Re: Re: Ammonia/Hair Color/CFS

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On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:33 PM, tloyd61275 wrote:

> Okay this off topic. But is this good for covering gray?

>

>> I can tell you exactly where to go for an excellent product.

> It's called Herbatint 1-877-699-4400 to get a catalogue. I order

> from VNF Nutrition at 1-800-681-7099. Product arrives usps in 2-3

> days. It's quality stuff, says right on the box " contains no

> ammonia " . Great color choices.

Another non-ammonia product, often sold at the same places that sell

Herbatint, is Naturcolor. Whole Foods carries it.

I've used both, and am pretty happy with the way it covers the hard

white grays at my temples. (And I go fire red.) But I prefer the

Naturcolor when I can get it.

Sara

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Hey Jill, try checking out the Herbatint. You might like it. Good Luck.

jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote: I am about to switch to a

natural haircolor, too. I switched to all

natural makeup--very nice stuff--from realpurity. Nice lipsticks,

foundation and eyeshadows.

I

> > HI All,

> >

> > I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

> hair

> > color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

> > made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

> >

> > Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

> > function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

> would

> > of never been able to put it together.

> >

> > I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

> not

> > been a fun trip!

> >

> > Janet

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[Guest guest]

Absolutely! Every molecule of it.

tloyd61275 <cultureshift@...> wrote: Okay this off topic. But is

this good for covering gray?

> I can tell you exactly where to go for an excellent product.

It's called Herbatint 1-877-699-4400 to get a catalogue. I order

from VNF Nutrition at 1-800-681-7099. Product arrives usps in 2-3

days. It's quality stuff, says right on the box " contains no

ammonia " . Great color choices.

>

> alwaysacutie2u <jgstev716@...> wrote:

> HI All,

>

> I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

hair

> color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

> made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

>

> Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

> function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

would

> of never been able to put it together.

>

> I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

not

> been a fun trip!

>

> Janet

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Also the conditioner they provide in the box is very good, too. I think the

vanity is hard wired! It's the exception and not the rule for people to not

care about the way they look. And we're clean, too. My mother says I'm the

cleanest sick person she's ever known. But doesn't it feel better to be in a

clean and nice environment even if you feel like sh---. And off topic just for

kicks, do you all know where that saying originated? It was when manure was

transported by sea and below decks would stink and rot from water so the bags

were stamped S.H.I.T. Ship High In Transit.

rosebud1082001 <ganesh1008@...> wrote: I've been using

Herbatint permanent hair color for a long time. It

also has no scent. The " commercial " hair colors had me gagging. I'm

sensitive to cheap perfume. Anyway, no discernable side effects. The

colors seem to be pretty much as represented. You do have to use the

" N " series - at least 50% to get permanent coverage. Then you can mix

in the other " C " or whatever. I don't remember if Herbatint tells you

that or if my hairdresser told me. And yes, it does cover gray. My

hair is totally white in spots and it covers it. I do a Froggle search

and buy it from whoever is cheapest.

Here we are, almost dead, and still vain :-).

Michele G

> > HI All,

> >

> > I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

> hair

> > color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

> > made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

> >

> > Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

> > function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

> would

> > of never been able to put it together.

> >

> > I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

> not

> > been a fun trip!

> >

> > Janet

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

and all the ladies that helped me with this:

THANK YOU!!!

Also I needed a laugh this morning! " Here we are, almost dead, and still vain "

!!! Loved it!!

Janet

rosebud1082001 <ganesh1008@...> wrote:

I've been using Herbatint permanent hair color for a long time. It

also has no scent. The " commercial " hair colors had me gagging. I'm

sensitive to cheap perfume. Anyway, no discernable side effects. The

colors seem to be pretty much as represented. You do have to use the

" N " series - at least 50% to get permanent coverage. Then you can mix

in the other " C " or whatever. I don't remember if Herbatint tells you

that or if my hairdresser told me. And yes, it does cover gray. My

hair is totally white in spots and it covers it. I do a Froggle search

and buy it from whoever is cheapest.

Here we are, almost dead, and still vain :-).

Michele G

> > HI All,

> >

> > I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

> hair

> > color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

> > made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

> >

> > Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

> > function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

> would

> > of never been able to put it together.

> >

> > I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

> not

> > been a fun trip!

> >

> > Janet

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry, beg to differ. I've tried every 'natural' permanent colour on

the market and they don't cover my grey and I don't have much of it!

Rosie

Absolutely! Every molecule of it.

tloyd61275 <cultureshift@ <mailto:cultureshift%40mchsi.com> mchsi.com>

wrote: Okay this off topic. But is this good for covering gray?

> I can tell you exactly where to go for an excellent product.

It's called Herbatint 1-877-699-4400 to get a catalogue. I order

from VNF Nutrition at 1-800-681-7099. Product arrives usps in 2-3

days. It's quality stuff, says right on the box " contains no

ammonia " . Great color choices.

>

> alwaysacutie2u <jgstev716@...> wrote:

> HI All,

>

> I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

hair

> color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

> made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

>

> Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

> function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

would

> of never been able to put it together.

>

> I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

not

> been a fun trip!

>

> Janet

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Darn. So sorry Rosie. You must have some very " right to life " gray ones. I

have a million of them and the herbatint covers every single one. Wish it

worked for you,too!!

Rosie <rosiecox@...> wrote: Sorry, beg to differ. I've

tried every 'natural' permanent colour on

the market and they don't cover my grey and I don't have much of it!

Rosie

Absolutely! Every molecule of it.

tloyd61275 <cultureshift@ <mailto:cultureshift%40mchsi.com> mchsi.com>

wrote: Okay this off topic. But is this good for covering gray?

> I can tell you exactly where to go for an excellent product.

It's called Herbatint 1-877-699-4400 to get a catalogue. I order

from VNF Nutrition at 1-800-681-7099. Product arrives usps in 2-3

days. It's quality stuff, says right on the box " contains no

ammonia " . Great color choices.

>

> alwaysacutie2u <jgstev716@...> wrote:

> HI All,

>

> I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

hair

> color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

> made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

>

> Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

> function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

would

> of never been able to put it together.

>

> I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

not

> been a fun trip!

>

> Janet

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I use Naturecolor, it's wonderful. I mix 4 colors together to get the

color I want. I do it myself at home. Joanee

jill1313 wrote:

>Some people have very resistant grey, and they need to keep the color

>on for at least 45 minutes.

>My hair salon--I used framesi for years--a wonderful Italian haircolor

>but its starting to smell worse and worse (i.e. it isn't as nontoxic

>as it used to be). I insisted to my colorist to use 15% peroxide as

>its less drying to the hair. She keeps it on for 45 minutes.

>

>Now I'm going to try naturcolor. I can't quite replicate my colorist's

>formula but close enough I hope. I'll bring the 15% peroxide or ask

>them to use that if they have it (you can buy it--only framesi makes

>that percentage, I think).

>

>My colorist just raised her prices anyway, or the salon did, without

>telling me. It's $75 plus tax and tip, and you have to tip the shampoo

>person too. There is a woman I heard about in my neihborhood who only

>charges $22 for color. Unbelievable. Apparently she's been there for

>years and has low rent and it's word of mouth (basement storefront).

>Hope it works out as yes, all is vanity, but color can get expensive

>as the grey starts to show within a few weeks.

>

>

>>>HI All,

>>>

>>>I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

>>>

>>>

>>hair

>>

>>

>>>color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

>>>made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

>>>

>>>Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

>>>function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

>>>

>>>

>>would

>>

>>

>>>of never been able to put it together.

>>>

>>>I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

>>>

>>>

>>not

>>

>>

>>>been a fun trip!

>>>

>>>Janet

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI Joanee,

Can you help me here?? I also do my hair at home. Do I subitute the 20%

peroide for the developer??? I am going to try and get ahold of the Naturecolor.

Where does one get that????

Thank you for your help,

Janet

Joanee Webb <joanee@...> wrote:

Hi I use Naturecolor, it's wonderful. I mix 4 colors together to get

the

color I want. I do it myself at home. Joanee

jill1313 wrote:

>Some people have very resistant grey, and they need to keep the color

>on for at least 45 minutes.

>My hair salon--I used framesi for years--a wonderful Italian haircolor

>but its starting to smell worse and worse (i.e. it isn't as nontoxic

>as it used to be). I insisted to my colorist to use 15% peroxide as

>its less drying to the hair. She keeps it on for 45 minutes.

>

>Now I'm going to try naturcolor. I can't quite replicate my colorist's

>formula but close enough I hope. I'll bring the 15% peroxide or ask

>them to use that if they have it (you can buy it--only framesi makes

>that percentage, I think).

>

>My colorist just raised her prices anyway, or the salon did, without

>telling me. It's $75 plus tax and tip, and you have to tip the shampoo

>person too. There is a woman I heard about in my neihborhood who only

>charges $22 for color. Unbelievable. Apparently she's been there for

>years and has low rent and it's word of mouth (basement storefront).

>Hope it works out as yes, all is vanity, but color can get expensive

>as the grey starts to show within a few weeks.

>

>

>>>HI All,

>>>

>>>I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

>>>

>>>

>>hair

>>

>>

>>>color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

>>>made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

>>>

>>>Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

>>>function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

>>>

>>>

>>would

>>

>>

>>>of never been able to put it together.

>>>

>>>I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

>>>

>>>

>>not

>>

>>

>>>been a fun trip!

>>>

>>>Janet

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi janet, You can get it at Whole Foods, but phone first and see if the

local store has it, I guess the La Jolla one would probably have it. If

not, call Naturecolor @ 800-462-0666, say you are a hair stylist and

open an account, Joanee

Janet s wrote:

>HI Joanee,

>

> Can you help me here?? I also do my hair at home. Do I subitute the 20%

peroide for the developer??? I am going to try and get ahold of the Naturecolor.

Where does one get that????

>

> Thank you for your help,

>

> Janet

>

>Joanee Webb <joanee@...> wrote:

> Hi I use Naturecolor, it's wonderful. I mix 4 colors together to get

the

>color I want. I do it myself at home. Joanee

>jill1313 wrote:

>

>

>

>>Some people have very resistant grey, and they need to keep the color

>>on for at least 45 minutes.

>>My hair salon--I used framesi for years--a wonderful Italian haircolor

>>but its starting to smell worse and worse (i.e. it isn't as nontoxic

>>as it used to be). I insisted to my colorist to use 15% peroxide as

>>its less drying to the hair. She keeps it on for 45 minutes.

>>

>>Now I'm going to try naturcolor. I can't quite replicate my colorist's

>>formula but close enough I hope. I'll bring the 15% peroxide or ask

>>them to use that if they have it (you can buy it--only framesi makes

>>that percentage, I think).

>>

>>My colorist just raised her prices anyway, or the salon did, without

>>telling me. It's $75 plus tax and tip, and you have to tip the shampoo

>>person too. There is a woman I heard about in my neihborhood who only

>>charges $22 for color. Unbelievable. Apparently she's been there for

>>years and has low rent and it's word of mouth (basement storefront).

>>Hope it works out as yes, all is vanity, but color can get expensive

>>as the grey starts to show within a few weeks.

>>

>>

>>>>HI All,

>>>>

>>>>I have used hair color for years and last night I noticed that my

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>hair

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>color read: " Low ammonia " Since I have the CBS upregulaed gene, it

>>>>made me think twice, but I went ahead anyway.

>>>>

>>>>Today I feel like I have been hit on the head and I can barely

>>>>function!!! If I didn't have a clue about my ammonia status I

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>would

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>of never been able to put it together.

>>>>

>>>>I am going to look for a product without ammonia, but today has

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>not

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>been a fun trip!

>>>>

>>>>Janet

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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