Re: Tryptophan; thyroid

[Guest guest]

Yup and pass the licorice.... but no high blood pressure here because I

rotate with Siberian ginseng.

mjh

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I even figured out that my rapid heartbeat might be the result of my

thyroid medications, and a few days of drastically cutting down on

that (which had been stable for a long time) is already making a

difference in slowing my pulse without my feeling over-chilled in

temperatures others find hot. Possibly the licorice, Salt-C and Recup

are doing that - someone else (my memory. . .) mentioned that

addressing adrenal weakness helped normalize that person's thyroid

function, and that may be true in my case as well. Interested in

hearing about others on this topic.

[Guest guest]

AMino acids, like B vitamins, should not be taken in isolation for long

periods of time. A base of free form amino acds is a good idea. A two-fer is

to

add Brewer's or Nutritional yeast to the diet as it contains a wide spectrum

of the Bs and aminos.

See Healing Nutrients Within by Pfeiffer and Braverman

With enough niacin present, serotonin converts to melatonin. Serotonin has

several functions in the body in addition to helping regulate the sleep/wake

cycle and mood.

mjh

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As for the danger

of serotonin overload, I don't think anyone ever got that from

gorging on turkey - I think tryptophan has alternate metabolisms if

one is 'full' - I don't know, but I'm suspecting that an overload

just goes onto something else rather than overproducing serotonin. I

suspect that is true for almost all of not all of the amino acids;

people can have weird diets where they eat mostly one thing for a

protracted time, and while those with metabolic blocks might have an

overload of some amino acids, are there any recognized 'hazards' of

taking too much of any particular amino acid?

[Guest guest]

, this bottle of L-tryptophan caplets I have (Source Naturals)

says to take three 500-mg caplets before bedtime for restful sleep.

That's 1500 mg. I don't think you're overdoing anything.

>

> After checking the jar again last night (upstairs - away from the

> computer, so I didn't respond yesterday) I reread the label for the

> bulk tryptophan - the dosage is suggested at 500 mg a time, which

> they say is a half teaspoon, which I can easily reduce to after

> having taken closer to a 'scant teaspoon';

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

There are some issues with taking too much of a single amino acid.

One is that absorption of amino acid by the gut is competitive. The

same transporter molecule can be used for several different amino

acids. So if you consistently load up on one, the others might not

be absorbed well, and you could be come deficient in them. The

other thing is that the body needs a certain distribution of amino

acids to make protein, which is the main use of them in the body.

If your distribution gets out of balance because one is very high,

the body will break down more of that one. This puts a load on the

urea cycle, and also on the kidneys, and can cause problems if

things are too far out of whack. Usually taking a gram or two, or

more of an amino acid per day (or more of the more abundant ones

such as glutamine) will not cause problems, if a person has normal

metabolic machinery. On the other hand, amino acids can be very

toxic to someone who is born with a deficiency in one or more of the

enzymes needed to metabolize particular amino acids. This can

produce very serious birth defects. But these tend to show up at

birth or early in life.

Yes, it's very important to support the adrenals when treating low

thyroid. If this isn't done, it can worsen the adrenal situation.

It even says this in the PDR in the synthoid section.

Rich

are there any recognized 'hazards' of

> taking too much of any particular amino acid?

>

someone else (my memory. . .) mentioned that

> addressing adrenal weakness helped normalize that person's thyroid

> function, and that may be true in my case as well. Interested in

> hearing about others on this topic.

>

[Guest guest]

and Rich and all

Like SAM-e, l-Tryptophan needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Two hours

after food or one hour before food to be optimally effective.

mjh

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" rvankonynen " _richvank@... _ (mailto:richvank@...?Subject=

Re:%20Tryptophan;%20thyroid) _rvankonynen _

(rvankonynen)

Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:05 pm (PST)

Hi, .

Yes. When I said " consistently,Yes. When I said " consistently,<WBR> "

when other protein was being ingested. If you just load up on

tryptophan at bedtime, yes, by morning it should have done what it's

going to do and be out of there.

Rich

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Rich - wouldn't the transporters be freed up again by morning?

Rich wrote:

There are some issues with taking too much of a single amino acid.

One is that absorption of amino acid by the gut is competitive. The

same transporter molecule can be used for several different amino

acids. So if you consistently load up on one, the others might not

be absorbed well, and you could be come deficient in them.

[Guest guest]

Tryptophan; thyroid

After checking the jar again last night (upstairs - away from the

computer, so I didn't respond yesterday) I reread the label for the

bulk tryptophan - the dosage is suggested at 500 mg a time, which

they say is a half teaspoon,

*** That is so much more volume than my 500mg capsules. I am thinking the bulk

must have a lot of filler. That would make it easier to measure out. (And bring

sown the value of it, pricewise?)

, are there any recognized 'hazards' of

taking too much of any particular amino acid?

Take a bunch of phenylalanine and see what happens! Or, rather, please don't.

I have lived with that amino as the foundation of my ability to function at all,

and it is a bitch for side effects. They are multiple and entirely

dose-dependant.It was coping with them that led me to start using trypto., which

I have been using from a couple of years before it got banned, whenever that

was.

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

Yes. When I said " consistently, " I really meant throughout the day,

when other protein was being ingested. If you just load up on

tryptophan at bedtime, yes, by morning it should have done what it's

going to do and be out of there.

Rich

> There are some issues with taking too much of a single amino acid.

> One is that absorption of amino acid by the gut is competitive. The

> same transporter molecule can be used for several different amino

> acids. So if you consistently load up on one, the others might not

> be absorbed well, and you could be come deficient in them.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, I also hear a little bit of carb with it helps. No protein.

Adrienne

Re: Tryptophan; thyroid

and Rich and all

Like SAM-e, l-Tryptophan needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Two hours

after food or one hour before food to be optimally effective.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

" rvankonynen " _richvank@... _ (mailto:richvank@...?Subject=

Re:%20Tryptophan;%20thyroid) _rvankonynen _

(rvankonynen)

Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:05 pm (PST)

Hi, .

Yes. When I said " consistently,Yes. When I said " consistently,<WBR> "

when other protein was being ingested. If you just load up on

tryptophan at bedtime, yes, by morning it should have done what it's

going to do and be out of there.

Rich