Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 When you get a fatigue that comes back, whats the best thing to try? Glutathione? B12? I was just knocked out with an infection and have a fatigue again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 > hi martin, are u taking all the things for " energy " --discussed here (dr sinatra etc)- CoQ10 (+/- idebenone), Mg++, l-carnitine, +/- d-ribose, methyl or hydroxy-B12 injections, Se++(cofactor); as per the IV discussion above, modified Myers cocktail (with 10+ gms C, B12 IV, and IV gluatathione push) as well as adding lipoceutical GSH...then again if all the " speculation " on the channelopathy is true as the Gow paper (patent) went into... also all the colon " helps " posted here--colostrum/transfer factor, esp lactoferrin (was surprised to see the medline paper on lactoferrin and all it does in " piglets " -see above), after the diarrhea illness one would think is esp impt? You might consider holding any probiotic temporarily after the illness as possible increased gut translocation? if it was viral that takes away the brush border enzymes so usually they say to go on a " bland diet " , lots of liquids, and enzymes (like similase) with meals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveler's_diarrhea (or google) gives a list of bugs...the koseri post above takes u to the immunsupport article on the list the belgium clinics check for anyway...that may give you some ideas on tests to consider? others may have better ideas or you may check out a book like " digestive wellness " by lipski. pangorn's book went as far as taking oral IVIG, interesting concept. has anybody found a lab that does this antibody test panel? still waiting for some " brave heart " to try Poly-MVA. BW, mike ( " Check with your doctor " ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I might try a glutathione push. YOu cant get glutathione from GPs here in the UK. They just do NOT treat ME/CFS. they just give pain killers and sometimes B12 injections, although they always say that B12 has never worked for ME/CFS as there was a trial once with it but it did not help. Private docs are all for all this stuff. This makes me wonder!! If you know what I mean. What were you meaning about the Gow paper by the way? What does he say in it? > > > hi martin, > are u taking all the things for " energy " --discussed here (dr sinatra > etc)- CoQ10 (+/- idebenone), Mg++, l-carnitine, +/- d-ribose, methyl > or hydroxy-B12 injections, Se++(cofactor); as per the IV discussion > above, modified Myers cocktail (with 10+ gms C, B12 IV, and IV > gluatathione push) as well as adding lipoceutical GSH...then again > if all the " speculation " on the channelopathy is true as the Gow > paper (patent) went into... > > also all the colon " helps " posted here--colostrum/transfer factor, > esp lactoferrin (was surprised to see the medline paper on > lactoferrin and all it does in " piglets " -see above), after the > diarrhea illness one would think is esp impt? You might consider > holding any probiotic temporarily after the illness as possible > increased gut translocation? if it was viral that takes away the > brush border enzymes so usually they say to go on a " bland diet " , > lots of liquids, and enzymes (like similase) with meals. > > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveler's_diarrhea (or google) > gives a list of bugs...the koseri post above takes u to the > immunsupport article on the list the belgium clinics check for > anyway...that may give you some ideas on tests to consider? > > others may have better ideas or you may check out a book like > " digestive wellness " by lipski. pangorn's book went as far as taking > oral IVIG, interesting concept. > > has anybody found a lab that does this antibody test panel? > > still waiting for some " brave heart " to try Poly-MVA. > > BW, mike ( " Check with your doctor " ). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 If you can't get them to prescribe glutathione, can you order the sublingual (non prescription) from a US internet site? Also you can raise yours by taking precursors and by taking alpha lipoic and selenium to support glutathione recyling. Z > > When you get a fatigue that comes back, whats the best thing to try? > Glutathione? B12? I was just knocked out with an infection and have a > fatigue again. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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