Re: Short list of Yasko's treatments

July 28, 2006

Dear Jill,

Which techniques have you found that have helped you lessen your toxin load?

besides sweating out the toxins..(would assume this one is

mechanical)..what naturopathic routes have worked?

THANKS!!!

July 28, 2006

Ok, can you, please explain the ORAKIDNEY, IMMUNOFORTE??? for what specific

symptoms?

THANKS!!!

July 28, 2006

For most on this list, the antibiotics don't/didn't work or we can't

handle them.

We know the main trigger of the kids' autism: a punishing schedule of

vaccines, sometimes in triplicate (MMR), until recently all preserved

in an extremely toxic form of mercury. When the kids have the

vulnerable genetics, they don't excrete the mercury, and they are

immune damaged almost immediately.

For those of us on this list investigating this approach, we're in as

much trouble as the autistic kids. There is no other option for us and

so we are extremely grateful to have THIS option.

I should add that, naturopathic cleansing techniques should add a

great deal of help here, because you can mechanically/naturopathically

remove many of these toxins that have built up. You can lihten your

load. I plan to do both approaches in the coming year.

>

> Hi a,

> Please read her forum and you can get all the lists you want . . .

lots of

> info there. Start at the Welcome section at

www.autismanswer.com/forum. A

> guess what! . . .the reading of her forum is FREE.

> Best Wishes, Sue T

>

> Hello Sue,

>

> I want a nice short list. Are you saying she recommends lists of

things? Can

> you give me, say, five things? Give me five! <grin>

>

> I want something, anything, that would give me a clue that spending

hours

> studying her approach is worth my time. I have had cfs for 11 years,

> borrelia for 30 but was reasonably healthy all that time in spite of the

> infection. I respond to antibiotics very nicely. I relapse. I have the

> genetic makeup to not clear mold or biotoxins so I avoid mold and

ticks. I

> take whey protein plus a few other vitamins and minerals. I have

tendon and

> cns damage from quinolones.

>

> What can Yasko do for me? How can she change my genetic makeup? If her

> treatment breaks the vicious cycle what's to say hidden borrelia or

toxic

> mold won't start it right back up again?

>

> I think part of the reason I remain skeptical of this sort of thought

> process (there are supplements etc that can cure us) is that I see a

massive

> epidemic of chronic infections and toxic mold and God only knows what is

> giving all the kids autism.

>

> But the genetic aspect of who gets damaged relevant to a huge

portion of the

> earth's population -is not the cause - just the likelihood of being a

> victim. It's like the woman who gets caught in the dark alley. The dark

> alley is not the cause. Can Yasko's treatments overcome the genetics? If

> they can we will be taking them for the rest of our lives. Hey, if the

> antibiotics work for some of us why not take them?

>

> a Carnes

>

July 28, 2006

I find the best technique for me that has been so helpful is my home

hyperbaric chamber.

Then my vitamin/mineral IV's with glutathione chasers.

]

I'm going to try and start a naturopathic cleansing program. I'm doing

a lot of reading on curezone. I will try colon cleansing, then liver

flushes, and then maybe some herbal cleansing.

I'm trying salt/c again...I never really had too strong of a response

yay or nay to it but I think I will give it a good solid trial.

Do some reading on curezone, it's a great site!

>

> Dear Jill,

>

> Which techniques have you found that have helped you lessen your

toxin load?

> besides sweating out the toxins..(would assume this one is

> mechanical)..what naturopathic routes have worked?

>

> THANKS!!!

>

July 28, 2006

HI a,

This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the forum. This

is to strenghten some body systems.

THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so ever.

Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can only point

you in the right direction.

www.autsimanswer.com/forum

Best wishes, Sue

Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

Super Digestive enzymes

OraAdrenal

ImmunoForte

OraKidney

Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

GABA

Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

Magnesium

Zinc

a Carnes <pj7@...> wrote:

Hi a,

Please read her forum and you can get all the lists you want . . . lots of

info there. Start at the Welcome section at www.autismanswer.com/forum. A

guess what! . . .the reading of her forum is FREE.

Best Wishes, Sue T

Hello Sue,

I want a nice short list. Are you saying she recommends lists of things? Can

you give me, say, five things? Give me five! <grin>

I want something, anything, that would give me a clue that spending hours

studying her approach is worth my time. I have had cfs for 11 years,

borrelia for 30 but was reasonably healthy all that time in spite of the

infection. I respond to antibiotics very nicely. I relapse. I have the

genetic makeup to not clear mold or biotoxins so I avoid mold and ticks. I

take whey protein plus a few other vitamins and minerals. I have tendon and

cns damage from quinolones.

What can Yasko do for me? How can she change my genetic makeup? If her

treatment breaks the vicious cycle what's to say hidden borrelia or toxic

mold won't start it right back up again?

I think part of the reason I remain skeptical of this sort of thought

process (there are supplements etc that can cure us) is that I see a massive

epidemic of chronic infections and toxic mold and God only knows what is

giving all the kids autism.

But the genetic aspect of who gets damaged relevant to a huge portion of the

earth's population -is not the cause - just the likelihood of being a

victim. It's like the woman who gets caught in the dark alley. The dark

alley is not the cause. Can Yasko's treatments overcome the genetics? If

they can we will be taking them for the rest of our lives. Hey, if the

antibiotics work for some of us why not take them?

a Carnes

July 28, 2006

Hi Sue,

This is interesting. I couldn't begin to tolerate digestive enzymes or

Milk Thistle. I'd die. I assume most people could? Totally befuddled.

Michele G.

> Hi a,

> Please read her forum and you can get all the lists you want . . .

lots of

> info there. Start at the Welcome section at

www.autismanswer.com/forum. A

> guess what! . . .the reading of her forum is FREE.

> Best Wishes, Sue T

>

> Hello Sue,

>

> I want a nice short list. Are you saying she recommends lists of

things? Can

> you give me, say, five things? Give me five! <grin>

>

> I want something, anything, that would give me a clue that spending

hours

> studying her approach is worth my time. I have had cfs for 11 years,

> borrelia for 30 but was reasonably healthy all that time in spite of the

> infection. I respond to antibiotics very nicely. I relapse. I have the

> genetic makeup to not clear mold or biotoxins so I avoid mold and

ticks. I

> take whey protein plus a few other vitamins and minerals. I have

tendon and

> cns damage from quinolones.

>

> What can Yasko do for me? How can she change my genetic makeup? If her

> treatment breaks the vicious cycle what's to say hidden borrelia or

toxic

> mold won't start it right back up again?

>

> I think part of the reason I remain skeptical of this sort of thought

> process (there are supplements etc that can cure us) is that I see a

massive

> epidemic of chronic infections and toxic mold and God only knows what is

> giving all the kids autism.

>

> But the genetic aspect of who gets damaged relevant to a huge

portion of the

> earth's population -is not the cause - just the likelihood of being a

> victim. It's like the woman who gets caught in the dark alley. The dark

> alley is not the cause. Can Yasko's treatments overcome the genetics? If

> they can we will be taking them for the rest of our lives. Hey, if the

> antibiotics work for some of us why not take them?

>

> a Carnes

>

July 28, 2006

Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try to read

more to educate myself.

Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous, because I

think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune suppressing.

I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population would be

genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what supplements they

were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where, over

time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

a

HI a,

This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the forum. This

is to strenghten some body systems.

THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so ever.

Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can only point

you in the right direction.

www.autsimanswer.com/forum

Best wishes, Sue

Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

Super Digestive enzymes

OraAdrenal

ImmunoForte

OraKidney

Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

GABA

Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

Magnesium

Zinc

July 28, 2006

,

I have written to Autism Answer and asked a question about their multi because

I cannot handle NAC and that is in that. When you look at the supplement, that

is a serving size of 6, put if you do any research on Autism Answer you will see

most only take about 2. I am using a brand as close to her stuff for now.

Without the things I cannot handle. AND I HAVE BACKED WAY OFF ON MY SUPPLEMENTS.

Janet

rosebud1082001 <ganesh1008@...> wrote:

Hi Sue,

This is interesting. I couldn't begin to tolerate digestive enzymes or

Milk Thistle. I'd die. I assume most people could? Totally befuddled.

Michele G.

> Hi a,

> Please read her forum and you can get all the lists you want . . .

lots of

> info there. Start at the Welcome section at

www.autismanswer.com/forum. A

> guess what! . . .the reading of her forum is FREE.

> Best Wishes, Sue T

>

> Hello Sue,

>

> I want a nice short list. Are you saying she recommends lists of

things? Can

> you give me, say, five things? Give me five! <grin>

>

> I want something, anything, that would give me a clue that spending

hours

> studying her approach is worth my time. I have had cfs for 11 years,

> borrelia for 30 but was reasonably healthy all that time in spite of the

> infection. I respond to antibiotics very nicely. I relapse. I have the

> genetic makeup to not clear mold or biotoxins so I avoid mold and

ticks. I

> take whey protein plus a few other vitamins and minerals. I have

tendon and

> cns damage from quinolones.

>

> What can Yasko do for me? How can she change my genetic makeup? If her

> treatment breaks the vicious cycle what's to say hidden borrelia or

toxic

> mold won't start it right back up again?

>

> I think part of the reason I remain skeptical of this sort of thought

> process (there are supplements etc that can cure us) is that I see a

massive

> epidemic of chronic infections and toxic mold and God only knows what is

> giving all the kids autism.

>

> But the genetic aspect of who gets damaged relevant to a huge

portion of the

> earth's population -is not the cause - just the likelihood of being a

> victim. It's like the woman who gets caught in the dark alley. The dark

> alley is not the cause. Can Yasko's treatments overcome the genetics? If

> they can we will be taking them for the rest of our lives. Hey, if the

> antibiotics work for some of us why not take them?

>

> a Carnes

>

July 28, 2006

Illness and recovery, no matter what the disease, must exist on a spectrum from

worst cases-either early death or long-term chronic misery- to no-big-deal,

again based on the complex interaction of inheritance and circumstances. The old

question of nature and nurture (or lack thereof)

How an illness is treated, it seems to me, is only part of the equation. That

is to say, there is probably NO treatment that can be guaranteed to work in

every case of the illness it is meant for.

So it is probably pretty certain that the example given-more and more

pathogens-is gonna be treatment resistant, or surely much harder. That doesn't

mean this approach is worthless. The question will be, just how worthwhile it

may turn out to be for how many of us. Embarking on a new course is always a

risk.

Youth, wealth, determination or desperation will determine which of us does

what. I am kind of slow to take big risks. I know that I will eventually be able

to tell, by staying tuned here, whether I want to invest much or little. I am

starting out small. It's about time I find out once and for all what my glut.

status is. I am almost hoping it is low, so that I can then take a crack at

seeing if I can raise it by, as Rich said, brute force. (My chiro already did

his own testing as said whey would be helpful to me. I will start on it as soon

as I have the blood drawn. I tried a course of it before, with little sign of

change.)

I think that what I read here or on the Yasko sites, at least as far as theory

goes, will not make much difference to me. I just need to know about examples of

it working.

If the treatments work, well then the theory must be at least in the ballpark,

no?

Adrienne

Re: Short list of Yasko's treatments

Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try to read

more to educate myself.

Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous, because I

think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune suppressing.

I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population would be

genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what supplements they

were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where, over

time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

a

HI a,

This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the forum. This

is to strenghten some body systems.

THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so ever.

Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can only point

you in the right direction.

www.autsimanswer.com/forum

Best wishes, Sue

Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

Super Digestive enzymes

OraAdrenal

ImmunoForte

OraKidney

Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

GABA

Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

Magnesium

Zinc

July 29, 2006

Sue wrote:

> This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

forum. This is to strenghten some body systems.

Hello Sue,

I just spent an hour of my time reading at the forum. (I am probably

a forum idiot.) What I found eventually is a list for beginners

treating autistic children. This list is formidable and much longer

than a top ten. I think I will go back to trying to find MSH for sale

in China - just kidding, but that is more likely to happen for me

than figuring out or affording this protocol(s).

Here is Amy's beginning list.

STEP ONE

Vitamins/minerals/ antioxidants to lay the nutritional ground work:

*HHC General Vitamin( made for the protocol and good for all

genetics)

Vitamin D (I only recommend HHC brand and this would be in addition

to the amount of Vit. D in Cod Liver Oil)

Vitamin C w/rose hips ( Beyond C is dependent on genetics)

Vitamin E

Cell Food ( 2 drops only)

Bio Navitus

Liquid Selenium

Liquid Molybdenum

Liquid Zinc

Nerve Calm RNA

Health Foundation RNA

Stress RNA

Bowel RNA

Stomach RNA

Organ Support RNA

Kidney Support RNA

Ora-Adrenal

Support liver health/ increase glutathione/increase sulfur:

Rosemary

Glutathione Shampoo~Not available at this time

Glutathione toothpaste~Not available at this time

~Instead very low dose reduced glutathione (a sprinkle) or rely on

the dose in the HHC general vitamin or glutathione cream.

Dandelion root

Cod Liver Oil (every other day until genetics are known)

Ora-Liv (HHC brand)

Curcumin (cysteine to glutathione)

Supplements to aid in protection from excess calcium:

( Use natural forms of calcium only in phase one)

Magnesium Citrate

Vinpocetine

Zinc (25-40mg/day)

Supplements to aid in the balance of glutamate and GABA:(regardless

of glutamates levels on AA test)

Branched Chain Amino Acids (ONLY leu/ileu/val)

(discontinue immediately if urines smell like " maple syrup " )

Pycnogenol (I only recommend HHC brand )

Grape seed extract

GABA (*plain~recommend HHC only)

Sublingual cyanocobalamine (B12)

Sublingual hydroxycobalamine (B12)

Supplements to Support the Pancreas:

Ora-Pancreas (HHC brand)

Vitamin K

Super Digestive Enzymes-with meals

Ayur-Gymnema

CCK

Decrease yeast/repopulate GI tract? decrease E.coli and Strep:

Super Digestive enzymes- with meals

Ultra Dairy enzymes-with meals

Kyodophilus-with meals

Suprema Dophilus

Inuflora

Acidophilus

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Neem

Myrrh

Goldenseal

cranberry

Oregon grape

Barberry

Uva ursi

If a CDSA test indicates that organisms are resistant to any of these

natural herbs a substitution can be made such that the resistant

herbs in question can be replaced in the mixture with caprylic acid,

oregamax, olive extract or GSE (grapefruit seed extract).

Candex

Lactoferrin

Bio Thyro

Support to reducing Stims:

Nettle( high in natural calcium so only use small amount)

Stress RNA

IP6 ( Better form of Inositol)

Benfotiamine

Support Membrane Fluidity:

Essential Fatty Acids Mixture(EFA's)Every other day until genetics

Neuromins (DHA)Every other day until genetics

Policosanol

Aid in helping inflammation around nerves:

Health Foundation RNA

Boswellia

Curcumin

Supplements to support energy/protect the brain:

ATP

Oxydrene

Vinpocetine

Support proper sugar glycosylation/balance Zinc/Copper:

Carnosine

Vitamin K

Rosemary

EDTA (just 1x/day at this stage)

or Beyond clean Bath

Molybdenum

Supplements to support the gut:

Slippery Elm

Colostrum

Mastica Gum

Bowel RNA

Supplements to aid in Constipation:

Artichoke

Yellow Dock

Cascara Sagrada

Aloe Vera

Magnesium

Cod Liver Oil

Rhubarb

If a previous Amino Acids Test indicated high levels of Ammonia

and/or Taurine:

Yucca

Ammonia Support RNA (3 X/day)Anyone with a CBS mutation should be

using this product atleast once a day , regardless of ammonia level

Lower the protein in diet

Charcoal w/Magnesium Citrate to flush ( 2 to 3x/week)

IF YOU ARE STILL SUPPLEMENTING WITH CALCIUM, ASPARTATE BASED

SUPPLEMENTS, HIGH DOSE B6, GLUTAMINE, GLYCINE AND HIGH DOSES OF ZINC

THIS IS NOT PHASE ONE! PLEASE STUDY THE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND

WHY.

NOTE: If supplements are listed in more than one category the

intention is to take the supplements only once a day. They are listed

in each category to give a sense of the multiple uses of the

individual supplements. These supplements can be purchased through

Holistic Health Consultants (www.holisticheal.com) (HHC) and

Longevity Plus-RNA (www.longevityplus-rna.com)

_________________

July 29, 2006

Hi, a.

You might be interested to know that Prof. Harry

(http://www.hdfoster.com) has turned AIDS cases around using a

combination of certain supplements (selenium, cysteine, tryptophan

and glutamine). They don't kill the HIV virus, but they put it back

into latency, and the person is able to go back to work.

Rich

> Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous,

because I

> think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune

suppressing.

> I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population

would be

> genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what

supplements they

> were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where,

over

> time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

> a

July 29, 2006

You DON'Tt need to use everything in every category on her step one list. Its

options of what works depending upon the personalized genetics, needs and

finaces. In effect, she builds the body from the ground up, by by- passing the

genetic mutations. Starting, the step one supports the organs, (the top ten

supplements) because when the genetic results come back the body needs to be

ready to take on the detox involved with the ammonia protocoll, or step two or

whatever is needed. It can be very daunting when one takes a first look. The

more you learn the easier it becomes. Its a process, Rome wasn't built in a

day..

Janet

pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:

Sue wrote:

> This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

forum. This is to strenghten some body systems.

Hello Sue,

I just spent an hour of my time reading at the forum. (I am probably

a forum idiot.) What I found eventually is a list for beginners

treating autistic children. This list is formidable and much longer

than a top ten. I think I will go back to trying to find MSH for sale

in China - just kidding, but that is more likely to happen for me

than figuring out or affording this protocol(s).

Here is Amy's beginning list.

STEP ONE

Vitamins/minerals/ antioxidants to lay the nutritional ground work:

*HHC General Vitamin( made for the protocol and good for all

genetics)

Vitamin D (I only recommend HHC brand and this would be in addition

to the amount of Vit. D in Cod Liver Oil)

Vitamin C w/rose hips ( Beyond C is dependent on genetics)

Vitamin E

Cell Food ( 2 drops only)

Bio Navitus

Liquid Selenium

Liquid Molybdenum

Liquid Zinc

Nerve Calm RNA

Health Foundation RNA

Stress RNA

Bowel RNA

Stomach RNA

Organ Support RNA

Kidney Support RNA

Ora-Adrenal

Support liver health/ increase glutathione/increase sulfur:

Rosemary

Glutathione Shampoo~Not available at this time

Glutathione toothpaste~Not available at this time

~Instead very low dose reduced glutathione (a sprinkle) or rely on

the dose in the HHC general vitamin or glutathione cream.

Dandelion root

Cod Liver Oil (every other day until genetics are known)

Ora-Liv (HHC brand)

Curcumin (cysteine to glutathione)

Supplements to aid in protection from excess calcium:

( Use natural forms of calcium only in phase one)

Magnesium Citrate

Vinpocetine

Zinc (25-40mg/day)

Supplements to aid in the balance of glutamate and GABA:(regardless

of glutamates levels on AA test)

Branched Chain Amino Acids (ONLY leu/ileu/val)

(discontinue immediately if urines smell like " maple syrup " )

Pycnogenol (I only recommend HHC brand )

Grape seed extract

GABA (*plain~recommend HHC only)

Sublingual cyanocobalamine (B12)

Sublingual hydroxycobalamine (B12)

Supplements to Support the Pancreas:

Ora-Pancreas (HHC brand)

Vitamin K

Super Digestive Enzymes-with meals

Ayur-Gymnema

CCK

Decrease yeast/repopulate GI tract? decrease E.coli and Strep:

Super Digestive enzymes- with meals

Ultra Dairy enzymes-with meals

Kyodophilus-with meals

Suprema Dophilus

Inuflora

Acidophilus

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Neem

Myrrh

Goldenseal

cranberry

Oregon grape

Barberry

Uva ursi

If a CDSA test indicates that organisms are resistant to any of these

natural herbs a substitution can be made such that the resistant

herbs in question can be replaced in the mixture with caprylic acid,

oregamax, olive extract or GSE (grapefruit seed extract).

Candex

Lactoferrin

Bio Thyro

Support to reducing Stims:

Nettle( high in natural calcium so only use small amount)

Stress RNA

IP6 ( Better form of Inositol)

Benfotiamine

Support Membrane Fluidity:

Essential Fatty Acids Mixture(EFA's)Every other day until genetics

Neuromins (DHA)Every other day until genetics

Policosanol

Aid in helping inflammation around nerves:

Health Foundation RNA

Boswellia

Curcumin

Supplements to support energy/protect the brain:

ATP

Oxydrene

Vinpocetine

Support proper sugar glycosylation/balance Zinc/Copper:

Carnosine

Vitamin K

Rosemary

EDTA (just 1x/day at this stage)

or Beyond clean Bath

Molybdenum

Supplements to support the gut:

Slippery Elm

Colostrum

Mastica Gum

Bowel RNA

Supplements to aid in Constipation:

Artichoke

Yellow Dock

Cascara Sagrada

Aloe Vera

Magnesium

Cod Liver Oil

Rhubarb

If a previous Amino Acids Test indicated high levels of Ammonia

and/or Taurine:

Yucca

Ammonia Support RNA (3 X/day)Anyone with a CBS mutation should be

using this product atleast once a day , regardless of ammonia level

Lower the protein in diet

Charcoal w/Magnesium Citrate to flush ( 2 to 3x/week)

IF YOU ARE STILL SUPPLEMENTING WITH CALCIUM, ASPARTATE BASED

SUPPLEMENTS, HIGH DOSE B6, GLUTAMINE, GLYCINE AND HIGH DOSES OF ZINC

THIS IS NOT PHASE ONE! PLEASE STUDY THE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND

WHY.

NOTE: If supplements are listed in more than one category the

intention is to take the supplements only once a day. They are listed

in each category to give a sense of the multiple uses of the

individual supplements. These supplements can be purchased through

Holistic Health Consultants (www.holisticheal.com) (HHC) and

Longevity Plus-RNA (www.longevityplus-rna.com)

_________________

July 29, 2006

a, you are right and you are wrong.

Yes the infections are bad. I know that firsthand from how horrible

the tickbite 6 years ago made me feel, overnight. Clear, schmear ;.

The symptoms were global and unbelievable. My inflammatory response

was extreme, my antibodies sky high, and I couldn't 'clear' it.

OTOH, there are other ways to clear infections than antibiotics. Thus

the sanitoriums for tuberculosis--something about UV light had an

effect on the bug.

And I'm not sure, whether Yasko simly advocates no antibiotics. I do

know that Garry Gordon advocates alernative methods of clearing

infections (UVB, ozone, etc). Dan! doctors make clear that the kids'

strep and fungal infections need to be treated, for instance. Boyd

Haley asks, why do your kisd have so many infections? Because from da

one they're given these vaccines, on a punishing schedule, and with

mercury in them (or previously, with mercury in them.) He explains

what mercury does to cripple the immune and nervous system.

One way to stop abug is to stop or neutralize the toxins it

generates. They are working on this in regards to anthrax, at the NIH.

Another way to neutralize a bug might to stop it from hijacking a

body's cascade.

She isn't claiming to cure AIDS< and why should she?

I don't think this work deserves such skepticism. It's great work and

is not necessarily 'against' antibiotics. And anyway, this list is

supposed to be presented good theoretical or practical information.

It's not supposed to be a place where someone keeps piping in to say

how skeptical they are.

Please present information that is useful. Thanx.

>

> Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try

to read

> more to educate myself.

>

> Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous,

because I

> think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune

suppressing.

> I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population

would be

> genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what

supplements they

> were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where, over

> time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

>

> But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

>

> a

>

> HI a,

>

> This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

forum. This

> is to strenghten some body systems.

> THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so

ever.

>

> Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can

only point

> you in the right direction.

> www.autsimanswer.com/forum

> Best wishes, Sue

>

> Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

>

> Super Digestive enzymes

> OraAdrenal

> ImmunoForte

> OraKidney

> Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

> GABA

> Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

> Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

> Magnesium

> Zinc

>

July 29, 2006

Sorry to be dense,

But does the Yasko programme presume that one has no amalgams to worry

about before treatment commences?

Rosie

For most on this list, the antibiotics don't/didn't work or we can't

handle them.

We know the main trigger of the kids' autism: a punishing schedule of

vaccines, sometimes in triplicate (MMR), until recently all preserved

in an extremely toxic form of mercury. When the kids have the

vulnerable genetics, they don't excrete the mercury, and they are

immune damaged almost immediately.

For those of us on this list investigating this approach, we're in as

much trouble as the autistic kids. There is no other option for us and

so we are extremely grateful to have THIS option.

I should add that, naturopathic cleansing techniques should add a

great deal of help here, because you can mechanically/naturopathically

remove many of these toxins that have built up. You can lihten your

load. I plan to do both approaches in the coming year.

>

> Hi a,

> Please read her forum and you can get all the lists you want . . .

lots of

> info there. Start at the Welcome section at

www.autismanswer.com/forum. A

> guess what! . . .the reading of her forum is FREE.

> Best Wishes, Sue T

>

> Hello Sue,

>

> I want a nice short list. Are you saying she recommends lists of

things? Can

> you give me, say, five things? Give me five! <grin>

>

> I want something, anything, that would give me a clue that spending

hours

> studying her approach is worth my time. I have had cfs for 11 years,

> borrelia for 30 but was reasonably healthy all that time in spite of

the

> infection. I respond to antibiotics very nicely. I relapse. I have the

> genetic makeup to not clear mold or biotoxins so I avoid mold and

ticks. I

> take whey protein plus a few other vitamins and minerals. I have

tendon and

> cns damage from quinolones.

>

> What can Yasko do for me? How can she change my genetic makeup? If her

> treatment breaks the vicious cycle what's to say hidden borrelia or

toxic

> mold won't start it right back up again?

>

> I think part of the reason I remain skeptical of this sort of thought

> process (there are supplements etc that can cure us) is that I see a

massive

> epidemic of chronic infections and toxic mold and God only knows what

is

> giving all the kids autism.

>

> But the genetic aspect of who gets damaged relevant to a huge

portion of the

> earth's population -is not the cause - just the likelihood of being a

> victim. It's like the woman who gets caught in the dark alley. The

dark

> alley is not the cause. Can Yasko's treatments overcome the genetics?

If

> they can we will be taking them for the rest of our lives. Hey, if the

> antibiotics work for some of us why not take them?

>

> a Carnes

>

July 29, 2006

Hi a,

Dr. Yasko may not be the complete answer to your illness, but a huge tool in

helping your body detox metals, fight infections, virus,etc. She does supports

ABX when they are needed. She have alternative ways of dealing with that , too.

Sue T

a Carnes <pj7@...> wrote:

Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try to

read

more to educate myself.

Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous, because I

think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune suppressing.

I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population would be

genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what supplements they

were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where, over

time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

a

HI a,

This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the forum. This

is to strenghten some body systems.

THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so ever.

Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can only point

you in the right direction.

www.autsimanswer.com/forum

Best wishes, Sue

Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

Super Digestive enzymes

OraAdrenal

ImmunoForte

OraKidney

Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

GABA

Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

Magnesium

Zinc

July 29, 2006

Janet and ,

I only take 1/2 of Dr. Amy multi . . it is OK to build up very slowly.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

,

I have written to Autism Answer and asked a question about their multi because I

cannot handle NAC and that is in that. When you look at the supplement, that is

a serving size of 6, put if you do any research on Autism Answer you will see

most only take about 2. I am using a brand as close to her stuff for now.

Without the things I cannot handle. AND I HAVE BACKED WAY OFF ON MY SUPPLEMENTS.

Janet

rosebud1082001 <ganesh1008@...> wrote:

Hi Sue,

This is interesting. I couldn't begin to tolerate digestive enzymes or

Milk Thistle. I'd die. I assume most people could? Totally befuddled.

Michele G.

> Hi a,

> Please read her forum and you can get all the lists you want . . .

lots of

> info there. Start at the Welcome section at

www.autismanswer.com/forum. A

> guess what! . . .the reading of her forum is FREE.

> Best Wishes, Sue T

>

> Hello Sue,

>

> I want a nice short list. Are you saying she recommends lists of

things? Can

> you give me, say, five things? Give me five! <grin>

>

> I want something, anything, that would give me a clue that spending

hours

> studying her approach is worth my time. I have had cfs for 11 years,

> borrelia for 30 but was reasonably healthy all that time in spite of the

> infection. I respond to antibiotics very nicely. I relapse. I have the

> genetic makeup to not clear mold or biotoxins so I avoid mold and

ticks. I

> take whey protein plus a few other vitamins and minerals. I have

tendon and

> cns damage from quinolones.

>

> What can Yasko do for me? How can she change my genetic makeup? If her

> treatment breaks the vicious cycle what's to say hidden borrelia or

toxic

> mold won't start it right back up again?

>

> I think part of the reason I remain skeptical of this sort of thought

> process (there are supplements etc that can cure us) is that I see a

massive

> epidemic of chronic infections and toxic mold and God only knows what is

> giving all the kids autism.

>

> But the genetic aspect of who gets damaged relevant to a huge

portion of the

> earth's population -is not the cause - just the likelihood of being a

> victim. It's like the woman who gets caught in the dark alley. The dark

> alley is not the cause. Can Yasko's treatments overcome the genetics? If

> they can we will be taking them for the rest of our lives. Hey, if the

> antibiotics work for some of us why not take them?

>

> a Carnes

>

July 29, 2006

Thanks for posting that. When you get down to aids for constipation, there are

seven supplements listed. I am presuming she does not think we need all seven.

So, for now, I am inferring that she is NOT recommending, under each heading,

that we take everything in the list. Could anyone who actually knows please

comment on this?

Adrienne

Re: Short list of Yasko's treatments

Sue wrote:

> This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

forum. This is to strenghten some body systems.

Hello Sue,

I just spent an hour of my time reading at the forum. (I am probably

a forum idiot.) What I found eventually is a list for beginners

treating autistic children. This list is formidable and much longer

than a top ten. I think I will go back to trying to find MSH for sale

in China - just kidding, but that is more likely to happen for me

than figuring out or affording this protocol(s).

Here is Amy's beginning list.

STEP ONE

Vitamins/minerals/ antioxidants to lay the nutritional ground work:

*HHC General Vitamin( made for the protocol and good for all

genetics)

Vitamin D (I only recommend HHC brand and this would be in addition

to the amount of Vit. D in Cod Liver Oil)

Vitamin C w/rose hips ( Beyond C is dependent on genetics)

Vitamin E

Cell Food ( 2 drops only)

Bio Navitus

Liquid Selenium

Liquid Molybdenum

Liquid Zinc

Nerve Calm RNA

Health Foundation RNA

Stress RNA

Bowel RNA

Stomach RNA

Organ Support RNA

Kidney Support RNA

Ora-Adrenal

Support liver health/ increase glutathione/increase sulfur:

Rosemary

Glutathione Shampoo~Not available at this time

Glutathione toothpaste~Not available at this time

~Instead very low dose reduced glutathione (a sprinkle) or rely on

the dose in the HHC general vitamin or glutathione cream.

Dandelion root

Cod Liver Oil (every other day until genetics are known)

Ora-Liv (HHC brand)

Curcumin (cysteine to glutathione)

Supplements to aid in protection from excess calcium:

( Use natural forms of calcium only in phase one)

Magnesium Citrate

Vinpocetine

Zinc (25-40mg/day)

Supplements to aid in the balance of glutamate and GABA:(regardless

of glutamates levels on AA test)

Branched Chain Amino Acids (ONLY leu/ileu/val)

(discontinue immediately if urines smell like " maple syrup " )

Pycnogenol (I only recommend HHC brand )

Grape seed extract

GABA (*plain~recommend HHC only)

Sublingual cyanocobalamine (B12)

Sublingual hydroxycobalamine (B12)

Supplements to Support the Pancreas:

Ora-Pancreas (HHC brand)

Vitamin K

Super Digestive Enzymes-with meals

Ayur-Gymnema

CCK

Decrease yeast/repopulate GI tract? decrease E.coli and Strep:

Super Digestive enzymes- with meals

Ultra Dairy enzymes-with meals

Kyodophilus-with meals

Suprema Dophilus

Inuflora

Acidophilus

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Neem

Myrrh

Goldenseal

cranberry

Oregon grape

Barberry

Uva ursi

If a CDSA test indicates that organisms are resistant to any of these

natural herbs a substitution can be made such that the resistant

herbs in question can be replaced in the mixture with caprylic acid,

oregamax, olive extract or GSE (grapefruit seed extract).

Candex

Lactoferrin

Bio Thyro

Support to reducing Stims:

Nettle( high in natural calcium so only use small amount)

Stress RNA

IP6 ( Better form of Inositol)

Benfotiamine

Support Membrane Fluidity:

Essential Fatty Acids Mixture(EFA's)Every other day until genetics

Neuromins (DHA)Every other day until genetics

Policosanol

Aid in helping inflammation around nerves:

Health Foundation RNA

Boswellia

Curcumin

Supplements to support energy/protect the brain:

ATP

Oxydrene

Vinpocetine

Support proper sugar glycosylation/balance Zinc/Copper:

Carnosine

Vitamin K

Rosemary

EDTA (just 1x/day at this stage)

or Beyond clean Bath

Molybdenum

Supplements to support the gut:

Slippery Elm

Colostrum

Mastica Gum

Bowel RNA

Supplements to aid in Constipation:

Artichoke

Yellow Dock

Cascara Sagrada

Aloe Vera

Magnesium

Cod Liver Oil

Rhubarb

If a previous Amino Acids Test indicated high levels of Ammonia

and/or Taurine:

Yucca

Ammonia Support RNA (3 X/day)Anyone with a CBS mutation should be

using this product atleast once a day , regardless of ammonia level

Lower the protein in diet

Charcoal w/Magnesium Citrate to flush ( 2 to 3x/week)

IF YOU ARE STILL SUPPLEMENTING WITH CALCIUM, ASPARTATE BASED

SUPPLEMENTS, HIGH DOSE B6, GLUTAMINE, GLYCINE AND HIGH DOSES OF ZINC

THIS IS NOT PHASE ONE! PLEASE STUDY THE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND

WHY.

NOTE: If supplements are listed in more than one category the

intention is to take the supplements only once a day. They are listed

in each category to give a sense of the multiple uses of the

individual supplements. These supplements can be purchased through

Holistic Health Consultants (www.holisticheal.com) (HHC) and

Longevity Plus-RNA (www.longevityplus-rna.com)

_________________

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

July 29, 2006

Yes this is a great list. I did not want to throw out too much at once and only

post a few top supplements like she wanted.

Good job

pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:

Sue wrote:

> This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

forum. This is to strenghten some body systems.

Hello Sue,

I just spent an hour of my time reading at the forum. (I am probably

a forum idiot.) What I found eventually is a list for beginners

treating autistic children. This list is formidable and much longer

than a top ten. I think I will go back to trying to find MSH for sale

in China - just kidding, but that is more likely to happen for me

than figuring out or affording this protocol(s).

Here is Amy's beginning list.

STEP ONE

Vitamins/minerals/ antioxidants to lay the nutritional ground work:

*HHC General Vitamin( made for the protocol and good for all

genetics)

Vitamin D (I only recommend HHC brand and this would be in addition

to the amount of Vit. D in Cod Liver Oil)

Vitamin C w/rose hips ( Beyond C is dependent on genetics)

Vitamin E

Cell Food ( 2 drops only)

Bio Navitus

Liquid Selenium

Liquid Molybdenum

Liquid Zinc

Nerve Calm RNA

Health Foundation RNA

Stress RNA

Bowel RNA

Stomach RNA

Organ Support RNA

Kidney Support RNA

Ora-Adrenal

Support liver health/ increase glutathione/increase sulfur:

Rosemary

Glutathione Shampoo~Not available at this time

Glutathione toothpaste~Not available at this time

~Instead very low dose reduced glutathione (a sprinkle) or rely on

the dose in the HHC general vitamin or glutathione cream.

Dandelion root

Cod Liver Oil (every other day until genetics are known)

Ora-Liv (HHC brand)

Curcumin (cysteine to glutathione)

Supplements to aid in protection from excess calcium:

( Use natural forms of calcium only in phase one)

Magnesium Citrate

Vinpocetine

Zinc (25-40mg/day)

Supplements to aid in the balance of glutamate and GABA:(regardless

of glutamates levels on AA test)

Branched Chain Amino Acids (ONLY leu/ileu/val)

(discontinue immediately if urines smell like " maple syrup " )

Pycnogenol (I only recommend HHC brand )

Grape seed extract

GABA (*plain~recommend HHC only)

Sublingual cyanocobalamine (B12)

Sublingual hydroxycobalamine (B12)

Supplements to Support the Pancreas:

Ora-Pancreas (HHC brand)

Vitamin K

Super Digestive Enzymes-with meals

Ayur-Gymnema

CCK

Decrease yeast/repopulate GI tract? decrease E.coli and Strep:

Super Digestive enzymes- with meals

Ultra Dairy enzymes-with meals

Kyodophilus-with meals

Suprema Dophilus

Inuflora

Acidophilus

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Neem

Myrrh

Goldenseal

cranberry

Oregon grape

Barberry

Uva ursi

If a CDSA test indicates that organisms are resistant to any of these

natural herbs a substitution can be made such that the resistant

herbs in question can be replaced in the mixture with caprylic acid,

oregamax, olive extract or GSE (grapefruit seed extract).

Candex

Lactoferrin

Bio Thyro

Support to reducing Stims:

Nettle( high in natural calcium so only use small amount)

Stress RNA

IP6 ( Better form of Inositol)

Benfotiamine

Support Membrane Fluidity:

Essential Fatty Acids Mixture(EFA's)Every other day until genetics

Neuromins (DHA)Every other day until genetics

Policosanol

Aid in helping inflammation around nerves:

Health Foundation RNA

Boswellia

Curcumin

Supplements to support energy/protect the brain:

ATP

Oxydrene

Vinpocetine

Support proper sugar glycosylation/balance Zinc/Copper:

Carnosine

Vitamin K

Rosemary

EDTA (just 1x/day at this stage)

or Beyond clean Bath

Molybdenum

Supplements to support the gut:

Slippery Elm

Colostrum

Mastica Gum

Bowel RNA

Supplements to aid in Constipation:

Artichoke

Yellow Dock

Cascara Sagrada

Aloe Vera

Magnesium

Cod Liver Oil

Rhubarb

If a previous Amino Acids Test indicated high levels of Ammonia

and/or Taurine:

Yucca

Ammonia Support RNA (3 X/day)Anyone with a CBS mutation should be

using this product atleast once a day , regardless of ammonia level

Lower the protein in diet

Charcoal w/Magnesium Citrate to flush ( 2 to 3x/week)

IF YOU ARE STILL SUPPLEMENTING WITH CALCIUM, ASPARTATE BASED

SUPPLEMENTS, HIGH DOSE B6, GLUTAMINE, GLYCINE AND HIGH DOSES OF ZINC

THIS IS NOT PHASE ONE! PLEASE STUDY THE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND

WHY.

NOTE: If supplements are listed in more than one category the

intention is to take the supplements only once a day. They are listed

in each category to give a sense of the multiple uses of the

individual supplements. These supplements can be purchased through

Holistic Health Consultants (www.holisticheal.com) (HHC) and

Longevity Plus-RNA (www.longevityplus-rna.com)

_________________

July 29, 2006

Adrienne wrote:

" That doesn't mean this approach is worthless. "

a replies:

No,it's not worthless, it's very expensive, both in time and money.

I'm all for supplements and herbs. I just want someone else to do the

homework for me and break it down. Ive done this for years for other

patients, and I don't feel like investing thousands of dollars and days of

time on esoteric lab tests to find out I need to take whey protein

concentrate and selenium. Many of us have been taking a large number of

products on Yasko's basic list for years. Hey, I don't think any of us who

followed Garth Nicolson's protocol ever just took antibiotics, nor did he

recommend just antibiotics. I think I have been taking ImmunePro or

Immunocal for about 8 years now.

So I am looking for a dog's version of Yasko's protocol. Woof, woof.

July 29, 2006

Hi, Adrienne.

That's correct. I've heard her say that explicitly on her DVDs. She

relies on the autism parents to choose what they are going to use

from her lists, depending on what seems to work for their particular

child, considering allergies and sensitivities, and also, frankly,

on the size of their wallets!

Rich

>

> Thanks for posting that. When you get down to aids for

constipation, there are seven supplements listed. I am presuming she

does not think we need all seven. So, for now, I am inferring that

she is NOT recommending, under each heading, that we take everything

in the list. Could anyone who actually knows please comment on this?

> Adrienne

July 29, 2006

Hi Jill,

>>>I don't think this work deserves such skepticism.<<<<

But, tHere's hardly any skepticism at all. This work is totally dominating the

list and being heavily promoted as " the answer " " the cure " , etc, at

considerable expense.

This group has a long history of scepticism at such a time, of which there have

been hundreds.

The top ME/CFS Scientists of the world for 20 years have gotten far more

scrutiny, and their long term patients, who have graciously shared their

progress, at times have met far more scepticism!

We usually spend more time on any person's background, the reliability of

tests, theories, and the labs being used. With much more specific information of

patients being helped. Questions have been asked and not answered about what

symptoms were helped by what treatments.

Genetic testing and treatment is new and controversial, even among Geneticists.

And so are the labs.

For many, more thought goes into having their genes tested and on record.

I think most of us have interest in this work, but we get to do our own

thinking, taking as much time as we want.

For those who choose to go through this program, explain it and share with the

other members the benefits, (or problems), I imagine it will be appreciated as

is usually the case.

We don't all have the same illnesses and extra cognitive efforts are hallmark

of CFS. A number of patients have said they are overwhelmed and boggled right

now by this list's volume and content.

I've never seen it quite so manic here, as lately.

Plus,it's been extra frustrating because 's been screwing up alot of posts.

{Rich also stated that he's not sure his theories would apply to viral, epidemic

CFS, of which many of us are.}

We have over 2,000 members, 1,000+ good studies on CFS alone, plus thousands of

other topics people are or want to pursue.

There is nothing wrong with questioning, especially something that is dominating

the list.

That's how we've learned so much here!

I sure hope the program helps you,

Best wishes,

Katrina

> >

> > Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try

> to read

> > more to educate myself.

> >

> > Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous,

> because I

> > think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune

> suppressing.

> > I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population

> would be

> > genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what

> supplements they

> > were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where, over

> > time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

> >

> > But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

> >

> > a

> >

> > HI a,

> >

> > This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

> forum. This

> > is to strenghten some body systems.

> > THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so

> ever.

> >

> > Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can

> only point

> > you in the right direction.

> > www.autsimanswer.com/forum

> > Best wishes, Sue

> >

> > Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

> >

> > Super Digestive enzymes

> > OraAdrenal

> > ImmunoForte

> > OraKidney

> > Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

> > GABA

> > Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

> > Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

> > Magnesium

> > Zinc

> >

July 29, 2006

Hi there, I was specifically answering a's posts.

> > >

> > > Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try

> > to read

> > > more to educate myself.

> > >

> > > Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous,

> > because I

> > > think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune

> > suppressing.

> > > I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population

> > would be

> > > genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what

> > supplements they

> > > were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes

where, over

> > > time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more

pathogens.

> > >

> > > But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

> > >

> > > a

> > >

> > > HI a,

> > >

> > > This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

> > forum. This

> > > is to strenghten some body systems.

> > > THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so

> > ever.

> > >

> > > Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can

> > only point

> > > you in the right direction.

> > > www.autsimanswer.com/forum

> > > Best wishes, Sue

> > >

> > > Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

> > >

> > > Super Digestive enzymes

> > > OraAdrenal

> > > ImmunoForte

> > > OraKidney

> > > Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

> > > GABA

> > > Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

> > > Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

> > > Magnesium

> > > Zinc

> > >

July 29, 2006

Re: Short list of Yasko's treatments

a, you are right and you are wrong.

Yes the infections are bad. I know that firsthand from how horrible

the tickbite 6 years ago made me feel, overnight. Clear, schmear ;.

The symptoms were global and unbelievable. My inflammatory response

was extreme, my antibodies sky high, and I couldn't 'clear' it.

OTOH, there are other ways to clear infections than antibiotics. Thus

the sanitoriums for tuberculosis--something about UV light had an

effect on the bug.

And I'm not sure, whether Yasko simly advocates no antibiotics. I do

know that Garry Gordon advocates alernative methods of clearing

infections (UVB, ozone, etc). Dan! doctors make clear that the kids'

strep and fungal infections need to be treated, for instance. Boyd

Haley asks, why do your kisd have so many infections? Because from da

one they're given these vaccines, on a punishing schedule, and with

mercury in them (or previously, with mercury in them.) He explains

what mercury does to cripple the immune and nervous system.

One way to stop abug is to stop or neutralize the toxins it

generates. They are working on this in regards to anthrax, at the NIH.

Another way to neutralize a bug might to stop it from hijacking a

body's cascade.

She isn't claiming to cure AIDS< and why should she?

I don't think this work deserves such skepticism. It's great work and

is not necessarily 'against' antibiotics. And anyway, this list is

supposed to be presented good theoretical or practical information.

It's not supposed to be a place where someone keeps piping in to say

how skeptical they are.

Please present information that is useful. Thanx.

>

> Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try

to read

> more to educate myself.

>

> Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous,

because I

> think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune

suppressing.

> I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population

would be

> genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what

supplements they

> were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where, over

> time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

>

> But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

>

> a

>

> HI a,

>

> This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

forum. This

> is to strenghten some body systems.

> THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so

ever.

>

> Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can

only point

> you in the right direction.

> www.autsimanswer.com/forum

> Best wishes, Sue

>

> Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

>

> Super Digestive enzymes

> OraAdrenal

> ImmunoForte

> OraKidney

> Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

> GABA

> Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

> Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

> Magnesium

> Zinc

>

July 29, 2006

I think informed skepticism is useful, informative, input. Rich keeps saying he

is " hopeful, " that something like a major subset can break loose, that maybe

this is a key -for the majority of us. As I implied earlier, even if this works

for a majority of us, doesn't mean it will work for all. And even if it only

works for a small subset, well yay. Maybe it is another dead end. Maybe it is

wishful thinking on the part of the scientists?

What each of us does about this POSSIBILITY is up to us. Maybe we ought not to

be either urging others forward nor trying to discourage others. We don't need

advocacy as much as we do information.

Adrienne

Re: Short list of Yasko's treatments

a, you are right and you are wrong.

Yes the infections are bad. I know that firsthand from how horrible

the tickbite 6 years ago made me feel, overnight. Clear, schmear ;.

The symptoms were global and unbelievable. My inflammatory response

was extreme, my antibodies sky high, and I couldn't 'clear' it.

OTOH, there are other ways to clear infections than antibiotics. Thus

the sanitoriums for tuberculosis--something about UV light had an

effect on the bug.

And I'm not sure, whether Yasko simly advocates no antibiotics. I do

know that Garry Gordon advocates alernative methods of clearing

infections (UVB, ozone, etc). Dan! doctors make clear that the kids'

strep and fungal infections need to be treated, for instance. Boyd

Haley asks, why do your kisd have so many infections? Because from da

one they're given these vaccines, on a punishing schedule, and with

mercury in them (or previously, with mercury in them.) He explains

what mercury does to cripple the immune and nervous system.

One way to stop abug is to stop or neutralize the toxins it

generates. They are working on this in regards to anthrax, at the NIH.

Another way to neutralize a bug might to stop it from hijacking a

body's cascade.

She isn't claiming to cure AIDS< and why should she?

I don't think this work deserves such skepticism. It's great work and

is not necessarily 'against' antibiotics. And anyway, this list is

supposed to be presented good theoretical or practical information.

It's not supposed to be a place where someone keeps piping in to say

how skeptical they are.

Please present information that is useful. Thanx.

>

> Thanks, Sue, for the list. I am joining the forum now and will try

to read

> more to educate myself.

>

> Has she claimed to turn an AIDS case around? I remain incredulous,

because I

> think the infections many of us have are very severe and immune

suppressing.

> I tend to think that a very large portion of the earth's population

would be

> genetically unable to clear these infections no matter what

supplements they

> were given, especially in cases like Dr. Nicolson describes where, over

> time, the patient just becomes infected with more and more pathogens.

>

> But I will give this information as open minded thought as I can.

>

> a

>

> HI a,

>

> This is Dr. Amy first top ten . . It is easy to find this on the

forum. This

> is to strenghten some body systems.

> THere is no financial advantage for me to support Dr. Yasko what so

ever.

>

> Everyone PLease realize I can not figure out what you need. I can

only point

> you in the right direction.

> www.autsimanswer.com/forum

> Best wishes, Sue

>

> Aside from the HHC general vitamin and RNAs

>

> Super Digestive enzymes

> OraAdrenal

> ImmunoForte

> OraKidney

> Milk Thistle (although this is in the general vitamin)

> GABA

> Branched chain amino acids (as long as no maple syrup smell)

> Pycnogenol (even though it is in the general vitamin)

> Magnesium

> Zinc

>

July 29, 2006

Woof back at'cha! I understand. I am not marching up to the front of the line

either. Haven't the means to.