Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil Friday

[Guest guest]

tHAT is the stupidest topic I have ever heard. It shouldn't even be an

" issue " to discuss. It is a natural act of feeding your child. This

society is so screwed up and Dr. Phil ( and i use the term doctor

losely) is an IDIOT

> Just caught a preview- tomorrow on Dr. Phil they will address the

question

> " is it ok to breastfeed in public? " - I believe he has guests that

are for and

> against it- should be interesting

> Amy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have to agree with i (I'm laughing out loud at your comment,

BTW It shouldn't even BE a discussion! How the hell else did

women feed their babies before bottles were invented like 100 years

ago? Sheesh!

> tHAT is the stupidest topic I have ever heard. It shouldn't even

be an

> " issue " to discuss. It is a natural act of feeding your child. This

> society is so screwed up and Dr. Phil ( and i use the term doctor

> losely) is an IDIOT

> > " is it ok to breastfeed in public? " - I believe he has guests that

> are for and

> > against it- should be interesting

> > Amy

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point and where

we are heading as a society.

[Guest guest]

Not to mention, breasts weren't so sexualized in today's society and

if more women breastfed, we wouldn't even be TALKING about this! Is

the next topic going to be " Bottle Feeding in Public - Is is OK " ?!!!

> Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point and

where

> we are heading as a society.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/6/2005 4:58:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,

shawnilivingston@... writes:

tHAT is the stupidest topic I have ever heard. It shouldn't even be an

" issue " to discuss. It is a natural act of feeding your child. This

society is so screwed up and Dr. Phil ( and i use the term doctor

losely) is an IDIOT

Maybe some positive women will make these points on the show and get through

to some people...

[Guest guest]

What the heck do they think boobs are for??? Very strange how some

people find it disgusting. I mean they put sexy lingery on them for

heir men, yet the thought of breastfeeding is repulsive. I dont' get

it. Me - I LOVE it! And wish I still was.... but she's 7 1/2 now

(stopped last Nov) but " still " requests the special cuddle that we had

when we did.

God I miss it.

> > Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point and

> where

> > we are heading as a society.

[Guest guest]

Gosh, my 11yr old Neville new what boobs were for at the ripe old age of 5. He

said, and I qoute, " Boobies are for love and care " . If that doesn't say it all,

I don't know what does. Out of the mouths of babes...............

Anita

M McGrath <simonecassie@...> wrote:

What the heck do they think boobs are for??? Very strange how some

people find it disgusting. I mean they put sexy lingery on them for

heir men, yet the thought of breastfeeding is repulsive. I dont' get

it. Me - I LOVE it! And wish I still was.... but she's 7 1/2 now

(stopped last Nov) but " still " requests the special cuddle that we had

when we did.

God I miss it.

> > Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point and

> where

> > we are heading as a society.

[Guest guest]

That is beautiful Anita

> > > Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point

and

> > where

> > > we are heading as a society.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the sharing the info. Its been national breastfeeding week here

in Canada. Our local hospital was supporting a breastfeeding day at our

local shopping mall in the food court. Basically women and their babes were

welcome at lunchtime to nurse in support of breastfeeding week and show

people its not something to be hidden or ashamed of. I have had to nurse my

little guy in public places and so far haven't received any negative

comments...but I know of others, friends and family who have, and its really

sad. Breastfeeding can be made to seem so isolating - I hope the stigma

changes.

Tania

Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil Friday

> That is beautiful Anita

>

>

>

>> > > Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point

> and

>> > where

>> > > we are heading as a society.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Thank you .If he keeps up that line of thinking, he should turn out to be a

fine young man someday.

Anita

M McGrath <simonecassie@...> wrote:

That is beautiful Anita

> > > Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point

and

> > where

> > > we are heading as a society.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tania,

I remember being very comfortable breastfeeding in public, though I went out so

rarely. I also remember being discreet about it. Like anything else, there is no

need to be 'in your face' about it in an effort to prove ones point. It sort of

defeats the purpose and really turnes people off.

Anita

" Tania A. Heinemann " <taniar@...> wrote:

Thanks for the sharing the info. Its been national breastfeeding week here

in Canada. Our local hospital was supporting a breastfeeding day at our

local shopping mall in the food court. Basically women and their babes were

welcome at lunchtime to nurse in support of breastfeeding week and show

people its not something to be hidden or ashamed of. I have had to nurse my

little guy in public places and so far haven't received any negative

comments...but I know of others, friends and family who have, and its really

sad. Breastfeeding can be made to seem so isolating - I hope the stigma

changes.

Tania

Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil Friday

> That is beautiful Anita

>

>

>

>> > > Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point

> and

>> > where

>> > > we are heading as a society.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I agree, I am discreet nursing, just feels more comfortable to me, tho I

must admit I prefer nursing in the nursing rooms, I do find people

stare...and not always in what feels like a good way!!

Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil Friday

>

>

>> That is beautiful Anita

>>

>>

>>

>>> > > Exactly! It really makes you wonder how we got to this point

>> and

>>> > where

>>> > > we are heading as a society.

>>>

>>>

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>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

I caught that preview too- looks good! One of the women said it right-

" It's not my right to breastfeed, it's my child's right to eat " . I

agree. One woman also said, " I don't care what anyone else thinks! "

And Dr. Phil told her, " Well thanks for being honest! " Those of

course were just clips. I'm one of those that doesn't care either.

I'm discreet- unlike my cousin who has VERY larg breasts and whips one

out- totally exposing her to EVERYONE to feed the baby. I believe

there are ways to do it tactfully, when no one else would know what

you're doing- except a mom who's breastfed- or a dad who's S.O. has.

My daughter is 13 and SHE even gets mad when she sees things on TV

about people being upset by others breastfeeding! You go girl!!! I

only nursed her for 10 months and I dried up, but it's no big deal in

our house! My son bf til he was 1, and we're expecting twins here

anyday, so they'll both be bf. I'm glad I could instill those beliefs

in my daughter while she's younger- before she's a mom someday! I saw

a woman at the store when my son was little yet. She had a newborn,

and it looked like she was trying to find an emptly isle in the infant

dept. to possibly bf- her daughter was SCREAMING, and she looked a

litle stressed. I wanted so bad to bf my son and walk by her, but he

was sleeping and I didn't want to wake him up- just to show her that

it's ok! Yep.... it makes NO DIFF. to me where I am- if my babies are

hungry, they WILL be fed! I have never gotten a rude comment, and

don't really care if I ever do! I think the show will be interesting.

I don't think Dr. Phil is against it, but I think he's trying to bring

awareness that it IS natural, and if done properly, it's great! Not

sure. I'm anxious to see it though!

Tara Owen

>

> Just caught a preview- tomorrow on Dr. Phil they will address the

question

> " is it ok to breastfeed in public? " - I believe he has guests that

are for and

> against it- should be interesting

> Amy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/7/2005 4:25:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,

tracythode@... writes:

the way the 'question' was framed to get

people on the show..sounded definetly anti-BF-in-public.

I saw a preview- there was one lady that is like everyone on this list who

said it shouldn't be a question if she could feed her daughter....

[Guest guest]

One of the members of Thebabywearer forum was called in as the BF

expert for Doc Phil - she was on vacation and couldn't do it. She's

actually relieved because Dr Phil has sandwiched it between some

really odd topics. I can't think it's going to go well at all. I

am *not* a Dr Phil fan, for the most part but I hope (for the sake

BFing) that he doesn't deride it.

I have no problem with BFing in public - I just would appreciate

some tact. I'm due with twins any day now, too!! I will feed them

when they need it no matter where I am or who I am with. I just

don't want to start a " controversy " at the grocery store!! lol

Clean up on Aisle 3 takes on a whole new meaning!

There are too many people out there that get offended by just about

anything and will give you grief over it. For some reason BFing in

public seems to equate with strippers and fallen women for far to

many people! I really do know people with this attitude! " Rubbing "

it in their faces won't help the NIP cause - it could very well hurt

it. Tactful NIP will ease the way for better legislation and less

animosity from the stooopid people put there! At least I can always

hope!!

Kim

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately not being in the US I can't imagine getting to see it

anytime soon so PLEASE post a rehash :-) It didn't sound like it was

going to be very supportive, the way the 'question' was framed to get

people on the show..sounded definetly anti-BF-in-public.

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Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil Friday

One of the members of Thebabywearer forum was called in as the BF

expert for Doc Phil - she was on vacation and couldn't do it. She's

actually relieved because Dr Phil has sandwiched it between some

really odd topics. I can't think it's going to go well at all. I

am *not* a Dr Phil fan, for the most part but I hope (for the sake

BFing) that he doesn't deride it.

[Guest guest]

There's needs to be a law against unhealthy formula bottle feeding in

public, or anywhere, because it really is child abuse. Bottle feeding

offends me and makes me uncomfortable.

Dan

[Guest guest]

I'll add my 2 cents as well... lol

I'm well versed in this as I've been nursing continuously for close to 7 yrs

now... and will probably be tandem nursing by the end of the year.

I have 'big ole boobs' and sometimes you can't help exposing yourself, no matter

what size you are. However, what I've found is that its actually easier for me

to be discreet with the size of my boobs... I lay my child on my lap and just

lean over a little, pull up shirt, and voila'! Easy. Although, I've had to

nurse standing up in aisles too... but, like pretty much everyone else has said,

I've never gotten any negative flack from others in public.

But, I do NIP discreetly, ONLY because that's my personality. I think that NIP

should be so ordinary that you don't look twice when you see someone doing it.

I'll try to remember to watch Dr. Phil today and will most definitely write in

to the show if I feel the need to! lol

Alison, sahm in south central Louisiana (luckily, got through both Katrina and

Rita unscathed!), 7 months pregnant, extended breastfeeding, co-sleeping,

baby-wearing, non-vaccinating sahm to 2 wonderful girls:

Calista (2-13-99) and Ursula (12-22-02)

and pregnant for a boy! (EDD: 12-27-05)

[Guest guest]

There is a summary of the show at

http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/593/

If you click on the <javascript:%20slideshow('2796');> " It can still be

natural in the bathroom or in your car, " says . Part you can get a

summary of what they have to say.

C

_____

From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of Alison

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:13 AM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil Friday

I'll add my 2 cents as well... lol

I'm well versed in this as I've been nursing continuously for close to 7 yrs

now... and will probably be tandem nursing by the end of the year.

I have 'big ole boobs' and sometimes you can't help exposing yourself, no

matter what size you are. However, what I've found is that its actually

easier for me to be discreet with the size of my boobs... I lay my child on

my lap and just lean over a little, pull up shirt, and voila'! Easy.

Although, I've had to nurse standing up in aisles too... but, like pretty

much everyone else has said, I've never gotten any negative flack from

others in public.

But, I do NIP discreetly, ONLY because that's my personality. I think that

NIP should be so ordinary that you don't look twice when you see someone

doing it.

I'll try to remember to watch Dr. Phil today and will most definitely write

in to the show if I feel the need to! lol

Alison, sahm in south central Louisiana (luckily, got through both Katrina

and Rita unscathed!), 7 months pregnant, extended breastfeeding,

co-sleeping, baby-wearing, non-vaccinating sahm to 2 wonderful girls:

Calista (2-13-99) and Ursula (12-22-02)

and pregnant for a boy! (EDD: 12-27-05)

[Guest guest]

Here's a lovely quote from the anti-NIP woman on the show:

" Natural's got nothing to do with it. It can still be natural in the

bathroom or in your car! " says that if she wanted to see bare

breasts when she was having coffee, she would go to a topless

bar. " It's just as inappropriate as if I were to take off my top

sitting at the dinner table, put my dinner on my breast, and ask my

boyfriend to eat that way. "

YIKES!!!

>

> There is a summary of the show at

>

> http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/593/

>

> If you click on the <javascript:%20slideshow('2796');> " It can

still be

> natural in the bathroom or in your car, " says . Part you can

get a

> summary of what they have to say.

>

> C

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Vaccinations

[mailto:Vaccinations ] On

> Behalf Of Alison

> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:13 AM

> Vaccinations

> Subject: Re: Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil

Friday

>

>

>

> I'll add my 2 cents as well... lol

>

> I'm well versed in this as I've been nursing continuously for

close to 7 yrs

> now... and will probably be tandem nursing by the end of the year.

>

> I have 'big ole boobs' and sometimes you can't help exposing

yourself, no

> matter what size you are. However, what I've found is that its

actually

> easier for me to be discreet with the size of my boobs... I lay my

child on

> my lap and just lean over a little, pull up shirt, and voila'!

Easy.

> Although, I've had to nurse standing up in aisles too... but, like

pretty

> much everyone else has said, I've never gotten any negative flack

from

> others in public.

>

> But, I do NIP discreetly, ONLY because that's my personality. I

think that

> NIP should be so ordinary that you don't look twice when you see

someone

> doing it.

>

> I'll try to remember to watch Dr. Phil today and will most

definitely write

> in to the show if I feel the need to! lol

>

> Alison, sahm in south central Louisiana (luckily, got through both

Katrina

> and Rita unscathed!), 7 months pregnant, extended breastfeeding,

> co-sleeping, baby-wearing, non-vaccinating sahm to 2 wonderful

girls:

> Calista (2-13-99) and Ursula (12-22-02)

> and pregnant for a boy! (EDD: 12-27-05)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OMG.... that is sooo NOT the same!

Alison, extended breastfeeding, co-sleeping, baby-wearing, non-vaccinating sahm

to 2 wonderful girls:

Calista (2-13-99) and Ursula (12-22-02)

and pregnant for a boy! (EDD: 12-27-05)

----- Original Message -----

" It's just as inappropriate as if I were to take off my top

sitting at the dinner table, put my dinner on my breast, and ask my

boyfriend to eat that way. "

YIKES!!!

[Guest guest]

I find it extremely bazaar that in America we can walk down any check out

stand and see half a dozen half naked women with most of their breasts

exposed in a vulgar manner (at children's eye level!) and no one seems

bothered by that. Yet when a woman provides nourishment for her baby in the

most natural, loving way - it is seen as vulgar and disgusting to many. ODD

and SAD!

My dd was a very matter of fact nurser (latched on, ate, then left them

alone) and weaned herself at one year. Now, I am bfing my 20 month old son

and he LOVES his nay - nay's. When he nurses he likes to have access to

both sides at once so he can switch from one side to the other whenever he

chooses. He also likes to fondle one while nursing on the other. I try to

be discreet because of my modesty, but I am certainly not going to deny my

son his right to eat at will because of my modesty or anyone elses

uncomfortable feelings. We have bfed in many different places - including

sitting on the floor in the isles of shopping centers.

It's so cute - when ds gets really tired he does his nursie yoga - he likes

to stand up and nurse while I'm sitting down. He kind of gets in the " down

dog " position so he's basically standing on his head nursing, then he lifts

one of his legs backwards. Soo cute! My Mom and both of my sisters - who

are uncomfortable with attachment parenting - laugh at him and then try to

offer me advice on how to " break the habit " . SHEESH!! I don't tell them

how to eat!

I kinda got off on a tangent - sorry. Anyway, I agree that it shouldn't

even be an issue. Lots of people think it's cute when animals nurse -

what's the difference with humans? Some people can be so . . . I can't

even think of a word to use!

Lori

Mom to Anneke, 7 and Steller 20 months

Norse Mewsic Norwegian Forest Cats

Natural cats reared naturally!

" I do not have to take a journey to find a shaman. I have a sage sitting on

my windowsill. " - Deborah Wood, " The Tao of Meow "

[Guest guest]

Oh my gosh- that lady that was against breastfeeding was one of the most

ignorant people I have ever heard...I just wanted to slap her for being so

stupid- how frustrating.

[Guest guest]

What a freak!This woman obviously has some issues. Here's a lovely

quote from the anti-NIP woman on the show:

>

> " Natural's got nothing to do with it. It can still be natural in the

> bathroom or in your car! " says that if she wanted to see bare

> breasts when she was having coffee, she would go to a topless

> bar. " It's just as inappropriate as if I were to take off my top

> sitting at the dinner table, put my dinner on my breast, and ask my

> boyfriend to eat that way. "

>

> YIKES!!!

>

>

> >

> > There is a summary of the show at

> >

> > http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/593/

> >

> > If you click on the <javascript:%20slideshow('2796');> " It can

> still be

> > natural in the bathroom or in your car, " says . Part you can

> get a

> > summary of what they have to say.

> >

> > C

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: Vaccinations

> [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

> > Behalf Of Alison

> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:13 AM

> > Vaccinations

> > Subject: Re: Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil

> Friday

> >

> >

> >

> > I'll add my 2 cents as well... lol

> >

> > I'm well versed in this as I've been nursing continuously for

> close to 7 yrs

> > now... and will probably be tandem nursing by the end of the year.

> >

> > I have 'big ole boobs' and sometimes you can't help exposing

> yourself, no

> > matter what size you are. However, what I've found is that its

> actually

> > easier for me to be discreet with the size of my boobs... I lay my

> child on

> > my lap and just lean over a little, pull up shirt, and voila'!

> Easy.

> > Although, I've had to nurse standing up in aisles too... but, like

> pretty

> > much everyone else has said, I've never gotten any negative flack

> from

> > others in public.

> >

> > But, I do NIP discreetly, ONLY because that's my personality. I

> think that

> > NIP should be so ordinary that you don't look twice when you see

> someone

> > doing it.

> >

> > I'll try to remember to watch Dr. Phil today and will most

> definitely write

> > in to the show if I feel the need to! lol

> >

> > Alison, sahm in south central Louisiana (luckily, got through both

> Katrina

> > and Rita unscathed!), 7 months pregnant, extended breastfeeding,

> > co-sleeping, baby-wearing, non-vaccinating sahm to 2 wonderful

> girls:

> > Calista (2-13-99) and Ursula (12-22-02)

> > and pregnant for a boy! (EDD: 12-27-05)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Maybe she is a homophobic and/or terribly uncomfortable with womanhood. I feel

badly for her.

Anita

i <shawnilivingston@...> wrote:

What a freak!This woman obviously has some issues. Here's a lovely

quote from the anti-NIP woman on the show:

>

> " Natural's got nothing to do with it. It can still be natural in the

> bathroom or in your car! " says that if she wanted to see bare

> breasts when she was having coffee, she would go to a topless

> bar. " It's just as inappropriate as if I were to take off my top

> sitting at the dinner table, put my dinner on my breast, and ask my

> boyfriend to eat that way. "

>

> YIKES!!!

>

>

> >

> > There is a summary of the show at

> >

> > http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/593/

> >

> > If you click on the <javascript:%20slideshow('2796');> " It can

> still be

> > natural in the bathroom or in your car, " says . Part you can

> get a

> > summary of what they have to say.

> >

> > C

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: Vaccinations

> [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

> > Behalf Of Alison

> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:13 AM

> > Vaccinations

> > Subject: Re: Re: Breastfeeding debate on Dr. Phil

> Friday

> >

> >

> >

> > I'll add my 2 cents as well... lol

> >

> > I'm well versed in this as I've been nursing continuously for

> close to 7 yrs

> > now... and will probably be tandem nursing by the end of the year.

> >

> > I have 'big ole boobs' and sometimes you can't help exposing

> yourself, no

> > matter what size you are. However, what I've found is that its

> actually

> > easier for me to be discreet with the size of my boobs... I lay my

> child on

> > my lap and just lean over a little, pull up shirt, and voila'!

> Easy.

> > Although, I've had to nurse standing up in aisles too... but, like

> pretty

> > much everyone else has said, I've never gotten any negative flack

> from

> > others in public.

> >

> > But, I do NIP discreetly, ONLY because that's my personality. I

> think that

> > NIP should be so ordinary that you don't look twice when you see

> someone

> > doing it.

> >

> > I'll try to remember to watch Dr. Phil today and will most

> definitely write

> > in to the show if I feel the need to! lol

> >

> > Alison, sahm in south central Louisiana (luckily, got through both

> Katrina

> > and Rita unscathed!), 7 months pregnant, extended breastfeeding,

> > co-sleeping, baby-wearing, non-vaccinating sahm to 2 wonderful

> girls:

> > Calista (2-13-99) and Ursula (12-22-02)

> > and pregnant for a boy! (EDD: 12-27-05)

> >

> >

> >