I don't even bother. His wife worked for various pHARMaceutical companies for years and now works in marketing for a surgical supply company. So they're thoroughly brainwashed. My mom drives me crazy listening to my information, asking questions about it, then going right on her merry way with her drugs and MD visits. > >So, it truly is just the people I've met on this list who I have for support and information. I'm so grateful for that! > >Kay Oh dear Kay......................I'm so sorry. I am so fortunate that my parents listen to all and follow it. (you know my mom's experience with homeopathy) But I have 2 brothers who don't talk to me for a variety of reasons - not related to this - but that is how it is. I always say, if we hadn't been born into that family, would we choose these people for our friends? I think not. I also strongly feel that we are born to certain families for reasons - sometimes it is hard to know why - sometimes to make us stronger..........who knows. I have lost all friends that don't see eye to eye on all the issues I'm part of - I am involved in plenty of different things to totally alienate much of the planet ;-) So, I have just find new friends and my parents are open and Joe. And about 6 other friends! people are more open over here in UK And then I have all of you too! That is just how it is. But there must be more people around you - it is just finding them. Take a yoga class? Or some other class related to health and meet people there. But the best is start your own - if you build it they will come - now where have I heard that before or advertise a vaccine dangers class and hold it for 3 hours in the evening or on a Saturday and see what happens. I started one when I still wasn't real proficient at explaining, (and you are) and that is how I gained confidence Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I wouldn't go that far! LOL I'm like Sheri B. I much prefer to be a " worker bee " than a " Queen bee. " I'm a doer more than a leader. But we'll see what happens... Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut At 10:38 AM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >That's a great idea, Sandy. I wish we lived closer to eachother, but it still would be do-able. SURELY we're not alone in this big state! > >Kay Its the beginning...................... A star is born! Sheri> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Too many Queen bees..................no hive. KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote: I wouldn't go that far! LOL I'm like Sheri B. I much prefer to be a " worker bee " than a " Queen bee. " I'm a doer more than a leader. But we'll see what happens... Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut At 10:38 AM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >That's a great idea, Sandy. I wish we lived closer to eachother, but it still would be do-able. SURELY we're not alone in this big state! > >Kay Its the beginning...................... A star is born! Sheri> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I'm just kidding about the 'too many queen bees' remark. If we had more queen bees, we would certainly have more much needed hives of awaremess. It's not for everyone though. If it's not a lack of participants, it's a matter of overcoming personal fears or feelings of inadequacy. Whatever they are, they can be overcome as Sheri N. has shared. Anita KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote: I wouldn't go that far! LOL I'm like Sheri B. I much prefer to be a " worker bee " than a " Queen bee. " I'm a doer more than a leader. But we'll see what happens... Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut At 10:38 AM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >That's a great idea, Sandy. I wish we lived closer to eachother, but it still would be do-able. SURELY we're not alone in this big state! > >Kay Its the beginning...................... A star is born! Sheri> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Oh dear Kay......................I'm so sorry. ****Thank you. I've gotten over alot of the shock and sadness that comes with losing friends and family members. I know what I'm doing is right for myself and my kids. And if others don't understand. That's their problem! I am so fortunate that my parents listen to all and follow it. (you know my mom's experience with homeopathy) **** Yes, you ARE very fortunate. What a blessing to have family members that are open minded and willing to take that leap of faith to better health! But I have 2 brothers who don't talk to me for a variety of reasons - not related to this - but that is how it is. I always say, if we hadn't been born into that family, would we choose these people for our friends? I think not. I also strongly feel that we are born to certain families for reasons - sometimes it is hard to know why - sometimes to make us stronger..........who knows. **** I've thought that before, too. And no, I would not have chosen my siblings as my " friends " had we not been born into the same family. We're all 3 so very different in many ways. I have lost all friends that don't see eye to eye on all the issues I'm part of - I am involved in plenty of different things to totally alienate much of the planet ;-) So, I have just find new friends and my parents are open and Joe. And about 6 other friends! people are more open over here in UK And then I have all of you too! That is just how it is. **** Yep... we have to accept this and move on and find people who ARE willing to accept us. But there must be more people around you - it is just finding them. Take a yoga class? Or some other class related to health and meet people there. **** Unfortunately we live in a very rural farming community. The biggest thing that's just happened related to health in this county is the NOVEL idea of getting out and walking for your health! Imagine that! I think we're lightyears behind the rest of the world! LOL But the best is start your own - if you build it they will come - now where have I heard that before or advertise a vaccine dangers class and hold it for 3 hours in the evening or on a Saturday and see what happens. I started one when I still wasn't real proficient at explaining, (and you are) and that is how I gained confidence Sheri ****Thanks Sheri, you've given me some good ideas and things to think and pray about. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Oh, I thought it was cute! : ) Actually I think we have to many " workers " and no " queen " to get all the workers together and organized! Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut I'm just kidding about the 'too many queen bees' remark. If we had more queen bees, we would certainly have more much needed hives of awaremess. It's not for everyone though. If it's not a lack of participants, it's a matter of overcoming personal fears or feelings of inadequacy. Whatever they are, they can be overcome as Sheri N. has shared. Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Thanks Kay It was a spontaneous thought ;~] KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote: Oh, I thought it was cute! : ) Actually I think we have to many " workers " and no " queen " to get all the workers together and organized! Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut I'm just kidding about the 'too many queen bees' remark. If we had more queen bees, we would certainly have more much needed hives of awaremess. It's not for everyone though. If it's not a lack of participants, it's a matter of overcoming personal fears or feelings of inadequacy. Whatever they are, they can be overcome as Sheri N. has shared. Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 My sister has a PhD in pharmacology, is a Registered Pharmacist, and teaches at a large university college of pharmacy. Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > > My heart goes out to you Kay. You have so much knowledge and generosity of heart and no one in your parts to really share it with except your family. If those folks only knew better or were willing to open their minds.....well you could change things there for the better I'm sure. I'm sure grateful I can tap into your fountain of knowledge. :~] > Anita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 WONDERFUL ;-( At 05:48 PM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >My sister has a PhD in pharmacology, is a Registered Pharmacist, and teaches >at a large university college of pharmacy. > > Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > >> Thanks Anita. Your sweet email made my day. >> >> And even my family won't listen to me! DH lets me do what I want as far >as the kids' health is concerned, but he's not interested in the least about >any of it. My sister no longer speaks to me (a big part is she says we > " don't have anything in common anymore " ). My brother... I don't even >bother. His wife worked for various pHARMaceutical companies for years and >now works in marketing for a surgical supply company. So they're thoroughly >brainwashed. My mom drives me crazy listening to my information, asking >questions about it, then going right on her merry way with her drugs and MD >visits. >> >> So, it truly is just the people I've met on this list who I have for >support and information. I'm so grateful for that! >> >> Kay -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 My sister-n-law has an autistic child, doesnt believe vaccines caused it and he was born that way. I saw him as a baby, he was NOT born that way. He never was distant like those born with it tend to be. She then had another baby and Vaxxed her despite seeing her son go through with all the problems that his vaccines induced. Now she is a neurotic child that is somewhat hyper and difficult to deal with. Then she went on to become a nurse and get further brainwashed. There are some people that you can bonk them on the head with a heavy dose of reality and they still miss the mark. I just dont get it! April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Oh, my... tough nut to crack there, I'd say! Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut My sister has a PhD in pharmacology, is a Registered Pharmacist, and teaches at a large university college of pharmacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Nobody can be a " queen bee " on everything that comes along. Everybody can be a queen bee regarding a few talents they have been blessed with (or in responding to their life's calling). The difficulty lies in recognizing / identifying life's calling since it seems to be often an unexpected, unanticipated one and therefore is dismissed even when one's life keeps presenting it over and over. Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > > At 10:38 AM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >That's a great idea, Sandy. I wish we lived closer to eachother, but it > still would be do-able. SURELY we're not alone in this big state! > > > >Kay > > Its the beginning...................... > > A star is born! > Sheri> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 So she is not only a brainwashee, but a brainwasher! My sister works for Pfizer! She is fairly brainwashed, but she has been researching vaccines (I have been sending her stuff for about two years now!) because it has been thrown around that her step son may be mildly autistic. I think that she may be worried that any children she has could be at risk as well, duh! -- Sara Proud Mama to Colin 12/07/99 Jack 8/07/02 --------- Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > > My heart goes out to you Kay. You have so much knowledge and generosity of heart and no one in your parts to really share it with except your family. If those folks only knew better or were willing to open their minds.....well you could change things there for the better I'm sure. I'm sure grateful I can tap into your fountain of knowledge. :~] > Anita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Yes, it can be difficult to know when to answer the call. Certainly I agree no one can take charge of every opportunity that presents itself. Typically, there are more people willing to work and learn than there are those who are willing and qualified to lead and teach; at least in my experience. Where there is a need, we should try to take the call if we are qualified to do so. I know if Kay had people willing to open their minds and learn, she would be an incredible leader/teacher. If she lived near me, Kay could easily form a group. You can only do what your environment allows. Unfortunately those folks in Kentucky are in great need. They are the ones dimissing their opportunities and missing the call. That's all. :-) Anita Sandy Rippetoe <srippetoe@...> wrote: Nobody can be a " queen bee " on everything that comes along. Everybody can be a queen bee regarding a few talents they have been blessed with (or in responding to their life's calling). The difficulty lies in recognizing / identifying life's calling since it seems to be often an unexpected, unanticipated one and therefore is dismissed even when one's life keeps presenting it over and over. Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > I'm just kidding about the 'too many queen bees' remark. If we had more queen bees, we would certainly have more much needed hives of awaremess. It's not for everyone though. If it's not a lack of participants, it's a matter of overcoming personal fears or feelings of inadequacy. Whatever they are, they can be overcome as Sheri N. has shared. > Anita > > > > > --------------------------------- Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 people like that just makes me wanna cry.... Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > My sister-n-law has an autistic child, doesnt believe vaccines caused > it and he was born that way. I saw him as a baby, he was NOT born that > way. He never was distant like those born with it tend to be. > She then had another baby and Vaxxed her despite seeing her son go > through with all the problems that his vaccines induced. > Now she is a neurotic child that is somewhat hyper and difficult to > deal with. > Then she went on to become a nurse and get further brainwashed. > > There are some people that you can bonk them on the head with a heavy > dose of reality and they still miss the mark. > I just dont get it! > April > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Thanks again for your kind compliments, Anita. Hopefully one of these days I'll be able to live up to all the things you've envisioned for me! The other frustrating thing about being here in no man's land... telling people about the dangers of vaccines is one thing, but then where does that leave them for their health care? There are no naturopaths or homeopaths around here. And even if there were, many of these people are on Medicaid, food stamps, and such. They'd never be able to afford care that's not provided by the state. So where would that leave them? It's one thing to stop vaccinating, but another if they keep assaulting their kids' bodies with other harmful things like antibiotics, fever reducers, steriods, etc. But what alternatives do many of them have? THAT'S what frustrates me tremendously, too! Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut Yes, it can be difficult to know when to answer the call. Certainly I agree no one can take charge of every opportunity that presents itself. Typically, there are more people willing to work and learn than there are those who are willing and qualified to lead and teach; at least in my experience. Where there is a need, we should try to take the call if we are qualified to do so. I know if Kay had people willing to open their minds and learn, she would be an incredible leader/teacher. If she lived near me, Kay could easily form a group. You can only do what your environment allows. Unfortunately those folks in Kentucky are in great need. They are the ones dimissing their opportunities and missing the call. That's all. :-) Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I had a friend that lived in KY,NE section/Ashland,and the conventional medical care she got almost left her dead. The best option for people is to educate themselves,so they can treat themselves.The majority of things you can handle at home.This is what people did in the past. And if you use preventative holistic medicine chances are you will be less likely to end up in the hands of conventional doctors. Just be prepared in case you DO end up in an ER or other places.Knowledge,a show of confidence,and a detailed paper trail in case things go wrong. You can't save everyone.Most people don't like anyone trying to convince them that what they are doing is wrong,BUT sometimes just seeing YOU live your life in an alternative way opens up a door for people to question you and learn from you.In the end some people,even conventional doctors,just might become more pro-active in their health/life style. And if anyone calls you a nut just say, " Yea I'm a nut,but it's the one with the healthy kind of fat! " Vaccine Injury Compensation: http://www.hrsa.gov/osp/vicp/INDEX.HTM MW Archives:http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/#Table What Circumcision cuts away : http://www.norm.org/lost.html --------------------------------- Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 SG, I love the bit about the nut at the end of your post. What a nice way to make a point. Preaching and sarcasm have a tendancy to drive people further away from the point one may be attempting to make. I suppose it doesn't much matter unless a person truely WANTs to help others. I also like your thoughts on leading by example and letting others see that it is good so that they may inquire one day; of their own volition. Anyway, Thanks. I would love an opportunity to use the nut comment, only everyone around here knows my belief system and doesn't give me a hard time about it; not to my face that is. I just continue to love everyone and make myself available. Anita I had a friend that lived in KY,NE section/Ashland,and the conventional medical care she got almost left her dead. The best option for people is to educate themselves,so they can treat themselves.The majority of things you can handle at home.This is what people did in the past. And if you use preventative holistic medicine chances are you will be less likely to end up in the hands of conventional doctors. Just be prepared in case you DO end up in an ER or other places.Knowledge,a show of confidence,and a detailed paper trail in case things go wrong. You can't save everyone.Most people don't like anyone trying to convince them that what they are doing is wrong,BUT sometimes just seeing YOU live your life in an alternative way opens up a door for people to question you and learn from you.In the end some people,even conventional doctors,just might become more pro-active in their health/life style. And if anyone calls you a nut just say, " Yea I'm a nut,but it's the one with the healthy kind of fat! " Vaccine Injury Compensation: http://www.hrsa.gov/osp/vicp/INDEX.HTM MW Archives:http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/#Table What Circumcision cuts away : http://www.norm.org/lost.html --------------------------------- Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Hi Kay, That IS tremendously frustrating. These people, and millions more like them around the US, are why the government and medical society are able to exercise so much control over the general public. Like SG said, we must educate ourselves so that we can take control over our own well being. It is really the only way to break from the system. Unfortunately, too many don't see it as an option or aren't willing to take that responsibilty, or have no opportunity or means to educate themselves. It's hard enough to convince people who do have access to alternative caregivers and remedies, let alone those who live in no man's land. Keep the faith. Anita KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote: Thanks again for your kind compliments, Anita. Hopefully one of these days I'll be able to live up to all the things you've envisioned for me! The other frustrating thing about being here in no man's land... telling people about the dangers of vaccines is one thing, but then where does that leave them for their health care? There are no naturopaths or homeopaths around here. And even if there were, many of these people are on Medicaid, food stamps, and such. They'd never be able to afford care that's not provided by the state. So where would that leave them? It's one thing to stop vaccinating, but another if they keep assaulting their kids' bodies with other harmful things like antibiotics, fever reducers, steriods, etc. But what alternatives do many of them have? THAT'S what frustrates me tremendously, too! Kay Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut Yes, it can be difficult to know when to answer the call. Certainly I agree no one can take charge of every opportunity that presents itself. Typically, there are more people willing to work and learn than there are those who are willing and qualified to lead and teach; at least in my experience. Where there is a need, we should try to take the call if we are qualified to do so. I know if Kay had people willing to open their minds and learn, she would be an incredible leader/teacher. If she lived near me, Kay could easily form a group. You can only do what your environment allows. Unfortunately those folks in Kentucky are in great need. They are the ones dimissing their opportunities and missing the call. That's all. :-) Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I actually feel this way Anita. We have 3 family members in this household only and we live on $ 20,000 a year altogether. After the house payment($7,000 a year), we can barely eat everyday. I believe we NEED ins. to get through. I can barely afford what we are doing for K right now. We have recently had to give up our car because we couldn't afford the payments plus the house payment. So, we do not even have a vehicle anymore. We wouldn't even be able to care for her at all if we were to have another child. We would be taking away from getting K better. Adding a supplement usually takes about a month to do because we need to save up just to be able to get it. Our alternatives are very slim. We have sold my husbands guns, pc equipment, and I actually stayed at a car wash all day one day with K to help wash cars for extra $. In the summer, I pick night crawlers and sell them at our local campground. I also do some housecleaning whenever I get the chance. We are definitely struggling and feel like giving up. I know we could have gotten much farther with k if we made more $. We have no bank accounts or credit cards. I think this is why many children die in our health care system because it is the only thing we can afford. I am very frustrated about these $ problems but, even more so because we have to be ill in order to live at all. Jenn L Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > > Yes, it can be difficult to know when to answer the call. Certainly I agree no one can take charge of every opportunity that presents itself. > > Typically, there are more people willing to work and learn than there are those who are willing and qualified to lead and teach; at least in my experience. Where there is a need, we should try to take the call if we are qualified to do so. I know if Kay had people willing to open their minds and learn, she would be an incredible leader/teacher. If she lived near me, Kay could easily form a group. You can only do what your environment allows. Unfortunately those folks in Kentucky are in great need. They are the ones dimissing their opportunities and missing the call. That's all. :-) > > Anita > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 At 11:04 PM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks again for your kind compliments, Anita. Hopefully one of these days I'll be able to live up to all the things you've envisioned for me! > >The other frustrating thing about being here in no man's land... telling people about the dangers of vaccines is one thing, but then where does that leave them for their health care? There are no naturopaths or homeopaths around here. And even if there were, many of these people are on Medicaid, food stamps, and such. They'd never be able to afford care that's not provided by the state. > >So where would that leave them? It's one thing to stop vaccinating, but another if they keep assaulting their kids' bodies with other harmful things like antibiotics, fever reducers, steriods, etc. But what alternatives do many of them have? > >THAT'S what frustrates me tremendously, too! > >Kay Well, you set up a clinic and do the best you can while you continue to study homeopathy. That's how its going to have to be I think in many places. It isn't ideal but better than nothing Sheri > Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > > Yes, it can be difficult to know when to answer the call. Certainly I agree no one can take charge of every opportunity that presents itself. > > Typically, there are more people willing to work and learn than there are those who are willing and qualified to lead and teach; at least in my experience. Where there is a need, we should try to take the call if we are qualified to do so. I know if Kay had people willing to open their minds and learn, she would be an incredible leader/teacher. If she lived near me, Kay could easily form a group. You can only do what your environment allows. Unfortunately those folks in Kentucky are in great need. They are the ones dimissing their opportunities and missing the call. That's all. :-) > > Anita > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Dear Jim and Jen, I know it can seem hopeless at times. I'm not swimming in a pool of money either; in fact our expenses far exceed our earnings only increasing our credit card debt each month. I don't know how much more we can bear either. Do you have family for support? We must do the best we can with the resources we have and know and accept that is all we can do at the time. You sound like an incredibly resourceful person. You guys are doing a great job with K; don't ever give up. Your love alone will see her through. Try to envision this New Year as a year of positive changes for you and your family; not a continuation of what has been. With love and prayer, Anita Jim and Jen <jlessard@...> wrote: I actually feel this way Anita. We have 3 family members in this household only and we live on $ 20,000 a year altogether. After the house payment($7,000 a year), we can barely eat everyday. I believe we NEED ins. to get through. I can barely afford what we are doing for K right now. We have recently had to give up our car because we couldn't afford the payments plus the house payment. So, we do not even have a vehicle anymore. We wouldn't even be able to care for her at all if we were to have another child. We would be taking away from getting K better. Adding a supplement usually takes about a month to do because we need to save up just to be able to get it. Our alternatives are very slim. We have sold my husbands guns, pc equipment, and I actually stayed at a car wash all day one day with K to help wash cars for extra $. In the summer, I pick night crawlers and sell them at our local campground. I also do some housecleaning whenever I get the chance. We are definitely struggling and feel like giving up. I know we could have gotten much farther with k if we made more $. We have no bank accounts or credit cards. I think this is why many children die in our health care system because it is the only thing we can afford. I am very frustrated about these $ problems but, even more so because we have to be ill in order to live at all. Jenn L Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > > Yes, it can be difficult to know when to answer the call. Certainly I agree no one can take charge of every opportunity that presents itself. > > Typically, there are more people willing to work and learn than there are those who are willing and qualified to lead and teach; at least in my experience. Where there is a need, we should try to take the call if we are qualified to do so. I know if Kay had people willing to open their minds and learn, she would be an incredible leader/teacher. If she lived near me, Kay could easily form a group. You can only do what your environment allows. Unfortunately those folks in Kentucky are in great need. They are the ones dimissing their opportunities and missing the call. That's all. :-) > > Anita > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Anita, Thank you for that. I need to be more positive. Although sometimes, I still do get bogged down. I got my husband to eat some of the yogurt everyday too now. If I could see a healthier family, then it would seem more worth all the sacrifices. We do have family that live in other states but, they are NOT supportive of what we are doing with K. They have never been supportive of me. I guss that's another reason why I may lose it now and then. I will try to look more on the brighter side of it all. Thanks for your support. Jenn L---- Original Message ----- From: " Anita Durney " <mydurney@...> <Vaccinations > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > Dear Jim and Jen, > I know it can seem hopeless at times. I'm not swimming in a pool of money either; in fact our expenses far exceed our earnings only increasing our credit card debt each month. I don't know how much more we can bear either. Do you have family for support? > > We must do the best we can with the resources we have and know and accept that is all we can do at the time. You sound like an incredibly resourceful person. You guys are doing a great job with K; don't ever give up. Your love alone will see her through. Try to envision this New Year as a year of positive changes for you and your family; not a continuation of what has been. > > With love and prayer, > Anita > > > Jim and Jen <jlessard@...> wrote: > I actually feel this way Anita. We have 3 family members in this household > only and we live on $ 20,000 a year altogether. After the house > payment($7,000 a year), we can barely eat everyday. I believe we NEED ins. > to get through. I can barely afford what we are doing for K right now. We > have recently had to give up our car because we couldn't afford the payments > plus the house payment. So, we do not even have a vehicle anymore. We > wouldn't even be able to care for her at all if we were to have another > child. We would be taking away from getting K better. Adding a supplement > usually takes about a month to do because we need to save up just to be able > to get it. Our alternatives are very slim. We have sold my husbands guns, pc > equipment, and I actually stayed at a car wash all day one day with K to > help wash cars for extra $. In the summer, I pick night crawlers and sell > them at our local campground. I also do some housecleaning whenever I get > the chance. We are definitely struggling and feel like giving up. I know we > could have gotten much farther with k if we made more $. We have no bank > accounts or credit cards. I think this is why many children die in our > health care system because it is the only thing we can afford. I am very > frustrated about these $ problems but, even more so because we have to be > ill in order to live at all. Jenn L > Re: Tired of people thinking I'm a nut > > > > > > Yes, it can be difficult to know when to answer the call. Certainly I > agree no one can take charge of every opportunity that presents itself. > > > > Typically, there are more people willing to work and learn than there > are those who are willing and qualified to lead and teach; at least in my > experience. Where there is a need, we should try to take the call if we are > qualified to do so. I know if Kay had people willing to open their minds and > learn, she would be an incredible leader/teacher. If she lived near me, Kay > could easily form a group. You can only do what your environment allows. > Unfortunately those folks in Kentucky are in great need. They are the ones > dimissing their opportunities and missing the call. That's all. :-) > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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