Re: a mother of a immuno deficient child is MAD at me

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry Sara, you just have to get tough skin

We all have been harangued at like this.

If someone choke's to death from pertussis, they didn't provide very good

care in her profeessional setting, now did they.

And yeah and I'm sure she saw lots of brain damage from measles.

Ask her how old she is.

Ask for names and dates.

I'm 55 - never saw complciations from measles! NEVER.

And did she ask herself where the measles came from that that unvaccinated

child got? Who was the first case? And if her child was vaccinated, why

is she not fine? And where did her child get immunodeficiency?

She is making these stories up

Sheri

At 07:02 PM 12/22/2005 -0000, you wrote:

>In another group there is an arguement vaccinate or not vaccinate.

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>she wrote like this:

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>my daughter almost died because of people like sara!! All of the

>sufereing in her life form the damage. My daughter is having birth

>defect immuno deficiency. she got measles from unvaccinated boy in her

>class. The exposure was proved by isolating the measles virus from

>that boy. it was unique measles that was 'wild' measles that was also

>isolated from my daughter!! My health insurance company sued the boy's

>parents for millions, but it will never help my daughter to gain her

>health and her neurological function, that why these people are

>risking people's lives.

>Don't say I have no right to be angry, because its about my daughter's

>life and Sara's behaivor not to vaccinate is risking her life!

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>all of Sara's opinions are dangerous damegogy!! I saw in my

>professional life children who got chocked to death from pertuisis!,

>yes also from this old age of 4 - 6 years, and the medicine couldn't

>save them. Children with brain damage forever (vegetables) because of

>measles. Dying children in agony from meningitis resulting from

>chickenpox complications.. and more. They all were from the ultra

>orthodox Jewish community (in israel) Why do you reject all of the

>findings of the God given wonderful modern medicine?!

>I am a nurse, children expert and I know what I am talking about!

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[Guest guest]

And where did her child get immunodeficiency?

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> She is making these stories up

> Sheri

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k, I will ask her these questions.

but one thing: she said her child was BORN immunodeficient so she

could avoid vaccinations for that reason (or vaccinated and it didn't

work as her child is defected)

one more thing: she is a nurse in hospital so she claims seen these cases

[Guest guest]

I wonder sometimes from post I read on other list with children who

are disabled, If Pharma is prowling some of these list. I would not

put anything past the freaks that work at Pharma.

Now thinking abt it, I am on one list with disabled kids, One of the

parents has a child that is disabled, and when I bring up vaccines,

she cuts me off and starts posting crap, I found out that she does

some kind of consulting work for Pharma, So I posted all abt her on

the group, and told her this is the reason she is so Bias, she works

for the company that poisons children. She never said anything after

that!

Here is her web site! She has this on under her name when ever she

post to the group.

www.environmentalhealthconsulting.com

Here is something she had wrote on my group for disabled children, I

can almost guarantee this person does not even have a disabled child!

I am an immunologist by training and my company studies children's

environmental exposure. You can see the results of our largest

contract at:

<http://www.epa.gov/teach/>. I have read a great deal on the subject

and I

am comfortable with vaccines and, in fact, believe vaccines and water

sanitation to be two of the greatest inventions/discoveries mankind

has made.

I know that we all have to sort this out for ourselves, but those

mulling

it over should throw some of these scientific studies into the mix

as well.

I dont trust Pharma, they are the slimest slugs on earth!

Donna

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> In another group there is an arguement vaccinate or not vaccinate.

>

> she wrote like this:

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> my daughter almost died because of people like sara!! All of the

> sufereing in her life form the damage. My daughter is having birth

> defect immuno deficiency. she got measles from unvaccinated boy in

her

> class. The exposure was proved by isolating the measles virus from

> that boy. it was unique measles that was 'wild' measles that was

also

> isolated from my daughter!! My health insurance company sued the

boy's

> parents for millions, but it will never help my daughter to gain

her

> health and her neurological function, that why these people are

> risking people's lives.

> Don't say I have no right to be angry, because its about my

daughter's

> life and Sara's behaivor not to vaccinate is risking her life!

>

> all of Sara's opinions are dangerous damegogy!! I saw in my

> professional life children who got chocked to death from

pertuisis!,

> yes also from this old age of 4 - 6 years, and the medicine

couldn't

> save them. Children with brain damage forever (vegetables) because

of

> measles. Dying children in agony from meningitis resulting from

> chickenpox complications.. and more. They all were from the ultra

> orthodox Jewish community (in israel) Why do you reject all of the

> findings of the God given wonderful modern medicine?!

> I am a nurse, children expert and I know what I am talking about!

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

--- In Vaccinations , " saragubits " <saragubits@y...>

> my daughter almost died because of people like sara!! All of the

> sufereing in her life form the damage. My daughter is having birth

> defect immuno deficiency. she got measles from unvaccinated boy in

her

> class. The exposure was proved by isolating the measles virus from

> that boy. it was unique measles that was 'wild' measles that was

also

> isolated from my daughter!! My health insurance company sued the

boy's

> parents for millions, but it will never help my daughter to gain

her

> health and her neurological function, that why these people are

> risking people's lives.

> Don't say I have no right to be angry, because its about my

daughter's

> life and Sara's behaivor not to vaccinate is risking her life!

>

> all of Sara's opinions are dangerous damegogy!! I saw in my

> professional life children who got chocked to death from

pertuisis!,

> yes also from this old age of 4 - 6 years, and the medicine

couldn't

> save them. Children with brain damage forever (vegetables) because

of

> measles. Dying children in agony from meningitis resulting from

> chickenpox complications.. and more. They all were from the ultra

> orthodox Jewish community (in israel) Why do you reject all of the

> findings of the God given wonderful modern medicine?!

> I am a nurse, children expert and I know what I am talking about!

> --------------------------------------------------------------

Does this person even have English as her first language? Her

writing is disjointed and badly composed.

What actually is wrong with her child? She talks about *immune

deficiency* - what does she actually mean? She is full of what

measles did to her daughter, but how can she be sure that something

else didn't have a damaging effect on her?

Apologies for ignorance, but she mentions all these children in dire

straits as being in Israel, and *orthodox Jewish*. What difference

does that make? Do orthodox Jews refuse allopathic medicines?

I'm not sure what she is ranting about, but I doubt that she *does*

know what she is talking about. Sounds like she could do with

substantiating all these *facts*.

And out of curiosity (because I'm nosey) did she win her suit

against the child's parents? Can you do that in the US - or

anywhere? Sue a child's parents because that child *gave* your

child a vaccine-preventable illness? Seems bizarre....

Sue

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was wondering the same thing. I find it hard to believe that

the health insurance company sued that child's parents. Even if they

did, though, it would have been in Israel.

> And out of curiosity (because I'm nosey) did she win her suit

> against the child's parents? Can you do that in the US - or

> anywhere? Sue a child's parents because that child *gave* your

> child a vaccine-preventable illness? Seems bizarre....

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> Sue

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[Guest guest]

Sounds like a phony.

Dan

http://www.satanicvaccines.com

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> In another group there is an arguement vaccinate or not vaccinate.

>

> she wrote like this:

>

>

> ---------------------------------------------

> my daughter almost died because of people like sara!! All of the

> sufereing in her life form the damage. My daughter is having birth

> defect immuno deficiency. she got measles from unvaccinated boy in

her

> class. The exposure was proved by isolating the measles virus from

> that boy. it was unique measles that was 'wild' measles that was

also

> isolated from my daughter!! My health insurance company sued the

boy's

> parents for millions, but it will never help my daughter to gain

her

> health and her neurological function, that why these people are

> risking people's lives.

> Don't say I have no right to be angry, because its about my

daughter's

> life and Sara's behaivor not to vaccinate is risking her life!

>

> all of Sara's opinions are dangerous damegogy!! I saw in my

> professional life children who got chocked to death from

pertuisis!,

> yes also from this old age of 4 - 6 years, and the medicine

couldn't

> save them. Children with brain damage forever (vegetables) because

of

> measles. Dying children in agony from meningitis resulting from

> chickenpox complications.. and more. They all were from the ultra

> orthodox Jewish community (in israel) Why do you reject all of the

> findings of the God given wonderful modern medicine?!

> I am a nurse, children expert and I know what I am talking about!

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

her child is IMMUNO DEFICIENT so it doesnt' matter if vaxxed or not,

as she can't be immunized to anything.

however she said the unvaxxed child came to her daugheter's class

being SICK with fever so the girl caught it from that boy. It caused

her daughter to be in NICU for 3 weeks and permanent neurological damage.

Then she said it was in the CCMC Hospital in Hartford, CT

She works in NICU for 18 years, since her graduation in 1986. she

claims its illegal to bring names and dates for the actual cases. then

she said that the child who died from pertuisis it was the course of

the disease that hospital was couldn't help him.

She claimed there were 6 deaths of measles in Israel in the year 2004.

do you know anything about it?

Then someone else brought facts from a medical website. She focused on

the measles epidemic in 1989 - 1991 in USA - 55,000 cases and 123

deaths. She then claimed that in the epidemic area it was 50% of

vaccinated people and 90% of death cases were in unvaccinated children.

That site was in hebrew but I found a link in english:

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/baby/babyills/1417820.html

Then she claimed Wakefield was bribed by parents of autistic

children to bring 'research' to prove it causes autism. But then they

had several more researchs and found it had no connection.

I know all is part truths and lies.. but here I have no good info..

anyone has info about this issue?

[Guest guest]

that lady is living in CT all of her case happened there.

She lived in israel before she moved here to USA

About her posting, it was in Hebrew and I translated it roughly.

Hebrew grammar is very differnt and it was dificult to translate it

accurately with no errors. What comes 'right' in Hebrew is wrong in

English grammar.

[Guest guest]

about the Jewish orthodox community, there are several families who

refuse vaccines. They are health conscious and belive that doctors are

evil and defiled. The media is harashly backstabbing them whenever

anything goes wrong in that community.

But weirdly, there is one other Jewish orthodox community that is

ignored completely by the media. They live in closed place in Old city

in Jerusalem. They are a very closed community, marry only each other

like a fanatic cult. They aren't involved in the state of Israel,

never pay tax, have their own business with each other, never take any

wellfare from the state. They never vaccinate, they homebirth and

somehow treat themselves independently without doctors. They have

their own foods that are grown organically in unknown places.

I never heared about them getting sick or anything. Actually they are

never in the news.