Immunocal vs. immunoPro ??

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I found the following link:

http://www.ei-resource.org/Articles/cfs-art16.asp

which seems to show Cheney finding a preference for immunocal. Caution: The

studies cited are not double-blind placebo, and are small numbers (low n).

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Cheney found undenatured whey protein was the best way to increase

glutathione levels and function. The clinic conducted a six-month study of

the first patented bioactive whey product (Immunocal), and discovered it

significantly improved glutathione function. Though it was a small study

(eight patients), the results were consistent with the feedback from

Cheney's patient population as a whole. Seven of the eight study

participants finished the study. They all began by taking two packs a day.

At the three-month point, half the group was switched to one pack a day. One

patient had received so much benefit from two packs a day that he refused to

take the lower dose and dropped out of the study.

Five of the seven patients who finished the study had positive responses.

The two who felt no benefit were the least ill to begin with. Cheney

speculates that their healthier digestive systems might have more fully

digested the whey, making it less effective. It's very important that all

whey products be taken on a completely empty stomach so that no acid or

digestive enzymes are present to break it down. Some patients even take an

antacid 30 minutes before taking whey to reduce that possibility.

Patients in the study were allowed to choose which tests would be run, since

they were paying for them. Each patient who tested positive for mycoplasma

and chlamydia pneumoniae at the beginning of the study tested negative six

months after treatment, regardless of whether they finished the study with

one or two packs a day. This suggests one pack a day will wipe out

intracellular bacteria.

Three patients were tested for HHV6. Two were positive. The patient who

stayed on two packs a day the entire six months was negative at the end of

the study. The patient who dropped to one pack a day remained positive. This

suggests that at least two packs a day are needed to neutralize viruses.

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and

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ImmunePro appeared on the market in late 1999. It has a different production

process than the other two whey products. Independent testing revealed that

it contains two to six times more of each bioactive ingredient. It appears

to be a much more powerful product than the other two undenatured whey

proteins, but also more problematic.

Cheney tested ImmunePro on approximately nine patients. Only two or three

had positive outcomes. Those who responded well, did so at lower doses than

required with Immunocal or ImuPlus. Five grams twice a day is Cheney's

recommended dose. He has seen no added benefit from higher doses. Some

patients need to begin with much smaller doses and gradually work up.

It is speculated that ImmuneProÌs greater potency causes it to mobilize more

toxins more quickly - often more toxins than the body can handle. On the

other hand, Cheney also believes that it may have benefits the others do not

have - if you can tolerate it. Some patients take a small amount of

ImmunePro along with normal doses of one of the other whey products.

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( " It is specualted.... " by who?)

ly, I'm taking some of each, palanning to cut back if i feel worse.

That immunocal stuff is expenisive, though.

- Bob Niederman