Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 sheeeezzz..I guess I should be thankful Texas has a " reasons of conscience " clause for exemp. I was shocked to find how much more progressive they were compared to other states! I had a girl from OHio tell me that if people there found out you didnt vax they would report you to child protective service!! > , > > IL does NOT have a personal belief clause. You have to read the whole thing. IF your exemption doesn't state a " higher power, spiritual being, God, etc... " it can and probably will be denied. > > What b2 is saying is that you do not have to be tied to a religious organization that speicifically denies the use of vaccinations, but that they can be your own personal religious belief. For instance.... the archdiocese (until recently) fully supported the use of all vaccines (I guess the new pope has some issues with the ones with aborted fetal cells), that doesn't mean that a Catholic parishoner can't apply for a religious exemption based on their own beliefs. > > I wish we had a philisophical exemption! It makes me crazy, but apparently all but one of the members of the Illinois vaccine committee (I have no idea what it's called) all have ties to pHARMa, so there's no way that legislation is going to let this one pass without one major fight. I'll stick to the safety of my religiosu exemption. I don't belong to a church with anti-vax in its tenets either. I got the ideas for my wording for my letter from the IVAC. http://www.vaccineawareness.org/ i didn't copy it word for word, but just used it as a basis for my letters. > > I used the personal religous belief. I know 2 others that have, and have had no problems with their doctors or the schools. All in this district, but the superintendent is the one that determines the validity of an exemption. I know my letter to theschool was much more detailed than the one that I gave to the doctor. I crashed and didn't back up my originals. With the doctors, I just answered all the nurses questions and then when the nurse walked out before the doc walked in, I put my exemption letter on the counter. So far, so good with the new pediatrician. > > > > > > This message has been processed by Brightmail® AntiVirus using > > Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. > > > > Unknown00000000.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels > > of files were found. > > > > > > For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit > http://www.brightmail.com/antivirus . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 - I did read the whole thing. It states, " The religious objection may be personal and need not be directed by the tenets of an established religious organizaton. " Still looks like it comes down to personal belief to me, but they can insist on calling that religion if they want. My religion is I don't want my kids to be damaged unnecessarily - how's that for religion?!! Thanks for the link, it has some good info - I see what you are saying from the examples there. I still think the whole thing is a crock, though!! > , > > IL does NOT have a personal belief clause. You have to read the whole thing. IF your exemption doesn't state a " higher power, spiritual being, God, etc... " it can and probably will be denied. > > What b2 is saying is that you do not have to be tied to a religious organization that speicifically denies the use of vaccinations, but that they can be your own personal religious belief. For instance.... the archdiocese (until recently) fully supported the use of all vaccines (I guess the new pope has some issues with the ones with aborted fetal cells), that doesn't mean that a Catholic parishoner can't apply for a religious exemption based on their own beliefs. > > I wish we had a philisophical exemption! It makes me crazy, but apparently all but one of the members of the Illinois vaccine committee (I have no idea what it's called) all have ties to pHARMa, so there's no way that legislation is going to let this one pass without one major fight. I'll stick to the safety of my religiosu exemption. I don't belong to a church with anti-vax in its tenets either. I got the ideas for my wording for my letter from the IVAC. http://www.vaccineawareness.org/ i didn't copy it word for word, but just used it as a basis for my letters. > > I used the personal religous belief. I know 2 others that have, and have had no problems with their doctors or the schools. All in this district, but the superintendent is the one that determines the validity of an exemption. I know my letter to theschool was much more detailed than the one that I gave to the doctor. I crashed and didn't back up my originals. With the doctors, I just answered all the nurses questions and then when the nurse walked out before the doc walked in, I put my exemption letter on the counter. So far, so good with the new pediatrician. > > > > > > This message has been processed by Brightmail® AntiVirus using > > Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. > > > > Unknown00000000.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels > > of files were found. > > > > > > For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit > http://www.brightmail.com/antivirus . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 It sounds like has a wonderful " religion " to me. Tim Re: in LaGrange - I did read the whole thing. It states, " The religious objection may be personal and need not be directed by the tenets of an established religious organizaton. " Still looks like it comes down to personal belief to me, but they can insist on calling that religion if they want. My religion is I don't want my kids to be damaged unnecessarily - how's that for religion?!! Thanks for the link, it has some good info - I see what you are saying from the examples there. I still think the whole thing is a crock, though!! > , > > IL does NOT have a personal belief clause. You have to read the whole thing. IF your exemption doesn't state a " higher power, spiritual being, God, etc... " it can and probably will be denied. > > What b2 is saying is that you do not have to be tied to a religious organization that speicifically denies the use of vaccinations, but that they can be your own personal religious belief. For instance.... the archdiocese (until recently) fully supported the use of all vaccines (I guess the new pope has some issues with the ones with aborted fetal cells), that doesn't mean that a Catholic parishoner can't apply for a religious exemption based on their own beliefs. > > I wish we had a philisophical exemption! It makes me crazy, but apparently all but one of the members of the Illinois vaccine committee (I have no idea what it's called) all have ties to pHARMa, so there's no way that legislation is going to let this one pass without one major fight. I'll stick to the safety of my religiosu exemption. I don't belong to a church with anti-vax in its tenets either. I got the ideas for my wording for my letter from the IVAC. http://www.vaccineawareness.org/ i didn't copy it word for word, but just used it as a basis for my letters. > > I used the personal religous belief. I know 2 others that have, and have had no problems with their doctors or the schools. All in this district, but the superintendent is the one that determines the validity of an exemption. I know my letter to theschool was much more detailed than the one that I gave to the doctor. I crashed and didn't back up my originals. With the doctors, I just answered all the nurses questions and then when the nurse walked out before the doc walked in, I put my exemption letter on the counter. So far, so good with the new pediatrician. > > > > > > This message has been processed by Brightmail® AntiVirus using > > Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. > > > > Unknown00000000.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels > > of files were found. > > > > > > For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit > http://www.brightmail.com/antivirus . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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