Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 At 12:31 PM 12/17/2005 -0600, you wrote: > > This is a response I got from someone when I posted this: > Today less than 10% of German children are vaccinated against pertussis. > The number of cases of pertussis has steadily decreased[2] even though far > fewer children are receiving pertussis vaccine. > > > That is a ridiculous lie. Vaccination compliance is very high in Germany, well over 90% for DTaP. Can they provide proof? > I can't find any definitive answers.................... Info from http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/research/lancet.htm THE FORMER EAST GERMANY- Germany before unification provides striking contrast in pertussis experiences. The former West Germany adopted a non-compulsory vaccination policy, resulting in low coverage. The former East Germany, however, achieved control (figure 1) by requiring vaccination to consist of three primary doses and a single booster dose of DTP. Thus, in 1989 DTP coverage in the former East Germany was 95%. The country had only one to two cases per 100,000 during 1980-1990, whereas the former West Germany had an incidence well over 100 times higher (7). this is children born in 1976 & 1983 THE FORMER WEST GERMANY- The contrast between the former West Germany and East Germany provides perhaps the most striking example of the national danger of anti-vaccine movements. Finger and colleagues analyzed vaccination histories and incidence of pertussis among West German children at school entrance (7). Coverage with whole-cell pertussis vaccine was fairly constant at 11.0% and 11.2% for children born in 1976 or in 1983, respectively. Pertussis was reported from 35% (1976) and 37% (1983) of these children. The authors estimated that incidence in West Germany was 180 per 100,000 during this period. They attributed the high incidence to health-care providers who believed the disease to be a " normal " childhood illness.> http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ew/1999/990729.asp#4 After the reunification of Germany vaccination coverage fell sharply in the new Federal States and the incidence rose to 8.6/100 000 in 1997. Assuming underreporting, the incidence was probably higher. Vaccine coverage has improved since 1995 but vaccine coverage of over 90% has not been achieved. Although pertussis vaccination has been recommended for all children by the Ständige Impfkommission (STIKO) (permanent vaccination commission) since 1991, acceptance of the vaccination among parents and physicians has only improved since the registration of the newly developed acellular vaccines in 1995. It is remarkable, therefore, that no child is known to have died from pertussis in the last year to1997. Since Germany lacks national notification data, hospital diagnostic statistics are used to assess morbidity. Since 1995 hospital treatment for pertussis has fallen sharply. In 1996, however, the number of hospital treatments still exceeded 1000 cases (75% of them were children aged 5 years or under). Compared with 1994, when the last morbidity peak was seen (3936 cases of hospital treatment) this is a fall of more than 70%. Assuming that 5% of cases are treated in hospital, this leads to an estimated incidence in Germany of 100/100 000 in 1994 and 25/100 000 in 1996. The hospital treatment rate in the old Federal States was more than four times higher than in the new States in 1994 and about 40% higher in 1996. A large difference in vaccine coverage shown in preschool examinations is still seen between the old and new States (35% in the old Federal States compared with 85% in the new States). AND In Germany vaccination coverage is suboptimal despite largely favourable preconditions. There are various reasons, some of which are discussed here. Most vaccinations are not provided or organised by the Community Health Service, in contrast to many other countries. Each vaccination requires active cooperation on the part of parents (or adults to be vaccinated) as well as on the part of physicians. There is too little ‘incentive’ for people to get vaccinated. The public lack knowledge of the benefit of vaccination. Even some physicians are insufficiently convinced or do not convey their belief to patients sufficiently. Paediatricians and general practitioners are often insufficiently prepared to actively approach their patients about updating their vaccination status. Practice organisation often does not support the assesment of vaccination status. Moreover the remuneration for vaccination is regarded as insufficient by many physicians, which does not help to increase vaccination activities, especially if the time needed to discuss the issue is taken into consideration. Regional vaccination registers, which would allow the active follow up of non immunised people by the Community Health Services, do not exist. Therefore, healthy adults and adolescents and children - who are not seen by a doctor on a regular basis - rarely have their vaccination status checked and updated. To achieve the high level of vaccination coverage intended in Germany, existing obstacles have to be overcome.In addition, cooperation between the major key players (primary care physicians, Community Health Services, and Sick Funds) must intensify. Some progress has been made in the past year. The constructive dialogue should be continued, and examples of good practice should be published and disseminated. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Sherry, I will ask for the proof, and I will ask for it in English, lol. April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 At 01:04 PM 12/17/2005 -0600, you wrote: > > Sherry, I will ask for the proof, and I will ask for it in English, lol. > April > It looks like that info came from an interview with Dean Black on Null show I can't find anything more specific> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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