Re: Does anybody here work?

[Guest guest]

Massimo,

My husband and one of my sons, age 33, both got sick and both are now

able to work full time. The son developed severe vertigo at age 30. He

got a diagnosis of Lyme disease at that time and was placed on Ceftin

for several weeks. He then went on to take Dr. Zhang's herbal

treatment. He went back to work in about 8 weeks running his company

probably 80 hours a week - he loves work - it's like a big game to

him. He is currently in China for 2 months traveling all over the

place. Occasionally he relapses briefly and I always get worried, but

he is a big kid now, so I don't run his life - just worry. My husband

is retired but still works part time and stays busy doing volunteer

work as well.

I don't know if I could have gone back to work full time. I do work a

lot, sometimes for my son and often writing, but if I HAD to go to an

office 5 days a week I think there would be times when I was sick.

a Carnes

>

> I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

day).

>

> Could you tell me your experience?

>

> Thanks a lot, cheers.

>

> Massimo

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 05/11/2006 06:33:46 GMT Standard Time,

yakcamp22@... writes:

OK, briefly, I have had 'CFS' for 13 years and never stopped working.

Initially, I was in real good condition, I got anit-virals and gamma

globulin IM pretty quickly, so maybe that helped. I am also in sales

so I can go to work late, not feeling well, and do whatever I can.

The worst thing is the boredom after work and on weekends. I have

nothing to do, no golf, racquetball, nobody calls me, so it's not

like I am functioning at 90%, more like 60%. Plus my attitude has

gotten pretty rotten because I see my family and friends making

plans, going to do things, etc. and I can't participate much.

Mike C

*******Im in full time employment!

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

OK, briefly, I have had 'CFS' for 13 years and never stopped working.

Initially, I was in real good condition, I got anit-virals and gamma

globulin IM pretty quickly, so maybe that helped. I am also in sales

so I can go to work late, not feeling well, and do whatever I can.

The worst thing is the boredom after work and on weekends. I have

nothing to do, no golf, racquetball, nobody calls me, so it's not

like I am functioning at 90%, more like 60%. Plus my attitude has

gotten pretty rotten because I see my family and friends making

plans, going to do things, etc. and I can't participate much.

Mike C

>

> I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

day).

>

> Could you tell me your experience?

>

> Thanks a lot, cheers.

>

> Massimo

[Guest guest]

That is great. One of my biggest concerns is that if I couldn't work,

I wouldn't have anything to do and be even more miserable.

CS, how is the non-working part of your life? Specifically, can you

exercise without post exertional fatigue, do you go to work and then

come home and go out, or are is working pretty much it?

Mike C

> *******Im in full time employment!

>

> Regards

> CS

[Guest guest]

a-I assume you got sick first, then your husband and son got it

from you? My assumption comes from you saying that they seem to be

doing better than you. Or, did you all get it at roughly the same

time, etc.?

Mike C

>

> Massimo,

> My husband and one of my sons, age 33, both got sick and both are

now

> able to work full time. The son developed severe vertigo at age

30. He

> got a diagnosis of Lyme disease at that time and was placed on

Ceftin

> for several weeks. He then went on to take Dr. Zhang's herbal

> treatment. He went back to work in about 8 weeks running his

company

> probably 80 hours a week - he loves work - it's like a big game to

> him. He is currently in China for 2 months traveling all over the

> place. Occasionally he relapses briefly and I always get worried,

but

> he is a big kid now, so I don't run his life - just worry. My

husband

> is retired but still works part time and stays busy doing

volunteer

> work as well.

>

> I don't know if I could have gone back to work full time. I do

work a

> lot, sometimes for my son and often writing, but if I HAD to go to

an

> office 5 days a week I think there would be times when I was sick.

>

> a Carnes

[Guest guest]

I was working 60 - 70 hours a week prior to becoming unwell.

Since then, at the recommendation of my doctor I've usually worked

20 - 30 hours a week. (I worked in our family business, limited and

flexible hours. It worked best for me to pace myself evenly and work

5 or 6 hours every day.)

Currently, I have a two year old and a four year old and though

incredibly rewarding, I find being at home with them full time as

strenuous as any job I've had before!...No commute time though, so

that's a bonus!

Anne (CFS/FMS 21 years)

>

> I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

day).

>

> Could you tell me your experience?

>

> Thanks a lot, cheers.

>

> Massimo

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

I'm a fellow CFS'er, although I don't suffer from any symptoms of FM. I've been

ill for 15 years and I'm currently 31. I'm curious about your experience with

being ill and pregnancy, post-pregnancy. I don't have any children of my own,

but if were to get healthier I would love to be a mom. In my current state there

are days at my 9-5 job where I barely get by on the energy I have, but I muddle

through. I rest ALL weekend long and that seems to help getting through the

week.

If you don't mind sharing, how are handling motherhood. How did you deal with

your pregancy. I can only imagine it was challenging.

Have a good evening,

Wendi

Re: Does anybody here work?

I was working 60 - 70 hours a week prior to becoming unwell.

Since then, at the recommendation of my doctor I've usually worked

20 - 30 hours a week. (I worked in our family business, limited and

flexible hours. It worked best for me to pace myself evenly and work

5 or 6 hours every day.)

Currently, I have a two year old and a four year old and though

incredibly rewarding, I find being at home with them full time as

strenuous as any job I've had before!...No commute time though, so

that's a bonus!

Anne (CFS/FMS 21 years)

>

> I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

day).

>

> Could you tell me your experience?

>

> Thanks a lot, cheers.

>

> Massimo

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anne, sorry but I did not get a little detail: are you 21 or you have been ill

for 21 years?

Were you ill when you became pregnant or you had your children after becoming

ill? Any good or bad effect on your illness?

Thanks a lot for your useful informations.

Massimo

Re: Does anybody here work?

I was working 60 - 70 hours a week prior to becoming unwell.

Since then, at the recommendation of my doctor I've usually worked

20 - 30 hours a week. (I worked in our family business, limited and

flexible hours. It worked best for me to pace myself evenly and work

5 or 6 hours every day.)

Currently, I have a two year old and a four year old and though

incredibly rewarding, I find being at home with them full time as

strenuous as any job I've had before!...No commute time though, so

that's a bonus!

Anne (CFS/FMS 21 years)

>

> I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

day).

>

> Could you tell me your experience?

>

> Thanks a lot, cheers.

>

> Massimo

>

>

[Guest guest]

RE: Work

I worked up until 6 months ago. I was starting to really struggle at

work and I was messing a lot of things up, in addition to barely

being able to keep my eyes open. I took a sick leave. For the first

2 months my short-term disability paid with no problem, but then for

some reason they decided it was time for me to return to work. As of

today I still haven't been paid for the last 4 months and I was

informed last wk that I am no longer employed with my company. So...

now I have no health insurance, no income etc...

Suprisingly this hasn't gotten me down too terribly bad. I'm online

today looking for a lawyer, I'm determined to get my back pay from

the insurance company. The insurance company doesn't think CFS is

real, this has to be some kind of discrimination.

Anyway, if anyone takes off work, just remember to keep all your

medical records and insurance info well organized, you may need it

in the future!

> >

> > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working,

or

> never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9

hours a

> day).

> >

> > Could you tell me your experience?

> >

> > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> >

> > Massimo

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry about your disability issues. My question for you is, since you

are terribly worried about being out of work, are you noticing that you

are feeling better? Is the rest and lack of stress helping as in

giving your adrenals and brain, etc. time to heal? Or is it too early

to tell. Thanks,

Mike C

In , " Tracey " <tracey_416@...> wrote:

>

> RE: Work

> I worked up until 6 months ago. I was starting to really struggle at

> work and I was messing a lot of things up, in addition to barely

> being able to keep my eyes open. I took a sick leave.

[Guest guest]

I was a stay at home mom for many years too and my ex never could

handle how I felt.

I had a hard time in school and never did well, by 1pm every day my

mind couldn't focus anymore and I wanted to sleep so bad I had

headaches the rest of the day.

After I left my ex I finally kept going to my doctor over and over

looking for answers...CFS.

....but she said that disability won't recognize CFS..once again,

those who need it can't get help...

I was on social assistance for awhile and then found someone who

actually wanted to help me with how I felt and didn't mind me being

home.

The relationship didn't work out, but I got a job through my

brother. I didn't know how I was going to handle it, but I was

there every day. I often heard from people that I was going to burn

myself out and I had to have down time, but I have to keep two kids

and food on the table and I had to go to work. The hardest part is

the brain fog. Try to organize, keep everything together, remember

everything, tally and count..it's hard to have an organized,

funtional mind that is wants to stay in a haze and then each day

since I couldn't just go lay down when the fatique really hit, the

headaches would come on.

Right now I'm on E.I. but I will have to find something once again

to pay the rent and feed my kids and so on. It's not easy. I have

to be motivated and think of what I'm going to do..as my kids get

older I will face the lose of child support. I can't take on any

jobs that is fast paced or high pressure. I have some ideas of what

I'm going to try and if they don't work out I'll have no choice but

to go out and get what I can at any store and I'm sure it will only

be part time, so I'll be juggling about 3 jobs...I have no idea how

many jobs I'll go through or if I'll be able to keep one, all I can

do is try.

Like everyone some days are worse then others. Today I was so tired

I slept after taking my kids to school until 12 noon. I couldn't get

anything done around here and by 4 I laid back down until 6. Not

every day is this bad, but when your at a job and you have a day

like this it's impossible to function well, but I did it once and

I'll do it again and again and how ever many times I have to as food

has to be on the table. I'll do what I can for my kids.

> >

> > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working,

or

> never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9

hours a

> day).

> >

> > Could you tell me your experience?

> >

> > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> >

> > Massimo

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, I went from bedridden.. to recovering (over many years) and ended

up being able to work quite happily 74-76 hrs per week. (sigh) then

due to something else (stress), I crashed!!!..then crashed a second

time....

Right now I can only work 3 hrs per week (one hr at a time), Im

hoping to soon build that up to working an hr each day. This illness

can be so so variable. Just keep holding onto the faith that some

time in the future you may be able to work full time again.

>

> I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

day).

>

> Could you tell me your experience?

>

> Thanks a lot, cheers.

>

> Massimo

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Wendi,

I don't mind sharing at all )

I didn't even consider having children until I was in my late

twenties. I was worried they would be sick like me.

Age 26 I found a doctor who was nutritionally oriented and after a

year and a half working on gut and candida issues I was improved.

After that I had hyperbaric oxygen treatment, homeopathy, amalgam

removal and chelation (which turned out not to be successful and I

only discovered that for sure since having children), and only after

that did I feel confident enough in my health status, and in the

network around me (of health carers, plus family support) to plan a

family.

I had my babies at 34 and 36. What can I say? They are wonderful,

inspiring, and they've helped me to discover capacities I never knew

I had! They are excellent for my mental health!

Both times, getting pregnant, being pregnant, childbirth all went so

well it almost felt like some kind of reward for having suffered ill

health all those years. Apart from 1 week, for 4 years I was either

pregnant or breastfeeding. I relied a lot on family to help. The most

difficult times were (same as for any breastfeeding Mother) the first

12 weeks or so after each birth. I crashed a bit after the second

birth.....I got very run down and needed to spend weeks in bed. I got

myself somewhat better by taking extra minerals and eating extra

carefully, but I still have ongoing chemical sensitivities and

fatigue. I still have CFS/FMS.

I think the sustained high progesterone levels encourage candida if

you're susceptible, also copper levels can rise during pregnancy (and

this is a particular issue for me). Also Pregnancy and breastfeeding

can be a drain on anyones mineral status....so perhaps something for

someone with CFS to watch especially closely.

How am I handling motherhood? Pretty well I think.

I'm an At Home Mum, with a supportive husband, and a mother who helps

out by minding the children if I need some time to rest, and in a

million other ways. I was lucky to have children who slept through

the night relatively early (8 or 9 weeks). The early weeks of sleep

deprivation were extra difficult and I couldn't expect to get

anything other than feeding the baby done in those weeks. I relied a

lot on my mother to help with meals and housework, plus to feed the

baby expressed milk so I could get some extra rest. I've been strict

with daytime sleeps for the kids and I take a nap every day. In fact

I had to start doing that from the about the midpoint of my first

pregnancy and I was lucky the flexibilty of my work allowed for that.

Early nights might have done just as well though.

I don't know how I'd manage without my midday rest.

Family support and routine are two things that spring to mind when I

think how I make motherhood work well for me.

I'm hoping to start implementing some of the DAN! ideas to get my

health to a better status again. I have a 2 year old and a 4 year old

to keep up with...they're the best motivation there is! And, they're

hard work! Thank goodness they've continued to be great sleepers!

I hope you can get your health to a place where you feel confident.

You might be pleasantly surprised like I was at how well your body

can handle pregnancy. Having children and enjoying them is the most

wonderful thing....I hope you get to achieve your dream!!!

Anne (CFS/FMS 21 years)

PS if there's anything at all more specific you want to know feel

free to email me )

,

> >

> > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

> never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

> day).

> >

> > Could you tell me your experience?

> >

> > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> >

> > Massimo

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Massimo,

Hi, sorry.....no, I've been ill for 21 years. I'm 38.

I was improved, but not recovered when I had children. I found that

pregnancy and breastfeeding seemed to deplete my energy levels and

mineral/nutritional status...but I think that happens even to mothers

in the best of health.

There has been no long term worsening of my illness that I can tell,

just the extra tiredness that anyone could expect.

I rely on extra family help on a day to day basis and that helps me

manage my illness.

Like I told Wendi, the children have been great for my mental health!

(They're wonderful!)

Anne (CFS/FMS for 21 years.)

> >

> > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

> never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours

a

> day).

> >

> > Could you tell me your experience?

> >

> > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> >

> > Massimo

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

How long were you able to maintain the full work week before crashing?

Thanks,

Adrienne

----- Original Message -----

From: tania_selth

Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:30 PM

Hi, I went from bedridden.. to recovering (over many years) and ended

up being able to work quite happily 74-76 hrs per week. (sigh) then

due to something else (stress), I crashed!!!..then crashed a second

time....

Right now I can only work 3 hrs per week (one hr at a time), Im

hoping to soon build that up to working an hr each day. This illness

can be so so variable. Just keep holding onto the faith that some

time in the future you may be able to work full time again.

>

> I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working, or

never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9 hours a

day).

>

> Could you tell me your experience?

>

> Thanks a lot, cheers.

>

> Massimo

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shaylaina,

This poem is for you, especially the stanza about a bad night and getting up

for the children and doing what needs to be done.

The Invitation

It doesn’t interest me what you do for a living.

I want to know what you ache for

and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart’s longing.

It doesn’t interest me how old you are.

I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool

for love

for your dream

for the adventure of being alive.

It doesn’t interest me what planets are squaring your moon...

I want to know if you have touched the centre of your own sorrow

if you have been opened by life’s betrayals

or have become shrivelled and closed

from fear of further pain.

I want to know if you can sit with pain

mine or your own

without moving to hide it

or fade it

or fix it.

I want to know if you can be with joy

mine or your own

if you can dance with wildness

and let the ecstasy fill you to the tips of your fingers and toes

without cautioning us

to be careful

to be realistic

to remember the limitations of being human.

It doesn’t interest me if the story you are telling me

is true.

I want to know if you can

disappoint another

to be true to yourself.

If you can bear the accusation of betrayal

and not betray your own soul.

If you can be faithless

and therefore trustworthy.

I want to know if you can see Beauty

even when it is not pretty

every day.

And if you can source your own life

from its presence.

I want to know if you can live with failure

yours and mine

and still stand at the edge of the lake

and shout to the silver of the full moon,

“Yes.”

It doesn’t interest me

to know where you live or how much money you have.

I want to know if you can get up

after the night of grief and despair

weary and bruised to the bone

and do what needs to be done

to feed the children.

It doesn’t interest me who you know

or how you came to be here.

I want to know if you will stand

in the centre of the fire

with me

and not shrink back.

It doesn’t interest me where or what or with whom

you have studied.

I want to know what sustains you

from the inside

when all else falls away.

I want to know if you can be alone

with yourself

and if you truly like the company you keep

in the empty moments.

by Oriah Mountain Dreamer

shaylaina <shaylaina@...> wrote:

I was a stay at home mom for many years too and my ex never could

handle how I felt.

I had a hard time in school and never did well, by 1pm every day my

mind couldn't focus anymore and I wanted to sleep so bad I had

headaches the rest of the day.

After I left my ex I finally kept going to my doctor over and over

looking for answers...CFS.

....but she said that disability won't recognize CFS..once again,

those who need it can't get help...

I was on social assistance for awhile and then found someone who

actually wanted to help me with how I felt and didn't mind me being

home.

The relationship didn't work out, but I got a job through my

brother. I didn't know how I was going to handle it, but I was

there every day. I often heard from people that I was going to burn

myself out and I had to have down time, but I have to keep two kids

and food on the table and I had to go to work. The hardest part is

the brain fog. Try to organize, keep everything together, remember

everything, tally and count..it's hard to have an organized,

funtional mind that is wants to stay in a haze and then each day

since I couldn't just go lay down when the fatique really hit, the

headaches would come on.

Right now I'm on E.I. but I will have to find something once again

to pay the rent and feed my kids and so on. It's not easy. I have

to be motivated and think of what I'm going to do..as my kids get

older I will face the lose of child support. I can't take on any

jobs that is fast paced or high pressure. I have some ideas of what

I'm going to try and if they don't work out I'll have no choice but

to go out and get what I can at any store and I'm sure it will only

be part time, so I'll be juggling about 3 jobs...I have no idea how

many jobs I'll go through or if I'll be able to keep one, all I can

do is try.

Like everyone some days are worse then others. Today I was so tired

I slept after taking my kids to school until 12 noon. I couldn't get

anything done around here and by 4 I laid back down until 6. Not

every day is this bad, but when your at a job and you have a day

like this it's impossible to function well, but I did it once and

I'll do it again and again and how ever many times I have to as food

has to be on the table. I'll do what I can for my kids.

> >

> > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working,

or

> never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9

hours a

> day).

> >

> > Could you tell me your experience?

> >

> > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> >

> > Massimo

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just wait until they get to be 12-15 years old!! You may have a

different take on them then. Just kidding, sorry Ken. I just

couldn't pass this one up. I have a 12 year old daughter. Kids are

great at all ages as long as they have caring parents.

Mike C

>

> I had my babies at 34 and 36. What can I say? They are wonderful,

> inspiring, and they've helped me to discover capacities I never knew

> I had! They are excellent for my mental health!

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working,

or

> > never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9

hours a

> > day).

> > >

> > > Could you tell me your experience?

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> > >

> > > Massimo

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I work 5 days per week, 8 hours per day, in a non-stressful job as a

computer programmer for the state of Colorado. And I also spend

evenings and weekends studying at the local community college so I can

better understand biology, chemistry, biochem, physics, etc.

I do both of these so that I can get well. Without money or

education, my life is just going to go downhill very rapidly.

How do I feel? Exhausted, all the time. But I find ways to cope

(lunchtime naps in the car, early nights when there's no school, lots

of meds and supps, minimal housework, etc.).

However, I am reaching the point where I feel I might have to drop the

classes. Organic Chemistry is just too tough when you have brain fog,

and you program all day long also. But I don't want to do that...

I feel like I am in a catch-22 situation: Work, study, make yourself

worse, but at least have a possibility of getting well. Or rest, try

to recover, and end up on disability or welfare with no hope of real

treatment.

Kat.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working,

> or

> > > never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9

> hours a

> > > day).

> > > >

> > > > Could you tell me your experience?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> > > >

> > > > Massimo

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

> Hi, Can you tell me what are the DAN! ideas referenced in your

> comment? Thanks in advance.

> >

Hi, I'm doing the carbohydrate specific diet (still working on gut and

absorption issues), plus using digestive enzymes. This is a suggested

plan of action in the DAN! book " Autism--Effective Biomedical

Treatments " . (I have already been on a gluten free/casein free diet for

a year after establishing that worked for me.)

I don't have access to many of the blood tests available (they're

simply not available in NZ) so I'm having to feel my way. I've known I

have sulfation and methylation problems...since I did some internet

research about 8 years ago. I also have high copper and low molybdenum

which seems to be common in Austism. I don't have Autism, but believe I

have a lot in common biochemically so discovering all the DAN work has

been a big help. (I'm reading Amy Yasko's stuff too...but her treatment

seems to be even more dependant on bloodwork etc I don't have access to

so I can't go down her path yet.)

I'm taking first tier supplements as per DAN suggestions. I'm using

Kirkman spectrum complete, adult dose and taking extra B6 (P5P). This

covers my approach to lowering copper, plus the high Mag & B6

combination. Also includes taurine which seems to be important in my

situation. I'm taking essential fatty acids, and milk thistle (to

support the liver) currently too.

Next steps include second tier supplements to try and support

methylation directly...then maybe to revisit heavy metal chelation

(which I have done before but probably shouldn't have at that time.)

I hope that answers your questions

Anne.

[Guest guest]

Hi Massimo,

I got CFS in 1987, went on half-time the next year, recovered enough

to put in another 5 years in academia, then with tremendous stress and

PTSD I had a relapse and had to leave work in 1994. With lots of rest

and dietary and lifestyle changes, I almost recovered in 1999 -- e.g.

I was putting in a full day but in a non-stressful situation; my brain

still wasn't quite right, not good enough to be a professor again.

Then I crashed for a 1 week raw juice fast. [told that story] and it's

been a slow uphill climb with a lot of valleys for the past 6 years

and yes, I also immersed myself in learning about natural healing,

nutrition, chemistry, etc. to be able to help myself. I think it's

paid off as now I can do just about everything I did before I got sick

with CFS, including organizing complex material and exercising.

But there is one big thing holding me back from returning to work:

whenever I do more than minimal aerobic activity, I feel like I'm

coming down with a cold the next day; but when I don't exercise

enough, i can't sleep. So there is this crazy fine line I have to

tread, and it gives me very little latitude right now to be engaged in

projects with deadlines, not to mention early work hours.

I do hope to be back in the work force next year if anyone will hire

me after 13 years of disability!!!

Z

In , " *Massimo "

> > > <maxupolo@ .>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I was wondering if anybody here was able to go back working,

> > or

> > > > never stopped, 5 or 6 days a week on normal shifts ( 8 or 9

> > hours a

> > > > day).

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you tell me your experience?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot, cheers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Massimo

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I have worked and am currently in full time education (MBA)

I have never been severely ill so I cannot speak for everyone but I

can say that at time when I wasn't working, my confidence dropped and

I thought my brain fog was worse that it actually was.

I believe that if you were smart before CFS then you will to the

outside world , still be perceived as smart

Danny

[Guest guest]

Sure sounds like you fit Cheney's/Lerner's cardio problem theory.

Mike C

> --- zaccolini <dryoga@...> wrote:

> > But there is one big thing holding me back from

> > returning to work:

> > whenever I do more than minimal aerobic activity, I

> > feel like I'm

> > coming down with a cold the next day; but when I

> > don't exercise

> > enough, i can't sleep. So there is this crazy fine

> > line I have to

> > tread, and it gives me very little <<snip>>