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My favorite headstone in an old graveyard I read in a book once was " I told you

I was sick! "

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote: Colin Green

wrote:

> I am not bed ridden, nor can most people even notice anything,

which has mostly impeded any understanding and support from close

associates and loved ones, who say " you seem fine to me " , and

that's that.

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Infuriating, isn't it?

Not sick enough to prove that you are deserving of help?

The amazing thing about CFS is that you can die and people will

still write on your tombstone: " Died of a Bad Attitude " .

There is simply no end to how sick one can be and still have the

illness dismissed as an imaginary mental condition.

But you may be in luck. It all depends on how you answer this

question.

Do your symptoms get worse when the weather changes?

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Hi Rich

I remember reading that estrogen contributes to HPA axis overactivation.Do

not remember the actual article i read but i found below article by quick

search

http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v25/n6/full/1395744a.html

bw

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Re: Men, Women and CFS

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> Hi Rich,

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> I to fit the picture. I was in my prime reproductive years and went

> through a period of

> unbearable stress, enough to take a few down with me. Keep going with

> this. I think you

> are extraordinary, Rich.

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> Peeking out of Lurkdom,

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>> Hi, all.

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>> Well, I was in the medical library most of the day, today, doing a

>> lot of reading and thinking. I think a few more pieces of the

>> puzzle have come together, and I would like to tell you about it.

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>> By way of introduction, there have been several things rattling

>> around in my head lately:

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>> First, long-time readers will know that historically on the lists I

>> have been beaten up fairly soundly at times for suggesting that

>> emotional stress could be a contributor to the onset of CFS in some

>> cases. I think that for the most part it has been men on the lists

>> who have done most of the beating. On the other hand, I have been

>> told by quite a few others (I think mostly women) that emotional

>> stress was a major contributor to the onset of their illness. It

>> was tempting to suspect that the men were just being macho, but what

>> about taking the revolutionary point of view that (a) they know what

>> they're talking about, and (B) they just might happen to be telling

>> the truth? Could it be that things are different for men and women?

>>

>> Second, I've been trying to figure out if I have a strong enough

>> case to send an abstract to the IACFS hypothesizing that I can

>> explain the reason for the much higher prevalence of CFS in women

>> than in men.

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How much exertion does it take to crash you for 24 hours?

On 9/6/06, Colin Green <colin@...> wrote:

> Not sure I can help you.

>

> I should point out that, while I identify with my own experience of

> being fatigued, and not getting refreshed by sleeping, and ocaisional

> post-exertion fatigue, which is of the " get back into bed for 24 hours "

> severity, apart from this I can function, have held down my job in the

> meantime, as long as I have consistent access to double espressos, which

> I need every few hours to keep going at work.

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Can't really say. It only happens sometimes. I have not been able to

find pattern.

The most recent time was after an 11 mile hike at altitude (8000 ft),

(taking 4-5 hours). I had just started the guai protocol, so this may

be partly causative, if you believe in Dr. St. Amand (which I really do

not)... Other times it has come one after only 20 minutes of swimming.

I have done may other workouts without crashing, and even found that a

workout can make me feel a bit better.

bob niederman wrote:

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> How much exertion does it take to crash you for 24 hours?

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> On 9/6/06, Colin Green <colin@...

> <mailto:colin%40thefront.com>> wrote:

> > Not sure I can help you.

> >

> > I should point out that, while I identify with my own experience of

> > being fatigued, and not getting refreshed by sleeping, and ocaisional

> > post-exertion fatigue, which is of the " get back into bed for 24 hours "

> > severity, apart from this I can function, have held down my job in the

> > meantime, as long as I have consistent access to double espressos, which

> > I need every few hours to keep going at work.

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