Re: Short list of Yasko's treatments

[Guest guest]

Jill wrote:

> And I'm not sure, whether Yasko simly advocates no antibiotics.

a replies:

I have done a bit more sleuthing in between having a great day, and

Yasko recommends cat's claw for Lyme. This has not tended to decrease

my level of skepticism. I assume you know what I think of cat's claw.

It would be a cold day in Vegas before I would ingest it.

Jill wrote:

> She isn't claiming to cure AIDS< and why should she?

a replies:

Rich never said that, and I was being sarcastic. I guess we need a

avatar for dark humor. He replied to me that she claimed to be able

to keep HIV at bay. Many people are able to keep HIV at bay by a

healthy life style and supplements. That is a long way from a cure,

and we need to understand that.

Jill wrote:

> I don't think this work deserves such skepticism.

a replies:

How about you doing the sixth grade level summary of tests, symptoms

and supplements? GENETICS leads to what symtoms leads to what

treatments. That would possibly remove some of my skepticism. Well,

maybe. I mean I already see cat's claw which is dangerous, and then

ImmunoPro which we all know helps raise glutathione levels, not to

mention many vitamins etc that Cheney and others have been promoting

for years.

But it's not so much that I am skeptical. (I am getting more-so) It's

that I want a nice summary. I'm getting tired of doing all the

research. You are good at research and writing. How about a summary

linking genetic findings to symptoms to treatments?

If I seem skeptical, remember that I have been stung in the past -

harmed by writing such a summary for a certain unmentionable protocol

parts of which actually are quite effective. But at least I did my

homework on that one. And when I found risk factors I was honest

about them. Some people didn't my attitude on that either.

Jill writes:

> Please present information that is useful. Thanx.

a replies:

I think I just did. She has cat's claw on her list. I look forward to

you or Rich or another presenting the chart I suggested.

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

I'm confused. Are you sometimes paula carnes and sometimes pjeannus?

Or are those two different people--or sometimes do you post from two

different computers?

I will be writing an article on this for a major magazine (the autism

part). To that end I will be talking to every major researcher in the

field and so, by the end, I will understand this as well as anybody, I

suspect. I wouldn't normally even have told anybody, but since you

asked, yes, at some point, I will distill what I think. But it may be

in a second article, who knows.

I've just started my research as I got delayed by months finishing up

a book project.

I am NOT skeptical. Why? Because genes respond to the environment,

pure and simple. When bacteria infect us, they change the

environmental signals. If we can modulate those changes, we can

'fight' back.

I don't think cat's claw is that bad btw. And cipro is one of the

better antibiotics for me. I understand some have terrible reactions

to quinolones but I never did. I think I do better with more synthetic

antibiotics that are not as close in structure to molds, but that's

just a guess.

> > I don't think this work deserves such skepticism.

>

> a replies:

> How about you doing the sixth grade level summary of tests, symptoms

> and supplements? GENETICS leads to what symtoms leads to what

> treatments. That would possibly remove some of my skepticism. Well,

> maybe. I mean I already see cat's claw which is dangerous, and then

> ImmunoPro which we all know helps raise glutathione levels, not to

> mention many vitamins etc that Cheney and others have been promoting

> for years.

>

> But it's not so much that I am skeptical. (I am getting more-so) It's

> that I want a nice summary. I'm getting tired of doing all the

> research. You are good at research and writing. How about a summary

> linking genetic findings to symptoms to treatments?

>

> If I seem skeptical, remember that I have been stung in the past -

> harmed by writing such a summary for a certain unmentionable protocol

> parts of which actually are quite effective. But at least I did my

> homework on that one. And when I found risk factors I was honest

> about them. Some people didn't my attitude on that either.

>

>

> Jill writes:

> > Please present information that is useful. Thanx.

>

> a replies:

> I think I just did. She has cat's claw on her list. I look forward to

> you or Rich or another presenting the chart I suggested.

>

> a Carnes

>

[Guest guest]

My name is an arrogant " ass " name from when I used to work at

day trading. I'm really a nice, meek person. LOL My real name is

a Jeanne Carnes.

I am so glad you will be writing that article. You are the PERFECT

one to do it. I have enjoyed your previous articles that I have seen.

As to the whole quinolone thing, you don't want to get me started. I

know Ken doesn't. It's just that they carry huge risks for a

substantial portion of the population especially, it seems, those who

are magnesium and taurine deficient. Cat's claw, of course, is in the

same family even if it is from a tree. (I wonder if Yasko has a

genetic profile for folks low in mag. and taurine? I wonder if she

factors in the borrelia and babesia eating up some nutrients?)

You are fortunate you could take cipro. I would not recommend that

you press your luck though. " Taker beware. "

a

>

> I'm confused. Are you sometimes paula carnes and sometimes pjeannus?

> Or are those two different people--or sometimes do you post from two

> different computers?

>

> I will be writing an article on this for a major magazine (the

autism

> part). To that end I will be talking to every major researcher in

the

> field and so, by the end, I will understand this as well as

anybody, I

> suspect. I wouldn't normally even have told anybody, but since you

> asked, yes, at some point, I will distill what I think. But it may

be

> in a second article, who knows.

>

> I've just started my research as I got delayed by months finishing

up

> a book project.

>

> I am NOT skeptical. Why? Because genes respond to the environment,

> pure and simple. When bacteria infect us, they change the

> environmental signals. If we can modulate those changes, we can

> 'fight' back.

>

> I don't think cat's claw is that bad btw. And cipro is one of the

> better antibiotics for me. I understand some have terrible reactions

> to quinolones but I never did. I think I do better with more

synthetic

> antibiotics that are not as close in structure to molds, but that's

> just a guess.

>

>

> > > I don't think this work deserves such skepticism.

> >

> > a replies:

> > How about you doing the sixth grade level summary of tests,

symptoms

> > and supplements? GENETICS leads to what symtoms leads to what

> > treatments. That would possibly remove some of my skepticism.

Well,

> > maybe. I mean I already see cat's claw which is dangerous, and

then

> > ImmunoPro which we all know helps raise glutathione levels, not

to

> > mention many vitamins etc that Cheney and others have been

promoting

> > for years.

> >

> > But it's not so much that I am skeptical. (I am getting more-so)

It's

> > that I want a nice summary. I'm getting tired of doing all the

> > research. You are good at research and writing. How about a

summary

> > linking genetic findings to symptoms to treatments?

> >

> > If I seem skeptical, remember that I have been stung in the past -

> > harmed by writing such a summary for a certain unmentionable

protocol

> > parts of which actually are quite effective. But at least I did

my

> > homework on that one. And when I found risk factors I was honest

> > about them. Some people didn't my attitude on that either.

> >

> >

> > Jill writes:

> > > Please present information that is useful. Thanx.

> >

> > a replies:

> > I think I just did. She has cat's claw on her list. I look

forward to

> > you or Rich or another presenting the chart I suggested.

> >

> > a Carnes

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanx. It will be a schitt-load (shite load?) of stuff to absorb. But

there are a bunch of good reasons to do it, which include learning

stuff that can change my own life, along with helping others. What we

know on this list is not known to the general public, even the

biomedical approach to autism.

Well at least I now know you're the same person as I was getting confused.

> > > > I don't think this work deserves such skepticism.

> > >

> > > a replies:

> > > How about you doing the sixth grade level summary of tests,

> symptoms

> > > and supplements? GENETICS leads to what symtoms leads to what

> > > treatments. That would possibly remove some of my skepticism.

> Well,

> > > maybe. I mean I already see cat's claw which is dangerous, and

> then

> > > ImmunoPro which we all know helps raise glutathione levels, not

> to

> > > mention many vitamins etc that Cheney and others have been

> promoting

> > > for years.

> > >

> > > But it's not so much that I am skeptical. (I am getting more-so)

> It's

> > > that I want a nice summary. I'm getting tired of doing all the

> > > research. You are good at research and writing. How about a

> summary

> > > linking genetic findings to symptoms to treatments?

> > >

> > > If I seem skeptical, remember that I have been stung in the past -

>

> > > harmed by writing such a summary for a certain unmentionable

> protocol

> > > parts of which actually are quite effective. But at least I did

> my

> > > homework on that one. And when I found risk factors I was honest

> > > about them. Some people didn't my attitude on that either.

> > >

> > >

> > > Jill writes:

> > > > Please present information that is useful. Thanx.

> > >

> > > a replies:

> > > I think I just did. She has cat's claw on her list. I look

> forward to

> > > you or Rich or another presenting the chart I suggested.

> > >

> > > a Carnes

> > >

> >

>