[NVIC] Emergency Alert in Senate-ACT NOW

[Guest guest]

E-NEWS FROM THE NATIONAL VACCINE INFORMATION CENTER

Vienna, Virginia http://www.nvic.org

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UNITED WAY/COMBINED FEDERAL CAMPAIGN

#8122

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" Protecting the health and informed consent rights of children since 1982. "

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NVIC EMERGENCY ALERT: PROTECT YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS

Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

control a " natural disease " outbreak.

www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

NVIC sent out a press release last night warning that this

behind-the-scenes action was about to take place WITHOUT PUBLIC DEBATE as a

result of growing public outrage over S. 1873 sponsored by Senator

Burr (R-NC) and a similar bill in the House (HR.3970). See the press release

below.

NVIC also sent a letter to Senator Burr's staff outlining NVIC's

objections to S. 1873 and the unprecedented power grab by federal health

officials and drug companies since September 11, 2001. www.nvic.org

CONTACT YOUR SENATOR AND CONGRESSPERSON

Senate: www.senate.gov

House: www.house.gov

Let them know how you feel about Congress taking away your civil right to

exercise the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution which guarantees every

citizen a day in court in front of a jury of their peers.

IMMEDIATELY CALL AND FAX AS MANY OF THE FOLLOWING SENATORS AS YOU CAN!

Ask them to VOTE AGAINST any language that is attached to any

appropriation or other bill that takes away YOUR right to go to court if you

or your child are injured by vaccines used whenever the Secretary of Health

and Human Services declares a " potential or actual " public health emergency

or at any other time.

THE MESSAGE IS:

DON'T BAIL OUT BIG PHARMA AND TAKE AWAY MY CIVIL RIGHTS

Senator Thad Cochran (MS) (Chairman, Senate Appropriations Committee) Phone:

(202) 224-5054 Fax: (202) 224-9450

Senator Ted s (AK) Phone: (202) 224-3004 Fax:(202) 224-2354

Senator Arlen Specter (PA) Phone: 202-224-4254 Fax: 202-228-1229

Senator Pete Domenici (NM) Phone: (202) 224-6621 Fax: (202) 228-3261

Senator Bond (MO) Phone: (202) 224-5721 Fax: (202) 224-8149

Senator Mitch McConnell (KY) Phone: (202) 224-2541 Fax: (202) 224-2499

Senator Shelby (AL) Phone: (202) 224-5744 Fax: (202) 224-3416

Senator Judd Gregg (NH) Phone: (202) 224 - 3324 Fax: (202) 224 - 4952

Senator Kay Hutchison (TX) Phone: 202-224-5922 Fax: 202-224-0776

Senator Conrad Burns (MT) Phone: 202-224-2644 Fax: 202-224-8594

Sen. Inouye (Ranking Member) (HI) Phone: 202-224-3934 Fax:

202-224-6747

Senator C. Byrd (WV) Phone: 202-224-3954 Fax: 202-228-0002

Senator Leahy (VT) Phone: 202-224-4242 Fax: 202-224-3479

Senator Tom Harkin (IA) Phone: (202) 224-3254 Fax: (202) 224-9369

Senator Byron Dorgan (ND) Phone: 202-224-2551 Fax: 202-224-1193

Senator Durbin (IL) Phone: (202) 224-2152 Fax: (202) 228-0400

Senator Harry Reid (NV) Phone: 202-224-3542 Fax: 202-224-7327

Senator Dianne Feinstein (CA) Phone: (202) 224-3841 Fax: (202) 228-3954

Senator Barbara Milkulski (MD) Phone: 202-224-4654 Fax: 202-224-8858

Sen. Kennedy (MA) Phone: 202-224-4543 Fax: 202-224-2417

Sen. Olympia Snowe (ME) DC Phone: 202-224-5344 Fax: 202-224-1946

Sen. (ME) Phone: 202-224-2523 Fax: 202-224-2693

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (MI) Phone: 202-224-4822 Fax: 202-228-0325

Sen. Lincoln Chaffee (RI) Phone: 202-224-2921 Fax: 202-228-2853

Sen. McCain (AZ) Phone: 202-224-2235 Fax: 202-228-2862

Sen. Graham DC Phone: 202-224-5972 Fax: 202-224-3808

Congressman Jerry (CA) Chair, House Appropriations Committee) Phone:

202-225-5861 Fax: 202-225-0351

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for immediate release

November 15, 2005 5:00 PM

CONGRESS SET TO BAIL OUT BIG PHARMA IN SECRET

Washington, D.C. - A behind-the-scenes plan is reportedly taking shape in

Congress to attach language to an unspecified conference report giving drug

companies blanket immunity from liability for vaccine injuries and deaths.

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), a watchdog consumer advocacy

group critical of provisions in " The Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and

Drug Development Act of 2005 " (S. 1873) sponsored by Senator Burr

(R-NC) and a similar bill in the House (H.R. 3970), calls the reported plan

" an end-run by Pharma's friends in Congress to take away the civil rights of

the American people. "

In the past few weeks, public criticism about the proposed bail-out of drug

companies has been mounting as Americans are being told that a pandemic bird

flu is coming and drug companies are asking Congress to bar citizen access

to the civil justice system when they are harmed by vaccines. Because the

bird flu virus has not mutated into a form that is transmissable from human

to human, questions have been raised as to whether irrational fear about

bird flu is being generated in an attempt to stampede Congress into passing

liability protections the pharmaceutical industry has been seeking for 40

years.

Pointing out that there are twice as many drug companies marketing vaccines

in the U.S. today as there were in 1982 when NVIC was founded, NVIC

President Barbara Loe Fisher said, " It is a big lie that drug companies have

been driven out of business by lawsuits in the past two decades. The

National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 protected drug companies and

doctors from almost all lawsuits. There are only a handful of vaccine injury

lawsuits pending in civil courts but Pharma is on the brink of conning

Congress into destroying Americans' Seventh Amendment Constitutional right

to seek redress in a civil court in front of a jury of their peers.

Apparently drug companies only want profits and not accountability when

Americans die or are injured by experimental and poorly tested biodefense

and pandemic flu vaccines they can be forced to take whenever the Secretary

of Health and Human Services declares a public health emergency and state

officials follow suit. "

In a November 15th letter to Senator Burr's staff director, U.S. Senate

Subcommittee on Bioterrorism and Public Health Preparedness, NVIC President

Barbara Loe Fisher describes S. 1873 as " arguably unconstitutional " because

it (1) lacks transparency into the research, development, licensure and

post-licensure surveillance of vaccines and drugs used in public health

emergencies; (2) lacks accountability for either manufacturers of these

products or government health officials who mandate their use without

informed consent; and (3) lacks justice for those who will inevitably die or

suffer chronic illnesses after being compelled to take these products.

The proposed law will also create a new agency within the Department of

Health and Human Services that will secretly develop experimental drugs and

vaccines to be used by civilian and military populations whenever the

Secretary declares " a potential or actual " public health emergency. The

agency may deny Freedom of Information Act requests by citizens and is not

subject to review of its actions by the judicial branch of government.

In 1982, there were four drug companies marketing vaccines in the U.S.:

Wyeth, Lederle, Merck and Connaught. Today there are eight: Wyeth, Merck,

Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoKline, MedImmune, Chiron, Bioport, and VaxGen.

There are ten vaccine injury lawsuits currently pending in U.S. civil

courts, with the majority involving a highly reactive whole cell version of

DPT vaccine no longer distributed in the U.S.

For more information and a complete text of Barbara Loe Fisher's 11 page

letter to Senator Burr's subcommittee staff, go to www.nvic.org.

-end-

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Center and is supported through membership donations. Learn more about

vaccines, diseases and how to protect your informed consent rights

http://www.nvic.org

Become a member and support NVIC's work

https://www.nvic.org/making%20cash%20donations.htm

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[Guest guest]

Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

control a " natural disease " outbreak.

When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean citizens would be

banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule as well as

pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

E-NEWS FROM THE NATIONAL VACCINE INFORMATION CENTER

Vienna, Virginia http://www.nvic.org

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

UNITED WAY/COMBINED FEDERAL CAMPAIGN

#8122

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

" Protecting the health and informed consent rights of children since 1982. "

============================================================================

==============

NVIC EMERGENCY ALERT: PROTECT YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS

Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

control a " natural disease " outbreak.

www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

NVIC sent out a press release last night warning that this

behind-the-scenes action was about to take place WITHOUT PUBLIC DEBATE as a

result of growing public outrage over S. 1873 sponsored by Senator

Burr (R-NC) and a similar bill in the House (HR.3970). See the press release

below.

NVIC also sent a letter to Senator Burr's staff outlining NVIC's

objections to S. 1873 and the unprecedented power grab by federal health

officials and drug companies since September 11, 2001. www.nvic.org

CONTACT YOUR SENATOR AND CONGRESSPERSON

Senate: www.senate.gov

House: www.house.gov

Let them know how you feel about Congress taking away your civil right to

exercise the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution which guarantees every

citizen a day in court in front of a jury of their peers.

IMMEDIATELY CALL AND FAX AS MANY OF THE FOLLOWING SENATORS AS YOU CAN!

Ask them to VOTE AGAINST any language that is attached to any

appropriation or other bill that takes away YOUR right to go to court if you

or your child are injured by vaccines used whenever the Secretary of Health

and Human Services declares a " potential or actual " public health emergency

or at any other time.

THE MESSAGE IS:

DON'T BAIL OUT BIG PHARMA AND TAKE AWAY MY CIVIL RIGHTS

Senator Thad Cochran (MS) (Chairman, Senate Appropriations Committee) Phone:

(202) 224-5054 Fax: (202) 224-9450

Senator Ted s (AK) Phone: (202) 224-3004 Fax:(202) 224-2354

Senator Arlen Specter (PA) Phone: 202-224-4254 Fax: 202-228-1229

Senator Pete Domenici (NM) Phone: (202) 224-6621 Fax: (202) 228-3261

Senator Bond (MO) Phone: (202) 224-5721 Fax: (202) 224-8149

Senator Mitch McConnell (KY) Phone: (202) 224-2541 Fax: (202) 224-2499

Senator Shelby (AL) Phone: (202) 224-5744 Fax: (202) 224-3416

Senator Judd Gregg (NH) Phone: (202) 224 - 3324 Fax: (202) 224 - 4952

Senator Kay Hutchison (TX) Phone: 202-224-5922 Fax: 202-224-0776

Senator Conrad Burns (MT) Phone: 202-224-2644 Fax: 202-224-8594

Sen. Inouye (Ranking Member) (HI) Phone: 202-224-3934 Fax:

202-224-6747

Senator C. Byrd (WV) Phone: 202-224-3954 Fax: 202-228-0002

Senator Leahy (VT) Phone: 202-224-4242 Fax: 202-224-3479

Senator Tom Harkin (IA) Phone: (202) 224-3254 Fax: (202) 224-9369

Senator Byron Dorgan (ND) Phone: 202-224-2551 Fax: 202-224-1193

Senator Durbin (IL) Phone: (202) 224-2152 Fax: (202) 228-0400

Senator Harry Reid (NV) Phone: 202-224-3542 Fax: 202-224-7327

Senator Dianne Feinstein (CA) Phone: (202) 224-3841 Fax: (202) 228-3954

Senator Barbara Milkulski (MD) Phone: 202-224-4654 Fax: 202-224-8858

Sen. Kennedy (MA) Phone: 202-224-4543 Fax: 202-224-2417

Sen. Olympia Snowe (ME) DC Phone: 202-224-5344 Fax: 202-224-1946

Sen. (ME) Phone: 202-224-2523 Fax: 202-224-2693

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (MI) Phone: 202-224-4822 Fax: 202-228-0325

Sen. Lincoln Chaffee (RI) Phone: 202-224-2921 Fax: 202-228-2853

Sen. McCain (AZ) Phone: 202-224-2235 Fax: 202-228-2862

Sen. Graham DC Phone: 202-224-5972 Fax: 202-224-3808

Congressman Jerry (CA) Chair, House Appropriations Committee) Phone:

202-225-5861 Fax: 202-225-0351

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

for immediate release

November 15, 2005 5:00 PM

CONGRESS SET TO BAIL OUT BIG PHARMA IN SECRET

Washington, D.C. - A behind-the-scenes plan is reportedly taking shape in

Congress to attach language to an unspecified conference report giving drug

companies blanket immunity from liability for vaccine injuries and deaths.

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), a watchdog consumer advocacy

group critical of provisions in " The Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and

Drug Development Act of 2005 " (S. 1873) sponsored by Senator Burr

(R-NC) and a similar bill in the House (H.R. 3970), calls the reported plan

" an end-run by Pharma's friends in Congress to take away the civil rights of

the American people. "

In the past few weeks, public criticism about the proposed bail-out of drug

companies has been mounting as Americans are being told that a pandemic bird

flu is coming and drug companies are asking Congress to bar citizen access

to the civil justice system when they are harmed by vaccines. Because the

bird flu virus has not mutated into a form that is transmissable from human

to human, questions have been raised as to whether irrational fear about

bird flu is being generated in an attempt to stampede Congress into passing

liability protections the pharmaceutical industry has been seeking for 40

years.

Pointing out that there are twice as many drug companies marketing vaccines

in the U.S. today as there were in 1982 when NVIC was founded, NVIC

President Barbara Loe Fisher said, " It is a big lie that drug companies have

been driven out of business by lawsuits in the past two decades. The

National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 protected drug companies and

doctors from almost all lawsuits. There are only a handful of vaccine injury

lawsuits pending in civil courts but Pharma is on the brink of conning

Congress into destroying Americans' Seventh Amendment Constitutional right

to seek redress in a civil court in front of a jury of their peers.

Apparently drug companies only want profits and not accountability when

Americans die or are injured by experimental and poorly tested biodefense

and pandemic flu vaccines they can be forced to take whenever the Secretary

of Health and Human Services declares a public health emergency and state

officials follow suit. "

In a November 15th letter to Senator Burr's staff director, U.S. Senate

Subcommittee on Bioterrorism and Public Health Preparedness, NVIC President

Barbara Loe Fisher describes S. 1873 as " arguably unconstitutional " because

it (1) lacks transparency into the research, development, licensure and

post-licensure surveillance of vaccines and drugs used in public health

emergencies; (2) lacks accountability for either manufacturers of these

products or government health officials who mandate their use without

informed consent; and (3) lacks justice for those who will inevitably die or

suffer chronic illnesses after being compelled to take these products.

The proposed law will also create a new agency within the Department of

Health and Human Services that will secretly develop experimental drugs and

vaccines to be used by civilian and military populations whenever the

Secretary declares " a potential or actual " public health emergency. The

agency may deny Freedom of Information Act requests by citizens and is not

subject to review of its actions by the judicial branch of government.

In 1982, there were four drug companies marketing vaccines in the U.S.:

Wyeth, Lederle, Merck and Connaught. Today there are eight: Wyeth, Merck,

Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoKline, MedImmune, Chiron, Bioport, and VaxGen.

There are ten vaccine injury lawsuits currently pending in U.S. civil

courts, with the majority involving a highly reactive whole cell version of

DPT vaccine no longer distributed in the U.S.

For more information and a complete text of Barbara Loe Fisher's 11 page

letter to Senator Burr's subcommittee staff, go to www.nvic.org.

-end-

=============================================

News@... is a free service of the National Vaccine Information

Center and is supported through membership donations. Learn more about

vaccines, diseases and how to protect your informed consent rights

http://www.nvic.org

Become a member and support NVIC's work

https://www.nvic.org/making%20cash%20donations.htm

To sign up for a free e-mail subscription http://www.nvic.org/emaillist.htm

[Guest guest]

At 10:26 AM 11/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:

>

>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>

>

> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean citizens would be

banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule as well

as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only can go

through VAERS.

This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

Sheri

>

> Anita

> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Thank God!

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 10:26 AM 11/19/2005 -0800, you

wrote:

>

>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>

>

> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean citizens would be

banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule as well

as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only can go

through VAERS.

This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

Sheri

>

> Anita

> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Maybe you didn't see what I wrote

You CANNOT go to court now for the ones on the schedule.

At 10:36 AM 11/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:

>Thank God!

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 10:26 AM 11/19/2005 -0800,

you wrote:

>>

>>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>>

>>

>> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean citizens would be

>banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule as well

>as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

>

>They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only can go

>through VAERS.

>

>This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

>Sheri

>

>

>>

>> Anita

>

>> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

>

>--------------------------------------------------------

>Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

>Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

>$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

>OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

>Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

>knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

>and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

The thimerosal lawsuits are not going through the vaccine courts

because thimerosal is an perservative that was added to the

vaccines. So the attorneys are going after the makers of thimerosal.

Donna

> >>

> >>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers

are

> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in

the Senate

> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug

companies if

> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or

vaccines used to

> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

> >>

> >>

> >> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean

citizens would be

> >banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule

as well

> >as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

> >

> >They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only

can go

> >through VAERS.

> >

> >This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

> >Sheri

> >

> >

> >>

> >> Anita

> >

> >> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that

lawmakers are

> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in

the Senate

> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug

companies if

> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or

vaccines used to

> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

> >>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

> >

> >--------------------------------------------------------

> >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales

UK

> >$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> >vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> >(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> >Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> >Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> >Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> >OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

ALONE.

> >******

> > " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

down.

> >Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

destroy

> >knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> >and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I know that.

But she was talking about the other issues - the vaccines already on the

schedule.

Sheri

At 08:21 PM 11/19/2005 -0000, you wrote:

>Sheri,

>

> The thimerosal lawsuits are not going through the vaccine courts

>because thimerosal is an perservative that was added to the

>vaccines. So the attorneys are going after the makers of thimerosal.

>

>

>Donna

>

>

>

>> >>

>> >>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers

>are

>> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in

>the Senate

>> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug

>companies if

>> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or

>vaccines used to

>> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean

>citizens would be

>> >banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule

>as well

>> >as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

>> >

>> >They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only

>can go

>> >through VAERS.

>> >

>> >This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

>> >Sheri

>> >

>> >

>> >>

>> >> Anita

>> >

>> >> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that

>lawmakers are

>> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in

>the Senate

>> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug

>companies if

>> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or

>vaccines used to

>> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>> >>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

>> >

>> >--------------------------------------------------------

>> >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

>> >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales

>UK

>> >$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>> >vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>> >(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>> >Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>> >Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

>> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>> >Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>> >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

>> >OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

>ALONE.

>> >******

>> > " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

>down.

>> >Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

>destroy

>> >knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

>information

>> >and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

I see now, thank you.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

Yes, I know that.

But she was talking about the other issues - the vaccines already on the

schedule.

Sheri

At 08:21 PM 11/19/2005 -0000, you wrote:

>Sheri,

>

> The thimerosal lawsuits are not going through the vaccine courts

>because thimerosal is an perservative that was added to the

>vaccines. So the attorneys are going after the makers of thimerosal.

>

>

>Donna

>

>

>

>> >>

>> >>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers

>are

>> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in

>the Senate

>> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug

>companies if

>> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or

>vaccines used to

>> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean

>citizens would be

>> >banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule

>as well

>> >as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

>> >

>> >They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only

>can go

>> >through VAERS.

>> >

>> >This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

>> >Sheri

>> >

>> >

>> >>

>> >> Anita

>> >

>> >> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that

>lawmakers are

>> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in

>the Senate

>> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug

>companies if

>> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or

>vaccines used to

>> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>> >>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

>> >

>> >--------------------------------------------------------

>> >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

>> >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales

>UK

>> >$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>> >vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>> >(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>> >Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>> >Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

>> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>> >Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>> >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

>> >OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

>ALONE.

>> >******

>> > " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

>down.

>> >Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

>destroy

>> >knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

>information

>> >and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

I read in a post today from NVIC that there are only a handful of cases (11 I

think) in court and those are the ones related to dpt damage. Is it because they

replaced it with dtap thereby admitting it was problematic that these particular

cases exist in a court and no others? It just seems odd.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

At 10:26 AM 11/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:

>

>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>

>

> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean citizens would be

banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule as well

as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only can go

through VAERS.

This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

Sheri

>

> Anita

> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

If I am understanding correctly (which I may not be), after one files an

injury claim with the NVICP and goes through this lengthy process (several

years), you can either accept or reject the settlement/decision. And if

you reject it -- you can then proceed in a regular court system against the

vaccine makers. Can someone else please verify if my understanding is

correct? I think there are some on the list who have been through this

process.

And is the legislation that is being proposed in Wash. DC seeking to take

away this right??

Re: [NVIC] Emergency Alert in Senate-ACT NOW

> Maybe you didn't see what I wrote

>

> You CANNOT go to court now for the ones on the schedule.

>

> At 10:36 AM 11/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:

> >Thank God!

> >

> >Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 10:26 AM

11/19/2005 -0800,

> you wrote:

> >>

> >>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the

Senate

> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies

if

> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used

to

> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

> >>

> >>

> >> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean citizens would

be

> >banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule as well

> >as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

> >

> >They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only can go

> >through VAERS.

> >

> >This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

> >Sheri

> >

> >

> >>

> >> Anita

> >

> >> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

> >>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the

Senate

> >>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies

if

> >>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used

to

> >>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

> >>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

> >

> >--------------------------------------------------------

> >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> >$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> >vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> >(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> >Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> >Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> >Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> >OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

> >******

> > " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

> >Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

> >knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> >and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

At 01:25 PM 11/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:

>I read in a post today from NVIC that there are only a handful of cases

(11 I think) in court and those are the ones related to dpt damage. Is it

because they replaced it with dtap thereby admitting it was problematic

that these particular cases exist in a court and no others? It just seems odd

Well, that is in VAERS court.

But I'm not sure what you are saying.

Sheri

>

> Anita

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> At 10:26 AM 11/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:

>>

>>Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>>

>>

>> When they say 'natural disease outbreak', do they mean citizens would be

>banned from going to civil court for all vaccines on the schedule as well

>as pandemic or biodefense vaccines?

>

>They can't go to court now for the ones on the schedule. Only can go

>through VAERS.

>

>This would be for any new vaccines not on VAERS, or drugs

>Sheri

>

>

>>

>> Anita

>

>> Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) confirmed this morning that lawmakers are

>>trying to sneak language into an unnamed appropriations bill in the Senate

>>or House to ban citizens from going to civil court to sue drug companies if

>>they are injured by pandemic flu or biodefense vaccines or vaccines used to

>>control a " natural disease " outbreak.

>>www.modbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2905094p-11567706c.html

>

>--------------------------------------------------------

>Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

>Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

>$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

>OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

>Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

>knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

>and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>

>

>

>

>