Re: Cognitive Functioning?!

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In a message dated 22/10/2006 17:07:01 GMT Standard Time,

lifelonglearner79@... writes:

f you have improved, a great deal, in cognitive functioning, please

let me know your secret, or what is the process? the supplements? or

whatever?

TIA!

*********18 months of total detox of all the major detox organs and Then

topping up with nutrients:

1) liver

2)bladder

3)kidneys

4) colon

5)bowel

Regards

CS

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> *********18 months of total detox of all the major detox organs and

Then

> topping up with nutrients:

>

> 1) liver

> 2)bladder

> 3)kidneys

> 4) colon

> 5)bowel

>

> Regards

> CS

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>

> If you have improved, a great deal, in cognitive functioning, please

> let me know your secret, or what is the process? the supplements? or

> whatever?

>

> TIA!

>

See responses to questions in messages 99703 and 96849.

Zuzu

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<lifelonglearner79@> wrote:

> If you have improved, a great deal, in cognitive functioning,

please let me know your secret, or what is the process? the

supplements? or whatever?

>

I remember being in support groups, hearing vague rumors of people

who had recovered, but if so, they never seemed to come back to tell

us what they had done - or even if the rumor was true.

We all promised that if any of us found something that really made

a difference, it would be our duty to come back.

" Mycotoxin Avoidance " .

-

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I've come back dozens of times and told people about my recovery. People can

check out all my posts in the archives, plus every couple weeks someone contacts

me offline.

Doris

Re: Cognitive Functioning?!

I remember being in support groups, hearing vague rumors of people

who had recovered, but if so, they never seemed to come back to tell

us what they had done - or even if the rumor was true.

We all promised that if any of us found something that really made

a difference, it would be our duty to come back.

" Mycotoxin Avoidance " .

.

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Doris,

Thank you for your faithfulness. Interesting, the differing perceptions of

reality, huh?

It certainly is wonderful to be reminded that there IS such a thing as recovery.

Adrienne

Re: Cognitive Functioning?!

I remember being in support groups, hearing vague rumors of people

who had recovered, but if so, they never seemed to come back to tell

us what they had done - or even if the rumor was true.

We all promised that if any of us found something that really made

a difference, it would be our duty to come back.

" Mycotoxin Avoidance " .

.

[Guest guest]

>

> If you have improved, a great deal, in cognitive functioning,

please

> let me know your secret, or what is the process? the supplements?

or

> whatever?

>

> TIA!

>

I did recover from this illness once and was able to do everything

again, work full time and do over time too.

I didnt do anything to get better except rest as soon as I started

to tire and take things very easy. With time that brought me much

improvement. I also avoided stress. (The thing is as soon as I got

major stress in my life again, I just relapsed again but for a time

there, I truely thought I'd beaten this illness and recovered!!).

What I've found with my latest relapse, is that my cognitive

functioning improves greatly if I go to having a fresh juice only

diet.

I once did that for 4 days.. juicing my own stuff and having

nothing else. My head cleared so so much and I was able to think

well again. It fixed my ability to understand things...but didnt fix

my memory thou, so that appears to be something different again.

I found some things freshly juiced had better affects on me than

other things juiced... the combination of fresh beetroot, celery and

apple (which I then added some freshly ground pepper too)..seemed to

be the best juice combination which seemed to help me the best.

(apple and carrot didnt seem to help me so much).

Since I did that .. Ive since seen something online about beetroot

having positive affects on many with CFS so maybe it was that

beetroot.

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I think a lot depends on your chosen career and how demanding it is of

people. And the complexity of the work and if you can handle it.

*sigh*

[Guest guest]

After I did a rigorous juicing protocol for three weeks, I felt

much, much better. It may be why I am still able to work; juicing

and whey protein, specifically ImmunePro. I was in real bad shape

for 2-3 years, about 10 years ago before I got the juicer and found

out about whey from Cheney. Nothing else has really helped, except

for B-12, but that doesn't help anymore.

Mike C

Doris wrote:

> I didnt do anything to get better except rest as soon as I

started

> to tire and take things very easy. With time that brought me much

> improvement. I also avoided stress. (The thing is as soon as I

got

> major stress in my life again, I just relapsed again but for a

time

> there, I truely thought I'd beaten this illness and recovered!!).

>

> What I've found with my latest relapse, is that my cognitive

> functioning improves greatly if I go to having a fresh juice only

> diet.

>

> I once did that for 4 days.. juicing my own stuff and having

> nothing else. My head cleared so so much and I was able to think

> well again. It fixed my ability to understand things...but didnt

fix

> my memory thou, so that appears to be something different again.

>

> I found some things freshly juiced had better affects on me than

> other things juiced... the combination of fresh beetroot, celery

and

> apple (which I then added some freshly ground pepper too)..seemed

to

> be the best juice combination which seemed to help me the best.

> (apple and carrot didnt seem to help me so much).

>

> Since I did that .. Ive since seen something online about

beetroot

> having positive affects on many with CFS so maybe it was that

> beetroot.

>

[Guest guest]

What was your juicing protocol?

Chris

>

> After I did a rigorous juicing protocol for three weeks, I felt

> much, much better. It may be why I am still able to work; juicing

> and whey protein, specifically ImmunePro. I was in real bad shape

> for 2-3 years, about 10 years ago before I got the juicer and found

> out about whey from Cheney. Nothing else has really helped, except

> for B-12, but that doesn't help anymore.

[Guest guest]

Vegetable and fruit juices. All kinds. The more variety you

consume, the more nutrition that you get. If you Google 'juicing',

you can prob. get more info. than you need. It's worth a try-

good luck,

Mike C (I actually like carrot juice w/ 1/2 apple)

> >

> > After I did a rigorous juicing protocol for three weeks, I felt

> > much, much better. It may be why I am still able to work;

juicing

> > and whey protein, specifically ImmunePro. I was in real bad

shape

> > for 2-3 years, about 10 years ago before I got the juicer and

found

> > out about whey from Cheney. Nothing else has really helped,

except

> > for B-12, but that doesn't help anymore.

>

[Guest guest]

Cool. Thanks for the info

>

> Vegetable and fruit juices. All kinds. The more variety you

> consume, the more nutrition that you get. If you Google 'juicing',

> you can prob. get more info. than you need. It's worth a try-

> good luck,

>

> Mike C (I actually like carrot juice w/ 1/2 apple)

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In a message dated 26/10/2006 06:06:40 GMT Standard Time,

duckblossm@... writes:

Can you tell us about that protocol?

Adrienne

Re: Cognitive Functioning?S

After I did a rigorous juicing protocol for three weeks, I felt

much, much better. It may be why I am still able to work; juicing

and whey protein, specifically ImmunePro. I was in real bad shape

for 2-3 years, about 10 years ago before I got the juicer and found

out about whey from Cheney. Nothing else has really helped, except

for B-12, but that doesn't help anymore.

****Certain juices will help with certain organs.

ie there are juices that will help flush your bladder and others that will

help flush your kidneys.

If you try and be specific about what you target you will notice you will

get better sooner!

Regards

CS

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Can you tell us about that protocol?

Adrienne

Re: Cognitive Functioning?!

After I did a rigorous juicing protocol for three weeks, I felt

much, much better. It may be why I am still able to work; juicing

and whey protein, specifically ImmunePro. I was in real bad shape

for 2-3 years, about 10 years ago before I got the juicer and found

out about whey from Cheney. Nothing else has really helped, except

for B-12, but that doesn't help anymore.

[Guest guest]

mike;

Juices only?

Adrienne

Re: Cognitive Functioning?!

Vegetable and fruit juices. All kinds. The more variety you

consume, the more nutrition that you get. If you Google 'juicing',

you can prob. get more info. than you need. It's worth a try-

good luck,

Mike C (I actually like carrot juice w/ 1/2 apple)

[Guest guest]

Does this list have a conflict-of-interest disclosure policy?

In other words, do any of the members have any vested interest in selling a

product of any kind, and/or discouraging any other products?

Or is the leadership affilated with any cult or religion, i.e. Scientology,

etc. ?

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike - I would be an avid juicer if it didn't screw with my adrenals and

blood sugar. I use to juice alot in the mornings. I'd have exactly what you

said, carrot and apples, and then in the evenings I would do a veggie mix.

Problem was, by 10am I would have a hypoglycemic crash so bad I thought I was

going to pass out. I wish I did not have this problem. Now, I'm stuck having to

do high protein, which yes, I feel better on, but I REALLY miss juicing..

Kind Regards, Wendi

Re: Cognitive Functioning? !

Vegetable and fruit juices. All kinds. The more variety you

consume, the more nutrition that you get. If you Google 'juicing',

you can prob. get more info. than you need. It's worth a try-

good luck,

Mike C (I actually like carrot juice w/ 1/2 apple)

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LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

>

> Does this list have a conflict-of-interest disclosure policy?

>

> In other words, do any of the members have any vested interest in

selling a product of any kind, and/or discouraging any other products?

>

> Or is the leadership affilated with any cult or religion, i.e.

Scientology, etc. ?

>

Although I'm not part of the leadership, I used to say that I was

advocating " Stachysterianism " - the cult of mold avoidance.

Considering the amount of pain I've been able to evade, I've always

been surprised that people are so completely disinterested.

You'd think they'd at least want to find out if such a thing were

even possible.

-

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I've heard that if you teach worms to run mazes and then you 'juice' them up

and feed them to other worms, those worms somehow improve their ability to

run those mazes...

Just kidding, trying to inject a note of humor to a dire and dour

situation...

:\

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Wendi,

How come you can't have both protein and juice?

Adrienne

Re: Cognitive Functioning? !

Vegetable and fruit juices. All kinds. The more variety you

consume, the more nutrition that you get. If you Google 'juicing',

you can prob. get more info. than you need. It's worth a try-

good luck,

Mike C (I actually like carrot juice w/ 1/2 apple)

[Guest guest]

I would crash on carrots and apples, too.

My best juicing combo is

carrot

beets

ginger

garlic

parsley

cucumber

dandelion greens, kale or collards but not spinach

nettles when in season

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

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My ex sister-in-law put me in touch w/ someone who had improved w/

CFS, and they lived in Tulsa, OK. The PWC faxed me juicing info.

from a Dr. Robbins in Tulsa. He is an MD, w/ a degree from

Puerto Rico or somewhere (Google ' Robbins'). The PWC faxed

me about 25 pages of juicing info. which I gave to a neighbor who

died of colon cancer about five years ago. So I don't have the info.

anymore. But it is not complicated. The juicing program is just

a cleansing program that you stay on for up to a month. The problem

is that you don't get anything to chew on, but there are some things

you can chew, I just don't remember. I would think though that there

is someone on this list who has done the juicing thing more recently

who could provide better info. I also think Robbins has a book

out that may cost only $5-6 now.

Akers took her juicer w/ her to soccer games. Juicing is

analgous to training for athletics, the better and longer that you

stick to it, the better you will be, although this may not work for

everyone. I bot a Champion juicer at Whole Foods, but there are

probably a lot cheaper ones. Google 'juicing' and ' Robbins'

and you can get a lot better info. than that which my memory is able

to provide. Hope this helps,

Mike C

In , " Adrienne G. "

<duckblossm@...> wrote:

>

> Can you tell us about that protocol?

> Adrienne

> Re: Cognitive Functioning?!

>

>

> After I did a rigorous juicing protocol for three weeks, I felt

> much, much better. It may be why I am still able to work;

juicing

> and whey protein, specifically ImmunePro. I was in real bad

shape

> for 2-3 years, about 10 years ago before I got the juicer and

found

> out about whey from Cheney. Nothing else has really helped,

except

> for B-12, but that doesn't help anymore.

[Guest guest]

I would say juicing is not for everyone, but in your situation,

Wendi,

you might be able to do a little juicing along with bacon and eggs

in the morning so you would get your protein.

MC

>

> Hi Mike - I would be an avid juicer if it didn't screw with my

adrenals and blood sugar. I use to juice alot in the mornings. I'd

have exactly what you said, carrot and apples, and then in the

evenings I would do a veggie mix. Problem was, by 10am I would have

a hypoglycemic crash so bad I thought I was going to pass out. I

wish I did not have this problem. Now, I'm stuck having to do high

protein, which yes, I feel better on, but I REALLY miss juicing..

>

> Kind Regards, Wendi

[Guest guest]

When will people stop talking about Akers? How could any

body think that she had CFIDS and could still be a profesional

athlete? what nonsense.

On 10/26/06, yakcamp22 <yakcamp22@...> wrote:

>

> Akers took her juicer w/ her to soccer games.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

It has irritated me too when has been shown as poster child for ME/CFS.

However, she did not just tough it through or fight her way back. She collapsed

many times on the field, had Migraines, cried in the showers, had to have IVs

between plays, even then could not get out to get her Gold medal, and had to

retire from Soccor, when at peak of career...the World's Greatest Player in

Women's soccor.

I don't know her condition, and I think she does speaking engagements, much

about her religious faith. She hid her illness allot, and may still do that, and

may be damaged fom those years. I could not have done what she did, but did not

begin a top athlete, or have IVs and other top care from the beginning.

.. The 1st four years, I could push through to hike, dance, or swim, then crash.

{Thusly, the next many years, mostly bedridden, and multiply injured now.}

Now, with dozens of treatments daily, I can appear perfectly normal, tho I'm

very injured in all systems, for a couple of hours most days...sometimes a few

hours.

Constantly in pain,paying for it in between, and hopelessly brain-scrambled. {I

left my purse at a stranger (friend of friend's) house last night, today had no

idea where it was, and they were told I do that " all the time " .

So, maybe she has a lighter case, but CFS did end her career with allot of

suffering, she has top treatments, and who knows what's behind the scene...?

Katrina

> >

> > Akers took her juicer w/ her to soccer games.

>