Re: Has anyone found anything to help energy???

[Guest guest]

" I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

Sue "

Before i answer what supplements are you taking on daily basis??

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

Sue

I have a collection of things that, combined, give me energy. The most recent

ones, products from Neuroscienceinc.com, recommended after their urine test,

interpreted by my chiropractor, are causing me to use less of the rest:

D,l-phenylalanine

homeopathic growth hormone.

tincture of St. 's Wort Herbs Etc.

pituitrophin PMG (extract) by Standard Process

Propax with NT Factor a special multivitamin " plus "

Vitamin c and b12 injections contribute some.

a very little bit of sublingual DHEA

and green tea, but not quite daily, and only one cup.

The main problem I have with energy is not yet being able to manage all this

stuff in a way that I do not feel very empty/ withdrawing in the evenings. If I

took enough to avoid that feeling, I would never get to sleep.

Adrienne

Has anyone found anything to help energy???

I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

Sue

[Guest guest]

One thing I am certain that helps in such cases is minimising my functioning

level.Getting fresh air,good food and resting. No other thing helped me. oh.

Of course you may try natural or synthetic cortisone.

best wishes.

Nil

Re: Has anyone found anything to help energy???

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> " I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

> extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

> something like Adderall? Thank you!

> Sue "

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> Before i answer what supplements are you taking on daily basis??

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> Regards

> CS

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[Guest guest]

Sue,

DHEA/pregenelone

Gena

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> " I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do

> anything. I am

> extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help???

> How about

> something like Adderall? Thank you!

> Sue "

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> Before i answer what supplements are you taking on

> daily basis??

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> Regards

> CS

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[Guest guest]

CS,

I'm taking a multi-vitamin, B-50, Cal/Mag/Zinc, Potassium and extra D.

Sue

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>

> " I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

> extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

> something like Adderall? Thank you!

> Sue "

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>

> Before i answer what supplements are you taking on daily basis??

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>

> Regards

> CS

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[Guest guest]

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

This is very interesting. I was on a salt/C online group for a while. I

haven't started the protocol yet, but as I understand it, it's for lyme and

co-infections. Someone in that group mentioned that humans on the whole used to

consume far more salt than they do now and that it's a natural antibiotic.

Remember salted foods for preservation? And it's common knowledge animals will

travel great distances to lick salt. We had horses and always! had salt licks

for them and even put them out for wild animals. Are we in some trouble now due

to the fad of low salt diets? Hmmm. Something to think about.

Kurt R <kurt@...> wrote: Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I

can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

Kurt,

How do you get the Salt/C in??? Is IV the only way????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@...> wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I use L-Carnitine 2 grams, Fibrovive by Thorne (if you don't have a problem

with NAC its great!) Maca, Vinpocetine, Acetyl L-Carnitine, DHEA, sublingual,

ATP sublingual, B-12, small amounts of Creatine, Ribose (small amount) NT factor

and Oxedrene. I could barely talk/function before. Helped alot!

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@...> wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

No, you take it by mouth.

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote: Kurt,

How do you get the Salt/C in??? Is IV the only way????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@...> wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

Edy,

Is it a product or ????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

No, you take it by mouth.

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote: Kurt,

How do you get the Salt/C in??? Is IV the only way????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@...> wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

Recuperation - first thing that has helped me increase energy in years. I

have mycoplasma and borrelia infections. Also Recuperation seemed to help my

orthostatic intolerance, but way beyond just taking extra salt. I've done a

lot of antibiotics and many supplements for the mycoplasma and Lyme but this

is the only thing that has helped restore normal energy. I hope to start the

salt/C protocol soon. (I have also taken injected synthetic growth hormone

for years and thyroid meds - still Recup is it for me.

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Adrienne G. wrote:

> homeopathic growth hormone.

Well, now, THIS sounds interesting. My tests at FFC found that I was

very low in HGH, but I didn't want to spend the $300/month for the

nasty daily injections (on top of the GSH shots, no).

But this might be a viable (and cheaper?) alternative....

So -- what can you tell us about it? Thanks.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Thank you, a! What is Salt/C?

Sue

>

> Recuperation - first thing that has helped me increase energy in

years. I

> have mycoplasma and borrelia infections. Also Recuperation seemed to

help my

> orthostatic intolerance, but way beyond just taking extra salt. I've

done a

[Guest guest]

Same for me

Recup has made a big difference

A lot of my dizziness has gone and my crashes last days instead of months

Also aches and muscle pain is lower

I still cannot excercise in anyway

Thanks

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of a Carnes

Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 9:28 AM

Subject: Re: Has anyone found anything to help energy???

Recuperation - first thing that has helped me increase energy in years. I

have mycoplasma and borrelia infections. Also Recuperation seemed to help my

orthostatic intolerance, but way beyond just taking extra salt. I've done a

lot of antibiotics and many supplements for the mycoplasma and Lyme but this

is the only thing that has helped restore normal energy. I hope to start the

salt/C protocol soon. (I have also taken injected synthetic growth hormone

for years and thyroid meds - still Recup is it for me.

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

I second the recommendation on l-carnitine. Do a google search and you'll turn

up lots of

benefits with circulation, liver function, energy, etc..

Also check to see if you're getting enough protein. Carbs will often put one to

sleep,

which is why many recommend to not eat too much protein later at night -- you

may be

awake or tossing and turning all night...

d.

> Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I

am

> extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

> something like Adderall? Thank you!

>

> I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

> With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

> before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

> (at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

> out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

> environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

> Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

> jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

> added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

> energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

> reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

> distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

> measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

> work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

> In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

> factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

> is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

> experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

> will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

> cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

> serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

> among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

> addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

> bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

> system, and supports the adrenal gland.

> --Kurt

> www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Janet,

Actually that is probably a great way, using IV, but not necessary.

Oral is fine, just have to take a bit more.

--Kurt

RE: Has anyone found anything to help

energy???

Kurt,

How do you get the Salt/C in??? Is IV the only way????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@... <mailto:kurt%40isrd.com> > wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtspro

<http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/> tocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

> extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

> something like Adderall? Thank you!

> Sue

>

Hi Sue,

L-Carnitine helps energy, it works well and quickly. I use one

250mg a day.

A research study on CFS patients found that CFS paients have low

carnitine levels, see immunesupport.com for that report.

Al

[Guest guest]

I have been surprised in the last two months to find my energy being sparked

by NADH, which I'd found ineffective in the past. I happened to came across

a low-priced brand at iHerb, something like $15 for 30 10 MG., sublinguals.

So I ordered it. The sublingual 10 MGs I had used in the past were soft

oblong pink tablets, but these were quite compressed and rather spherical.

They take a much longer time to dissolve. Anyhow, I get a delayed

reaction-1-2 hours-with a spurt of energy that goes a few hours. I don't

notice " paying a price " with an ensuing burn-out crash-just back to my usual

state.

Anyway, it's something where you find out right away (first or second try)

if it's doing any good.

--

[Guest guest]

Kurt,

I went on your blog and tried to figure out the Salt/C protocoll. I was doing

ok, figuring it was 12 grams of salt and 12 grams of Vit C until I got to the

part about Salt pills. Pills??? Is the salt taken as regular salt or salt pills.

Could you clarify for me.

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@...> wrote:

Janet,

Actually that is probably a great way, using IV, but not necessary.

Oral is fine, just have to take a bit more.

--Kurt

RE: Has anyone found anything to help

energy???

Kurt,

How do you get the Salt/C in??? Is IV the only way????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@... <mailto:kurt%40isrd.com> > wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtspro

<http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/> tocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

Janet, Try lymephotos.com. It'll tell you all about the salt/C protocol.

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote: Kurt,

I went on your blog and tried to figure out the Salt/C protocoll. I was doing

ok, figuring it was 12 grams of salt and 12 grams of Vit C until I got to the

part about Salt pills. Pills??? Is the salt taken as regular salt or salt pills.

Could you clarify for me.

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@...> wrote:

Janet,

Actually that is probably a great way, using IV, but not necessary.

Oral is fine, just have to take a bit more.

--Kurt

RE: Has anyone found anything to help

energy???

Kurt,

How do you get the Salt/C in??? Is IV the only way????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@... <mailto:kurt%40isrd.com> > wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtspro

<http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/> tocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

Janet,

Either CMC salt tablets or natural unprocessed sea salt seems to work.

Most people experiment a bit to find out what works best for them.

Personally I like RealSalt, but do still take the tablets sometimes.

They are far more convenient when away from the house. Other brands of

salt tablets do not seem to work as well, the CMC is designed for

medical use, so probably processed at a lower temp, without additives.

--Kurt

RE: Has anyone found anything to help

energy???

Kurt,

How do you get the Salt/C in??? Is IV the only way????

Thank you,

Janet

in San Diego

Kurt R <kurt@... <mailto:kurt%40isrd.com> <mailto:kurt%40isrd.com>

> wrote:

Sue>> I have so little energy anymore. I can barely do anything. I am

extremely weak. Has anyone found anything to help??? How about

something like Adderall? Thank you!

I use Salt/C and on bad days add licorice or other adrenal support.

With out Salt/c I am bedridden within 4-5 days, which is how I was

before I started using it. With Salt/C I can work a few hours each day

(at home), spend time with the family at the neighborhood swim pool, go

out for an hour or two a few times a week, tolerate chemicals and

environmental allergens better, have better digestion, etc. Before

Salt/C I would say my energy level was 10% of pre-CFS. With Salt/C I

jumped up to about 30% of my old self, which was huge. I have also

added EMF blocking and gentle herbal cleansing and that pushed my

energy level up to around 50%, plus some of my worst problems are

reversing, including severe muscle wasting. Also I can drive short

distances again and also walk small distances, pre salt/c and the other

measures I was restricted to walking about 75 meters in a day, could not

work, could not focus enough to drive, and was in a downward spiral.

In my experience CFS is multi-factorial, and every time you find a

factor and treat it you get just a little more help. So the challenge

is to find your personal factors and work on them. Salt/C is in my

experience one of the best treatments for CFS. That does not mean it

will work for everyone, but for some people it approaches cure. It is

cheap, and it is also a multi-factorial therapy in the sense that it

serves many functions, depending on how you use it. I believe that

among other things it helps glutathione status, lowers dysbiosis,

addresses sodium channel problems we have due to neurotoxins, kills some

bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and possibly also in the lymphatic

system, and supports the adrenal gland.

--Kurt

www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtspro

<http://www.kurtspro <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>

tocol.blogspot.com/> tocol.blogspot.com/>

[Guest guest]

Sara wrote: was

very low in HGH, but I didn't want to spend the $300/month for the

nasty daily injections (on top of the GSH shots, no).

Please don't perpetuate the myth that the daily injections are

'nasty' - the needle is very small and short - as thin as a hair or

electrolysis needle. The point of injection is anywhere you can

'pinch a little fat' (easy for most of us) and there are few nerve

endings exposed when you do this, the needle only goes in maybe 3/4 "

at most and the amount injected is so tiny it doesn't change the

surface of the skin at all. I sued to be the worst when it ame to

needles, but to call these 'nasty' is to call a mosquito bite

'brutal', as -that- itches and swells unlike a growth hormone shot.

[Guest guest]

On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:53 AM, H. Wish wrote:

>

> Sara wrote: was

> very low in HGH, but I didn't want to spend the $300/month for the

> nasty daily injections (on top of the GSH shots, no).

> Please don't perpetuate the myth that the daily injections are

> 'nasty' - the needle is very small and short - as thin as a hair or

> electrolysis needle. The point of injection is anywhere you can

> 'pinch a little fat' (easy for most of us) and there are few nerve

> endings exposed when you do this, the needle only goes in maybe 3/4 "

> at most and the amount injected is so tiny it doesn't change the

> surface of the skin at all. I sued to be the worst when it ame to

> needles, but to call these 'nasty' is to call a mosquito bite

> 'brutal', as -that- itches and swells unlike a growth hormone shot.

>

Well, that's good to hear. My GSH shots definitely qualify as full-

blown nasty, with two-inch needles that have made a pincushion of my

nether quarters. While the effect is good enough to make them worth

enduring, I wish I could say they were mere mosquito bites.

Still, Dr. T wasn't eager to push me in the HGH direction, and I was

eager enough not to go there. Maybe sometime in the future we'll

discuss it again, but not now -- not as long as all this other stuff

is doing so well for me.

I'm glad to hear from someone who's tried it and gotten a good

result, though. This is a hugely popular and very controversial

therapy for non-PWCs, and I've wondered what it might do for us.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Growth hormone shots are easy - use a little short subdermal needle in the

stomach or thigh. I wouldn't take injected synthetic growth hormone without

the testing and oversight of a knowledgeable endocrinologist. That way you

also have a good chance of insurance covering the cost.

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