Re: Re: WAS: Some advice??? NOW: Pertussis

[Guest guest]

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I found a new doctor for my autistic son who is well versed in biomedical care.

Even though Henry is unvaxed, I am tempted to have his titer count checked for a

few different diseases. I think it is possible that an inactive rubella or

measles virus in my body from my childhood vaccinations became active during

gestation and could be a possible cause for his early onset autism. Sometimes I

think I would just be wasting my time although it would put to rest where it

came from. What would I do if he did show high titer counts anyway?

Anita

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

I guess that surprises me as well. I had heard that when they run

titers on kids for measles that autistic children are extremely high -

too high in fact. I always 'ass'umed that this meant they would have

high titers to everything.

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> My autistic nephews was fully vaxed and shows no " immunity " to

pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

office she sounded very surprised and even doubtful. Go figure.

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> Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

Sheri,

I seem to remember you saying a while ago that your nephew tested high for some

kind of titer count. What was it?

Anita

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

I guess that surprises me as well. I had heard that when they run

titers on kids for measles that autistic children are extremely high -

too high in fact. I always 'ass'umed that this meant they would have

high titers to everything.

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> My autistic nephews was fully vaxed and shows no " immunity " to

pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

office she sounded very surprised and even doubtful. Go figure.

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> Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

Can those who have had pertussis, get it again? Jenn Lessard--- Original

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From: " jnoelsagacious " <jnoelsagacious@...>

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Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: WAS: Some advice??? NOW: Pertussis

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> pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

> that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

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> Sheri,

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> This is a bacterial disease and as such there would be no lasting

> antibodies. It's only viral diseases that produce probably lifetime

> antibodies. This is why anyone can contract Pertussis at any point in

> their life whether vaccinated or not.

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> Jackie Noel

> www.sagaciousairedales.com

> www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

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[Guest guest]

Rubella.

Sheri B.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

Sheri,

I seem to remember you saying a while ago that your nephew tested high for some

kind of titer count. What was it?

Anita

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

I guess that surprises me as well. I had heard that when they run

titers on kids for measles that autistic children are extremely high -

too high in fact. I always 'ass'umed that this meant they would have

high titers to everything.

>

> ,

>

> My autistic nephews was fully vaxed and shows no " immunity " to

pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

office she sounded very surprised and even doubtful. Go figure.

>

> Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

Some children have extremely high titres to measles and are autistic, but

not all. Just depends on their bodies.

But not surprising when measles is injected in and has no way to leave. It

just goes round and round producing antibodies. The rash is measles

leaving the body and if there is no rash, it just stays internal wreaking

havoc

Sheri

At 10:23 PM 11/12/2005 -0000, you wrote:

>I guess that surprises me as well. I had heard that when they run

>titers on kids for measles that autistic children are extremely high -

>too high in fact. I always 'ass'umed that this meant they would have

>high titers to everything.

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>> My autistic nephews was fully vaxed and shows no " immunity " to

>pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

>that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

>office she sounded very surprised and even doubtful. Go figure.

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>> Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

At 12:07 AM 11/13/2005 -0000, you wrote:

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>> My autistic nephews was fully vaxed and shows no " immunity " to

>pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

>that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

>

>Sheri,

>

>This is a bacterial disease and as such there would be no lasting

>antibodies. It's only viral diseases that produce probably lifetime

>antibodies. This is why anyone can contract Pertussis at any point in

>their life whether vaccinated or not.

>

>Jackie Noel

>www.sagaciousairedales.com

>www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

I would just say so-called viral diseases may produce lifetime antibodies,

but we aren't even sure of that anymore. It may be that we need exposure

to maintain that immunity. And it may be that viruses don't cause

anything, just are present as we see in HIV being blamed for the cause of

AIDS - see my pages on this http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/AIDS.htm

and so-called poliovirus being blamed for polio with paralysis -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm (when it is appearing more and more

likely to me that it was toxic reaction to strong pesticides such as DDT

and BHC

and so-called west nile virus being blamed for those symptoms - when it is

problem toxicity from pollution, pesticides, etc

Antibodies after vaccines FOR SURE do not mean immunity, just exposure

Antibody production is JUST ONE aspect of the immune system

Sheri

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

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Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

At 12:13 AM 11/13/2005 -0000, you wrote:

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>> I guess that surprises me as well. I had heard that when they run

>> titers on kids for measles that autistic children are extremely

>high -

>> too high in fact. I always 'ass'umed that this meant they would

>have

>> high titers to everything.

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>Measles is viral - hence antibody titers would probably show some

>level of protection.

No, they do NOT when they come from a vaccine.

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>In these cases the children are carrying the chronic form of disease

>and their bodies never respond to get rid of in this case the measles

>as it would if it were acquired naturally. It would come, do it's

>thing, and then leave the body leaving behind a natural immunity.

exactly

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

I saw that in one of your answers to someone else, thanks. You said 5 was normal

and he was well above 200. I wonder if that constitutes autoantibody production

and if his production is still increasing. I am looking forward to running these

tests on Henry to see where he is at regarding antibodies.

Anita

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

Rubella.

Sheri B.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

Sheri,

I seem to remember you saying a while ago that your nephew tested high for some

kind of titer count. What was it?

Anita

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

I guess that surprises me as well. I had heard that when they run

titers on kids for measles that autistic children are extremely high -

too high in fact. I always 'ass'umed that this meant they would have

high titers to everything.

>

> ,

>

> My autistic nephews was fully vaxed and shows no " immunity " to

pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

office she sounded very surprised and even doubtful. Go figure.

>

> Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

Anita,

I don't know if they'll be pulling any more titers or not. Keep me posted on

Henry!

Sheri B.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

I saw that in one of your answers to someone else, thanks. You said 5 was normal

and he was well above 200. I wonder if that constitutes autoantibody production

and if his production is still increasing. I am looking forward to running these

tests on Henry to see where he is at regarding antibodies.

Anita

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

Rubella.

Sheri B.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

Sheri,

I seem to remember you saying a while ago that your nephew tested high for some

kind of titer count. What was it?

Anita

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

I guess that surprises me as well. I had heard that when they run

titers on kids for measles that autistic children are extremely high -

too high in fact. I always 'ass'umed that this meant they would have

high titers to everything.

>

> ,

>

> My autistic nephews was fully vaxed and shows no " immunity " to

pertussis when titres were pulled. His autism specialist says that

that's no surprise. When I told this to a doctor in my former ped's

office she sounded very surprised and even doubtful. Go figure.

>

> Sheri B.

>

[Guest guest]

Is there specific safeguards that a person can do/perform to stay out of

harms way from pertussis? Where did the first cases come originate? Dirty

animals, horse poop? jenn lessard Re: WAS: Some advice??? NOW: Pertussis

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> > Can those who have had pertussis, get it again? Jenn Lessard---

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> Jenn,

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> Yes, you can get Pertussis over and over because it is a bacterial

> disease and also one that is constantly mutating.

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> Jackie Noel

> www.sagaciousairedales.com

> www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

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