Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 You also have to remember that most of the people getting mumps and measles right now HAVE been vaccinated. So getting her vaccinated won't mean that she won't get the diseases. If she is not vaccinated and gets them her immune system will be stronger to fight them off. Just my 2c C _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of peebster1 Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:44 AM Vaccinations Subject: MMR vaccination I adopted my daughter 2 years ago. She had the DTP and Polio vaccinations before I got her. So.. it's been 2 years and I've put off getting the MMR shot. My logic was based on the fact that I didn't know her past history..maybe she already had measles or mumps etc... plus there had been relatively few cases of either disease over the last decade in the U.S. Fast forward til today, and I sit here nervous at reports concerning measles in Boston and mumps in the midwest. What if she gets the mumps and goes deaf. Can I imagine that conversation with her when she's older " so..all you had to do was get me vaccinated and I would have my hearing? " . What if she gets measles and dies? What then? Could I live with myself? My latest plan is to get bloodwork done and determine if she has had the diseases. If not, then I will proceed with the MMR. Some of you might be strong enough to live in fear. I'm finding out that I can not. I will take the risk of the vaccination and hope for the best. I know someone posted last week or so about the importance of getting the MMR shot. I'm still not convinced that it's safe. I'm still not sure if it's the right thing to do...but it's a choice I'm going to make so I can move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 A mom on one of my just posted that her son recently received the MMR and suffered hearing loss due to it. ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 At 04:43 PM 6/23/2006 -0000, you wrote: >I adopted my daughter 2 years ago. She had the DTP and Polio >vaccinations before I got her. So.. it's been 2 years and I've put >off getting the MMR shot. My logic was based on the fact that I >didn't know her past history..maybe she already had measles or mumps >etc... plus there had been relatively few cases of either disease >over the last decade in the U.S. > >Fast forward til today, and I sit here nervous at reports concerning >measles in Boston and mumps in the midwest. What if she gets the >mumps and goes deaf. Can I imagine that conversation with her when >she's older " so..all you had to do was get me vaccinated and I would >have my hearing? " . What if she gets measles and dies? What then? >Could I live with myself? > >My latest plan is to get bloodwork done and determine if she has had >the diseases. If not, then I will proceed with the MMR. Some of you >might be strong enough to live in fear. I'm finding out that I can >not. I will take the risk of the vaccination and hope for the >best. > >I know someone posted last week or so about the importance of >getting the MMR shot. I'm still not convinced that it's safe. I'm >still not sure if it's the right thing to do...but it's a choice I'm >going to make so I can move forward. Wondering why you are here if you have decided that? Sheri > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Misty - the boy had hearing loss from a single mumps vaccine (possibly due to vax) not MMR... if we are talking about the same person on the same list. ) ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Featuring Personalized Baby & Children's Clothing + Natural Parenting/Breastfeeding Advocacy Products JULY 4TH designs are up! ~ Visit Us on LiveJournal (ask to be my friend!) http://rachellucas6.livejournal.com RE: MMR vaccination A mom on one of my just posted that her son recently received the MMR and suffered hearing loss due to it. ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Oh I'm so sorry . I must have misread it. Isn't the mumps vaccine part of the MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella)? Because it was a single vaccination the danger would still be the same since it is IN the MMR? I also understand it is only possibly due to vax, but isn't that is usually the case with most of vaccinations? I'm no expert, this was just DH and my thoughts from our research. ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Oh yeah I agree it was probably the vax! But the mom said she was still looking into other things. I guess it could be something else? Yes Mumps is part of MMR but she had gotten it seperately because I think she thought it was safer that way, like a lot of people think. I'm no expert either! LOL ) ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Featuring Personalized Baby & Children's Clothing + Natural Parenting/Breastfeeding Advocacy Products JULY 4TH designs are up! ~ Visit Us on LiveJournal (ask to be my friend!) http://rachellucas6.livejournal.com Re: MMR vaccination Oh I'm so sorry . I must have misread it. Isn't the mumps vaccine part of the MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella)? Because it was a single vaccination the danger would still be the same since it is IN the MMR? I also understand it is only possibly due to vax, but isn't that is usually the case with most of vaccinations? I'm no expert, this was just DH and my thoughts from our research. ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Hi Sheri. You wrote: " > Wondering why you are here if you have decided that? > Sheri " I am here to gather information and read other people's opinions about vaccinations. Perhaps you haven't read your group description in awhile. There are words like 'vaccinate selectively' and 'looking at making a decision " . I didn't realize a person had to be totally against all vaccinations in order to be a member here. I have no hidden agenda. I was just merely expressing the decision that I have come to regarding myself and my daughter. It's a tough decision and not one I take lightly. I'm sure there are many others on this list who struggle with these same issues everyday. Surely, we all want what's best for our children. I have found many of the articles and posts listed here very informative...but as of today, I'm of the mindset that getting the MMR vaccination for my child will be the right path for us. I respect your opinion to disagree with me, but I resent your implication that I shouldn't be here. Pat -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wondering why you are here if you have decided that? > Sheri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Ok, just checking. This is so new to us, and you know so much more about vax than we do, so I just wanted to be sure! I don't want to be giving bad info to anybody. Thanks! ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Oh I have so much to learn still, so much! LOL I have been on this list a few years but I can never keep up and I always have questions!! Cool that you are here BTW - you will learn a lot, I know I have!! Still paranoid though... ) ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Featuring Personalized Baby & Children's Clothing + Natural Parenting/Breastfeeding Advocacy Products JULY 4TH designs are up! ~ Visit Us on LiveJournal (ask to be my friend!) http://rachellucas6.livejournal.com Re: MMR vaccination Ok, just checking. This is so new to us, and you know so much more about vax than we do, so I just wanted to be sure! I don't want to be giving bad info to anybody. Thanks! ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Yes, Misty, you're correct. ALL vaccines are merely a game of Russian Roulette with our children. There are no safe ways to give them nor any safe vaccine. They all carry a risk whether given individually or in combination with others. Kay Re: MMR vaccination > Oh I'm so sorry . I must have misread it. Isn't the mumps vaccine > part of the MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella)? Because it was a single > vaccination the danger would still be the same since it is IN the MMR? I > also understand it is only possibly due to vax, but isn't that is usually > the case with most of vaccinations? I'm no expert, this was just DH and > my thoughts from our research. > > ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Wow! I wish I had known to look into this stuff before was born too! You're on top of things! Your post is where I heard about this group. I have to admit, sometimes I am still a little paranoid, and surprisingly enough, DH - being a paramedic with the MEDICAL mindset - isn't at all paranoid (after doing our research). ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Thanks Kay! It feels great to have the support, especially since we are SO new to our decision. ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old http://www.juiceplus.com/+mk43989 http://www.stayinhomeandlovinit.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi?id=Mi253953 & action=show --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Well, I am a former registered nurse (worked in obstetrics and pediatrics). I would never go back to that field knowing what I do now. I left my job about 9 years ago to stay home with my kids. A few years after that is when I started doing research on the dangers of vaccines and allopathic medicine after our new pup had a reaction to his puppy vaccines. I've been studying for the past 5 years or so now, and sure wish I knew 17 years ago what I know today! (that's when I was pregnant with my first). You're very fortunate to be learning what you are now while your son is so young. My children were sick constantly the first 10 years of their lives. I'm certain it's due to the vaccines they received. Their immune systems never had a chance. Now we stay away from conventional medicine and only use homeopathy. It's made a tremendous difference in our family's health. So keep researching. The thing that spoke loudly to me was looking at the driving force behind those who support and oppose vaccinating. Those of us who spread the word about the dangers of vaccines have NOTHING to gain by doing so. We only want to help people be aware of the dangers involved. Those who say vaccines are safe (MDs, pHARMaceutical companies, etc.) have MUCH to lose if more people become aware of the dangers of vaccines. Their $$$$ depends on people being ill. Who makes money off of healthy people? Follow the money trail. Kay Re: MMR vaccination > Wow! I wish I had known to look into this stuff before was born > too! You're on top of things! Your post is where I heard about this > group. I have to admit, sometimes I am still a little paranoid, and > surprisingly enough, DH - being a paramedic with the MEDICAL mindset - > isn't at all paranoid (after doing our research). > > ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 My latest plan is to get bloodwork done and determine if she has had >the diseases. If not, then I will proceed with the MMR. Some of you >might be strong enough to live in fear. I'm finding out that I can >not. I will take the risk of the vaccination and hope for the >best. See now, I don't live in fear, not anymore anyway. When I was pregnant with my first son I was given information on vaccines. I, like you, felt that it was better to have them, yet, I was terrified everytime he had them and I would stay up all night checking to make sure that nothing bad would happen to him. He was sick after every vaccine. We were in the ER about six times for illnesses and the majority of them came up within one week of him having his vaccines. He is now severly asthmatic (which our doctor has attributed to the vaccines and yes, hse is a " real " doctor, she is even a professor at Michigan State University). He is sick quite a bit and has even been hospitalized for his asthma and needed to be on oxygen for four days, they almost put him on a respirator. When he was " supposed " to get the MMR, I met a mother of an autistic child (I watched him at the gym daycare), he couldn't talk and just walked around in his own world. When I spoke with her about it, she tol d me that he had been progressing normally for his age, until the MMR. She said that he had started toilet training and had started talking, it was all gone within a few days of the MMR. I started reading more and decided that it was a risk that I wasn't willing to take. My younger son has never been vaccinated and has never been to the ER for a sickness. He is hardly ever sick and is healthy as a horse, if he were to contract measles or mumps, I know that his strong immune system would fight it off with ease, as it did when he had the chicken pox. So, I used to live in fear, fear that something would happen to my son from vaccinating him, but now I just have regret for not researching the vaccines enough and not listening to my gut, for if I had, I wouldn't have the tremendous guilt of knowing that if I hadn't had him vaccinated, he wouldn't have so much trouble breathing. Before you take your child in for that shot, go to the vaers website (it is government run) and read about all of the reactions, and then ask yourself how you would feel if your child wasn't able to ask you why you did it. -- Sara Find out what stinks in Genesee County! http://geneseecountystinks.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 That's what started me on this path too - my 15 month old great dane almost died from vax. Scarey stuff! ) ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Featuring Personalized Baby & Children's Clothing + Natural Parenting/Breastfeeding Advocacy Products JULY 4TH designs are up! ~ Visit Us on LiveJournal (ask to be my friend!) http://rachellucas6.livejournal.com Re: MMR vaccination > Wow! I wish I had known to look into this stuff before was born > too! You're on top of things! Your post is where I heard about this > group. I have to admit, sometimes I am still a little paranoid, and > surprisingly enough, DH - being a paramedic with the MEDICAL mindset - > isn't at all paranoid (after doing our research). > > ~Misty SAHM to - 9 months old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 At 11:54 PM 6/23/2006 -0000, you wrote: >Hi Sheri. You wrote: > > " > Wondering why you are here if you have decided that? > > Sheri " > >I am here to gather information and read other people's opinions about >vaccinations. Perhaps you haven't read your group description in >awhile. There are words like 'vaccinate selectively' and 'looking at >making a decision " . I didn't realize a person had to be totally >against all vaccinations in order to be a member here. > >I have no hidden agenda. I was just merely expressing the decision >that I have come to regarding myself and my daughter. It's a tough >decision and not one I take lightly. I'm sure there are many others >on this list who struggle with these same issues everyday. > >Surely, we all want what's best for our children. I have found many of >the articles and posts listed here very informative...but as of today, >I'm of the mindset that getting the MMR vaccination for my child will >be the right path for us. > >I respect your opinion to disagree with me, but I resent your >implication that I shouldn't be here. It was just a question. I didn't see you ask a question about it, just make a statement. Sheri listowner> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Sara, My sister had a similar story. Her son got his flu shots and then got his MMR shortly after that. He regressed horribly. Autism, on a good day, is the worst day in hell you could possibly imagine. I'll take my risks with measles or mumps over a life sentence with autism any day, any time. And I hope I never eat these words, but I can almost say with certainty that I'd rather my child end up with the worst case scenario from the sickness than to be autistic. It's THAT bad. We've never had any indication in our family that he would have reacted the way he did. My two older kids are fully vaxed as are my two other sister's kids. (We now see a lot of issues that were probably caused by the shots, but no autism.) So my 2 1/2 year old will NOT get the MMR, at least until she's 18 and can decide for herself. But to the original post: please know that we are not on here to make anyone out to be a villain. We're just sharing personal stories and will not judge anyone for the decision they thoughtfully and carefully make. Sorry if you felt that way. Most of us are indeed anti-vax but many of us are at different levels in this journey. I think we can almost all agree that there should NOT be a one-size-fits-all vaccine schedule in the US. Best regards, Sheri B. SaraShaughnessy@... wrote: My latest plan is to get bloodwork done and determine if she has had >the diseases. If not, then I will proceed with the MMR. Some of you >might be strong enough to live in fear. I'm finding out that I can >not. I will take the risk of the vaccination and hope for the >best. See now, I don't live in fear, not anymore anyway. When I was pregnant with my first son I was given information on vaccines. I, like you, felt that it was better to have them, yet, I was terrified everytime he had them and I would stay up all night checking to make sure that nothing bad would happen to him. He was sick after every vaccine. We were in the ER about six times for illnesses and the majority of them came up within one week of him having his vaccines. He is now severly asthmatic (which our doctor has attributed to the vaccines and yes, hse is a " real " doctor, she is even a professor at Michigan State University). He is sick quite a bit and has even been hospitalized for his asthma and needed to be on oxygen for four days, they almost put him on a respirator. When he was " supposed " to get the MMR, I met a mother of an autistic child (I watched him at the gym daycare), he couldn't talk and just walked around in his own world. When I spoke with her about it, she tol d me that he had been progressing normally for his age, until the MMR. She said that he had started toilet training and had started talking, it was all gone within a few days of the MMR. I started reading more and decided that it was a risk that I wasn't willing to take. My younger son has never been vaccinated and has never been to the ER for a sickness. He is hardly ever sick and is healthy as a horse, if he were to contract measles or mumps, I know that his strong immune system would fight it off with ease, as it did when he had the chicken pox. So, I used to live in fear, fear that something would happen to my son from vaccinating him, but now I just have regret for not researching the vaccines enough and not listening to my gut, for if I had, I wouldn't have the tremendous guilt of knowing that if I hadn't had him vaccinated, he wouldn't have so much trouble breathing. Before you take your child in for that shot, go to the vaers website (it is government run) and read about all of the reactions, and then ask yourself how you would feel if your child wasn't able to ask you why you did it. -- Sara Find out what stinks in Genesee County! http://geneseecountystinks.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Hi -- I grew up before there were vaccines for measeles, mumps, and chicken pox -- I had them all in my late teens and early twenties (college), and I'm fine. As were all of the kids in my neighborhood - truthfully I don't know anyone who had a serious side effect due to the actual illness -- having said that, who knows if we're dealing with the same strain of these diseases these days. On the other hand, my oldest child had a severe allergic reaction to the DPT which made me rethink vaccines. Both my kids are partially vaxed, and my oldest did come down with whooping cough two years ago - thankfully he managed to not be too effected by it (he practiced and played lacrosse despite the cough), although the cough lasted a couple of months. Bottom line, you may " regret " your decision no matter what choice you make, so do lots of research, then follow your heart, and pray it's the right decision. On 6/23/06, peebster1 <peebster1@...> wrote: > > I adopted my daughter 2 years ago. She had the DTP and Polio vaccinations > before I got her. So.. it's been 2 years and I've put off getting the MMR > shot. My logic was based on the fact that I didn't know her past > history..maybe she already had measles or mumps etc... plus there had been > relatively few cases of either disease over the last decade in the U.S. > > Fast forward til today, and I sit here nervous at reports concerning > measles in Boston and mumps in the midwest. What if she gets the mumps and > goes deaf. Can I imagine that conversation with her when > she's older " so..all you had to do was get me vaccinated and I would have > my hearing? " . What if she gets measles and dies? What then? Could I live > with myself? > > My latest plan is to get bloodwork done and determine if she has had the > diseases. If not, then I will proceed with the MMR. Some of you might be > strong enough to live in fear. I'm finding out that I can not. I will take > the risk of the vaccination and hope for the best. > > I know someone posted last week or so about the importance of getting the > MMR shot. I'm still not convinced that it's safe. I'm still not sure if > it's the right thing to do...but it's a choice I'm going to make so I can > move forward. Health & blessings, CREATING HEALTHIER LIVES...one family at a time! http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 http://www.TheMomPack.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Hi, Birte. I'm sorry that this happened to your daughter. How old was she whan she got this vaccination? As you may know, many children under the age of three have developed autism after getting this vaccination. I have come to believe that autism and CFS are the same disorder, the difference being the age at onset. If the onset occurs before the brain has fully developed, the child develops one of the autism spectrum disorders. If it occurs after this, it is CFS. Several people on this list are starting to treat their CFS with the treatments that have been successful in autism. If you would like to find out about them, I suggest that you go to http://www.danwebcast.com and watch some of the videos there. Also, I suggest that you go to http://www.autismanswer.com and join the parents group there to learn about Dr. Amy Yasko's treatment program. Rich > > > Hi. > > We are from Denmark and our daughter got ME/CFS after a MMR vaccination. > She was sick the day after the vaccination. 3/4 Year after she was > diagnosed with ME/CFS. > > Anybody else, who has got this bad experience. > > Kind regards from Birte. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 > > > Hi. > > We are from Denmark and our daughter got ME/CFS after a MMR vaccination. > She was sick the day after the vaccination. 3/4 Year after she was > diagnosed with ME/CFS. > > Anybody else, who has got this bad experience. > > Kind regards from Birte. One of my Grandsons was dx'd with Dyspraxia after his MMR. Although he had regular fits for several years (that have eased a lot now he is 9 years old) some more serious than others the MMR was never blamed but they declined him any boosters after that 1st jab. BW Dianne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 This is one of the shots I got, when I went into the military 23 years ago. I got sick right after that and haven't been well since. Sue > > > Hi. > > We are from Denmark and our daughter got ME/CFS after a MMR vaccination. > She was sick the day after the vaccination. 3/4 Year after she was > diagnosed with ME/CFS. > > Anybody else, who has got this bad experience. > > Kind regards from Birte. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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