OT Re: Immunity Building Question?

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okay, i'm putting the 'OT' in front of the subject,

because this *is* a list about vaccinations, and

whilst I wholeheartedly agree that the subject itself

inevitably leads to other health related issues, there

are members here who only want to read vax related

posts. i also ask EVERYONE to do the same. if you wish

to post an off topic email, by all means do. within

reason that is. the worst that'll happen is you get a

bollocking from one of the moderators for posting an

ot subject, and the best is that you start a lively

debate and improve some reader's health. of course

it's also quite likely that a moderator will put a

stop on an OT subject if there are too many posts.

that's why the OT4VAX list was started on which ALL

subjects are allowed. on there we've had some lively

discussions about all and sundry and not necessarily

health related either. as most of you know i'm way too

dim when it comes to posting relevant links, therefore

i rely on one of you to post the link to the OT4VAX

list. :-)

having said all that, i can't resist commenting on

christa's mail...

> www.westonaprice.org

yep, there's pretty good info there. as long as you

don't read the vax stuff if it's still there... maybe

they've changed it or taken it off altogether. well i

can hope, can't i....

> I first started with switching all of my household

> cleaning products, toiletries, and bath and body

> products to all natural chemical free products.

umh yeah. i stopped using the chemical crap years

ago. it' so easy. all you ever need is borax (which is

soooooooo much easier in the US than in the UK!!!),

baking soda, citric acid and vinegar. i kid you not -

that'll take care of all your cleaning requirements

including your body and hair. then came the bodycare

stuff... i make my own moisturizer: in summer beeswax,

apricot kernel oil, coconut oil, and a choice of

essential oils (my current favorite is vanilla and

petit grain). in winter: coconut oil, apricot kernel

oil or avocado oil, and choice of EOs. for make up,

well, eye make up: a crushed medicinal charcoal tablet

makes a gorgeous grey eye shadow, an asian black

powder works real well as an eye liner, and oh merlin

i'm still using a vegan health food store bought

mascara, haven't found a substitute for it yet. if you

want red lips, get some black walnut powder and rub

your lips with it, they'll be really red for awhile.

> We use to drink pasteurized whole milk and now we

> drink raw milk (non homogenized/non pasteurized,

> straight from the cow) you can get this from local

> farms and you can find this information on where to

> get it on westonaprice.org

again, real easy for the US. the UK isn't half as well

covered where raw milk is concerned. funny enough,

i've just returned from a 5 months stay in pakistan

and had a job educating people to NOT boil the milk

they get from their local milkman (which comes

straight from the cow). i personally had a ball making

various cheeses that can be made with easily available

cultures like vinegar or citric acid. but in the third

world it seems like they wanna do everything the way

the western nations do, so therefore they boil the

milk to death. :-(

> we use to use country crock butter and now we use

> organic valley butter

we make our own from organic cream. it's easy to make

and great fun for the kids shaking jars of cream,

running to the end of the road with the jar in hand

and by the time they get back they've butter! great

homeschool project, lol.

> we use to use white bread and now we soak our whole

> wheat flour in yoghurt for 24 hours and make our own

> bread

when i have a home with a functional oven i tend to

use spelt rather than wheat and instead of water use

the whey from cheese making. it produces wonderful

bread and seems to get rid of some symptoms,

especially sinus related.

> we use to use regular table salt and now we use

> celtic sea salt

good other salts are himalaya salt (far less pollution

than any sea salt), rock salt from reputable sources,

black salt from asia. they all contain loads of

minerals and trace elements but aren't as much

polluted as commercial sea or rock salts.

> so you just start switching all of your foods one at

> a

> time and start eliminating the bad foods all

> together.

absolutely! do it one by one, and get interested in

CREATING food rather than just feeling dragged by

having to fill the family's stomachs. creating meals

can be a family experience which will contribute to

your health because you're doing a family thing and

it's great fun.

> GET rid of your microwave, get all stainless steel

> cookware,glass cookware, or cast iron pans and get

> rid

> of anything aluminum.

i absolutely agree. a microwave is okay if you do silk

painting - the effects of fixing the paint to the silk

is amazing. but don't use it for food, it'll nuke the

food and the effects are so bad that they're not

published. there's something fishy about stainless

steel, too, it's probably on john's site, cuz i'm sure

he was the one to tell me about it. www.whale.to

> Also read the back of nourishing Traditions to find

> out where to buy the purest natural products

> including

> cod liver oil, acerola powder, and so forth.

what is 'acerola powder'? it doesn't ring a bell with

me and i've been taking vitamin c for ages and read

loads about it.

claudia

" None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free " -

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/lady_karelia

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anita,

i don't know. if it's truly natural and non-poisonous

then i'd probably try it out. i don't have a sweet

tooth luckily, so i never go out of my way to look for

the natural sweetening stuff beyond stevia or fruit

sugar, and those only because of hubby who can't take

sugar. the asian use raw sugar canes for brushing

teeth and heck if i had their teeth i'd be happy! so

" sugar " can't be all bad, i figure it's the processing

that does it...

becoming healthy, or rather, adapting to a lifestyle

that avoids artificial things does not have to be

inconvenient! i'll be the first one to admit i spell

Convenience with a capital c (and you know i don't

usually do capital letters *snigger*). it's finding

the most convenient way to go about things... do you

find it more convenient to use, say, shampoo, then

every now and then deal with nits the kids bring home

from the playground, every other now and then deal

with dandruff, every now and then deal with extremely

dry skin/scalp etc, or is it more convenient to fill

an old bottle with a mix of borax and water and use

that as a shampoo and fill another old bottle with a

mix of citric acid and water and use those two instead

of shampoo and conditioner and know that your hair is

not only clean but also free of residues and therefore

no longer prone to dryness, nits, dandruff and

whatever other problems might arise from using

chemical shampoos... the same goes for doing laundry.

i find a mix of borax with baking soda, followed in

the laundry softener compartment with vinegar will

clean your clothes very well, with no residues of

chemicals, and on top of that it'll avoid scale

build-up in the washing machine. no real hard job

there...

okay, fair enough, when it comes to using soap and

'cosmetics' i'll be the first one to admit that i like

dabbling in " potions " . i make my own soap,

moisturizer, massage oil etc, because it's a hobby. i

always have about half of what i make to give away.

find someone near you who does that and start

bartering :-)

i find, or rather learned that it's a matter of

adjusting a point of view rather than 'oh i wish i

knew how they do it' kind of thing. experiment, join

lists about bartering, soap making, cheese-making, or

whatever your interest is in " making " . you'll be

surprised.

the biggest job is to get out of the attitude of

living in a " pre-fabricated " society. once you get

beyond that, the sky is your limit.

:-)

claudia

--- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

> ,

> Can I get a thumbs up for using natural cane

> turbinado sugar from Hawaii? I also recently saw

> Dominos Organic Sugar and bought it. Am I waisting

> my money on that one? I'm such a creature of

> convenience. I don't know how some of you do the

> things you do. I'll get there.

> Anita

" None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free " -

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/lady_karelia

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Borax is what my mother and grandmother used when I was a small child. That and

brown soap. I'll see if I can find at my local Convenient Supermarket. Thank you

dear.

Anita

<claudiaayaz@...> wrote:

anita,

i don't know. if it's truly natural and non-poisonous

then i'd probably try it out. i don't have a sweet

tooth luckily, so i never go out of my way to look for

the natural sweetening stuff beyond stevia or fruit

sugar, and those only because of hubby who can't take

sugar. the asian use raw sugar canes for brushing

teeth and heck if i had their teeth i'd be happy! so

" sugar " can't be all bad, i figure it's the processing

that does it...

becoming healthy, or rather, adapting to a lifestyle

that avoids artificial things does not have to be

inconvenient! i'll be the first one to admit i spell

Convenience with a capital c (and you know i don't

usually do capital letters *snigger*). it's finding

the most convenient way to go about things... do you

find it more convenient to use, say, shampoo, then

every now and then deal with nits the kids bring home

from the playground, every other now and then deal

with dandruff, every now and then deal with extremely

dry skin/scalp etc, or is it more convenient to fill

an old bottle with a mix of borax and water and use

that as a shampoo and fill another old bottle with a

mix of citric acid and water and use those two instead

of shampoo and conditioner and know that your hair is

not only clean but also free of residues and therefore

no longer prone to dryness, nits, dandruff and

whatever other problems might arise from using

chemical shampoos... the same goes for doing laundry.

i find a mix of borax with baking soda, followed in

the laundry softener compartment with vinegar will

clean your clothes very well, with no residues of

chemicals, and on top of that it'll avoid scale

build-up in the washing machine. no real hard job

there...

okay, fair enough, when it comes to using soap and

'cosmetics' i'll be the first one to admit that i like

dabbling in " potions " . i make my own soap,

moisturizer, massage oil etc, because it's a hobby. i

always have about half of what i make to give away.

find someone near you who does that and start

bartering :-)

i find, or rather learned that it's a matter of

adjusting a point of view rather than 'oh i wish i

knew how they do it' kind of thing. experiment, join

lists about bartering, soap making, cheese-making, or

whatever your interest is in " making " . you'll be

surprised.

the biggest job is to get out of the attitude of

living in a " pre-fabricated " society. once you get

beyond that, the sky is your limit.

:-)

claudia

--- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

> ,

> Can I get a thumbs up for using natural cane

> turbinado sugar from Hawaii? I also recently saw

> Dominos Organic Sugar and bought it. Am I waisting

> my money on that one? I'm such a creature of

> convenience. I don't know how some of you do the

> things you do. I'll get there.

> Anita

" None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free " -

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/lady_karelia

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you could just can your tomato sauce in mason jars

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