Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 I found this to be very interesting. I just started taking the EM and Fulvic that she talks about. http://www.naturalhealthdetective.com/ The Natural Health Detective Combating Consumer Confusion with Clarity and ConscienceNatural Health Consumer turned Industry Insider Reveals Hidden TruthsConcerning Systemic Candidiasis and Healing I am a person that has fought the battle with candida albicans overgrowth for 20 years. This past year I set out to really understand the products on the market for this condition. I asked a lot of questions and did the research to find the answers. I even found information that I had not intended to, which often leads to the best discoveries. I have much to write about and still more answers to uncover, however I do feel that I need to start writing about a particular discovery that I think will help many of you out there right now. Having this information put me in a situation that I did not go looking for because it reveals what appears to be lies, distortion and greed within the natural health industry. I will let you decide your take on it based on the information that I uncovered. My primary research focus has been on minerals and probiotics. I believe these, along with systemic enzymes, to be the most important supplements in the recovery of health. I started out attempting to understand the differences between the products on the market. I interviewed many industry insiders and read copious amount of literature. I taught myself to look behind the marketing hype to ascertain the truth. It was not easy to say the least. I have come across some important information that I feel will assist those with digestive disorders.This information is not intended to be malicious, however the truth is not always pretty. On my journey, I was often shocked about the revelations that I came across, and over time patterns started to emerge. Analyzing what appeared to be correlations and causations among the scientific information, testimonies, and marketing strategies, I discovered some important answers to my own health issues. After 20 years, and $50,000 dollars spent on natural products and services with no real success of recovering my health, I felt abused and misled by the natural health care industry, like so many of you. I approach this work with the sick and desperate person at the forefront of my mind. There are so many barriers to high level wellness that come from within this industry and outside, that it makes me shutter. The barriers are economically, culturally, politically and psychologically based and driven. Some are simple in their explanation and others, much more complex. When I have the time, I will write more about this issue, but for now, let's focus on some very practical information. When you have a major illness, you suffer financially. There were many times over the years whereby I did not know how I would pay my rent because I spent all of my money on " health " products or practitioners in the attempt to recover my health. I did this without help or understanding from my family, and I know many of you are in the same situation. Chronic fatigue induced by candidiasis is a condition that is grossly misunderstood, is easily denied by those around you and passed off as laziness. This condition does not garner sympathy from those around you due to ignorance, denial, and lack of compassion.So, my goal was to find out what the priorities are in supplement choices if you only have $100.00 to spend. In other words, which products will you give you the biggest bang for your buck... Everyone can come up with $100.00, even if someone donates it to you. If it were not for some of the generous folks I met along the way, I would not have made it. I dedicate this work to those folks and the world's children, as the suffering is increasing with each generation. It has to stop, and stop, now. In my version of what Jesus would do, I impart this information to you because I am concerned about those that have very little money and that are in need of the most affordable and effective supplements in which to regain their health. I know this is the right thing to do. ( I am a Buddhist, however, when I posted this on my site, that night, I felt Jesus' spirit around me...) It starts with accurate consumer education, enlightenment and consumer de-programming. It starts with truth-telling. I chose to reveal this important information in a manner that holds no punches. In order for you to gain a full understanding of how industry secrets can inhibit true healing, regardless of testimonies and fancy marketing; I will focus on one major player in the supplement industry. First Case Study: Garden of Life What Is Primal Defense, Really?. Exposing the Truth for Your Benefit Did Jordan Rubin cure his health issues by taking Primal Defense as his source of probiotics? Of course not, that came after he decided to create an inferior proprietary product and create a brand name for profit. I say inferior, because in my opinion, it is, next to the raw ingredients that I believe Jordan used to recover his health. This is the information that I have uncovered: The mysterious " black dirt " that Jordan ate and he labels as " ionic minerals " on his ingredient list, is Humate. When I found this out, I asked myself, " Why did he not reveal that? " Only conclusion: For Profit and Control. I support a for-profit economy. However, keeping supplement ingredients a " secret " can have devastating results for the consumer. We need to know what we are putting into our bodies in order to know what works for us and what does not and why...This is a major problem in the industry and barrier to wellness and consumer empowerment. I inadvertently found out about humate because I took a product called fulvic liquid minerals and I became an industry insider when I became a broker for a company that sells both products. I have spent months researching both humate and fulvic acid.One of the problems that appears to happen for many people that are really toxic and sensitive is that the humate will be too strong. You see, humate is an amazing cellular detoxifier, however your body has to be ready for it. I have my own experience with this and I will tell you what I discovered. I believe it is best to make sure your bowels are moving 3 times a day before taking such a strong detoxifier. You also need to make sure your liver and kidneys are open and functioning well enough to handle the detox. Makes sense right?? However, you do have an alternative to humate and that is fulvic acid with minerals. Everyone seems to be able to handle this product. While the liquid fulvic acid products have a small amount of minerals and aminos, I believe supplementing with other minerals to be important too. Now, we know what the mysterious black dirt is. What about the " HSO " probiotics? What, you think that the soil-based organisms that Jordan writes about are naturally occurring in the " black dirt " ? Even though that is the implied notion, is it the truth? No.Even though there are some naturally occuring micro-organisms in humate, this is not the " Homeostatic Soil Organisms " or HSOs that Garden of Life has trade marked. So, what is it??? Come to find out, he used a product called EM, which stands for Effective Microorganisms or Efficient Microorganisms. Both are trade names. This comes in liquid that sells for a mere $17.45 for a 32oz bottle. Oh and by the way, you can extend that bottle up to 22 times it's size. I use it and it got me going to the bathroom 3-4 a day. It worked far better than any encapsulated probiotic I used and is far less expensive!!!! He processes this product and puts it in his Primal Defense. EM contains the soil-based organisms, not the humate, despite the impression Garden of Life has created to keep you in the dark.What about the greens in Primal Defense? Did anyone notice that the product changed in the last few years?? Well, I know why. Shortly after Jordan regained his health, he was introduced to a company in Australia that makes fermented products. He decided to put the humate, EM and fermented grasses together to create Primal Defense. The fermented grasses are powerful and he used them in Primal Defense for the first three years. I believe that is why the product got a good reputation. You see, even though EM is a great product, when it is reduced and dehydrated as it is in Primal Defense, it is not as powerful as in the raw Mother Culture.The company that makes the fermented grasses in Australia is called AGM. The brand name is Grainfields. Jordan no longer has the fermented grasses in his products from AGM. AGM uses a special process that makes the bacteria very hardy and powerful. I recommend taking the powder with water on an empty stomach to understand the product's power. Luckily, AGM products can be purchased here in the US under the name of Grainfields. It does not contain Humate or soil-based organisms. I welcome them with open arms, as they have been in business for 17 years and currently sell their fermented products in 30 other countries. It is about time they have a presence here in America. They also make fermented liquids that are helpful and good. I believe that these two food based probiotics are the most powerful probiotics on the market. While I think that humate has its place in human health, I think the fulvic liquid is far better to take when you are in early recovery, especially if you are really sensitive and very ill. Men seem to be able to handle humate better than women and I think it has to do with hormones. Here are the links to the sources for these products and tell them Magnolia sent you! Effecient Microorganisms: www.scdworld.com This is a food grade product, however it has many uses, thus the broad labeling.The one person online that is an EM expert is Vinny Pinto. He can be found at www.vinnypinto.us. I really appreciate him for all of his work on this product. Thanks Vinny. He also runs a group on EM under EM-Health. Please visit the EM forum at www.curezone.com Please visit my friend at www.livesuperfoods.com to order these products.. Let him know you found out about this from Magnolia. There are many informational sites on Fulvic Acid and Humic Acid. I do not have a favorite one. Humate has been used primarily in agriculture and most of the sites are focused on that application. I am still researching the different ones on the market and will let you know which one I like the best. There is a lot to consider when it comes to quality control. Also, one of my pet peeves about this industry is the use of mail order degrees that allow you to refer to yourself as a doctor. This is something Jordan has done, however now that people are shedding light on it, I noticed that he is no longer using the letters Ph.D. on his websites. Please see this article for additional information concerning this:http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art35133.aspGiven Jordan's timeline with his illness, recovery and business ventures, it appears he would not have had the time to even get a BA degree, much less, a Ph.D.; but it does appear he deserves a BS degree based on his marketing methods using fake degrees in order to win the trust of the public...I say, shame on you Jordan for making choices that contribute to the credibility issues of this industry, thus in the long run, making it tougher for everyone of us to get the best products and information about health. Your Maker will be the ultimate one to judge you, yet while we, mere mortals, continue to suffer in the meantime due to your less than desirable choices. I encourage you to tell your customers about these products, especially EM. You have the money and the platform in which to do this. I personally feel as if it is a sin not to.Moss Green does a good job at highlighting Jordan's use of dishonest degrees , however I am not in agreement with her where humate and soil-based organisms are concerned. I do think they have their place in human wellness. I think it makes a big difference in the manufacturing process, the delivery system and the timing of their application as to their effectiveness. Garden of Life's Secret Fermentation Process Excerpt from Old G of L LiteratureThe Miracle of Poten-ZymeBut there was something more that I learned from my own illness. I realized people used to get much more reliable results from herbal medicines because their digestive tracts, at one time, were far more able to utilize foods and herbs than today. Today, for most of us, our digestive tracts are damaged to greater or lesser degrees due to our overuse of medications and poor dietary habits. Many herbs and other sources of natural healing agents, such as mushrooms, are fibrous and difficult for the body to break down. We took the fermentation process that helped heal me-what today we call the Poten-Zyme™ process, with more than 14 species of homeostatic soil organisms and other lactic-acid producing microorganisms-and use it to " unlock " the active ingredients of our whole food concentrates and herbs. This is important. There are records of traditional herbalism from the Orient and other cultures in the Far East dating back 1,500 years ago, which talked about herbal remedies that were used to treat a variety of ailments. In the past, they provided very predictable, very effective, very potent results. Yet today, we are not getting the same kind of healing response from these herbs. The reason people today aren't being helped is not necessarily due to the lack of healing properties in the herbs themselves-it is the direct result of an ultimate breakdown in the human digestive tract. The nutrients and phytochemicals contained in herbs are not being broken down and utilized properly by the body, primarily because people's guts have been destroyed from the overuse of prescription medications- antibiotics, corticosteroids, and other immune suppressive drugs-as well as chlorinated and fluoridated water, ambient pollutants in our environment, and an overall poor diet coupled with a steady intake of junk foods. The application of the Poten-Zyme process is a way for the body to utilize all of the phytochemicals and phytonutrients available in these herbs, with very little stress on the digestive tract. This benefit is extremely important to those people undergoing chemotherapy and radiation, or those with AIDS or other immune disorders, who have very little digestive capability. This enzymatic " pre-digestion " process increases bioavailability and absorption of the medicinal compounds making them " body-ready " for everyone, even those with compromised digestion. In other words, the sickest persons, with the least ability to utilize fibrous herbs, receive a much greater boost from our nutritional formulas, thanks to the fermentation process that the whole food concentrates and herbs undergo, making their healing constituents far more available to the sickened person's body. This ancient method of bio-fermentation incorporates beneficial microorganisms (probiotics) and their enzymes into the foods to gently break them down into their most basic elements. This is not something that any company could easily duplicate. Our fermentation, done in the U.S. Southwest and Australia, is not available anywhere else in the world. Our Poten- Zyme lactic acid fermentation process uses a " mother " culture that contains microorganisms resistant to many of the agents that kill more fragile probiotic species (such as acidophilus)-including stomach acid, heat, cold, chlorine, fluorine and ascorbic acid. We now have a rare, self-sustaining culture. ~Sounds like EM and AGM fermention to me. If I got the chance to ask Jordan some questions they would be, " If you were dying again like you were all those years ago, would you reach for Primal Defense or EM and, do you take just plain EM today? Garden of Life is an important case study in marketing and consumer behavior. While I believe most of the nutritional messages by this company are good, I do not agree with the knowledge that they have chosen to withhold from the public. I understand it is important to protect the financial interest of a company, but Jordan would have made enough money telling the whole story. It is this kind of common place choice that has gotten us into the mess we now face. You see, because most of the information he imparts is good, many people are too busy, sick, and tired to discern the good from bad when it comes from one source, so they just give the trust `cause they need to. I have been there and was there for many years, until this last year. For me, it was figure it out or get out.Now Jordan is starting to pay a price for the choices he made. Garden of Life is now in big-time trouble with the FTC and who knows if they will be around tomorrow. In 2003, around 450 nutritional companies were closed down by the government. Click here to learn about the mess Jordan now faces:http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/03/gardenoflife.htm I do not support the government taking complete control of the supplement industry. I believe that the industry needs to create an organization in which to self monitor the marketing of these products. The how and when of it, will be up to the marketplace and the voice of the people. The more you can think about these products and companies from a critical thinking skills perspective, all the better for all of us. How true the words, " The first wealth is health. " If we have that, then I believe we can do anything! I personally tried Jordan's Primal Defense and it was too much for my system at that time. My detox pathways were bottlenecked from the poisons from the candidiasis. I only started to get better once I found the raw ingredients, just like he did, although I used fulvic acid instead of humate.. Currently, I am 80% better. If Jordan had chosen to write a book and sell the raw products, perhaps I would have not suffered the past 6 years. I write this with the prayer that this information will better empower you to wellness. In humanity, Magnolia in AustinBTW, I hear that Jordan no longer owns Garden of Life even though he is still the front man. I think that is why he wrote another book and started another company that sells the same stuff under a different brand.Also, I posted my site on www.makersforum.com and the owner decided to leave it on the site because he supports the concept of freedom of speech and understands that the free exchange of perspectives, ideas and knowledge is the best thing about America. However, it appears that the site has been hacked recently, and it makes me wonder if there is any connection to my posting???I extend an open invitation to Jordan to discuss the information I have posted here. I would really like to hear from him. I totally support the Traditional Diet concept based on the work of Weston A. Price made popular by Sally Fallon in the book, " Nourishing Traditions " and this is the book and work that Jordan primarily used to create the book and brand name, " The Maker's Diet. " Please join the non-profit organization, www.westonaprice.org. They are wonderful and have excellent information. ~I started my discovery journey with prayers that asked for answers to my health problems. I also asked for support for the expansion of my mind. In order to be able to process and understand all of the complicated and conflicting information from the natural health care industry, I needed to be able to see the underlying relationships behind the marketing of these products. Many of my prayers have been answered and I encourage you to use the power of prayer also in your healing journey. What is the saying, " The truth shall prevail'...I respect all world religions and I consider myself a Tibetan Buddhist. It has taught me to deconstruct worldly illusions and my ego (false self) in order to experience compassion through enlightenment. It has been invaluable to me in this work of truth-seeking. I am in the middle of writing a book based on my research and own healing...please stay tuned... Email: magnoliabrooks@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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