Re: Sulfur buildup/best way to take whey?

[Guest guest]

You could try bathing in 2 cups of epsom salts 2 to 3 times a week.Also you

could try b12 injections.These both work for me.

j mascis <mascis_j@...> wrote: Hey,

I have a few questions. I'm not too good with coherently going from

one topic to the next, so I'll just bullet point this.

-I take whey protein, and had good results for a while. Then started

to plateau, then downslide, kind of. I read that this happens often.

I also read in Amy Yasko's protocol or whatever that she mentioned

something along the lines of " when there is a break in the

methylation chain(sp?), a common impulse is to boost glutathione.

Doing so, however, somehow results in an increase in sulfur, a

byproduct of some aspect of the methylation cycle, and so on... " I

can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like that,

except more detailed. Does anyone else remember anything about that?

-When I take whey, after a couple weeks or months, I feel kind of

like something is building up inside me, for lack of a more detailed

explaination. Like in my body. It kind of also seems to feel similar

to when I eat alot of beans or lentils for an extended period of

time, as in weeks. Which also have lots of sulfuf, don't they?

-So what I'm asking is, is there anything to take that helps remove

possible sulfur overload? Anything to do? Also, is there a best way

to take whey? My mom mentioned when I told her about the plateau,

maybe take it on and off. She was kind of joking, and it was pretty

funny, but maybe there's something there. Every other day? Two on,

one off? One on, two off? Is there anything to consider from the

methylation standpoint? A week on, a week off? Week on, couple days

off? Do I really gotta do all this myself?

Thanks for any help.

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[Guest guest]

That sounds like it could be a CBS up-regulation. Dr. Amy says that the effects

of sulfur can take several months to build up and kick in. So the whey may be

generating high ammonia in your body. You could do a UAA (urinary amino acid)

test to see what your ammonia level looks like (it also gives you a lot of other

info, including sulfur level).

Trina

j mascis <mascis_j@...> wrote:

Hey,

I have a few questions. I'm not too good with coherently going from

one topic to the next, so I'll just bullet point this.

-I take whey protein, and had good results for a while. Then started

to plateau, then downslide, kind of. I read that this happens often.

I also read in Amy Yasko's protocol or whatever that she mentioned

something along the lines of " when there is a break in the

methylation chain(sp?), a common impulse is to boost glutathione.

Doing so, however, somehow results in an increase in sulfur, a

byproduct of some aspect of the methylation cycle, and so on... " I

can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like that,

except more detailed. Does anyone else remember anything about that?

-When I take whey, after a couple weeks or months, I feel kind of

like something is building up inside me, for lack of a more detailed

explaination. Like in my body. It kind of also seems to feel similar

to when I eat alot of beans or lentils for an extended period of

time, as in weeks. Which also have lots of sulfuf, don't they?

-So what I'm asking is, is there anything to take that helps remove

possible sulfur overload? Anything to do? Also, is there a best way

to take whey? My mom mentioned when I told her about the plateau,

maybe take it on and off. She was kind of joking, and it was pretty

funny, but maybe there's something there. Every other day? Two on,

one off? One on, two off? Is there anything to consider from the

methylation standpoint? A week on, a week off? Week on, couple days

off? Do I really gotta do all this myself?

Thanks for any help.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, j mascis.

I think Trina is right on. It does sound like a CBS upregulation.

You can order a UAA test from Dr. Yasko's site, and send it to her.

You don't need a doctor's order, because she will sign the order if

you get it from her site. Here is the url:

http://www.testing4health.com/store/product.php?

productid=279 & cat=97 & page=1

At the request of our moderator, we should move further discussion

of the Yasko program to the new sub-group, located at

CFS_Yasko/

Rich

> Hey,

>

> I have a few questions. I'm not too good with coherently going

from

> one topic to the next, so I'll just bullet point this.

>

> -I take whey protein, and had good results for a while. Then

started

> to plateau, then downslide, kind of. I read that this happens

often.

> I also read in Amy Yasko's protocol or whatever that she mentioned

> something along the lines of " when there is a break in the

> methylation chain(sp?), a common impulse is to boost glutathione.

> Doing so, however, somehow results in an increase in sulfur, a

> byproduct of some aspect of the methylation cycle, and so on... " I

> can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like

that,

> except more detailed. Does anyone else remember anything about

that?

>

> -When I take whey, after a couple weeks or months, I feel kind of

> like something is building up inside me, for lack of a more

detailed

> explaination. Like in my body. It kind of also seems to feel

similar

> to when I eat alot of beans or lentils for an extended period of

> time, as in weeks. Which also have lots of sulfuf, don't they?

>

> -So what I'm asking is, is there anything to take that helps

remove

> possible sulfur overload? Anything to do? Also, is there a best

way

> to take whey? My mom mentioned when I told her about the plateau,

> maybe take it on and off. She was kind of joking, and it was

pretty

> funny, but maybe there's something there. Every other day? Two on,

> one off? One on, two off? Is there anything to consider from the

> methylation standpoint? A week on, a week off? Week on, couple

days

> off? Do I really gotta do all this myself?

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk about one

person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought that it might

be more common knowledge, and not proprietary information. So what

would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc? I'm not

able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to money and I

don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of dollars of tests

and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the tests came

back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could continue to be

discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just because a

person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed is general

knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it shouldn't be

a problem. Thanks.

> > Hey,

> >

> > I have a few questions. I'm not too good with coherently going

> from

> > one topic to the next, so I'll just bullet point this.

> >

> > -I take whey protein, and had good results for a while. Then

> started

> > to plateau, then downslide, kind of. I read that this happens

> often.

> > I also read in Amy Yasko's protocol or whatever that she

mentioned

> > something along the lines of " when there is a break in the

> > methylation chain(sp?), a common impulse is to boost

glutathione.

> > Doing so, however, somehow results in an increase in sulfur, a

> > byproduct of some aspect of the methylation cycle, and so on... "

I

> > can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like

> that,

> > except more detailed. Does anyone else remember anything about

> that?

> >

> > -When I take whey, after a couple weeks or months, I feel kind

of

> > like something is building up inside me, for lack of a more

> detailed

> > explaination. Like in my body. It kind of also seems to feel

> similar

> > to when I eat alot of beans or lentils for an extended period of

> > time, as in weeks. Which also have lots of sulfuf, don't they?

> >

> > -So what I'm asking is, is there anything to take that helps

> remove

> > possible sulfur overload? Anything to do? Also, is there a best

> way

> > to take whey? My mom mentioned when I told her about the

plateau,

> > maybe take it on and off. She was kind of joking, and it was

> pretty

> > funny, but maybe there's something there. Every other day? Two

on,

> > one off? One on, two off? Is there anything to consider from the

> > methylation standpoint? A week on, a week off? Week on, couple

> days

> > off? Do I really gotta do all this myself?

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Trina,

>>>Dr. Amy is the only one who

talks about high ammonia.<<<<

Not sure if I'm reading that right, but high Ammonia, multiple causes,and

treatment is talked about by many.

BW

Katrina

> > > Hey,

> > >

> > > I have a few questions. I'm not too good with coherently going

> > from

> > > one topic to the next, so I'll just bullet point this.

> > >

> > > -I take whey protein, and had good results for a while. Then

> > started

> > > to plateau, then downslide, kind of. I read that this happens

> > often.

> > > I also read in Amy Yasko's protocol or whatever that she

> mentioned

> > > something along the lines of " when there is a break in the

> > > methylation chain(sp?), a common impulse is to boost

> glutathione.

> > > Doing so, however, somehow results in an increase in sulfur, a

> > > byproduct of some aspect of the methylation cycle, and so on... "

> I

> > > can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like

> > that,

> > > except more detailed. Does anyone else remember anything about

> > that?

> > >

> > > -When I take whey, after a couple weeks or months, I feel kind

> of

> > > like something is building up inside me, for lack of a more

> > detailed

> > > explaination. Like in my body. It kind of also seems to feel

> > similar

> > > to when I eat alot of beans or lentils for an extended period of

> > > time, as in weeks. Which also have lots of sulfuf, don't they?

> > >

> > > -So what I'm asking is, is there anything to take that helps

> > remove

> > > possible sulfur overload? Anything to do? Also, is there a best

> > way

> > > to take whey? My mom mentioned when I told her about the

> plateau,

> > > maybe take it on and off. She was kind of joking, and it was

> > pretty

> > > funny, but maybe there's something there. Every other day? Two

> on,

> > > one off? One on, two off? Is there anything to consider from the

> > > methylation standpoint? A week on, a week off? Week on, couple

> > days

> > > off? Do I really gotta do all this myself?

> > >

> > > Thanks for any help.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Anyone familiar w/ anything about high cysteine levels as well? That

sounds like a possible explaination, too, since whey is a protein,

and cysteine a component of protein. No need to focus on individual

semantics or specifics and disregard the objective, which is to

figure out how to make the whey kick in again! All comers welcome!

Any thoughts on the methylation aspects of it, before any buildup?

As in what's needed for the methylation cycle to begin, balanced w/

any possible time needed to remove buildup, like several days on

followed by several off, one on one off, etc?

Any cysteine experts around? Thanks!

> > > > Hey,

> > > >

> > > > I have a few questions. I'm not too good with coherently

going

> > > from

> > > > one topic to the next, so I'll just bullet point this.

> > > >

> > > > -I take whey protein, and had good results for a while. Then

> > > started

> > > > to plateau, then downslide, kind of. I read that this

happens

> > > often.

> > > > I also read in Amy Yasko's protocol or whatever that she

> > mentioned

> > > > something along the lines of " when there is a break in the

> > > > methylation chain(sp?), a common impulse is to boost

> > glutathione.

> > > > Doing so, however, somehow results in an increase in sulfur,

a

> > > > byproduct of some aspect of the methylation cycle, and so

on... "

> > I

> > > > can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something

like

> > > that,

> > > > except more detailed. Does anyone else remember anything

about

> > > that?

> > > >

> > > > -When I take whey, after a couple weeks or months, I feel

kind

> > of

> > > > like something is building up inside me, for lack of a more

> > > detailed

> > > > explaination. Like in my body. It kind of also seems to feel

> > > similar

> > > > to when I eat alot of beans or lentils for an extended

period of

> > > > time, as in weeks. Which also have lots of sulfuf, don't

they?

> > > >

> > > > -So what I'm asking is, is there anything to take that helps

> > > remove

> > > > possible sulfur overload? Anything to do? Also, is there a

best

> > > way

> > > > to take whey? My mom mentioned when I told her about the

> > plateau,

> > > > maybe take it on and off. She was kind of joking, and it was

> > > pretty

> > > > funny, but maybe there's something there. Every other day?

Two

> > on,

> > > > one off? One on, two off? Is there anything to consider from

the

> > > > methylation standpoint? A week on, a week off? Week on,

couple

> > > days

> > > > off? Do I really gotta do all this myself?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for any help.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi, j.

As Trina said, the first step would be to stop taking the whey

protein. Without testing or some more observational data from you,

I don't think we can say whether the issue in your case is buildup

of ammonia or of sulfur compounds, such as sulfites and hydrogen

sulfide, or whether your cysteine level went too high. I understand

the problem of the high cost of testing. Can you supply answers to

these questions?

1. When you've O.D.'ed on whey protein, does your breath or

perspiration have an ammonia smell? Do you have a trance-like

state, or a state of torpor? Does your whole body just seem to shut

down? These would be characteristics of ammonia toxicity.

2. When you've O.D.'ed on whey protein, do you get dull headaches?

Do you get neurological symptoms? So you have foul-smelling upper

or lower gas in your G.I. tract? These would be characteristics of

sulfite and hydrogen sulfide toxicity.

3. Cysteine is also a neurotoxin, and I'm not sure how to

distinguish cysteine toxicity from sulfite toxicity on the basis of

symptoms. Sara had what I suspect was cysteine toxicity a while

back, but she wasn't tested, so we don't know for sure.

I think you asked in another message what to do about the

methylation cycle. Without knowing what your particular genetic

variations are, that's pretty much a trial and error activity. We

initially tried that approach here, but it didn't work out very

well, and that's when I became more interested in the approach that

we aren't supposed to discuss on this list, but that we can say more

about on the list I mentioned.

Rich

>

> No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk about one

> person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought that it might

> be more common knowledge, and not proprietary information. So what

> would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc? I'm not

> able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to money and I

> don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of dollars of

tests

> and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the tests came

> back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could continue to be

> discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just because a

> person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed is general

> knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it shouldn't

be

> a problem. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

There is a list called

Whey-CFS-FMS

It is a light traffic list, with 5 years of archives. Sadly, purged a

1,000 message archives:( .

They have not talked about Sulphur per se but many aspects of CFS and

Whey...benefits and acute sensitivities.

It might interest you, and those considering Whey who are very ill or very

sensitive.

Off the top, it sounds like you are just taking too much for your system, which

was true for me at first. I stopped it for a day or two and began again. I kept

it *extremely* low and slow ramping up. Did not want any herx crisis. This

worked for me and has, for others.

Some remain on very minute doses, but still get benefits.

I have not spent much time on that list, but maybe it could be helpful.

Katrina

>

> Hey,

>

> I have a few questions. I'm not too good with coherently going from

> one topic to the next, so I'll just bullet point this.

>

> -I take whey protein, and had good results for a while. Then started

> to plateau, then downslide, kind of. I read that this happens often.

> I also read in Amy Yasko's protocol or whatever that she mentioned

> something along the lines of " when there is a break in the

> methylation chain(sp?), a common impulse is to boost glutathione.

> Doing so, however, somehow results in an increase in sulfur, a

> byproduct of some aspect of the methylation cycle, and so on... " I

> can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like that,

> except more detailed. Does anyone else remember anything about that?

>

> -When I take whey, after a couple weeks or months, I feel kind of

> like something is building up inside me, for lack of a more detailed

> explaination. Like in my body. It kind of also seems to feel similar

> to when I eat alot of beans or lentils for an extended period of

> time, as in weeks. Which also have lots of sulfuf, don't they?

>

> -So what I'm asking is, is there anything to take that helps remove

> possible sulfur overload? Anything to do? Also, is there a best way

> to take whey? My mom mentioned when I told her about the plateau,

> maybe take it on and off. She was kind of joking, and it was pretty

> funny, but maybe there's something there. Every other day? Two on,

> one off? One on, two off? Is there anything to consider from the

> methylation standpoint? A week on, a week off? Week on, couple days

> off? Do I really gotta do all this myself?

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

[Guest guest]

Trina

THe answer is below. Whey is a protein, too much protein raises ammonia in

some. Taking activated charcoal and yucca along with eating less protein

(including dairy based proteins like whey) should help reduce ammonia.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

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Posted by: " Katrina Tangen " _tvpro36@... _

(mailto:tvpro36@...?Subject=

Re:%20Sulfur%20buildup/best%20way%20to%20take%20whey?) _tvpro36 _

(tvpro36)

Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:06 pm (PST)

OK, let me rephrase. Dr. Amy's work on ammonia is the only thing on the

subject I am familiar with. Could you direct me to the other theories on high

ammonia caused by whey?

Thanks!

Trina

kattemayo <_kattemayo@..._ (mailto:kattemayo@...) > wrote:

Hi Trina,

>>>Dr. Amy is the only one who

talks about high ammonia.<<<<

Not sure if I'm reading that right, but high Ammonia, multiple causes,and

treatment is talked about by many.

BW

Katrina

>

> Well, I'm not sure exactly how to do that, because Dr. Amy is the only one

who talks about high ammonia. So if you are interested in the science behind

it, you have to read her stuff. But if you are not, then the short answer is

to stop taking the whey because it sounds like it is hurting you (even

though it is helping you at first). Inexpensive ways to bring down ammonia

overall

are activated charcoal, yucca, and lowering protein in your diet.

[Guest guest]

What did you end up doing about it, if I may ask?

Thanks.

> >

> > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk about one

> > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought that it

might

> > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary information. So

what

> > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc? I'm not

> > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to money and

I

> > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of dollars of

> tests

> > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the tests

came

> > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could continue to be

> > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just because a

> > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed is

general

> > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it shouldn't

> be

> > a problem. Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

The same thing has happened to me when taking ImmunoPro (the

sulfur-smelling gas) - can you do anything to counteract the sulfite

and hydrogen sulfide toxicity?

Thanks,

Chris

> >

> > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk about one

> > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought that it might

> > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary information. So what

> > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc? I'm not

> > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to money and I

> > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of dollars of

> tests

> > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the tests came

> > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could continue to be

> > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just because a

> > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed is general

> > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it shouldn't

> be

> > a problem. Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

epsom salt baths

> > >

> > > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk about one

> > > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought that it

might

> > > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary information. So

what

> > > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc? I'm

not

> > > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to money

and I

> > > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of dollars of

> > tests

> > > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the tests

came

> > > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could continue to be

> > > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just because a

> > > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed is

general

> > > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it

shouldn't

> > be

> > > a problem. Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Alright, thank you! Hopefully it will allow the ImmunoPro to work

effectively again, as I was feeling better when I was on it.

Chris

> > > >

> > > > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk about one

> > > > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought that it

> might

> > > > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary information. So

> what

> > > > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc? I'm

> not

> > > > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to money

> and I

> > > > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of dollars of

> > > tests

> > > > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the tests

> came

> > > > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could continue to be

> > > > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just because a

> > > > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed is

> general

> > > > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it

> shouldn't

> > > be

> > > > a problem. Thanks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

A followup question:

Should I stop taking the whey, try the epsom salt baths and charcoal

for a couple weeks or months, and then retry the whey? Or can I use

both simultaneously?

chris

> > > > >

> > > > > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk about one

> > > > > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought that it

> > might

> > > > > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary information. So

> > what

> > > > > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc? I'm

> > not

> > > > > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to money

> > and I

> > > > > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of dollars of

> > > > tests

> > > > > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the tests

> > came

> > > > > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could continue to be

> > > > > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just because a

> > > > > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed is

> > general

> > > > > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it

> > shouldn't

> > > > be

> > > > > a problem. Thanks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I'm trying to alternate days, off and on. I've only started this a

week ago, I'm thinking I'll continue a month, and if that doesn't

cut it, then I'll go to one on, two off, etc.

One question. Activated charcoal? Internally? Is that not

carcinogenic? They say the black stuff on grilled meats is highly

carcinogenic, how would charcoal be any different?

Also, how do epsom salts baths work? What is their mode of operation

in depleting sulfur?

Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk

about one

> > > > > > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought

that it

> > > might

> > > > > > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary

information. So

> > > what

> > > > > > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur etc?

I'm

> > > not

> > > > > > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to

money

> > > and I

> > > > > > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of

dollars of

> > > > > tests

> > > > > > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the

tests

> > > came

> > > > > > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could

continue to be

> > > > > > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just

because a

> > > > > > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's discussed

is

> > > general

> > > > > > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it

> > > shouldn't

> > > > > be

> > > > > > a problem. Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi, j.

Oral activated charcoal is not carcinogenic. I suspect that you are

remembering the chimney sweep--scrotum cancer experience from

England in the 1700s. That was a different situation. The cancer

cases were indeed due to soot (combined with poor hygiene), but it

was the coal tar in the soot that was responsible, not charcoal.

Specifically, it was the polyaromatic hydrocarbons, such as benzo(a)

pyrene. These result from incomplete combustion of organic material,

such as coal. Activated charcoal is made by high-temperature

processing, so that the combustion is complete, and the product is

nearly pure carbon.

Epsom salts supply sulfate, which many people are deficient in.

They do not deplete sulfur.

Rich

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically talk

> about one

> > > > > > > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought

> that it

> > > > might

> > > > > > > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary

> information. So

> > > > what

> > > > > > > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur

etc?

> I'm

> > > > not

> > > > > > > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due to

> money

> > > > and I

> > > > > > > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of

> dollars of

> > > > > > tests

> > > > > > > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if the

> tests

> > > > came

> > > > > > > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could

> continue to be

> > > > > > > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just

> because a

> > > > > > > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's

discussed

> is

> > > > general

> > > > > > > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc. it

> > > > shouldn't

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > a problem. Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply. So in the context of the raised

sulfur/ammonia/creatine theory in regards to taking whey, would

raising sulfate be good, bad, or neutral?

http://www.newtreatments.org/fromweb/sulfur.html - Here is a link

posted in regarding this. I can't really make heads or tails of it.

Too much info combined with too little background knowledge, plus

brainfog. Thanks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically

talk

> > about one

> > > > > > > > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought

> > that it

> > > > > might

> > > > > > > > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary

> > information. So

> > > > > what

> > > > > > > > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur

> etc?

> > I'm

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due

to

> > money

> > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of

> > dollars of

> > > > > > > tests

> > > > > > > > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if

the

> > tests

> > > > > came

> > > > > > > > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could

> > continue to be

> > > > > > > > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just

> > because a

> > > > > > > > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's

> discussed

> > is

> > > > > general

> > > > > > > > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc.

it

> > > > > shouldn't

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > a problem. Thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

j mascis,

On the A.A. message board, Yasko says to limit mag. sulfate cream and

epsom salt baths, because that will be a problem for people with

certain genetic SNPs. So I guess to be safe you shouldn't take too

much sulfate products, maybe once a week or so.

chris

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > No offense, but I wasn't wanting to specifically

> talk

> > > about one

> > > > > > > > > person's 'programme', a la " Dr. " Amy. I just thought

> > > that it

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > be more common knowledge, and not proprietary

> > > information. So

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > would be the course of action if it was high sulfur

> > etc?

> > > I'm

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > able to do any tests that my Dr. can't perform, due

> to

> > > money

> > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > don't trust all this 'buy my program+thousand's of

> > > dollars of

> > > > > > > > tests

> > > > > > > > > and supplements' stuff. It's what would be done if

> the

> > > tests

> > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > back posi that I'm interested in. So if it could

> > > continue to be

> > > > > > > > > discussed here, it would be much appreciated. Just

> > > because a

> > > > > > > > > person's name is mentioned, as long as what's

> > discussed

> > > is

> > > > > > general

> > > > > > > > > knowledge, a la what to do about high ammonia, etc.

> it

> > > > > > shouldn't

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > a problem. Thanks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >