Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 That's beef stroganoff mjh " The Basil Book " _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/) oh, nuts, I can't think of the name of the dish -- the stuff with sliced beef and sour cream over egg noodles, but even that's been several years, and even in that, I steered clear of the pieces of beef.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi Edy, A couple of decades ago, I discovered that I did better when I did not eat beef. Beef, period -- it didn't seem to apply to pork or poultry, nor fish. I have no idea how this could be, but it is -- at least in my case. After I stopped eating beef, a lot of the digestion problems I had at that time also resolved. I think " digestion problems " is another way to say you can't " process " something. And if you can't process something, it seems to me that's an allergy, at least on some level. The problem first presented with hamburgers that my mother made. Wonderful little conglomerations of ground beef and seasoning including raw onion. Now, it turns out that the raw onion also bothered me, but when I threw out **all beef** especially, I also felt better and had fewer IBS symptoms. Fewer IBS symptoms tells me fewer problems with processing and that tells me less " allergic reaction. " Does that make any sense? Can you start looking at the types of meat that you're eating (and maybe the method of preparation)? in Champaign IL [...]I haven't thought about meat because everything I've read says no one is allergic to it, but who knows? [...] Edy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Are you able to eat cow meat? Nil Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines > Hi Edy, > > A couple of decades ago, I discovered that I did better when I did not > eat beef. Beef, period -- it didn't seem to apply to pork or poultry, > nor fish. I have no idea how this could be, but it is -- at least in > my case. After I stopped eating beef, a lot of the digestion problems > I had at that time also resolved. I think " digestion problems " is > another way to say you can't " process " something. And if you can't > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi , I haven't eaten any beef in 20 or more years and haven't eaten anything but organic chicken and turkey for about 15 years. I was vegetarian for a while , but found I did better with some animal protein. I, too, can't eat raw onions, but cooked are O.K. Makes perfect sense to me as when I see someone put a big slab of raw onion on a sandwich my stomach turns. I've begun a very simplified diet today, I appreciate your suggestions. Thanks, Edy netsukeme <kcapel@...> wrote: Hi Edy, A couple of decades ago, I discovered that I did better when I did not eat beef. Beef, period -- it didn't seem to apply to pork or poultry, nor fish. I have no idea how this could be, but it is -- at least in my case. After I stopped eating beef, a lot of the digestion problems I had at that time also resolved. I think " digestion problems " is another way to say you can't " process " something. And if you can't process something, it seems to me that's an allergy, at least on some level. The problem first presented with hamburgers that my mother made. Wonderful little conglomerations of ground beef and seasoning including raw onion. Now, it turns out that the raw onion also bothered me, but when I threw out **all beef** especially, I also felt better and had fewer IBS symptoms. Fewer IBS symptoms tells me fewer problems with processing and that tells me less " allergic reaction. " Does that make any sense? Can you start looking at the types of meat that you're eating (and maybe the method of preparation)? in Champaign IL [...]I haven't thought about meat because everything I've read says no one is allergic to it, but who knows? [...] Edy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi Nil, When I stopped eating beef (cows), it was slightly before the bovine spongiform scare in UK, then here in North America. I am indeed " able to eat beef from cows, " but it doesn't do well in me, so I still avoid it. (I have had small bits in -- oh, nuts, I can't think of the name of the dish -- the stuff with sliced beef and sour cream over egg noodles, but even that's been several years, and even in that, I steered clear of the pieces of beef.) I am able to. It doesn't flat-out kill me instantly, but I stay away from it, Nil. > > > Are you able to eat cow meat? > Nil > Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was > histamines > > > > Hi Edy, > > > > A couple of decades ago, I discovered that I did better when I did not > > eat beef. Beef, period -- it didn't seem to apply to pork or poultry, > > nor fish. I have no idea how this could be, but it is -- at least in > > my case. After I stopped eating beef, a lot of the digestion problems > > I had at that time also resolved. I think " digestion problems " is > > another way to say you can't " process " something. And if you can't > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi Edy. I haven't been able to " go organic " with meat because of the cost. But I do steer clear completely now of additives in all other food. I've gone very basic too, and found it does nothing but help. I was alarmed the other day, in line in a grocery store. In front of me was a young woman with several toddlers in tow. Her grocery cart was full to the top, overflowing with " food " in packaging. Boxes of this and that, cartons of more stuff. It was all packaging. I was stunned to realize that I was staring at, largely, food additives and cardboard and very little real " food. " And she was tossing this stuff into her little kids? Wow. I wouldn't want to place a bet on their gastronomical futures...and that ain't the stock market. I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw up. Haven't had the stuff since. Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. > > Hi , > > I haven't eaten any beef in 20 or more years and haven't eaten anything but organic chicken and turkey for about 15 years. I was vegetarian for a while , but found I did better with some animal protein. I, too, can't eat raw onions, but cooked are O.K. Makes perfect sense to me as when I see someone put a big slab of raw onion on a sandwich my stomach turns. I've begun a very simplified diet today, I appreciate your suggestions. Thanks, > > Edy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Sauteed! Yummy. I did the same thing with coleslaw. My mother made me eat it and I promptly threw it up. You can find the same thing in a " Health Food " store as well. So many packages. I don't shop because I'm unable to get out, but my shopper buys from the produce section, meat, and refridge, some canned beans to throw in a soup. Also because of digestion issues over the years I have a philosophy of " when in doubt, throw it out. " Edy netsukeme <kcapel@...> wrote: Hi Edy. I haven't been able to " go organic " with meat because of the cost. But I do steer clear completely now of additives in all other food. I've gone very basic too, and found it does nothing but help. I was alarmed the other day, in line in a grocery store. In front of me was a young woman with several toddlers in tow. Her grocery cart was full to the top, overflowing with " food " in packaging. Boxes of this and that, cartons of more stuff. It was all packaging. I was stunned to realize that I was staring at, largely, food additives and cardboard and very little real " food. " And she was tossing this stuff into her little kids? Wow. I wouldn't want to place a bet on their gastronomical futures...and that ain't the stock market. I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw up. Haven't had the stuff since. Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. > > Hi , > > I haven't eaten any beef in 20 or more years and haven't eaten anything but organic chicken and turkey for about 15 years. I was vegetarian for a while , but found I did better with some animal protein. I, too, can't eat raw onions, but cooked are O.K. Makes perfect sense to me as when I see someone put a big slab of raw onion on a sandwich my stomach turns. I've begun a very simplified diet today, I appreciate your suggestions. Thanks, > > Edy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Edy Rayfield wrote: > I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what > my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother > decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw > up. Haven't had the stuff since. > > Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. In doing the Yasko work, I'm probably most excited about figuring out where I am in relation to sulfer-rich foods. I NEED beef. I don't know if it's the carnitine, or some of the enzymes in it, or what -- but there is stuff in beef that my body craves, and absolutely needs to run right. Lately, I've been trying to eat at least 6-8 oz a day, and I do feel better. We've got a wonderful organic-only beef wholesaler in the neighborhood, and a freezer in the garage, so we can buy it 20 - 30 pounds at a time in restaurant packs to save money. It's still not cheap, but at this point, I consider it medicinal. Pork is only somewhat as good. Fowl, in general, I can take or leave, and will usually leave (especially if it's turkey). Fresh salmon is so ubiquitous (and fabulous) locally that the natives here used to use it as currency -- but it's so rich that I can only handle it once or twice a week. In general, I worry about the mercury in fish -- less of a problem in salmon than most species, but still... As for veggies: I've had violent reactions to cruciferous veggies since I was a small child. Like Edy, I will simply toss asparagus. Artichokes, broccoli, cauliflour, and (ugh) brussels sprouts are similarly wasted on me: just the smell of them cooking makes me want to hurl. (I've been known to have this reaction to eggs as well -- I'm not a big egg-eater.) There's something pungent and ugly about these foods that just makes my body rebel. I can do cabbage in small quantities, but even that's less true as I age. Except for sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut. And kimchee. The cooking and fermenting seems to help. All of the above items, including the eggs, are high in sulfur, which suggests some kind of digestion problem with these foods. However, oddly: I'm totally fine with alliums -- onion, garlic, fennel, leek. Raw or cooked, they just make me happy all over, and so account for a high percentage of my total veggie intake. Yet they're high in sulfur, too. I have no clue what the difference might be. I'm really interested in seeing if there's a connection between these lifelong preferences, my ability to metabolize these foods, and my methlyation issues. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 HI Sara, I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. I have never had a reaction to eggs, protein or the high sulfur veggis. I would of never guessed that I would come back with a +/'+ on my CBS enzyeme and also my SUOX is +/-, which also makes suflur more dangerous to me. I would of never known without the genetic test. Janet Mercuria <mercuria@...> wrote: On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Edy Rayfield wrote: > I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what > my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother > decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw > up. Haven't had the stuff since. > > Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. In doing the Yasko work, I'm probably most excited about figuring out where I am in relation to sulfer-rich foods. I NEED beef. I don't know if it's the carnitine, or some of the enzymes in it, or what -- but there is stuff in beef that my body craves, and absolutely needs to run right. Lately, I've been trying to eat at least 6-8 oz a day, and I do feel better. We've got a wonderful organic-only beef wholesaler in the neighborhood, and a freezer in the garage, so we can buy it 20 - 30 pounds at a time in restaurant packs to save money. It's still not cheap, but at this point, I consider it medicinal. Pork is only somewhat as good. Fowl, in general, I can take or leave, and will usually leave (especially if it's turkey). Fresh salmon is so ubiquitous (and fabulous) locally that the natives here used to use it as currency -- but it's so rich that I can only handle it once or twice a week. In general, I worry about the mercury in fish -- less of a problem in salmon than most species, but still... As for veggies: I've had violent reactions to cruciferous veggies since I was a small child. Like Edy, I will simply toss asparagus. Artichokes, broccoli, cauliflour, and (ugh) brussels sprouts are similarly wasted on me: just the smell of them cooking makes me want to hurl. (I've been known to have this reaction to eggs as well -- I'm not a big egg-eater.) There's something pungent and ugly about these foods that just makes my body rebel. I can do cabbage in small quantities, but even that's less true as I age. Except for sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut. And kimchee. The cooking and fermenting seems to help. All of the above items, including the eggs, are high in sulfur, which suggests some kind of digestion problem with these foods. However, oddly: I'm totally fine with alliums -- onion, garlic, fennel, leek. Raw or cooked, they just make me happy all over, and so account for a high percentage of my total veggie intake. Yet they're high in sulfur, too. I have no clue what the difference might be. I'm really interested in seeing if there's a connection between these lifelong preferences, my ability to metabolize these foods, and my methlyation issues. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi Janet and all Than can we conclude that one who can not tolerate beef might have glutamate toxiicity? Thanks. Nil Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines > HI Sara, > > I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand > so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 HI Nil, ONe of the first things that Yasko addresses in her step one protocall is the Gaba and Glutamate imbalances. She gets that in order before proceeding to the methylation cycle. You might want to check out her information on that. Janet yildiz <yildiz22@...> wrote: Hi Janet and all Than can we conclude that one who can not tolerate beef might have glutamate toxiicity? Thanks. Nil Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines > HI Sara, > > I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand > so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 My favorite meat is deer, but i haven't seen any in years. when my husband was alive....But I just realized my caregiver is close buds with the game warden and here comes hunting season. What I really want is heart meat. We shall see. Meanwhile I make do with buffalo, from the store. And a little goat meat for a change, from the Mexican " carneceria. " That, and chicken and a little wild salmon. And sardines. I can get buffalo heart mail order, but the postage is SO high. Adrienne Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines Hi Edy. I haven't been able to " go organic " with meat because of the cost. But I do steer clear completely now of additives in all other food. I've gone very basic too, and found it does nothing but help. I was alarmed the other day, in line in a grocery store. In front of me was a young woman with several toddlers in tow. Her grocery cart was full to the top, overflowing with " food " in packaging. Boxes of this and that, cartons of more stuff. It was all packaging. I was stunned to realize that I was staring at, largely, food additives and cardboard and very little real " food. " And she was tossing this stuff into her little kids? Wow. I wouldn't want to place a bet on their gastronomical futures...and that ain't the stock market. I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw up. Haven't had the stuff since. Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. > > Hi , > > I haven't eaten any beef in 20 or more years and haven't eaten anything but organic chicken and turkey for about 15 years. I was vegetarian for a while , but found I did better with some animal protein. I, too, can't eat raw onions, but cooked are O.K. Makes perfect sense to me as when I see someone put a big slab of raw onion on a sandwich my stomach turns. I've begun a very simplified diet today, I appreciate your suggestions. Thanks, > > Edy This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 I feel the same about red meat, but organic buffalo satisfies that need and is way less fatty. You can even find some tha are entirely grass-fed, but ieven if they finish 'em on grain, they still don't go to fat like a steer does. Adrienne Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Edy Rayfield wrote: > I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what > my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother > decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw > up. Haven't had the stuff since. > > Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. In doing the Yasko work, I'm probably most excited about figuring out where I am in relation to sulfer-rich foods. I NEED beef. I don't know if it's the carnitine, or some of the enzymes in it, or what -- but there is stuff in beef that my body craves, and absolutely needs to run right. Lately, I've been trying to eat at least 6-8 oz a day, and I do feel better. We've got a wonderful organic-only beef wholesaler in the neighborhood, and a freezer in the garage, so we can buy it 20 - 30 pounds at a time in restaurant packs to save money. It's still not cheap, but at this point, I consider it medicinal. Pork is only somewhat as good. Fowl, in general, I can take or leave, and will usually leave (especially if it's turkey). Fresh salmon is so ubiquitous (and fabulous) locally that the natives here used to use it as currency -- but it's so rich that I can only handle it once or twice a week. In general, I worry about the mercury in fish -- less of a problem in salmon than most species, but still... As for veggies: I've had violent reactions to cruciferous veggies since I was a small child. Like Edy, I will simply toss asparagus. Artichokes, broccoli, cauliflour, and (ugh) brussels sprouts are similarly wasted on me: just the smell of them cooking makes me want to hurl. (I've been known to have this reaction to eggs as well -- I'm not a big egg-eater.) There's something pungent and ugly about these foods that just makes my body rebel. I can do cabbage in small quantities, but even that's less true as I age. Except for sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut. And kimchee. The cooking and fermenting seems to help. All of the above items, including the eggs, are high in sulfur, which suggests some kind of digestion problem with these foods. However, oddly: I'm totally fine with alliums -- onion, garlic, fennel, leek. Raw or cooked, they just make me happy all over, and so account for a high percentage of my total veggie intake. Yet they're high in sulfur, too. I have no clue what the difference might be. I'm really interested in seeing if there's a connection between these lifelong preferences, my ability to metabolize these foods, and my methlyation issues. Sara This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Janet, please refresh my memory; Even though no obvious symtoms of sulfur problems, you have stopped ingesting those kinds of foods and are clearly experienceing improvement based on that change? (How long ago did you eliminate them?) Thanks, Adrienne ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet s HI Sara, I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. I have never had a reaction to eggs, protein or the high sulfur veggis. I would of never guessed that I would come back with a +/'+ on my CBS enzyeme and also my SUOX is +/-, which also makes suflur more dangerous to me. I would of never known without the genetic test. Janet Mercuria <mercuria@...> wrote: On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Edy Rayfield wrote: > I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what > my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother > decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw > up. Haven't had the stuff since. > > Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. In doing the Yasko work, I'm probably most excited about figuring out where I am in relation to sulfer-rich foods. I NEED beef. I don't know if it's the carnitine, or some of the enzymes in it, or what -- but there is stuff in beef that my body craves, and absolutely needs to run right. Lately, I've been trying to eat at least 6-8 oz a day, and I do feel better. We've got a wonderful organic-only beef wholesaler in the neighborhood, and a freezer in the garage, so we can buy it 20 - 30 pounds at a time in restaurant packs to save money. It's still not cheap, but at this point, I consider it medicinal. Pork is only somewhat as good. Fowl, in general, I can take or leave, and will usually leave (especially if it's turkey). Fresh salmon is so ubiquitous (and fabulous) locally that the natives here used to use it as currency -- but it's so rich that I can only handle it once or twice a week. In general, I worry about the mercury in fish -- less of a problem in salmon than most species, but still... As for veggies: I've had violent reactions to cruciferous veggies since I was a small child. Like Edy, I will simply toss asparagus. Artichokes, broccoli, cauliflour, and (ugh) brussels sprouts are similarly wasted on me: just the smell of them cooking makes me want to hurl. (I've been known to have this reaction to eggs as well -- I'm not a big egg-eater.) There's something pungent and ugly about these foods that just makes my body rebel. I can do cabbage in small quantities, but even that's less true as I age. Except for sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut. And kimchee. The cooking and fermenting seems to help. All of the above items, including the eggs, are high in sulfur, which suggests some kind of digestion problem with these foods. However, oddly: I'm totally fine with alliums -- onion, garlic, fennel, leek. Raw or cooked, they just make me happy all over, and so account for a high percentage of my total veggie intake. Yet they're high in sulfur, too. I have no clue what the difference might be. I'm really interested in seeing if there's a connection between these lifelong preferences, my ability to metabolize these foods, and my methlyation issues. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I have just started on the program. It takes awhile to get the ammonia down. 6 weeks or so using just a little protein and sulfur veggies. So I am in the beginning stages, to soon to tell. I will have to continue to be watchful of this the rest of my life. I do know from my genetics that sulfur/sulfites are a big no/no for me. Until I get the methylation going (after getting the ammonia down) I am going to have to be very careful with them. This protocall takes a few months, not a few days. The body is making major changes and I will need to monitor how I am doing as I go along to get the best results. Janet " Adrienne G. " <duckblossm@...> wrote: Janet, please refresh my memory; Even though no obvious symtoms of sulfur problems, you have stopped ingesting those kinds of foods and are clearly experienceing improvement based on that change? (How long ago did you eliminate them?) Thanks, Adrienne ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet s HI Sara, I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. I have never had a reaction to eggs, protein or the high sulfur veggis. I would of never guessed that I would come back with a +/'+ on my CBS enzyeme and also my SUOX is +/-, which also makes suflur more dangerous to me. I would of never known without the genetic test. Janet Mercuria <mercuria@...> wrote: On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Edy Rayfield wrote: > I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what > my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother > decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw > up. Haven't had the stuff since. > > Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. In doing the Yasko work, I'm probably most excited about figuring out where I am in relation to sulfer-rich foods. I NEED beef. I don't know if it's the carnitine, or some of the enzymes in it, or what -- but there is stuff in beef that my body craves, and absolutely needs to run right. Lately, I've been trying to eat at least 6-8 oz a day, and I do feel better. We've got a wonderful organic-only beef wholesaler in the neighborhood, and a freezer in the garage, so we can buy it 20 - 30 pounds at a time in restaurant packs to save money. It's still not cheap, but at this point, I consider it medicinal. Pork is only somewhat as good. Fowl, in general, I can take or leave, and will usually leave (especially if it's turkey). Fresh salmon is so ubiquitous (and fabulous) locally that the natives here used to use it as currency -- but it's so rich that I can only handle it once or twice a week. In general, I worry about the mercury in fish -- less of a problem in salmon than most species, but still... As for veggies: I've had violent reactions to cruciferous veggies since I was a small child. Like Edy, I will simply toss asparagus. Artichokes, broccoli, cauliflour, and (ugh) brussels sprouts are similarly wasted on me: just the smell of them cooking makes me want to hurl. (I've been known to have this reaction to eggs as well -- I'm not a big egg-eater.) There's something pungent and ugly about these foods that just makes my body rebel. I can do cabbage in small quantities, but even that's less true as I age. Except for sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut. And kimchee. The cooking and fermenting seems to help. All of the above items, including the eggs, are high in sulfur, which suggests some kind of digestion problem with these foods. However, oddly: I'm totally fine with alliums -- onion, garlic, fennel, leek. Raw or cooked, they just make me happy all over, and so account for a high percentage of my total veggie intake. Yet they're high in sulfur, too. I have no clue what the difference might be. I'm really interested in seeing if there's a connection between these lifelong preferences, my ability to metabolize these foods, and my methlyation issues. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Hi Janet, Is this info on autismanswer.com or is it only in the DVDs or one of her books ? Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines HI Nil, ONe of the first things that Yasko addresses in her step one protocall is the Gaba and Glutamate imbalances. She gets that in order before proceeding to the methylation cycle. You might want to check out her information on that. Janet yildiz <yildiz22gmail (DOT) <mailto:yildiz22%40gmail.com> com> wrote: Hi Janet and all Than can we conclude that one who can not tolerate beef might have glutamate toxiicity? Thanks. Nil Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines > HI Sara, > > I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand > so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Hi , All this stuff is at autism answer. Takes a little reading, but its all there. Check out the basics forum and then start to read the " locked " forums first after that. Janet Janet <maryellen1909@...> wrote: Hi Janet, Is this info on autismanswer.com or is it only in the DVDs or one of her books ? Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines HI Nil, ONe of the first things that Yasko addresses in her step one protocall is the Gaba and Glutamate imbalances. She gets that in order before proceeding to the methylation cycle. You might want to check out her information on that. Janet yildiz <yildiz22gmail (DOT) <mailto:yildiz22%40gmail.com> com> wrote: Hi Janet and all Than can we conclude that one who can not tolerate beef might have glutamate toxiicity? Thanks. Nil Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines > HI Sara, > > I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand > so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Thanks Janet. I will start that one today. I just finished the posts in the virus section today, learned a lot but I think I've burned myself out a bit. I'm not sure what you mean by locked forums. Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 HI , I take on her protocal one piece at a time. I find that if I do to much at one time, I get confused. So now I am working on Step one, the gut protocal and the ammonia protocall. (You will find alot of this in the Basic forum) If you notice on each forum, if you look up on the left side, you will see a lock or unlock. When its locked it means this is straight information for you. (No posting except from Dr. Amy or ) Do start with the Welcome forum, it will explain so much, then go to the basic forum, then the locked forums. When I am up to it, I read more depending on my brain power and energy level at the time. Janet <maryellen1909@...> wrote: Thanks Janet. I will start that one today. I just finished the posts in the virus section today, learned a lot but I think I've burned myself out a bit. I'm not sure what you mean by locked forums. Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Thanks, Janet. Will, at some point, this be the only thing you are modifying, so that you can identify an effect? I am pursuing this question because of my interest in whether a person-me- coud be really wrong about experiencing something as very helpful (meat) when it really isn't. Adrienne Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines I have just started on the program. It takes awhile to get the ammonia down. 6 weeks or so using just a little protein and sulfur veggies. So I am in the beginning stages, to soon to tell. I will have to continue to be watchful of this the rest of my life. I do know from my genetics that sulfur/sulfites are a big no/no for me. Until I get the methylation going (after getting the ammonia down) I am going to have to be very careful with them. This protocall takes a few months, not a few days. The body is making major changes and I will need to monitor how I am doing as I go along to get the best results. Janet " Adrienne G. " <duckblossm@...> wrote: Janet, please refresh my memory; Even though no obvious symtoms of sulfur problems, you have stopped ingesting those kinds of foods and are clearly experienceing improvement based on that change? (How long ago did you eliminate them?) Thanks, Adrienne ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet s HI Sara, I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. I have never had a reaction to eggs, protein or the high sulfur veggis. I would of never guessed that I would come back with a +/'+ on my CBS enzyeme and also my SUOX is +/-, which also makes suflur more dangerous to me. I would of never known without the genetic test. Janet Mercuria <mercuria@...> wrote: On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Edy Rayfield wrote: > I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what > my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother > decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw > up. Haven't had the stuff since. > > Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. In doing the Yasko work, I'm probably most excited about figuring out where I am in relation to sulfer-rich foods. I NEED beef. I don't know if it's the carnitine, or some of the enzymes in it, or what -- but there is stuff in beef that my body craves, and absolutely needs to run right. Lately, I've been trying to eat at least 6-8 oz a day, and I do feel better. We've got a wonderful organic-only beef wholesaler in the neighborhood, and a freezer in the garage, so we can buy it 20 - 30 pounds at a time in restaurant packs to save money. It's still not cheap, but at this point, I consider it medicinal. Pork is only somewhat as good. Fowl, in general, I can take or leave, and will usually leave (especially if it's turkey). Fresh salmon is so ubiquitous (and fabulous) locally that the natives here used to use it as currency -- but it's so rich that I can only handle it once or twice a week. In general, I worry about the mercury in fish -- less of a problem in salmon than most species, but still... As for veggies: I've had violent reactions to cruciferous veggies since I was a small child. Like Edy, I will simply toss asparagus. Artichokes, broccoli, cauliflour, and (ugh) brussels sprouts are similarly wasted on me: just the smell of them cooking makes me want to hurl. (I've been known to have this reaction to eggs as well -- I'm not a big egg-eater.) There's something pungent and ugly about these foods that just makes my body rebel. I can do cabbage in small quantities, but even that's less true as I age. Except for sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut. And kimchee. The cooking and fermenting seems to help. All of the above items, including the eggs, are high in sulfur, which suggests some kind of digestion problem with these foods. However, oddly: I'm totally fine with alliums -- onion, garlic, fennel, leek. Raw or cooked, they just make me happy all over, and so account for a high percentage of my total veggie intake. Yet they're high in sulfur, too. I have no clue what the difference might be. I'm really interested in seeing if there's a connection between these lifelong preferences, my ability to metabolize these foods, and my methlyation issues. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I guess I cannot answer that question at this point because I have not gotten far enough into the protocall. I will tell you that meat/protien makes me also feel better! However from my genetic test, I realize I am having pancreas issues and meat/protien supports that better for me. So because of the genetic test I know I also have to address that problem which I am doing. Since this has come up, I was put into a crash the other day because I waited to long to eat! Has anyone else ever put this together with their own crashes??? Also, all my life I have eaten protein and veggies to stay thin. Especially the surlfur veggies, brocolli in particular!!!! Sulfur, sulfur, sulfur.!!! Slowly by surely I was killing myself!! Because meat makes me feel better and I don't have a reaction to sulfur that I can link to that (except maybe chronic fatigue for 25 years!) I would of never known without that genetic test. Janet " Adrienne G. " <duckblossm@...> wrote: Thanks, Janet. Will, at some point, this be the only thing you are modifying, so that you can identify an effect? I am pursuing this question because of my interest in whether a person-me- coud be really wrong about experiencing something as very helpful (meat) when it really isn't. Adrienne Re: Re: Allergy to meat, was Soles of the feet, was histamines I have just started on the program. It takes awhile to get the ammonia down. 6 weeks or so using just a little protein and sulfur veggies. So I am in the beginning stages, to soon to tell. I will have to continue to be watchful of this the rest of my life. I do know from my genetics that sulfur/sulfites are a big no/no for me. Until I get the methylation going (after getting the ammonia down) I am going to have to be very careful with them. This protocall takes a few months, not a few days. The body is making major changes and I will need to monitor how I am doing as I go along to get the best results. Janet " Adrienne G. " <duckblossm@...> wrote: Janet, please refresh my memory; Even though no obvious symtoms of sulfur problems, you have stopped ingesting those kinds of foods and are clearly experienceing improvement based on that change? (How long ago did you eliminate them?) Thanks, Adrienne ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet s HI Sara, I love beef too. I also feel better on beef, but from what I understand so far, there is alot of glutamate iin beef. I have never had a reaction to eggs, protein or the high sulfur veggis. I would of never guessed that I would come back with a +/'+ on my CBS enzyeme and also my SUOX is +/-, which also makes suflur more dangerous to me. I would of never known without the genetic test. Janet Mercuria <mercuria@...> wrote: On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Edy Rayfield wrote: > I rely on this kind of body intuition now. It makes me wonder what > my body was trying to tell me when, as a small child, my mother > decided I MUST eat asparagus, and I did...and then promptly threw > up. Haven't had the stuff since. > > Raw onion? No-no. Sauteed? Perfecto. In doing the Yasko work, I'm probably most excited about figuring out where I am in relation to sulfer-rich foods. I NEED beef. I don't know if it's the carnitine, or some of the enzymes in it, or what -- but there is stuff in beef that my body craves, and absolutely needs to run right. Lately, I've been trying to eat at least 6-8 oz a day, and I do feel better. We've got a wonderful organic-only beef wholesaler in the neighborhood, and a freezer in the garage, so we can buy it 20 - 30 pounds at a time in restaurant packs to save money. It's still not cheap, but at this point, I consider it medicinal. Pork is only somewhat as good. Fowl, in general, I can take or leave, and will usually leave (especially if it's turkey). Fresh salmon is so ubiquitous (and fabulous) locally that the natives here used to use it as currency -- but it's so rich that I can only handle it once or twice a week. In general, I worry about the mercury in fish -- less of a problem in salmon than most species, but still... As for veggies: I've had violent reactions to cruciferous veggies since I was a small child. Like Edy, I will simply toss asparagus. Artichokes, broccoli, cauliflour, and (ugh) brussels sprouts are similarly wasted on me: just the smell of them cooking makes me want to hurl. (I've been known to have this reaction to eggs as well -- I'm not a big egg-eater.) There's something pungent and ugly about these foods that just makes my body rebel. I can do cabbage in small quantities, but even that's less true as I age. Except for sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut. And kimchee. The cooking and fermenting seems to help. All of the above items, including the eggs, are high in sulfur, which suggests some kind of digestion problem with these foods. However, oddly: I'm totally fine with alliums -- onion, garlic, fennel, leek. Raw or cooked, they just make me happy all over, and so account for a high percentage of my total veggie intake. Yet they're high in sulfur, too. I have no clue what the difference might be. I'm really interested in seeing if there's a connection between these lifelong preferences, my ability to metabolize these foods, and my methlyation issues. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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