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" bob niederman " <bobn1955@...> wrote:

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> Where in " low intensity exercise " does professinal soccer fit? I

agre that exercise within your limits is a good thing, though.

>

And it seems no less unlikely that Jarrett could continue to

play piano, when the CFS I saw caused people to be unable to sit up,

watch TV, read a book, or remember their own phone number.

How many people have lost their car keys or wallet, only to find

them later when they open the freezer?

Dr Cheney was worried that people would become deconditioned, but

attempts to stand up set a pretty strict limitation on what you

could do - when you just pass out.

But as we saw wild variations develope in peoples illness, it

became pretty clear that the way individuals were affected was so

unpredictable that we couldn't necessarily rule someone out of CFS

just because they were able exercise or think at odd times - while

not at others.

It's like the weirdness of being so slammed during times of weather

change. It just seems to make no sense at all unless you know what

is causing it.

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The co-cure list has several articles on Jarrett. Classic case

of acute-onset - he couldnt even *listen* to music because it made him

sicker, looking at sheet music made him dizzy, maybe still does. He

said it felt like aliens invaded his body, and the the correct name

should be " forever dead syndrome " .

He is/was being treated with long term antibiotics of " interstitial

pacterial parasites " - but he had to stop playing for 2 years and now

the 'solo concerts' days are over - too hard - but he does record, and

occasionally tour, in a trio.

I think Jarret has what you have, or at least something which at

it's worst was fairly indistiguishable; I don't think Akers

does/did. Running around full speed for an hour at a time just

doesn't fit.

But there is a lot of variability, so I could be all wet on this.

- Bob N.

On 10/28/06, erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

> And it seems no less unlikely that Jarrett could continue to

> play piano, when the CFS I saw caused people to be unable to sit up,

> watch TV, read a book, or remember their own phone number.

>

> How many people have lost their car keys or wallet, only to find

> them later when they open the freezer?

>

>

> But as we saw wild variations develope in peoples illness, it

> became pretty clear that the way individuals were affected was so

> unpredictable that we couldn't necessarily rule someone out of CFS

> just because they were able exercise or think at odd times - while

> not at others.

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It definitely was a symptom in the beginning. Eyes would burn, hands would

become cold, legs would be on fire, brain would become usless, and let's not

forget migraines. But after years of treatment, and continuing treatments and

supplements, exercise is possible, within thresholds. Proper treatment over

time is the answer to this question of exercise, and how Akers could

do it. The post about INcline Village.. the inability to stand and having to l

ean.. described me entirely, and prohibited exercise.. before I started

taking Lisinopril.. a blood pressure medication that causes vasodilation.

Topamax

stops my migraines. Magnesium and elavil relax my muscles. Reduced

Lglutathione gives me energy, as does provigil, without which I could not work.

Valtrex is my antiviral, and naltraxone gives me my immune system. Antibiotics

fought off the other bugs I was postiive for in the past, for years. P5P, a

precursor to a B vitamin was also essential for my irregularly shaped red blood

cells, which are now normal.

Carol in LI, NY

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" bob niederman " <bobn1955@...> wrote:

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> The co-cure list has several articles on Jarrett. Classic

case of acute-onset - he couldnt even *listen* to music because it

made him sicker, looking at sheet music made him dizzy, maybe still

does. He said it felt like aliens invaded his body, and the the

correct name should be " forever dead syndrome " .

>

> I think Jarret has what you have, or at least something

which at it's worst was fairly indistiguishable; I don't think

Akers does/did. Running around full speed for an hour at a

time just doesn't fit.

>

> But there is a lot of variability, so I could be all wet on this.

>

> - Bob N.

Totally agree. I try to keep an open mind, but being able to

participate in any sports or physical activity was completly off the

table - gone!

All of us in Incline could be easily discerned even at a distance

because we literally staggered with a peculiar and

disctinctive 'gait' from places where we could sit - to another

place where we could lean or sit again.

Nobody could stand unaided for long - let alone walk fast or run.

We couldn't hide our condition if we ventured out, anyone could spot

us - if they weren't " brainlock denialists " .

When someone is clearly suffering with something that sounds really

similar, I hate to say " Your description doesn't fit " , but the

inability to exercise or tolerate the after-effects was the absolute

hallmark of CFS.

Or at least, " CFS " as it was in the beginning.

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I think the info below is right on the money. I was diagnosed with

'CFS' by four docs, two of which were infectious disease specialists.

However, after the initial devasting symptoms, I have been snow

skiing, I do my own yard work and play basketball w/ my daughter

sometimes. .

I also get extreme post exertional fatigue if I overdue things. I

guess you could say I have CFS 'light'.

, I have observed that a lot of people have extreme symptoms

initially, within the first 1-3 years, then maybe 1/2 improve but

never get back to 100%. The other 1/2 stay real sick.

Mike C (oh yeah, my weight went from 155 pre CFS to 123 now as well)

In , " erikmoldwarrior "

<erikmoldwarrior@...> Bob wrote:

Running around full speed for an hour at a

> time just doesn't fit.

> >

> > But there is a lot of variability, so I could be all wet on this.

> >

> > - Bob N.

Then wrote:

> Totally agree. I try to keep an open mind, but being able to

> participate in any sports or physical activity was completly off

the

> table - gone!

> All of us in Incline could be easily discerned even at a distance

> because we literally staggered with a peculiar and

> disctinctive 'gait' from places where we could sit - to another

> place where we could lean or sit again.

> Nobody could stand unaided for long - let alone walk fast or run.

> We couldn't hide our condition if we ventured out, anyone could

spot

> us - if they weren't " brainlock denialists " .

>

> When someone is clearly suffering with something that sounds

really

> similar, I hate to say " Your description doesn't fit " , but the

> inability to exercise or tolerate the after-effects was the

absolute

> hallmark of CFS.

> Or at least, " CFS " as it was in the beginning.

> -

>

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