RE: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

[Guest guest]

No it isn't normal. I am still nursing my three year old and our homeopath

doesn't even bat an eye when he nurses during appointments, in fact, she gave us

a warm smile.

I would find another, more open minded homeopath who actually knows about the

benefits of extended nursing!

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

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I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking for

a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my baby

already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

dependent on mother.

now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

ella

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

fire- Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

Both of these statements constitute a load of rubbish, Ella. Neither is

true. If you consume a lot of dairy produce, it is possible that he might

be having a reaction to that - you could try reducing and see if his

congestion improves, but breastfeeding itself is not going to cause

congestion.

Love, light and peace,

Sue

> > ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

> >

> >

> >I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking for

> >a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my baby

> >already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

> >another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

> >dependent on mother.

> >

> >now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

> >

> >ella

> >

> >--

> >Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

> >fire- Yeats

> >

> >http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

> >http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I doubt it..I'm sure there have to be some out there with more sense

than that. I mean really-stunts emotional growth to be dependent on

mother? That little one is going to be dependent for a loooooong time

nursing or no!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

, 13mos

See him at <http://www.tabulas.com/~wanderings/gallery/48269/>

http://www.tabulas.com/~wanderings/gallery/48269/

ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking for

a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my baby

already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

dependent on mother.

now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

ella

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

fire- Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

Ella,

I'm with Sue and Sara on this one. It's total garbage. In the interviewing

process make sure you ask this question up front.

I quit nursing when my toddler was a year old and she was fine with it but I

wasn't. I miss it now that she's almost two.

There's nothing but good things that can come from nursing your baby, especially

at only a year old!!

Sheri B.

maria ella galang-ampongan <ryankachupi@...> wrote:

I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking for

a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my baby

already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

dependent on mother.

now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

ella

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

fire- Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

Thanks, but I'm getting so frustrated. There is no classical homeopath in

our country that I know of...yet. The only one I heard about left the

country already. Homeopathy is not yet widespread in our country. It's a

good thing I haven't had the need to go to an allopath yet in the sense that

all my ds has gotten are coughs and cold. He had a bad fever once but I

really persisted in not going to the allopath knowing they'll just prescribe

meds, glad I read mendelson so knew how to react to a fever.

Ella

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire-

Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

My naturopath (is there a difference between naturopath and

homeopath, and if so- what is the difference?) suggests breastfeeding

as long as possible, with introducing food as late as possible as

well. I would imagine if there was something in your milk that was

harming your child, you would just do what is in the best interest

for your child. Not sure if that is what your homeopath was meaning?

--- maria ella galang-ampongan <ryankachupi@...> wrote:

> I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking

> for

> a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my

> baby

> already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

> another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

> dependent on mother.

>

> now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

>

> ella

>

> --

> Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

> fire- Yeats

>

> http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

> http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

,

A naturopathic doctor is fully educated in homeopathy and may use it as part of

a total treatment plan.They are typically well versed in and often incorporate

clinical nutrition, Chinese medicine and acupucture, botanical medicine, spinal

and soft tissue adjustments and lifestyle counceling. Like the homeopath, the

naturopath interviews the patient to get to the root of the problem.

Anita

<jsprecourt@...> wrote:

My naturopath (is there a difference between naturopath and

homeopath, and if so- what is the difference?) suggests breastfeeding

as long as possible, with introducing food as late as possible as

well. I would imagine if there was something in your milk that was

harming your child, you would just do what is in the best interest

for your child. Not sure if that is what your homeopath was meaning?

--- maria ella galang-ampongan <ryankachupi@...> wrote:

> I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking

> for

> a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my

> baby

> already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

> another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

> dependent on mother.

>

> now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

>

> ella

>

> --

> Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

> fire- Yeats

>

> http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

> http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Not necessarily. A naturopath MAY have additional education in homeopathy.

Here's something Sheri N. has posted about naturopaths in the past:

" I'm not a big fan of ND's as they know a little about a lot of things and are

able to help with I call maintaining causes but I don't see them being able to

get at the root of issues like a homeopath can, unless the naturopath has gone

onto specialize in homeopathy which is another 3 or 4 years after it all.

I see naturopaths as still suppressing illness in many cases by just using

natural substances. But they are good at getting to the root of nutritional

stuff and other things.

We need more excellent homeopaths which ONLY do homeopathy which is a whole

system that heals.

Just my 2 cents "

Most naturopaths do NOT have the extensive training in homeopathy needed to

treat chronic issues. There are short courses in homeopathy that is typically

all the training most of them get.

If using a naturopath for homeopathy, I would recommend you find out exactly

what their training and background is in homeopathy alone. Trying to treat

chronic issues without extensive knowledge and experience can lead to major

problems.

Kay

*****************************************

A naturopathic doctor is fully educated in homeopathy and may use it as part of

a total treatment plan.They are typically well versed in and often incorporate

clinical nutrition, Chinese medicine and acupucture, botanical medicine, spinal

and soft tissue adjustments and lifestyle counceling. Like the homeopath, the

naturopath interviews the patient to get to the root of the problem.

Anita

<jsprecourt@...> wrote:

My naturopath (is there a difference between naturopath and

homeopath, and if so- what is the difference?) suggests breastfeeding

as long as possible, with introducing food as late as possible as

well. I would imagine if there was something in your milk that was

harming your child, you would just do what is in the best interest

for your child. Not sure if that is what your homeopath was meaning?

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

If I were to employ a naturopathic doctor, I would ask the important questions

regarding homeopathy.Certainly some of their other practices can be suppressive.

By the same token, If I were to employ a homeopath, I would ask them about their

knowledge of nutrition and the immune system. Since homeopaths treat sysmptoms

only, I feel many problems could be avoided with lifestyle advice in the area of

prevention and nutritional counceling. If that homeopath were a chiropractor as

well, this person would be my dream caregiver. No matter your specialty, being

well rounded gives you the cutting edge. Prevention is cure. Just my opinion.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Not necessarily. A naturopath MAY have additional education in homeopathy.

Here's something Sheri N. has posted about naturopaths in the past:

" I'm not a big fan of ND's as they know a little about a lot of things and are

able to help with I call maintaining causes but I don't see them being able to

get at the root of issues like a homeopath can, unless the naturopath has gone

onto specialize in homeopathy which is another 3 or 4 years after it all.

I see naturopaths as still suppressing illness in many cases by just using

natural substances. But they are good at getting to the root of nutritional

stuff and other things.

We need more excellent homeopaths which ONLY do homeopathy which is a whole

system that heals.

Just my 2 cents "

Most naturopaths do NOT have the extensive training in homeopathy needed to

treat chronic issues. There are short courses in homeopathy that is typically

all the training most of them get.

If using a naturopath for homeopathy, I would recommend you find out exactly

what their training and background is in homeopathy alone. Trying to treat

chronic issues without extensive knowledge and experience can lead to major

problems.

Kay

*****************************************

A naturopathic doctor is fully educated in homeopathy and may use it as part of

a total treatment plan.They are typically well versed in and often incorporate

clinical nutrition, Chinese medicine and acupucture, botanical medicine, spinal

and soft tissue adjustments and lifestyle counceling. Like the homeopath, the

naturopath interviews the patient to get to the root of the problem.

Anita

<jsprecourt@...> wrote:

My naturopath (is there a difference between naturopath and

homeopath, and if so- what is the difference?) suggests breastfeeding

as long as possible, with introducing food as late as possible as

well. I would imagine if there was something in your milk that was

harming your child, you would just do what is in the best interest

for your child. Not sure if that is what your homeopath was meaning?

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

That's good. Many aren't aware that just because someone claims to be using

homeopathy, doesn't make them a homeopath.

And a true classical homeopath does not treat only symptoms. They treat the

entire person, that includes a person's lifestyle choices, nutritional habits,

past medical history, family background, how you sleep and in what position,

living arrangements, stressors in their life, personality type, habits, your

appearance, how the weather affects you, fears, hobbies, interpersonal

relationships, choice of music, you name it! LOL It is all encompassing.

That's why the initial consultation usually takes at least 1 1/2 - 2 hours.

My homeopath knows more about me than my own husband does! LOL That's the

nature of the science. And knowledge of the immune system goes hand in

glove with homeopathy.

My homeopath's SON is a chiropractor... though not in the same state. And

neither are in MY state. Darn. But I do have a good local chiropractor as

well.

HTH

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Hi Kay,

If I were to employ a naturopathic doctor, I would ask the important questions

regarding homeopathy.Certainly some of their other practices can be suppressive.

By the same token, If I were to employ a homeopath, I would ask them about their

knowledge of nutrition and the immune system. Since homeopaths treat sysmptoms

only, I feel many problems could be avoided with lifestyle advice in the area of

prevention and nutritional counceling. If that homeopath were a chiropractor as

well, this person would be my dream caregiver. No matter your specialty, being

well rounded gives you the cutting edge. Prevention is cure. Just my opinion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Kay,

The reason I mentioned homeopaths treating symptoms only is because of a

discussion about detoxification, which apparently does not jibe with homeopathy.

It was said that you can't rid the body of something that hasn't manifested as a

symptom. Do you recall this discussion?

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

That's good. Many aren't aware that just because someone claims to be using

homeopathy, doesn't make them a homeopath.

And a true classical homeopath does not treat only symptoms. They treat the

entire person, that includes a person's lifestyle choices, nutritional habits,

past medical history, family background, how you sleep and in what position,

living arrangements, stressors in their life, personality type, habits, your

appearance, how the weather affects you, fears, hobbies, interpersonal

relationships, choice of music, you name it! LOL It is all encompassing.

That's why the initial consultation usually takes at least 1 1/2 - 2 hours.

My homeopath knows more about me than my own husband does! LOL That's the

nature of the science. And knowledge of the immune system goes hand in

glove with homeopathy.

My homeopath's SON is a chiropractor... though not in the same state. And

neither are in MY state. Darn. But I do have a good local chiropractor as

well.

HTH

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Hi Kay,

If I were to employ a naturopathic doctor, I would ask the important questions

regarding homeopathy.Certainly some of their other practices can be suppressive.

By the same token, If I were to employ a homeopath, I would ask them about their

knowledge of nutrition and the immune system. Since homeopaths treat sysmptoms

only, I feel many problems could be avoided with lifestyle advice in the area of

prevention and nutritional counceling. If that homeopath were a chiropractor as

well, this person would be my dream caregiver. No matter your specialty, being

well rounded gives you the cutting edge. Prevention is cure. Just my opinion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

In rereading your post I had another thought. Isn't it fair to say that your

homeopath is taking all your habbits, preferences and sensitivities into

consideration ultimately to decide on the proper remedy to impove your state of

health or lack thereof; resulting from symptoms.

Anita

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

Kay,

The reason I mentioned homeopaths treating symptoms only is because of a

discussion about detoxification, which apparently does not jibe with homeopathy.

It was said that you can't rid the body of something that hasn't manifested as a

symptom. Do you recall this discussion?

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

That's good. Many aren't aware that just because someone claims to be using

homeopathy, doesn't make them a homeopath.

And a true classical homeopath does not treat only symptoms. They treat the

entire person, that includes a person's lifestyle choices, nutritional habits,

past medical history, family background, how you sleep and in what position,

living arrangements, stressors in their life, personality type, habits, your

appearance, how the weather affects you, fears, hobbies, interpersonal

relationships, choice of music, you name it! LOL It is all encompassing.

That's why the initial consultation usually takes at least 1 1/2 - 2 hours.

My homeopath knows more about me than my own husband does! LOL That's the

nature of the science. And knowledge of the immune system goes hand in

glove with homeopathy.

My homeopath's SON is a chiropractor... though not in the same state. And

neither are in MY state. Darn. But I do have a good local chiropractor as

well.

HTH

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Hi Kay,

If I were to employ a naturopathic doctor, I would ask the important questions

regarding homeopathy.Certainly some of their other practices can be suppressive.

By the same token, If I were to employ a homeopath, I would ask them about their

knowledge of nutrition and the immune system. Since homeopaths treat sysmptoms

only, I feel many problems could be avoided with lifestyle advice in the area of

prevention and nutritional counceling. If that homeopath were a chiropractor as

well, this person would be my dream caregiver. No matter your specialty, being

well rounded gives you the cutting edge. Prevention is cure. Just my opinion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Yes, of course I remember. Here is how Magda explained it to me how one cannot

detoxifying from vaccines:

" Diseases are not matters. They are energies! The viruses that are introduced

in the body by vaccines, do not stay in the body! They are shed in the stool of

both humans and animals! What is " left " is the ENERGY of the disease the

vaccine is supposed to prevent. Titers are again, ENERGY! They are the result

of EXPOSURE to a disease for which there is already immunity.

We cannot detox an energetic force! And there is no way to detox those

antibodies either! "

The only way to treat the damage done by vaccines is to wait and see how that

particular individual's life force will respond to the introduction of all the

foreign and toxic material. Hence, how the energy from that vaccine

reverberates in the person's lifeforce.

Does that help?

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Kay,

The reason I mentioned homeopaths treating symptoms only is because of a

discussion about detoxification, which apparently does not jibe with homeopathy.

It was said that you can't rid the body of something that hasn't manifested as a

symptom. Do you recall this discussion?

Anita

[Guest guest]

Kay,

I could agree with you if I didn't know or at least believe that the viruses are

NOT entirely eliminated through the stool or otherwise. Because the T-cell

response is suppressed by the nature of the vaccine, virus continues in the body

often manifesting in the most horrible of ways namely CANCER as described in the

History of Vaccines and What's Coming Through That Needle. I first doubted Magda

when she said the immune system could not be seen and described it as another

one of the energies she talks about. To me, this explanation is neither logical

nor scientific. I respect your belief and I am sure Magda is a wonderful

homeopath. It's just that this is the 21st century and the diseases of today are

much more insidious than thet were 200 years ago and require a somewhat

different train of thought. Having said that, I believe detoxification can be

achieved. I am not speaking about vaccine detox via nosodes. There are other

ways to detox the body. In fact, because I have given up

nosodes, I am currently researching what detox will be next for Henry. Again

Kay, this is only my opinion and welcome everyone elses. Is it just vaccine

detox you don't think is possible or is it any given detox?

Anita

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Yes, of course I remember. Here is how Magda explained it to me how one cannot

detoxifying from vaccines:

" Diseases are not matters. They are energies! The viruses that are introduced

in the body by vaccines, do not stay in the body! They are shed in the stool of

both humans and animals! What is " left " is the ENERGY of the disease the

vaccine is supposed to prevent. Titers are again, ENERGY! They are the result

of EXPOSURE to a disease for which there is already immunity.

We cannot detox an energetic force! And there is no way to detox those

antibodies either! "

The only way to treat the damage done by vaccines is to wait and see how that

particular individual's life force will respond to the introduction of all the

foreign and toxic material. Hence, how the energy from that vaccine

reverberates in the person's lifeforce.

Does that help?

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Kay,

The reason I mentioned homeopaths treating symptoms only is because of a

discussion about detoxification, which apparently does not jibe with homeopathy.

It was said that you can't rid the body of something that hasn't manifested as a

symptom. Do you recall this discussion?

Anita

[Guest guest]

It's the ENERGY like Magda explained that continues to do the damage after the

material substances are elimintated. Cancer among other diseases can be a

result of vaccines, of course. But it's because the immune system has been

disabled and is no longer acting as the protectant in the body that it was

intended for.

The body has not changed in the last 200 years. And the way it responds to

dis-ease has not changed either. Energies are not a new concept or an old one

that has been explained away.

Can we see electricity or electromagnetic fields? No, we see the evidence of

it. Can we see the wind? No, but we see the evidence of it. Can we see the

body's soul or spirit? No, but when we see a dead person, we know that the part

of them that made them a living, breathing human being is gone.

The Vital Force is not some mysterious, new age, or Eastern mythical thought.

It is simply a form of electromagnetic energy that is a natural phenomenon and

nobody's invention. We know that exposure to electromagnetic fields from power

lines affects our health.

Extensive study by 2 American scientists, Harold Burr and Leonard Ravitz at Yale

University in 1972 showed that all human beings possess a complex

electro-magnetic energy field, and that it is this EMF which actually controls

the biochemical processes of our bodys and gives order and structure to them.

Biophysics is the study of this phenomena. So, I don't understand how you can

say it's " neither logical nor scientific. "

Homeopathic remedies are microdoses that consist only of electromagnetic energy

patterns that act on the body's own energy fields. It's nothing mysterious or

unscientific.

There was research done by a German biophysicist (Fritz-Albert Popp) in the

early 1980s which showed that the vital functions of living organisms were

clearly susceptible to the administration of potentised remedies. What was

actually measured was an energy emission, a manifestation of the electromagnetic

energy field, which correlates closely with many vital functions.

I personally don't see a need for detoxifying from anything when one can use

homeopathy in a safe and gentle manner (in the hands of an experienced classical

homeopath). A correctly taken case should indicate the correct remedy to

'unblock' the body's ability to cleanse and cure itself. That is enough. A

healthy body is capable of detoxing itself. So the remedy would be the

similimum, the remedy which would increase the overall health of the person.

You're asking some great questions, Anita.

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Kay,

I could agree with you if I didn't know or at least believe that the viruses

are NOT entirely eliminated through the stool or otherwise. Because the T-cell

response is suppressed by the nature of the vaccine, virus continues in the body

often manifesting in the most horrible of ways namely CANCER as described in the

History of Vaccines and What's Coming Through That Needle. I first doubted Magda

when she said the immune system could not be seen and described it as another

one of the energies she talks about. To me, this explanation is neither logical

nor scientific. I respect your belief and I am sure Magda is a wonderful

homeopath. It's just that this is the 21st century and the diseases of today are

much more insidious than thet were 200 years ago and require a somewhat

different train of thought. Having said that, I believe detoxification can be

achieved. I am not speaking about vaccine detox via nosodes. There are other

ways to detox the body. In fact, because I have given up

nosodes, I am currently researching what detox will be next for Henry. Again

Kay, this is only my opinion and welcome everyone elses. Is it just vaccine

detox you don't think is possible or is it any given detox?

Anita

[Guest guest]

Kay,

I think I spend too much time thinking about this stuff. I don't think I

suggested that the body has changed, only that the viruses have. I do think the

body's way of responding to it has too. This is evident to me in the outrageous

amount of disesase responses, namely in children, that our we are faced with now

that were completely unheard of 100 or more years ago. People are breaking down

more and sooner than ever.

I do believe in energies that make up the vital force, the soul and possibly

more I am unaware of. The lack of logic and science pertained to the

invisibility of the immune system and that we rid ourselves of all but the

energy of vaccine viruses. I understand the basic principals EMF's and EM Chaos

and in way question the scientific aspect of it.

With science comes much mystery. That is why I am struggling with my quest for

the truth. Thank you for continually offering me things to think about.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

It's the ENERGY like Magda explained that continues to do the damage after the

material substances are elimintated. Cancer among other diseases can be a

result of vaccines, of course. But it's because the immune system has been

disabled and is no longer acting as the protectant in the body that it was

intended for.

The body has not changed in the last 200 years. And the way it responds to

dis-ease has not changed either. Energies are not a new concept or an old one

that has been explained away.

Can we see electricity or electromagnetic fields? No, we see the evidence of

it. Can we see the wind? No, but we see the evidence of it. Can we see the

body's soul or spirit? No, but when we see a dead person, we know that the part

of them that made them a living, breathing human being is gone.

The Vital Force is not some mysterious, new age, or Eastern mythical thought.

It is simply a form of electromagnetic energy that is a natural phenomenon and

nobody's invention. We know that exposure to electromagnetic fields from power

lines affects our health.

Extensive study by 2 American scientists, Harold Burr and Leonard Ravitz at Yale

University in 1972 showed that all human beings possess a complex

electro-magnetic energy field, and that it is this EMF which actually controls

the biochemical processes of our bodys and gives order and structure to them.

Biophysics is the study of this phenomena. So, I don't understand how you can

say it's " neither logical nor scientific. "

Homeopathic remedies are microdoses that consist only of electromagnetic energy

patterns that act on the body's own energy fields. It's nothing mysterious or

unscientific.

There was research done by a German biophysicist (Fritz-Albert Popp) in the

early 1980s which showed that the vital functions of living organisms were

clearly susceptible to the administration of potentised remedies. What was

actually measured was an energy emission, a manifestation of the electromagnetic

energy field, which correlates closely with many vital functions.

I personally don't see a need for detoxifying from anything when one can use

homeopathy in a safe and gentle manner (in the hands of an experienced classical

homeopath). A correctly taken case should indicate the correct remedy to

'unblock' the body's ability to cleanse and cure itself. That is enough. A

healthy body is capable of detoxing itself. So the remedy would be the

similimum, the remedy which would increase the overall health of the person.

You're asking some great questions, Anita.

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Kay,

I could agree with you if I didn't know or at least believe that the viruses

are NOT entirely eliminated through the stool or otherwise. Because the T-cell

response is suppressed by the nature of the vaccine, virus continues in the body

often manifesting in the most horrible of ways namely CANCER as described in the

History of Vaccines and What's Coming Through That Needle. I first doubted Magda

when she said the immune system could not be seen and described it as another

one of the energies she talks about. To me, this explanation is neither logical

nor scientific. I respect your belief and I am sure Magda is a wonderful

homeopath. It's just that this is the 21st century and the diseases of today are

much more insidious than thet were 200 years ago and require a somewhat

different train of thought. Having said that, I believe detoxification can be

achieved. I am not speaking about vaccine detox via nosodes. There are other

ways to detox the body. In fact, because I have given up

nosodes, I am currently researching what detox will be next for Henry. Again

Kay, this is only my opinion and welcome everyone elses. Is it just vaccine

detox you don't think is possible or is it any given detox?

Anita

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

I understand where you're coming from. I've only been studying homeopathy for

about 5 years now. It was VERY foreign to me in the beginning (especially being

a former registered nurse!) But the more I study it, the more it makes sense,

and allopathy is what has me scratching my head now! LOL

Yes, I agree, there are many more things to damage us in today's society than

our ancestors had to contend with. However, we are a product of our ancestor's

illnesses and diseases, too. It's cumulative and the damage gets more complex

as the generations continue.

I think you would be surprised at the number of disease responses there in fact

were years ago. Reading a homeopathic materia medica which lists all the

symptoms a homeopath uses to repertorize a case, you will see that there were no

stones left unturned. And these are books based on the provings done by

Hahnmann 200 years ago. They are very complex and detailed and fascinating to

read. I challenge you to find a symptom that is NOT listed in the materia

medica!

I respect your quest for truth, and applaud you for being open minded and

wanting to know the truth to begin with. So many are afraid to learn what the

truth is. I guess knowing that we've been wrong for so many years is too much

for many to handle. I am like you. I WANT to know if I'm on the right path or

not. I KNOW I have made major mistakes in some of the decisions I've made in

the past regarding my children's health care (namely allowing them to be

vaccinated, given antibiotics, steriods, etc.), but I have learned from those

mistakes.

I have a friend with a vaccine damaged son. She will NOT allow herself to admit

that it WAS the vaccines that led to his seizures and brain damage (although

that occurred right after they were given). She said she thought she was being

a good mother by having him vaccinated. The guilt is too much for her to bear by

admitting the truth. So, she prefers to believe the lie that vaccines are safe

and continues to have her other children vaccinated! I think her position is

not too uncommon, I'm afraid.

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Kay,

I think I spend too much time thinking about this stuff. I don't think I

suggested that the body has changed, only that the viruses have. I do think the

body's way of responding to it has too. This is evident to me in the outrageous

amount of disesase responses, namely in children, that our we are faced with now

that were completely unheard of 100 or more years ago. People are breaking down

more and sooner than ever.

I do believe in energies that make up the vital force, the soul and possibly

more I am unaware of. The lack of logic and science pertained to the

invisibility of the immune system and that we rid ourselves of all but the

energy of vaccine viruses. I understand the basic principals EMF's and EM Chaos

and in way question the scientific aspect of it.

With science comes much mystery. That is why I am struggling with my quest for

the truth. Thank you for continually offering me things to think about.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Kay,

Unfortunately, you are correct in saying her position of denial is not too

uncommon. This CONVENIENT and COMFORTABLE belief system only perpetuates the

damage. Merly Dorey talked about this being an inherent problem here in America

and she's right. It is hard to be humble sometimes and refrain from judging

others. Like the Bible says, " Forgive them for they know not what they do " . God

knows I try.

We are lucky to be brave enough to admit failure and deal with the UNCOMFORTABLE

fallout and actually be liberated by it. We may not agree on everything, but I'm

definately on your side sister.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

I understand where you're coming from. I've only been studying homeopathy for

about 5 years now. It was VERY foreign to me in the beginning (especially being

a former registered nurse!) But the more I study it, the more it makes sense,

and allopathy is what has me scratching my head now! LOL

Yes, I agree, there are many more things to damage us in today's society than

our ancestors had to contend with. However, we are a product of our ancestor's

illnesses and diseases, too. It's cumulative and the damage gets more complex

as the generations continue.

I think you would be surprised at the number of disease responses there in fact

were years ago. Reading a homeopathic materia medica which lists all the

symptoms a homeopath uses to repertorize a case, you will see that there were no

stones left unturned. And these are books based on the provings done by

Hahnmann 200 years ago. They are very complex and detailed and fascinating to

read. I challenge you to find a symptom that is NOT listed in the materia

medica!

I respect your quest for truth, and applaud you for being open minded and

wanting to know the truth to begin with. So many are afraid to learn what the

truth is. I guess knowing that we've been wrong for so many years is too much

for many to handle. I am like you. I WANT to know if I'm on the right path or

not. I KNOW I have made major mistakes in some of the decisions I've made in

the past regarding my children's health care (namely allowing them to be

vaccinated, given antibiotics, steriods, etc.), but I have learned from those

mistakes.

I have a friend with a vaccine damaged son. She will NOT allow herself to admit

that it WAS the vaccines that led to his seizures and brain damage (although

that occurred right after they were given). She said she thought she was being

a good mother by having him vaccinated. The guilt is too much for her to bear by

admitting the truth. So, she prefers to believe the lie that vaccines are safe

and continues to have her other children vaccinated! I think her position is

not too uncommon, I'm afraid.

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Kay,

I think I spend too much time thinking about this stuff. I don't think I

suggested that the body has changed, only that the viruses have. I do think the

body's way of responding to it has too. This is evident to me in the outrageous

amount of disesase responses, namely in children, that our we are faced with now

that were completely unheard of 100 or more years ago. People are breaking down

more and sooner than ever.

I do believe in energies that make up the vital force, the soul and possibly

more I am unaware of. The lack of logic and science pertained to the

invisibility of the immune system and that we rid ourselves of all but the

energy of vaccine viruses. I understand the basic principals EMF's and EM Chaos

and in way question the scientific aspect of it.

With science comes much mystery. That is why I am struggling with my quest for

the truth. Thank you for continually offering me things to think about.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's true. I for one have to remember that I, too, was once on the

" other side of the fence " living quite comfortably " inside the box. " It's

through people like Sheri Nakken and my homeopath, Magda Aguila, and others that

I learned there was another, safer way. So, I try to carry it forward and help

educate others. I'm so thankful for the people I've met over the last 5 years

who have patiently answered my questions and calmed my fears as I stepped into

the unknown.

Yes, we're definitely on the same side.

Kay

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Kay,

Unfortunately, you are correct in saying her position of denial is not too

uncommon. This CONVENIENT and COMFORTABLE belief system only perpetuates the

damage. Merly Dorey talked about this being an inherent problem here in America

and she's right. It is hard to be humble sometimes and refrain from judging

others. Like the Bible says, " Forgive them for they know not what they do " . God

knows I try.

We are lucky to be brave enough to admit failure and deal with the

UNCOMFORTABLE fallout and actually be liberated by it. We may not agree on

everything, but I'm definately on your side sister.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Whoa. As far as I know, an Homoepath - classical would support your efforts to

continue breastfeeding, NOT weaning. One year is too young if you are inclined

to breastfeed. Keep it up and let yourself and your baby decide on the weaning.

NO-ONE else.

Your baby may be getting some of your sugars/dairy/wheat etc along with

everything else, but ... find another HP. Also an Chiropractor.

As for emtional growth stunt - I'd say anyone who's not been long-term breastfed

is the one who's emotionally stunted.

I could go on and on about the wonders of breastfeeding, but I won't. My next

statement should say it all! :

, Mum of Simone, breastfed til the age of 6 1/2. TRUE!

ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking for

a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my baby

already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

dependent on mother.

now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

ella

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

fire- Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

!! Not here they don't. Or at least not in our local area. There's one we know

of (a few rather, in the same store) who claim to be Naturopaths, yet have no

idea about vaccine damage, acupuncture etc... and do not see a Chiropractor.

Another who is employed by the local council works at the swimming pool and

SUPPORTS VACCINATION!!

....again!

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

,

A naturopathic doctor is fully educated in homeopathy and may use it as part

of a total treatment plan.They are typically well versed in and often

incorporate clinical nutrition, Chinese medicine and acupucture, botanical

medicine, spinal and soft tissue adjustments and lifestyle counceling. Like the

homeopath, the naturopath interviews the patient to get to the root of the

problem.

Anita

<jsprecourt@...> wrote:

My naturopath (is there a difference between naturopath and

homeopath, and if so- what is the difference?) suggests breastfeeding

as long as possible, with introducing food as late as possible as

well. I would imagine if there was something in your milk that was

harming your child, you would just do what is in the best interest

for your child. Not sure if that is what your homeopath was meaning?

--- maria ella galang-ampongan <ryankachupi@...> wrote:

> I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking

> for

> a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my

> baby

> already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

> another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

> dependent on mother.

>

> now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

>

> ella

>

> --

> Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

> fire- Yeats

>

> http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

> http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hear Hear!!

ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking for

a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my baby

already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

dependent on mother.

now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

ella

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

fire- Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

An Homoeopath and Chiro rolled into one. Now THAT would be perfect. There'd

have to be a few of them though, just in case something happened to one of them,

went on holiday or something....

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

Hi Kay,

If I were to employ a naturopathic doctor, I would ask the important questions

regarding homeopathy.Certainly some of their other practices can be suppressive.

By the same token, If I were to employ a homeopath, I would ask them about their

knowledge of nutrition and the immune system. Since homeopaths treat sysmptoms

only, I feel many problems could be avoided with lifestyle advice in the area of

prevention and nutritional counceling. If that homeopath were a chiropractor as

well, this person would be my dream caregiver. No matter your specialty, being

well rounded gives you the cutting edge. Prevention is cure. Just my opinion.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Not necessarily. A naturopath MAY have additional education in homeopathy.

Here's something Sheri N. has posted about naturopaths in the past:

" I'm not a big fan of ND's as they know a little about a lot of things and are

able to help with I call maintaining causes but I don't see them being able to

get at the root of issues like a homeopath can, unless the naturopath has gone

onto specialize in homeopathy which is another 3 or 4 years after it all.

I see naturopaths as still suppressing illness in many cases by just using

natural substances. But they are good at getting to the root of nutritional

stuff and other things.

We need more excellent homeopaths which ONLY do homeopathy which is a whole

system that heals.

Just my 2 cents "

Most naturopaths do NOT have the extensive training in homeopathy needed to

treat chronic issues. There are short courses in homeopathy that is typically

all the training most of them get.

If using a naturopath for homeopathy, I would recommend you find out exactly

what their training and background is in homeopathy alone. Trying to treat

chronic issues without extensive knowledge and experience can lead to major

problems.

Kay

*****************************************

A naturopathic doctor is fully educated in homeopathy and may use it as part

of a total treatment plan.They are typically well versed in and often

incorporate clinical nutrition, Chinese medicine and acupucture, botanical

medicine, spinal and soft tissue adjustments and lifestyle counceling. Like the

homeopath, the naturopath interviews the patient to get to the root of the

problem.

Anita

<jsprecourt@...> wrote:

My naturopath (is there a difference between naturopath and

homeopath, and if so- what is the difference?) suggests breastfeeding

as long as possible, with introducing food as late as possible as

well. I would imagine if there was something in your milk that was

harming your child, you would just do what is in the best interest

for your child. Not sure if that is what your homeopath was meaning?

[Guest guest]

Like allopaths there will be homeopaths who try to convince you into doing

things they see are the *right way*.It is their personal opinion based on

whatever research they feel supports their view.If they can not help you

homeopathically then find another.I would never wean a child because someone

told me I should,and I would not feel comfortable with any future advice they

give.

Best wishes!

US Vaccine Injury Compensation: http://www.hrsa.gov/osp/vicp/INDEX.HTM

What Circumcision cuts away FOREVER:

http://www.norm.org/lost.html

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I guess like everything else, what should be and what is are very different

things.

Anita

McGrath <simonecassie@...> wrote:

!! Not here they don't. Or at least not in our local area. There's one we know

of (a few rather, in the same store) who claim to be Naturopaths, yet have no

idea about vaccine damage, acupuncture etc... and do not see a Chiropractor.

Another who is employed by the local council works at the swimming pool and

SUPPORTS VACCINATION!!

....again!

Re: ot: homeopath suggestion to wean

,

A naturopathic doctor is fully educated in homeopathy and may use it as part

of a total treatment plan.They are typically well versed in and often

incorporate clinical nutrition, Chinese medicine and acupucture, botanical

medicine, spinal and soft tissue adjustments and lifestyle counceling. Like the

homeopath, the naturopath interviews the patient to get to the root of the

problem.

Anita

<jsprecourt@...> wrote:

My naturopath (is there a difference between naturopath and

homeopath, and if so- what is the difference?) suggests breastfeeding

as long as possible, with introducing food as late as possible as

well. I would imagine if there was something in your milk that was

harming your child, you would just do what is in the best interest

for your child. Not sure if that is what your homeopath was meaning?

--- maria ella galang-ampongan <ryankachupi@...> wrote:

> I've been going from one homeopath to the next, since i'm looking

> for

> a classical one, one homeopath i've talked to told me to wean my

> baby

> already (he's one) since i might be causing his congestion (cough),

> another told me to wean because it stunts emotional growth to be

> dependent on mother.

>

> now i'm wondering, is this true about all homeopaths?

>

> ella

>

> --

> Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a

> fire- Yeats

>

> http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

> http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

>

__________________________________________________