Re: Religious exemptions - anyone know Scripture I can use?

[Guest guest]

Actually it's illegal for anyone to " drill " you on your specific religious

beliefs when it comes to exemptions for school or doctor's offices.

Now, if you're talking about a friend or relative or someone asking you about a

religious exemption and particular beliefs, that's a whole other story.

Kay

Religious exemptions - anyone know Scripture I can

use?

I don't want to get religious on here as it is not the purpose for this group,

but we have mentioned exemptions for private, Christian schools, etc... In my

state of NC I have filed a religious exemption for my youngest as Christians.

While this is a truthful exemption for us, I have heard that the Bible says

somewhere about not putting anything foreign into one's body. Now, I'm basing

my religious exemption on my gut feeling that God would not want me to

intentionally inflict harm on my child but I'd like to know where the

" acceptable " scriptures are in case anyone " drills " me.

Anyone know what these might be and where I can find them in the Good Book?

If you feel more comfortable sending it to me offline that's OK too.

Sheri B.

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

Religious exemption is all we have to " choose " from here in FLA too,

but anyone who knows anything about me knows I am not a religious

person, so if ever " cornered " for whatever reason (assuming we finally

choose NOT to vax) I am planning on using the 4th definition below as

my " defense " . Officially I certainly have that and hey, the

dictionary says that is " religion! " :

re·li·gion

1.

a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers

regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such

belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings

of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or

conscientious devotion.

HTH

(another tall chick!)

> I don't want to get religious on here as it is not the purpose for

this group, but we have mentioned exemptions for private, Christian

schools, etc... In my state of NC I have filed a religious exemption

for my youngest as Christians. While this is a truthful exemption for

us, I have heard that the Bible says somewhere about not putting

anything foreign into one's body. Now, I'm basing my religious

exemption on my gut feeling that God would not want me to

intentionally inflict harm on my child but I'd like to know where the

" acceptable " scriptures are in case anyone " drills " me.

>

> Anyone know what these might be and where I can find them in the

Good Book? If you feel more comfortable sending it to me offline

that's OK too.

>

> Sheri B.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Here is a website with tons of information relating to vaccines and religious

beliefs. I believe it's mainly from a Catholic standpoint, but it may contain

some of the information you're looking for: http://www.cogforlife.org/

Kay

Religious exemptions - anyone know Scripture I can

use?

Anyone know what these might be and where I can find them in the Good Book?

If you feel more comfortable sending it to me offline that's OK too.

Sheri B.

[Guest guest]

I like to think that when we claim religious exempt here on Ohio that it

goes along with No 4.

A lot of people are religious about things....say they religiously wash

their cars on Sat or

religiously watch a certain program every week, etc. Or religion is a

belief. Since I do not follow a

religious schedule in vaxxing my children and since I do not believe in them

as they do not deliver what they imply(safe immunity against diseases)...

they are against

my religion. So i check that box and the philosophical exempt and don't add

explanations

they don't have the right to know.

Laurie>Oh

re·li·gion

1.

a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers

regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such

belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings

of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or

conscientious devotion.

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

The following web site has a biblical view on vaccinations including scriptures.

www.vaccinationsandsids.com . Enter " Vaccinations and Sids Site " and your

there!

God Bless,

Camisha

Kentucky mom to Noah, , and Tirzah

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

I don't want to get religious on here as it is not the purpose for this group,

but we have mentioned exemptions for private, Christian schools, etc... In my

state of NC I have filed a religious exemption for my youngest as Christians.

While this is a truthful exemption for us, I have heard that the Bible says

somewhere about not putting anything foreign into one's body. Now, I'm basing

my religious exemption on my gut feeling that God would not want me to

intentionally inflict harm on my child but I'd like to know where the

" acceptable " scriptures are in case anyone " drills " me.

Anyone know what these might be and where I can find them in the Good Book? If

you feel more comfortable sending it to me offline that's OK too.

Sheri B.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

I am a christian with a religious exemption. I do not have any

scriptures in my exemption letter - nor do I intend to put any there.

The law doesn't state that I must use scripture, nor does it say I

must debate anyone about it. Therefore, I have followed the law - end

of story! If NC law doesn't state you must use scripture or debate

anyone, I wouldn't worry about it.

My 2 cents,

> I don't want to get religious on here as it is not the purpose for

this group, but we have mentioned exemptions for private, Christian

schools, etc... In my state of NC I have filed a religious exemption

for my youngest as Christians. While this is a truthful exemption

[Guest guest]

Yes although I don't have the exact verse The bible

also teaches " I shall trust in the lord and not in

Man. "

I think it is in Corinthians

--- Camisha Noble <grneyedmish@...> wrote:

> Sheri,

> The following web site has a biblical view on

> vaccinations including scriptures.

> www.vaccinationsandsids.com . Enter " Vaccinations

> and Sids Site " and your there!

> God Bless,

> Camisha

> Kentucky mom to Noah, , and Tirzah

>

> " Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

> I don't want to get religious on here as it is not

> the purpose for this group, but we have mentioned

> exemptions for private, Christian schools, etc... In

> my state of NC I have filed a religious exemption

> for my youngest as Christians. While this is a

> truthful exemption for us, I have heard that the

> Bible says somewhere about not putting anything

> foreign into one's body. Now, I'm basing my

> religious exemption on my gut feeling that God would

> not want me to intentionally inflict harm on my

> child but I'd like to know where the " acceptable "

> scriptures are in case anyone " drills " me.

>

> Anyone know what these might be and where I can find

> them in the Good Book? If you feel more comfortable

> sending it to me offline that's OK too.

>

> Sheri B.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

This site is awesome. And I am grateful because I

think I finally found a doctor in WNY, who may not

harrass me about my religious exemption.

God knows that I have been trying to find one for so

long. I already called her and hopefully could set up

an appointment to visit with her for a few minutes...

Thanks Kay!

****

B/

--- KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

> Here is a website with tons of information relating

> to vaccines and religious beliefs. I believe it's

> mainly from a Catholic standpoint, but it may

> contain some of the information you're looking for:

> http://www.cogforlife.org/

>

> Kay

> Religious exemptions -

> anyone know Scripture I can use?

>

>

> Anyone know what these might be and where I can

> find them in the Good Book? If you feel more

> comfortable sending it to me offline that's OK too.

>

> Sheri B.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

" When we give government

the power to make medical decisions

for us, we, in essence, accept that

the state owns our bodies. "

~U.S.Representative Ron , MD

The Nuremberg Code (to which NZ is a signatory) describes Informed Choice as:

- A choice made on the basis of adequate information concerning research and all

available alternatives.

- A choice made without controlling influences such as force, fraud, deceit,

duress, over-reaching or other forms of constraint or coercion.

Does this not apply to us?

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Wonderful! Glad it was helpful for you!! : )

Kay

Re: Religious exemptions - anyone know Scripture I can

use?

This site is awesome. And I am grateful because I

think I finally found a doctor in WNY, who may not

harrass me about my religious exemption.

God knows that I have been trying to find one for so

long. I already called her and hopefully could set up

an appointment to visit with her for a few minutes...

Thanks Kay!

****

B

[Guest guest]

Good point. I was mostly just curious for myself and in case it came up in

conversation with friends who might take that slant more seriously.

I know in my heart that God has led me to this and not much could change that,

if anything.

Thanks for all your replies!

Sheri B.

jna_mom <happymom2_3@...> wrote:

Sheri,

I am a christian with a religious exemption. I do not have any

scriptures in my exemption letter - nor do I intend to put any there.

The law doesn't state that I must use scripture, nor does it say I

must debate anyone about it.

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[Guest guest]

I know a woman in Ohio who uses this verse for school exemptions, and

no one has ever given her grief about it:

9:12 (King Version)

" But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need

not a physician, but they that are sick. "

She's used it in 1 private preschool and 4 public schools plus summer

camps, etc.

When they ask for the shot record when she's registering, she just

hands them a sheet with a few words and this verse and her signature,

and that's that.

violet~*

[Guest guest]

Ohio has a philosophical exemption, so just a person stating they don't believe

in vaxing and signing a form is usually all they need. With some religious

exemptions in some states, it gets a bit trickier. Again, everyone needs to

know what THEIR state requires.

Kay

Re: Religious exemptions - anyone know Scripture I can

use?

I know a woman in Ohio who uses this verse for school exemptions, and

no one has ever given her grief about it:

9:12 (King Version)

" But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need

not a physician, but they that are sick. "

She's used it in 1 private preschool and 4 public schools plus summer

camps, etc.

When they ask for the shot record when she's registering, she just

hands them a sheet with a few words and this verse and her signature,

and that's that.

violet~*

[Guest guest]

Kay,

Yes, I was really looking to find something for personal discussions with

friends at our Quaker Meeting or other people who consider themselves in the

Christian vein. Thanks to all of you for the great links and references.

The rest of the " authorities " can just accept my letter of exemption!!

Ya know, some Christians feel that they must be submissive to the Government and

make reference to Jesus' famous " render unto Caesar " speech. I don't buy that

for one minute. We were not intended to be doormats. Isn't there some

Scripture that makes reference to being as peaceful as doves and as cunning as

serpents? (Anyone know where this Scripture can be found??)

Of course, I question most everything! LOL My parents wonder under what rock

they found

me! They get so frustrated with me. Have always been the Devil's Advocate, so

to speak, on most things. It must be hard to be married to me. LOL

Sheri B.

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sheri, Camisha Here,

Your scripture is Matt. 10:16, Jesus said to His deciples before sending them

out: Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therfore

wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Also, I used this in my letter along with my exemption to our ped: Hosea 4:6 My

people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou has rejected

knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shall be no priest to me: seeing

thou has fogotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Knowing that when you have chosen to go agianst the " status quo " you rub people

the wrong way. In 15:19 Jesus said If ye were of the world, the world

would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you

out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

There are also several references in 17:14-16 regarding not being of the

world (conforming) and being hated for that.

You have back bone and you stand for what you believe. In my experience, those

who critize you for that only envy you for being so bold. Cowards, jellyfish,

mushrooms (those who allow themselves to be kept in the dark and feed BS). This

is the easy road and most of society would rather live in the dark. You are

truly a minority, but not alone, in how you feel. Keep the faith!

Camisha

Kentucky mom to Noah, , and Tirzah

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

Kay,

Yes, I was really looking to find something for personal discussions with

friends at our Quaker Meeting or other people who consider themselves in the

Christian vein. Thanks to all of you for the great links and references.

The rest of the " authorities " can just accept my letter of exemption!!

Ya know, some Christians feel that they must be submissive to the Government and

make reference to Jesus' famous " render unto Caesar " speech. I don't buy that

for one minute. We were not intended to be doormats. Isn't there some

Scripture that makes reference to being as peaceful as doves and as cunning as

serpents? (Anyone know where this Scripture can be found??)

Of course, I question most everything! LOL My parents wonder under what rock

they found

me! They get so frustrated with me. Have always been the Devil's Advocate, so

to speak, on most things. It must be hard to be married to me. LOL

Sheri B.

---------------------------------

Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

[Guest guest]

good one!!!

--- kaeviolet <kaeviolet@...> wrote:

> I know a woman in Ohio who uses this verse for

> school exemptions, and

> no one has ever given her grief about it:

>

> 9:12 (King Version)

> " But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They

> that be whole need

> not a physician, but they that are sick. "

>

> She's used it in 1 private preschool and 4 public

> schools plus summer

> camps, etc.

>

> When they ask for the shot record when she's

> registering, she just

> hands them a sheet with a few words and this verse

> and her signature,

> and that's that.

>

> violet~*

>

>

>

>

>

>

" When we give government

the power to make medical decisions

for us, we, in essence, accept that

the state owns our bodies. "

~U.S.Representative Ron , MD

The Nuremberg Code (to which NZ is a signatory) describes Informed Choice as:

- A choice made on the basis of adequate information concerning research and all

available alternatives.

- A choice made without controlling influences such as force, fraud, deceit,

duress, over-reaching or other forms of constraint or coercion.

Does this not apply to us?

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In New York you only have to say that vaccinating goes against your religious

beliefs. Unless the school denies you and you end up in court, you don't have to

justify or explain your personally held belief. Unfortunately I did have to sign

a waiver and admit that I am endangereing my child by not vaccinating. I didn't

let that bother me. It's a matter of moral conscience and I will do whats

necessary to protect my children from harmful diseases being purposefully

injected into a perfectly healthy, disease-free child in anticipation of

disease. As for their class-mates, I had to remind the school nurse that if

these children are in fact immunised, my child couldn't possibly pose a threat

to them and refer to waiver I signed stating that my child is the one at risk. I

just use their own crap against them (politely of course).

I do like that Verse and plan to mark it in my Bible.

Thanks,

Anita

peacanpr@... wrote:

good one!!!

--- kaeviolet <kaeviolet@...> wrote:

> I know a woman in Ohio who uses this verse for

> school exemptions, and

> no one has ever given her grief about it:

>

> 9:12 (King Version)

> " But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They

> that be whole need

> not a physician, but they that are sick. "

>

> She's used it in 1 private preschool and 4 public

> schools plus summer

> camps, etc.

>

> When they ask for the shot record when she's

> registering, she just

> hands them a sheet with a few words and this verse

> and her signature,

> and that's that.

>

> violet~*

>

>

>

>

>

>

" When we give government

the power to make medical decisions

for us, we, in essence, accept that

the state owns our bodies. "

~U.S.Representative Ron , MD

The Nuremberg Code (to which NZ is a signatory) describes Informed Choice as:

- A choice made on the basis of adequate information concerning research and all

available alternatives.

- A choice made without controlling influences such as force, fraud, deceit,

duress, over-reaching or other forms of constraint or coercion.

Does this not apply to us?

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I'd be very careful about signing anything, and what you signed was

an agreement to something that is not true. If there's absolutley no

way around signing something, then you can restrict your signature

by adding a short statement next to or above your name. If your

under threat, duress, or coercion, you can write that or " under

TDC " . If you don't agree with what you're signing, you can

write " for identification purposes only " . The real Patriots know all

about this stuff, not these wanna be Patriots that support Bush and

war, but guys that know all about the law how things really work,

which is very confusing. http://www.famguardian.org/ is probably the

only site one needs to get an idea about these things. What I

mentioned about the signature I had just learned from Don Harkins at

http://www.idaho-observer.com

Dan

> In New York you only have to say that vaccinating goes against

your religious beliefs. Unless the school denies you and you end up

in court, you don't have to justify or explain your personally held

belief. Unfortunately I did have to sign a waiver and admit that I

am endangereing my child by not vaccinating. I didn't let that

bother me. It's a matter of moral conscience and I will do whats

necessary to protect my children from harmful diseases being

purposefully injected into a perfectly healthy, disease-free child

in anticipation of disease. As for their class-mates, I had to

remind the school nurse that if these children are in fact

immunised, my child couldn't possibly pose a threat to them and

refer to waiver I signed stating that my child is the one at risk. I

just use their own crap against them (politely of course).

> I do like that Verse and plan to mark it in my Bible.

>

[Guest guest]

The following is an exemption that I wrote a few years ago for my 2

nephews. As far as I know the parents never signed anything and they

have never been hassled again. It's unfortunate that they're even in

this school, but that's their father's doing. The letter is a little

radical, and I definitely wrote more than necessary, but oh well. If

anyone is offended at Jesus then you better not read.

To Whom It May

Concern:

We, ____________, the parents of ___________, who are both students

at ____________ School, are exercising our rights according to the

exemptions written in the Ohio Revised Code 3313.67. For both

philosophical and religious reasons, formaldehyde, thimerosal,

aluminum phosphate, antibiotics, phenols, aluminum salts, methanol,

isopropyl, 2 pheoxyethanol, animal blood/serum, animal DNA, chicken

embryo, aborted fetal tissue, simian immunoVirus, mycoplasma,

endotoxins, and any other undisclosed pathogens, contaminants,

additives, or ingredients that are concocted into what are commonly

known as vaccines will no longer be injected into the sacred blood

of our children. ___________ will be exempt from both current and

future requirements by the government's school as long as state

law

permits.

According to Bible-believing followers of the Lord Jesus Christ,

sacred human blood is essential for a healthy physical life on earth

as well as maintaining a proper, obedient relationship with the

Saviour, especially since the human body is the dwelling place for

the Holy Spirit in those who are saved. Toxic, unscientific,

disgusting, health-damaging, man-made vaccines interfere with God

the Father's creation, thus provoking Him to anger. The Word of

God

contains 378 references to blood, with the most important being the

final shedding of blood by the Lord Jesus Christ as a one-time

payment for the sins of man. Furthermore, Christians are commanded

by the Bible God to trust in Him in all things, not man, not the

government, and certainly not a hundred billion dollar medical

establishment. Besides, the mere fact that aborted fetal tissue is

used in vaccines is enough by itself to refuse injections according

to the Christian faith. Just a few Bible verses are listed below.

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I

have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your

souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Psalms 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;

my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn

of my salvation, and my high tower.

Psalms 40:4 Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and

respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.

Psalms 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put

confidence in man.

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of

the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not

your own?

As for the philosophical reasoning, it's simply a matter of

common

sense. A hundred billion dollar industry claims that vaccines are

safe and effective, while concerned human beings that simply have no

monetary agenda report that vaccines are deadly and dangerous. All

information and so-called studies that exalt vaccinations are funded

and influenced by the profiteers themselves! The evidence against

this deadly deception is enormous and obvious, and we highly suggest

that the reader investigate it.

It is also worth mentioning that _________ began showing signs of a

learning disability right after an injection. There are thousands of

dead and disabled babies, plus children and adults that have fallen

victim to the vaccination agenda.

Finally, we do not appreciate the disrespect and the insult that was

conducted against us by concealing the truth regarding the

state's

requirements for vaccinations. Just like all the other deceived

parents at the government schools, we were intentionally lied to and

led to believe that our children must be injected by toxic

chemicals, animal junk, and aborted fetus tissue in order to remain

in school. However, we shall not return evil for evil, because

vengeance is for the Lord.

Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD

revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his

adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.

2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that

know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Sincerely,

___________

[Guest guest]

Use of scripture can get you in DEEP Trouble.

ONLY use the wording of the law to write your exemption

At 05:59 AM 8/26/2005 -0000, you wrote:

>The following is an exemption that I wrote a few years ago for my 2

>nephews. As far as I know the parents never signed anything and they

>have never been hassled again. It's unfortunate that they're even in

>this school, but that's their father's doing. The letter is a little

>radical, and I definitely wrote more than necessary, but oh well. If

>anyone is offended at Jesus then you better not read.

>

>

>

>

>To Whom It May

>Concern:

>

>

>We, ____________, the parents of ___________, who are both students

>at ____________ School, are exercising our rights according to the

>exemptions written in the Ohio Revised Code 3313.67. For both

>philosophical and religious reasons, formaldehyde, thimerosal,

>aluminum phosphate, antibiotics, phenols, aluminum salts, methanol,

>isopropyl, 2 pheoxyethanol, animal blood/serum, animal DNA, chicken

>embryo, aborted fetal tissue, simian immunoVirus, mycoplasma,

>endotoxins, and any other undisclosed pathogens, contaminants,

>additives, or ingredients that are concocted into what are commonly

>known as vaccines will no longer be injected into the sacred blood

>of our children. ___________ will be exempt from both current and

>future requirements by the government's school as long as state

>law

>permits.

>

>According to Bible-believing followers of the Lord Jesus Christ,

>sacred human blood is essential for a healthy physical life on earth

>as well as maintaining a proper, obedient relationship with the

>Saviour, especially since the human body is the dwelling place for

>the Holy Spirit in those who are saved. Toxic, unscientific,

>disgusting, health-damaging, man-made vaccines interfere with God

>the Father's creation, thus provoking Him to anger. The Word of

>God

>contains 378 references to blood, with the most important being the

>final shedding of blood by the Lord Jesus Christ as a one-time

>payment for the sins of man. Furthermore, Christians are commanded

>by the Bible God to trust in Him in all things, not man, not the

>government, and certainly not a hundred billion dollar medical

>establishment. Besides, the mere fact that aborted fetal tissue is

>used in vaccines is enough by itself to refuse injections according

>to the Christian faith. Just a few Bible verses are listed below.

>

>Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I

>have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your

>souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

>

>Psalms 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;

>my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn

>of my salvation, and my high tower.

>

>Psalms 40:4 Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and

>respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.

>

>Psalms 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put

>confidence in man.

>

>1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of

>the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not

>your own?

>

>As for the philosophical reasoning, it's simply a matter of

>common

>sense. A hundred billion dollar industry claims that vaccines are

>safe and effective, while concerned human beings that simply have no

>monetary agenda report that vaccines are deadly and dangerous. All

>information and so-called studies that exalt vaccinations are funded

>and influenced by the profiteers themselves! The evidence against

>this deadly deception is enormous and obvious, and we highly suggest

>that the reader investigate it.

>

>It is also worth mentioning that _________ began showing signs of a

>learning disability right after an injection. There are thousands of

>dead and disabled babies, plus children and adults that have fallen

>victim to the vaccination agenda.

>

>Finally, we do not appreciate the disrespect and the insult that was

>conducted against us by concealing the truth regarding the

>state's

>requirements for vaccinations. Just like all the other deceived

>parents at the government schools, we were intentionally lied to and

>led to believe that our children must be injected by toxic

>chemicals, animal junk, and aborted fetus tissue in order to remain

>in school. However, we shall not return evil for evil, because

>vengeance is for the Lord.

>

>Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD

>revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his

>adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.

>

>2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that

>know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

>

>

>Sincerely,

>

>___________

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why?

On 8/26/05, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

>

> Use of scripture can get you in DEEP Trouble.

> ONLY use the wording of the law to write your exemption

>

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire-

Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

While we are on the subject, I have a question. I live in Michigan, luckily, we

have the option of a religious or philosophical exemption. When I called our

local " vaccine " group, the woman I spoke with said that they encourage parents

to file a philosophical exemption, kind of like a " use it or lose it " thing.

She sent me a form to use, it is one that they made up, it has the law on the

back and is better than the one from the health department because it doesn't

have any of the the " I know that I am risking my child's health " crap. Anyway,

I did the philosophical for my son who is just starting kindergarten (sniff,

sniff) and want to know if others have chosen this route and why. I am worried

about it, because I am afraid that if too many people use it, then they may take

it away. I am also worried that if they decide to do away with one of our

exemptions, that it will be the first to go.

What are other thoughts and feelings?

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

[Guest guest]

The law is the law. You use the wording of the law and you can't go wrong.

If you try to explain yourself, you can paint yourself into a hole. It has

been done.

Especially in states that are more problematic - especially NY

Never do more than is asked.....................only give what is necessary

and follow 'their' law....................use 'their' rules.

At 06:33 PM 8/26/2005 +0800, you wrote:

>Why?

>

> On 8/26/05, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

>>

>> Use of scripture can get you in DEEP Trouble.

>> ONLY use the wording of the law to write your exemption

>>

>

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[Guest guest]

I would suggest going to the PAVE web site the have a lot of info there on

how the Bible speaks against vaccines.

S. Heath

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Giving more information is not only superflous, but unnecessary. It can be

potentially used against you in a court of law. Stating ones current beliefs and

proving them through your current and past lifestyles can be two entirely

different things. Every decision you have ever made regarding health and

religion will be put under a microscope to be disected and judged by the powers

of your state.

A famous decision was made in NY by Judge Wexler when two families were brought

to court by the school district. To read these families histories and reasons

for not vaxing, you would think they would both recieve exemptions; only one did

and one didn't based on a review of their medical and religious beliefs and

choices made throughout their lives.

Remember, your goal is to exercise your rights, not to justify your choices.

People in power often view too much information as either a weakness or an

attempt at conversion. If someone is curious about your religious exemption and

questions you about it; never bring your medical thoughts to the conversation as

that negates your original and legal reason for not vaccinating and could be

used against you in a court of law.

Anita

maria ella galang-ampongan <ryankachupi@...> wrote:

Why?

On 8/26/05, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

>

> Use of scripture can get you in DEEP Trouble.

> ONLY use the wording of the law to write your exemption

>

--

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire-

Yeats

http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

[Guest guest]

excellent, Anita

At 10:17 AM 8/26/2005 -0700, you wrote:

>Giving more information is not only superflous, but unnecessary. It can be

potentially used against you in a court of law. Stating ones current

beliefs and proving them through your current and past lifestyles can be

two entirely different things. Every decision you have ever made regarding

health and religion will be put under a microscope to be disected and

judged by the powers of your state.

>

>A famous decision was made in NY by Judge Wexler when two families were

brought to court by the school district. To read these families histories

and reasons for not vaxing, you would think they would both recieve

exemptions; only one did and one didn't based on a review of their medical

and religious beliefs and choices made throughout their lives.

>

>Remember, your goal is to exercise your rights, not to justify your

choices. People in power often view too much information as either a

weakness or an attempt at conversion. If someone is curious about your

religious exemption and questions you about it; never bring your medical

thoughts to the conversation as that negates your original and legal reason

for not vaccinating and could be used against you in a court of law.

>

>Anita

>

>maria ella galang-ampongan <ryankachupi@...> wrote:

>Why?

>

>On 8/26/05, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

>>

>> Use of scripture can get you in DEEP Trouble.

>> ONLY use the wording of the law to write your exemption

>>

>

>--

>Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire-

> Yeats

>

>http://ryankachupi.blogspot.com/

>http://www.rjellybeanslings.com

>

>

>