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On my organic acid profile my kynurenic acid was 4.91, the reference

range is 0 to 2.0, so it is high. Have been taking 1000 to 1500 mgs

of tryptophan at night to sleep, does seem to help some. Having bad

problems with depression, so must not be making much serotonin.

Anyone can tell me more about this situation?

thanks,

Helen

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Well, Helen,

I don't know about the biochem, but I sure know about depression! Major, major

symptom for me, if untreated.

If you resond to the trypto at night, maybe St 's wort will work for you,

too.

I used, for close to 2 decades , to use d,l-phenylalanine and it worked, but

very crudely, with side effects. I am finally off it, thanks to a complex of

stuff from neuroscience inc. called Excitacor. It includes tyrosine. In the

afternoons, if I am drooping, I also have a cup of green tea.

I find that a large dose of anyof these things creates side effects, but using

multiple treatments does not.

Adrienne

Re: Amy Yasko - MTHFR and CBS deplete B12 ? Rich,

anyone?

On my organic acid profile my kynurenic acid was 4.91, the reference

range is 0 to 2.0, so it is high. Have been taking 1000 to 1500 mgs

of tryptophan at night to sleep, does seem to help some. Having bad

problems with depression, so must not be making much serotonin.

Anyone can tell me more about this situation?

thanks,

Helen

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Adrienne:

Thanks. You posted recently that your neurotransmitter precursors

were low, as mine are, that leads to depression.

I am taking small to moderate amounts of several things for

depression, SAMe, tryptophan, TMG, tryosine, D form of phenylanine,

inositol, Chinese herbs with St. s Wort, Neurontin, and running

an Alpha Stim on my ear lobes.

Helen

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Good Lord!

I wasn't able to take both the DLPA and SAMe at the same time. Felt just like

prozac. Which was nightmarish even at miniscule doses.

I understand the St. J's wort also boosts serotinin.

Adrienne

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Adrienne:

Thanks. You posted recently that your neurotransmitter precursors

were low, as mine are, that leads to depression.

I am taking small to moderate amounts of several things for

depression, SAMe, tryptophan, TMG, tryosine, D form of phenylanine,

inositol, Chinese herbs with St. s Wort, Neurontin, and running

an Alpha Stim on my ear lobes.

Helen

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Yeah, Prozac really sucks. The D form of phenanyline is not

excitatory, I didn't dare touch the DLPA. Only take the revvers first

thing in the morning.

Helen

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Helen,

I am experiencing rather rapid weight gain since I quit the DLPA. I can feel my

appetite has grown. This is most distressing, since I am quite obese. Do you

happen to know whether the D form is the one that suppresses appetite? I hate to

go back on it.

I can't just take the revvers in the morning; need some boost after lunch, too.

DLPA was the first supplement I ever took. I considered, because of the

circumstances, that I was divinely guided to it.

What does the D form do for you-for depression only?

Adrienne

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Yeah, Prozac really sucks. The D form of phenanyline is not

excitatory, I didn't dare touch the DLPA. Only take the revvers first

thing in the morning.

Helen

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Do you have the genetic bypass book ? If so, it discusses high

kynurenic acid in the microbes section. If not, you could search for it

on autismanswer.com. As jill1313 said, it can be caused by chronic

infection. Dr. Amy discusses it wrt chronic strep infection and says

that strep is one of the causative factors of autism.

Re: Amy Yasko - MTHFR and CBS deplete B12 ?

Rich, anyone?

On my organic acid profile my kynurenic acid was 4.91, the reference

range is 0 to 2.0, so it is high. Have been taking 1000 to 1500 mgs

of tryptophan at night to sleep, does seem to help some. Having bad

problems with depression, so must not be making much serotonin.

Anyone can tell me more about this situation?

thanks,

Helen

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Adrienne:

I read about DPA in the Mood Cure book by Ross. There is a

website with some information where you can also order it at

moodcure.com. Not sure if it does anything on appetite but it's good

for pain and depression.

You wanna lose some weight, go on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet.

I've lost 20 lbs in a few months, after going on it gradually, no

exercise, back to my usual extremely scrawny self. Had gained that

twenty pounds munching nervously during the end of my long klonopin

withdrawal two years ago.

Many people report having more energy on this diet, and it should

help my depression and leaky gut as well. I read about it first in

the Autism book by Pangborn and Baker that Rich recommends, then got

Breaking the Vicious Cycle by Elaine Gottschall and Gut and

Psychology Syndrome by Natasha -McBride. There is also

information at pecanbread.com.

Helen

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