Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees kids toothpaste?

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

Living in New York, I'm sure things are more progressive there (and in other

parts of the country) than they are where I have lived. I have lived in Ohio,

Kentucky, and Louisiana. People still look at me like I have 2 heads when I say

I go to a chiropractor! LOL

My children were born in 1989 and 1991. I was an obstetric and pediatric nurse

for almost 10 years and STILL never came across anyone who didn't vaccinate!

Those of you in more " progressive " states, count your blessings! I'm stuck

in the Middle Ages here in Kentucky! LOL

I first learned about the dangers of vaccines when I joined a dog-specific breed

list 5 years ago in anticipation of our first dog's arrival. There I learned

for the first time that there was another way besides feeding your dog dry

kibble, getting it vaccinated, and seeing a conventional vet. There were many

there who fed their dogs raw, didn't vaccinate or use topical chemicals on their

dogs, and used homeopathy. WOW! Was that an eye opener for me! Then when our

new pup had a reaction to one of his first vaccines, I started researching

online and realized that vaccines were VERY damaging for animals AND humans!

As one who was a registered nurse, this was total foreign ground to me. But I

kept digging and researching and discovered a whole new way of living!

The 2 people I had met previously who didn't vax their kids (and whom I thought

were totally nuts for not doing so), I finally realized they were on to

something major that I had never even considered.

I'm the lone wolf in my circle though. My family and friends think I'm nuts for

" wasting " my college degree, and for turning my back on conventional medicine as

a whole. I don't use commercial cleaning products, use only homeopathy, don't

douse our lawn in pesticides, feed my dog raw food, don't vax my kids anymore,

and the list goes on. NO ONE I know in my area or in my family feels this way

about any of this. They just think I've gone off the deep end! LOL

So for me, this list is a life saver!

Kay

Re: Re: anyone use Burts Bees kids toothpaste?

Hi Kay,

I had my first child in 1993 and first learned about vaccine dangers and how

to avoid them from my Bradly birth instructor. Soon after that, in 1994, I

began using chiropractic and became part of a group made up of practice-members

called 'Moms Making A Difference' that essentially was a support group for moms

who did not vaccinate their children and who subscribed to the organic way of

life. That group was made up of a dozen or so women and their spouses. I think

certain parts of this huge country ( mostly perimeter states) are more

progressive than others and thats where your liable to find people who are

knowledgeable in the areas of health we so often discuss.I love this group, but

it is not as esoteric as would suggest. Not for me anyway. For over 10 years I

have met countless amounts of people who think and live outside the 'herd' of

the mainstream.

Anita,

L.I.,N.Y.

[Guest guest]

Kay, Anita and the rest of you,

I agree with Kay. If I didn't have this forum to " talk " to somtimes I would be

totally alone in this quest.

I'm in North Carolina which is VERY conservative but we have pockets of

progressive areas around Chapel Hill, Durham, Raleigh and Charlotte (due to

transplants from more progressive areas).

Just Saturday night we were at a baseball game with people from my husband's

office. One couple had an 8 month old boy and started asking me pointed

questions about vaccines. The wife's first comment was: " Everything I've read

points out that the shots are not responsible for autism. " Apparently one of

the other guys in the office just found out that his 2 year old is autistic and

it has scared this other couple. Plus this little baby has had some " seizure

like incidents " which have alarmed them. (I didn't have the heart to tell them

that my autistic nephew had those as well - why scare them more?)

I started by telling them that it depends on who you ask and who is funding the

research and that it's not just autism that we should all be worried about. I

could tell by their blank stares that they thought I was insane. The wife said,

" but our pediatrician told us that he wouldn't see us any more if we didn't

continue to vaccinate " . So I told her that we switched because our dr. wouldn't

keep us either and that was not the important issue.

I think I did convince them to at least do some web research and to ask for all

the product information sheets from each shot he was due to get so that they

could take them home and study them with plenty of time to reflect.

There are worries on my part that I may even damage my husband's career because

of my very different stands on so many things. I look like the typical yuppy

wife but when I open my mouth it all comes out!

When people find out that we drink raw dairy, use raw honey and try to eat

nothing that has trans fats, high fructose corn syrup or food coloring they

openly tease us and say that we're paranoid and wasting our money. The other

kids even tease our kids and say that their mom is weird and that they're not

normal because of just bringing water to drink instead of juice boxes or pb & j on

whole wheat.

But let's remember that anyone who has made a difference in this world began by

being marginalized. You can't name one famous individual who has made radical

changes (that includes Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi, MLK Jr., - you name it) who was

not ridiculed and thought nuts by many people.

So let's stick together because this will most likely never be an easy path to

take.

Thanks to all of you,

Sheri B.

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Living in New York, I'm sure things are more progressive there (and in other

parts of the country) than they are where I have lived. I have lived in Ohio,

Kentucky, and Louisiana. People still look at me like I have 2 heads when I say

I go to a chiropractor! LOL

My children were born in 1989 and 1991. I was an obstetric and pediatric nurse

for almost 10 years and STILL never came across anyone who didn't vaccinate!

Those of you in more " progressive " states, count your blessings! I'm stuck

in the Middle Ages here in Kentucky! LOL

I first learned about the dangers of vaccines when I joined a dog-specific breed

list 5 years ago in anticipation of our first dog's arrival. There I learned

for the first time that there was another way besides feeding your dog dry

kibble, getting it vaccinated, and seeing a conventional vet. There were many

there who fed their dogs raw, didn't vaccinate or use topical chemicals on their

dogs, and used homeopathy. WOW! Was that an eye opener for me! Then when our

new pup had a reaction to one of his first vaccines, I started researching

online and realized that vaccines were VERY damaging for animals AND humans!

As one who was a registered nurse, this was total foreign ground to me. But I

kept digging and researching and discovered a whole new way of living!

The 2 people I had met previously who didn't vax their kids (and whom I thought

were totally nuts for not doing so), I finally realized they were on to

something major that I had never even considered.

I'm the lone wolf in my circle though. My family and friends think I'm nuts for

" wasting " my college degree, and for turning my back on conventional medicine as

a whole. I don't use commercial cleaning products, use only homeopathy, don't

douse our lawn in pesticides, feed my dog raw food, don't vax my kids anymore,

and the list goes on. NO ONE I know in my area or in my family feels this way

about any of this. They just think I've gone off the deep end! LOL

So for me, this list is a life saver!

Kay

Re: Re: anyone use Burts Bees kids toothpaste?

Hi Kay,

I had my first child in 1993 and first learned about vaccine dangers and how

to avoid them from my Bradly birth instructor. Soon after that, in 1994, I

began using chiropractic and became part of a group made up of practice-members

called 'Moms Making A Difference' that essentially was a support group for moms

who did not vaccinate their children and who subscribed to the organic way of

life. That group was made up of a dozen or so women and their spouses. I think

certain parts of this huge country ( mostly perimeter states) are more

progressive than others and thats where your liable to find people who are

knowledgeable in the areas of health we so often discuss.I love this group, but

it is not as esoteric as would suggest. Not for me anyway. For over 10 years I

have met countless amounts of people who think and live outside the 'herd' of

the mainstream.

Anita,

L.I.,N.Y.

[Guest guest]

To All,

To me, this group not only acts as a fountain of information, but provides

constant and much needed support for (radicals) like me who choose not to

vaccinate.(yes even by New Yorks progressive standards). It's a sort of think

tank if you will. I am alone on the issue in the support group my autistic sons

school provides. Many of the moms are choosing to wait (which is a start) or are

all consumed with the mercury/auitism link. Parenting an autistic child comes

with untold stress, fear and endless challenges and I lean on the group for

support in those areas and to exchange info and strategies. Every now and then

the topic of vaccinations comes up and I diligently get on my soap box to spread

the word though I'm sure the Moderators (social workers, psychologist etc) don't

appreciate it. If I even get them to think about it, I feel I have somehow

liberated them from their socially trained way of thinking. As I said, I love

this group and all the knowledge, comfort and support I have

gained from it and my fellow members. I declare this day to be Vaccinations

Group appreciation day. BIG THANKS to our leader Sheri Nakken. Gee, I hope I'm

not being too corny.

Anita

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

Kay, Anita and the rest of you,

I agree with Kay. If I didn't have this forum to " talk " to somtimes I would be

totally alone in this quest.

I'm in North Carolina which is VERY conservative but we have pockets of

progressive areas around Chapel Hill, Durham, Raleigh and Charlotte (due to

transplants from more progressive areas).

Just Saturday night we were at a baseball game with people from my husband's

office. One couple had an 8 month old boy and started asking me pointed

questions about vaccines. The wife's first comment was: " Everything I've read

points out that the shots are not responsible for autism. " Apparently one of

the other guys in the office just found out that his 2 year old is autistic and

it has scared this other couple. Plus this little baby has had some " seizure

like incidents " which have alarmed them. (I didn't have the heart to tell them

that my autistic nephew had those as well - why scare them more?)

I started by telling them that it depends on who you ask and who is funding the

research and that it's not just autism that we should all be worried about. I

could tell by their blank stares that they thought I was insane. The wife said,

" but our pediatrician told us that he wouldn't see us any more if we didn't

continue to vaccinate " . So I told her that we switched because our dr. wouldn't

keep us either and that was not the important issue.

I think I did convince them to at least do some web research and to ask for all

the product information sheets from each shot he was due to get so that they

could take them home and study them with plenty of time to reflect.

There are worries on my part that I may even damage my husband's career because

of my very different stands on so many things. I look like the typical yuppy

wife but when I open my mouth it all comes out!

When people find out that we drink raw dairy, use raw honey and try to eat

nothing that has trans fats, high fructose corn syrup or food coloring they

openly tease us and say that we're paranoid and wasting our money. The other

kids even tease our kids and say that their mom is weird and that they're not

normal because of just bringing water to drink instead of juice boxes or pb & j on

whole wheat.

But let's remember that anyone who has made a difference in this world began by

being marginalized. You can't name one famous individual who has made radical

changes (that includes Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi, MLK Jr., - you name it) who was

not ridiculed and thought nuts by many people.

So let's stick together because this will most likely never be an easy path to

take.

Thanks to all of you,

Sheri B.

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Living in New York, I'm sure things are more progressive there (and in other

parts of the country) than they are where I have lived. I have lived in Ohio,

Kentucky, and Louisiana. People still look at me like I have 2 heads when I say

I go to a chiropractor! LOL

My children were born in 1989 and 1991. I was an obstetric and pediatric nurse

for almost 10 years and STILL never came across anyone who didn't vaccinate!

Those of you in more " progressive " states, count your blessings! I'm stuck

in the Middle Ages here in Kentucky! LOL

I first learned about the dangers of vaccines when I joined a dog-specific breed

list 5 years ago in anticipation of our first dog's arrival. There I learned

for the first time that there was another way besides feeding your dog dry

kibble, getting it vaccinated, and seeing a conventional vet. There were many

there who fed their dogs raw, didn't vaccinate or use topical chemicals on their

dogs, and used homeopathy. WOW! Was that an eye opener for me! Then when our

new pup had a reaction to one of his first vaccines, I started researching

online and realized that vaccines were VERY damaging for animals AND humans!

As one who was a registered nurse, this was total foreign ground to me. But I

kept digging and researching and discovered a whole new way of living!

The 2 people I had met previously who didn't vax their kids (and whom I thought

were totally nuts for not doing so), I finally realized they were on to

something major that I had never even considered.

I'm the lone wolf in my circle though. My family and friends think I'm nuts for

" wasting " my college degree, and for turning my back on conventional medicine as

a whole. I don't use commercial cleaning products, use only homeopathy, don't

douse our lawn in pesticides, feed my dog raw food, don't vax my kids anymore,

and the list goes on. NO ONE I know in my area or in my family feels this way

about any of this. They just think I've gone off the deep end! LOL

So for me, this list is a life saver!

Kay

Re: Re: anyone use Burts Bees kids toothpaste?

Hi Kay,

I had my first child in 1993 and first learned about vaccine dangers and how

to avoid them from my Bradly birth instructor. Soon after that, in 1994, I

began using chiropractic and became part of a group made up of practice-members

called 'Moms Making A Difference' that essentially was a support group for moms

who did not vaccinate their children and who subscribed to the organic way of

life. That group was made up of a dozen or so women and their spouses. I think

certain parts of this huge country ( mostly perimeter states) are more

progressive than others and thats where your liable to find people who are

knowledgeable in the areas of health we so often discuss.I love this group, but

it is not as esoteric as would suggest. Not for me anyway. For over 10 years I

have met countless amounts of people who think and live outside the 'herd' of

the mainstream.

Anita,

L.I.,N.Y.

[Guest guest]

Kay,

Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might have

some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors office. Does

he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every chiropractor I have ever

known has been anti-vax and a huge source of support for me. How about the

people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm sure it's hard, but you never

know what people in those circles are thinking about such subjects.Just a

suggestion.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Living in New York, I'm sure things are more progressive there (and in other

parts of the country) than they are where I have lived. I have lived in Ohio,

Kentucky, and Louisiana. People still look at me like I have 2 heads when I say

I go to a chiropractor! LOL

My children were born in 1989 and 1991. I was an obstetric and pediatric nurse

for almost 10 years and STILL never came across anyone who didn't vaccinate!

Those of you in more " progressive " states, count your blessings! I'm stuck

in the Middle Ages here in Kentucky! LOL

I first learned about the dangers of vaccines when I joined a dog-specific breed

list 5 years ago in anticipation of our first dog's arrival. There I learned

for the first time that there was another way besides feeding your dog dry

kibble, getting it vaccinated, and seeing a conventional vet. There were many

there who fed their dogs raw, didn't vaccinate or use topical chemicals on their

dogs, and used homeopathy. WOW! Was that an eye opener for me! Then when our

new pup had a reaction to one of his first vaccines, I started researching

online and realized that vaccines were VERY damaging for animals AND humans!

As one who was a registered nurse, this was total foreign ground to me. But I

kept digging and researching and discovered a whole new way of living!

The 2 people I had met previously who didn't vax their kids (and whom I thought

were totally nuts for not doing so), I finally realized they were on to

something major that I had never even considered.

I'm the lone wolf in my circle though. My family and friends think I'm nuts for

" wasting " my college degree, and for turning my back on conventional medicine as

a whole. I don't use commercial cleaning products, use only homeopathy, don't

douse our lawn in pesticides, feed my dog raw food, don't vax my kids anymore,

and the list goes on. NO ONE I know in my area or in my family feels this way

about any of this. They just think I've gone off the deep end! LOL

So for me, this list is a life saver!

Kay

Re: Re: anyone use Burts Bees kids toothpaste?

Hi Kay,

I had my first child in 1993 and first learned about vaccine dangers and how

to avoid them from my Bradly birth instructor. Soon after that, in 1994, I

began using chiropractic and became part of a group made up of practice-members

called 'Moms Making A Difference' that essentially was a support group for moms

who did not vaccinate their children and who subscribed to the organic way of

life. That group was made up of a dozen or so women and their spouses. I think

certain parts of this huge country ( mostly perimeter states) are more

progressive than others and thats where your liable to find people who are

knowledgeable in the areas of health we so often discuss.I love this group, but

it is not as esoteric as would suggest. Not for me anyway. For over 10 years I

have met countless amounts of people who think and live outside the 'herd' of

the mainstream.

Anita,

L.I.,N.Y.

[Guest guest]

Very well put Sheri B. I really enjoyed that! Mona

Re: Re: anyone use Burts Bees kids toothpaste?

Hi Kay,

I had my first child in 1993 and first learned about vaccine dangers and how

to avoid them from my Bradly birth instructor. Soon after that, in 1994, I

began using chiropractic and became part of a group made up of practice-members

called 'Moms Making A Difference' that essentially was a support group for moms

who did not vaccinate their children and who subscribed to the organic way of

life. That group was made up of a dozen or so women and their spouses. I think

certain parts of this huge country ( mostly perimeter states) are more

progressive than others and thats where your liable to find people who are

knowledgeable in the areas of health we so often discuss.I love this group, but

it is not as esoteric as would suggest. Not for me anyway. For over 10 years I

have met countless amounts of people who think and live outside the 'herd' of

the mainstream.

Anita,

L.I.,N.Y.

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten vaccines.

Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic medicine! And it

seems the ones I have found in the past are the same way. I tell you, Kentucky

is messed up!

The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last summer). I've never

seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check their bulletin board, too!) And when

I asked them about a homeopath in the area, they looked at me like I was

speaking Chinese! <sigh>

Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to, THEY

vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are afraid of getting

in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I don't know.

Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might have

some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors office. Does

he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every chiropractor I have ever

known has been anti-vax and a huge source of support for me. How about the

people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm sure it's hard, but you never

know what people in those circles are thinking about such subjects.Just a

suggestion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

I guess I didn't realize how very dificult it is for so many of you. Believe me,

I am up against a world of opposition too, especially where my family is

concerned. When autism became evident in my son all they could say was that he

was proof that vaccinations had nothing to do with autism. To this day, I have

not found a single person with an autistic unvaxed child. Henry's unvaxed autism

has provoked similiar comments from his pediatrician which only gives them more

vax-selling power when they use my son as an example. It's terribly

frustrating.I found 2 drs. through DAN (defeat autism now) that were open minded

enough to say that Henry would have been in the deeper darker woods of autism if

I DID vaccinate him. They no longer accept my insurance. I pretty much steer

clear of doctor visits for all 3 of them except for annual physicals. My current

chiropractor regrets vaxing his children and is always ready to talk about the

evils of doing it. I count my blessings for having him and

others to support me. I am luckier than I thought. There are many of us out

there, and in time, I know God will point them out to you.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten vaccines.

Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic medicine! And it

seems the ones I have found in the past are the same way. I tell you, Kentucky

is messed up!

The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last summer). I've never

seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check their bulletin board, too!) And when

I asked them about a homeopath in the area, they looked at me like I was

speaking Chinese! <sigh>

Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to, THEY

vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are afraid of getting

in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I don't know.

Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might have

some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors office. Does

he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every chiropractor I have ever

known has been anti-vax and a huge source of support for me. How about the

people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm sure it's hard, but you never

know what people in those circles are thinking about such subjects.Just a

suggestion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Anita,

Have you and your DAN doctors ever discussed the effects of toxins not just from

the shots but those that he got in utero or early in life?

My sister is convinced that her amalgams, along with her shots and other

exposure to toxic substances contributed to her son's autism. The vaccinations

were just " the icing on the cake " .

Have you guys ever done a screening for heavy metals in his body? Before my

sister started his chelation they did a full panel to see what metals were in

his body and it was scary. Huge levels of Uranium, Cadmium, Arsenic.... it went

on and on. So obviously this wasn't just from the shots. The shots were like

the bucket filling up to overflowing and they finally caused it to spill over.

Sheri B.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

I guess I didn't realize how very dificult it is for so many of you. Believe me,

I am up against a world of opposition too, especially where my family is

concerned. When autism became evident in my son all they could say was that he

was proof that vaccinations had nothing to do with autism. To this day, I have

not found a single person with an autistic unvaxed child. Henry's unvaxed autism

has provoked similiar comments from his pediatrician which only gives them more

vax-selling power when they use my son as an example. It's terribly

frustrating.I found 2 drs. through DAN (defeat autism now) that were open minded

enough to say that Henry would have been in the deeper darker woods of autism if

I DID vaccinate him. They no longer accept my insurance. I pretty much steer

clear of doctor visits for all 3 of them except for annual physicals. My current

chiropractor regrets vaxing his children and is always ready to talk about the

evils of doing it. I count my blessings for having him and

others to support me. I am luckier than I thought. There are many of us out

there, and in time, I know God will point them out to you.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten vaccines.

Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic medicine! And it

seems the ones I have found in the past are the same way. I tell you, Kentucky

is messed up!

The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last summer). I've never

seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check their bulletin board, too!) And when

I asked them about a homeopath in the area, they looked at me like I was

speaking Chinese! <sigh>

Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to, THEY

vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are afraid of getting

in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I don't know.

Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might have

some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors office. Does

he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every chiropractor I have ever

known has been anti-vax and a huge source of support for me. How about the

people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm sure it's hard, but you never

know what people in those circles are thinking about such subjects.Just a

suggestion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Sheri B.- this is a great thing to bring up. I think some people

don't realize that those shiny silver filings (mercury) are so toxic

and do get absorbed into the mothers bloodstream and straight to the

baby.

I have 8 of them! I am sure this didn't help my son and only wish I

had known about the dangers of them before I got pregnant. This

month I am starting the process of having them removed. One more

note...if you have amalgams DO NOT let just anyone take them out.

Please go to a qualified holistic minded dentist that has all the

proper equipment. There is a very specific protocol to follow when

removing them so that you dont receive even more toxic poisoning

during the process.

Sherry B...the other one..lol

> Hi Anita,

>

> Thank you for your suggestions.

>

> Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten

vaccines.

>

> Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic

medicine! And it seems the ones I have found in the past are the

same way. I tell you, Kentucky is messed up!

>

> The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last

summer). I've never seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check

their bulletin board, too!) And when I asked them about a homeopath

in the area, they looked at me like I was speaking Chinese! <sigh>

>

> Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to,

THEY vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

>

> I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are

afraid of getting in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I

don't know.

>

> Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

>

> Kay

> Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone

use Burts Bees kids toothpaste?

>

>

> Kay,

> Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you

might have some luck finding people who are likeminded at your

chiropractors office. Does he/she support you in your views on

vaccinations? Every chiropractor I have ever known has been anti-

vax and a huge source of support for me. How about the people who

frequent your healthfood store? I'm sure it's hard, but you never

know what people in those circles are thinking about such

subjects.Just a suggestion.

> Anita

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

The DAN doctors took Henry's blood and ran over 100 tests incliding all the

metals. Oddly enough, he was within the normal range for everything with the

exception of amonia (which wasn't even too far from normal). It can't be proven

thus far, but we all suspect it was the IV antibiotics (strictly precautionary

mind you) given to him on his third day of life. He then received my IV

antibiotics through breast milk soon after for a period of approx.six weeks. I

had the lactation consultants blessing on that stupid move. I had a very

dangerous case of phlebitis with cellulitis after the c-section. I was sick and

scared and wanted nothing more than to breastfeed him. Add the trauma of

seperation and we have some serious assaults to a newborn baby.Dr.Carley

prescribed a homeopathic antibiotic detox which really helped. I just finished a

vaccination detox to get rid of any inhereited vax garbage/viruses he may have

gotten from me .Again, he is better for doing it. He no longer snores and

breaths steadier when sleeping. His adenoids were probably enlarged with

viruses (and I use the term loosly) and consequently narrowed his breathing

path. She has more treatments in mind, but I have decided to take a break and

see how does on his own for a while. I do give him transfer factor everyday with

B's and C to provide much needed constant support of his immune system. I am

going to replace the B vit. with whey and add cod liver oil. These are my own

choices based on what I have read in various sources. What you describe is the

case for so many autistic children especially those who have regressed and is

excellent advice. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Henry's unique case of

autism. I almost wish it did so I could chelate him and make him better. I am

confident that he will improve significantly over time with love, a clean diet

and an appropriate education program in addition to any treatments I decide

would suit him. Thank you for sharing. Perhaps a classical homeopath

should be next on my list.

Anita

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

Anita,

Have you and your DAN doctors ever discussed the effects of toxins not just from

the shots but those that he got in utero or early in life?

My sister is convinced that her amalgams, along with her shots and other

exposure to toxic substances contributed to her son's autism. The vaccinations

were just " the icing on the cake " .

Have you guys ever done a screening for heavy metals in his body? Before my

sister started his chelation they did a full panel to see what metals were in

his body and it was scary. Huge levels of Uranium, Cadmium, Arsenic.... it went

on and on. So obviously this wasn't just from the shots. The shots were like

the bucket filling up to overflowing and they finally caused it to spill over.

Sheri B.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

I guess I didn't realize how very dificult it is for so many of you. Believe me,

I am up against a world of opposition too, especially where my family is

concerned. When autism became evident in my son all they could say was that he

was proof that vaccinations had nothing to do with autism. To this day, I have

not found a single person with an autistic unvaxed child. Henry's unvaxed autism

has provoked similiar comments from his pediatrician which only gives them more

vax-selling power when they use my son as an example. It's terribly

frustrating.I found 2 drs. through DAN (defeat autism now) that were open minded

enough to say that Henry would have been in the deeper darker woods of autism if

I DID vaccinate him. They no longer accept my insurance. I pretty much steer

clear of doctor visits for all 3 of them except for annual physicals. My current

chiropractor regrets vaxing his children and is always ready to talk about the

evils of doing it. I count my blessings for having him and

others to support me. I am luckier than I thought. There are many of us out

there, and in time, I know God will point them out to you.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten vaccines.

Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic medicine! And it

seems the ones I have found in the past are the same way. I tell you, Kentucky

is messed up!

The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last summer). I've never

seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check their bulletin board, too!) And when

I asked them about a homeopath in the area, they looked at me like I was

speaking Chinese! <sigh>

Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to, THEY

vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are afraid of getting

in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I don't know.

Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might have

some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors office. Does

he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every chiropractor I have ever

known has been anti-vax and a huge source of support for me. How about the

people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm sure it's hard, but you never

know what people in those circles are thinking about such subjects.Just a

suggestion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

You took the words right out of my mouth, Anita! I would HIGHLY recommend

this. I believe New York has several on the list. Just be sure and ask them

the questions Sheri has on her website. You want to be sure and get one who is

classical and practices from the 6th Organon.

http://www.homeopathy-cures.com/html/referrals_to_homeopaths.html#NewYork-NEw

(check out the ones in bold print)

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm (questions are listed a little more than

halfway down the page)

All the best!

Kay

*******************************************

Perhaps a classical homeopath should be next on my list.

Anita

[Guest guest]

WOW regarding your comment below. I am sorry about your circumstances, but

because of your unique circumstances and becasue you are trying to find an

unvaxed child with autism, you are conducting your own research on this

topic!!!! Thanks for doing that and for sharing the info.

-- To this day, I have not found a single person with an autistic unvaxed

child.---

> I guess I didn't realize how very dificult it is for so many of you.

Believe me, I am up against a world of opposition too, especially where my

family is concerned. When autism became evident in my son all they could say

was that he was proof that vaccinations had nothing to do with autism. To

this day, I have not found a single person with an autistic unvaxed child.

Henry's unvaxed autism has provoked similiar comments from his pediatrician

which only gives them more vax-selling power when they use my son as an

example. It's terribly frustrating.I found 2 drs. through DAN (defeat autism

now) that were open minded enough to say that Henry would have been in the

deeper darker woods of autism if I DID vaccinate him. They no longer accept

my insurance. I pretty much steer clear of doctor visits for all 3 of them

except for annual physicals. My current chiropractor regrets vaxing his

children and is always ready to talk about the evils of doing it. I count my

blessings for having him and

> others to support me. I am luckier than I thought. There are many of us

out there, and in time, I know God will point them out to you.

> Anita

>

> KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

> Hi Anita,

>

> Thank you for your suggestions.

>

> Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten vaccines.

>

> Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic medicine!

And it seems the ones I have found in the past are the same way. I tell

you, Kentucky is messed up!

>

> The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last summer). I've

never seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check their bulletin board, too!)

And when I asked them about a homeopath in the area, they looked at me like

I was speaking Chinese! <sigh>

>

> Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to, THEY

vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

>

> I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are afraid of

getting in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I don't know.

>

> Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

>

> Kay

> Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts

Bees kids toothpaste?

>

>

> Kay,

> Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might

have some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors

office. Does he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every

chiropractor I have ever known has been anti-vax and a huge source of

support for me. How about the people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm

sure it's hard, but you never know what people in those circles are thinking

about such subjects.Just a suggestion.

> Anita

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

I never thought of it that way.It's a double edge sword because on one hand you

have the medical mainstream people who will use this as an example to prove

vaccinations don't cause autism.On the other hand you have those with a broeder

scope of thinking who will see that vax garbage can be inherited and set the

stage for autism so that when an environmental assault takes place; autism

results. I suspect Henry's autism or his suseptability to it occurred in utero

as a result of active rubella from my vax.The pregnancy was not problematic but

I did'nt feel the glow or energy I had the 2x before.

Thanks,

Anita

Sandy Rippetoe <srippetoe@...> wrote:

WOW regarding your comment below. I am sorry about your circumstances, but

because of your unique circumstances and becasue you are trying to find an

unvaxed child with autism, you are conducting your own research on this

topic!!!! Thanks for doing that and for sharing the info.

-- To this day, I have not found a single person with an autistic unvaxed

child.---

> I guess I didn't realize how very dificult it is for so many of you.

Believe me, I am up against a world of opposition too, especially where my

family is concerned. When autism became evident in my son all they could say

was that he was proof that vaccinations had nothing to do with autism. To

this day, I have not found a single person with an autistic unvaxed child.

Henry's unvaxed autism has provoked similiar comments from his pediatrician

which only gives them more vax-selling power when they use my son as an

example. It's terribly frustrating.I found 2 drs. through DAN (defeat autism

now) that were open minded enough to say that Henry would have been in the

deeper darker woods of autism if I DID vaccinate him. They no longer accept

my insurance. I pretty much steer clear of doctor visits for all 3 of them

except for annual physicals. My current chiropractor regrets vaxing his

children and is always ready to talk about the evils of doing it. I count my

blessings for having him and

> others to support me. I am luckier than I thought. There are many of us

out there, and in time, I know God will point them out to you.

> Anita

>

> KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

> Hi Anita,

>

> Thank you for your suggestions.

>

> Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten vaccines.

>

> Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic medicine!

And it seems the ones I have found in the past are the same way. I tell

you, Kentucky is messed up!

>

> The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last summer). I've

never seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check their bulletin board, too!)

And when I asked them about a homeopath in the area, they looked at me like

I was speaking Chinese! <sigh>

>

> Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to, THEY

vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

>

> I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are afraid of

getting in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I don't know.

>

> Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

>

> Kay

> Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts

Bees kids toothpaste?

>

>

> Kay,

> Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might

have some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors

office. Does he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every

chiropractor I have ever known has been anti-vax and a huge source of

support for me. How about the people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm

sure it's hard, but you never know what people in those circles are thinking

about such subjects.Just a suggestion.

> Anita

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anita,

Are you saying you were vaxed for rubella during your pregnancy?

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Sandy,

I never thought of it that way.It's a double edge sword because on one hand

you have the medical mainstream people who will use this as an example to prove

vaccinations don't cause autism.On the other hand you have those with a broeder

scope of thinking who will see that vax garbage can be inherited and set the

stage for autism so that when an environmental assault takes place; autism

results. I suspect Henry's autism or his suseptability to it occurred in utero

as a result of active rubella from my vax.The pregnancy was not problematic but

I did'nt feel the glow or energy I had the 2x before.

Thanks,

Anita

[Guest guest]

No Kay. I am saying that because of the way vaccinations only appeal to one part

(humoral I believe as opposed to the cell-mediated) of the bi-polar immune

system; the rubella vax virus theoretically could still live quietly within my

body and come become active when I am immunocompromised. It's pure speculation

but well supported by research. That theory applies to measles as well and maybe

even more.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Anita,

Are you saying you were vaxed for rubella during your pregnancy?

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Sandy,

I never thought of it that way.It's a double edge sword because on one hand

you have the medical mainstream people who will use this as an example to prove

vaccinations don't cause autism.On the other hand you have those with a broeder

scope of thinking who will see that vax garbage can be inherited and set the

stage for autism so that when an environmental assault takes place; autism

results. I suspect Henry's autism or his suseptability to it occurred in utero

as a result of active rubella from my vax.The pregnancy was not problematic but

I did'nt feel the glow or energy I had the 2x before.

Thanks,

Anita

[Guest guest]

Kay,

I neglected to say " my CHILDHOOD vax " in both my responses. Sorry for the

confusion.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Anita,

Are you saying you were vaxed for rubella during your pregnancy?

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Sandy,

I never thought of it that way.It's a double edge sword because on one hand

you have the medical mainstream people who will use this as an example to prove

vaccinations don't cause autism.On the other hand you have those with a broeder

scope of thinking who will see that vax garbage can be inherited and set the

stage for autism so that when an environmental assault takes place; autism

results. I suspect Henry's autism or his suseptability to it occurred in utero

as a result of active rubella from my vax.The pregnancy was not problematic but

I did'nt feel the glow or energy I had the 2x before.

Thanks,

Anita

[Guest guest]

I see. Well, if you think about it that's how any of us get sick. When our

immune system isn't working properly (which we know the vaccines throw a wrench

in THAT), then the viruses and bacteria that are with us and around us all the

time have the opportunity to take hold. If our immune system was left to work

the way it was intended our bodies would be able to withstand the negative

outside influences.

And yes, the damage done to our bodies from vaccines we received as children and

as adults definitely can affect the health of our children.

I find it fairly amusing that the MDs are using your son as a means of trying to

get vaccines off the hook when it comes to autism. As you say, it is SO rare to

find an unvaxed child with autism, surely they don't expect people to believe

that ONE child is going to prove their faulty theory when there are scores of

others to prove that vaccines ARE indeed involved in autism in children.

They don't want to see the evidence that's right in front of their eyes. Your

son's situation is no more proof that vaccines DON'T contribute to autism any

more than my children who WERE vaccinated and aren't autistic. It's all about

susceptibility in the individual. And as someone said, there are so many

factors including amalgams in the mother's mouth, vaccines parents received and

when, environmental exposure to toxins, etc. The child's own vaccines may just

be the straw that broke the camels back in many situations. It is such a HUGE

assault to those little bodies, it's just unbelievable that anyone can do that

to a baby in the name of " health. "

It's a game of Russian Roulette any time a child is vaccinated. NO ONE knows

how that individual child will respond until it's been done. And then the

damage is often irreversible.

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

No Kay. I am saying that because of the way vaccinations only appeal to one

part (humoral I believe as opposed to the cell-mediated) of the bi-polar immune

system; the rubella vax virus theoretically could still live quietly within my

body and come become active when I am immunocompromised. It's pure speculation

but well supported by research. That theory applies to measles as well and maybe

even more.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Anita,

Are you saying you were vaxed for rubella during your pregnancy?

Kay

[Guest guest]

Kay,

What ever happened to the idea 'The power that made the; heals the body?'

That's a popular belief held by many chiropractors in these parts. I'm sure they

are aALL familiar with it as it is most likely part of their education and

training. Wouldn't it be fun to challenge your allopathic thinking Chiropractors

with their own belief system? I love boxing these kind of people in; it only

makes them think when they are through being defensive.

These guys are walking,talking contradictions to their own profession. I do

realize that an allopathic thinking chiropractor is better than no chiropractor

at all.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Yes, my children were vaxed up through their kindergarten vaccines.

Unfortunately I have a chiropractor that embraces allopathic medicine! And it

seems the ones I have found in the past are the same way. I tell you, Kentucky

is messed up!

The HFS is in another county (we moved to the country last summer). I've never

seen ANY info there on not vaxing (I check their bulletin board, too!) And when

I asked them about a homeopath in the area, they looked at me like I was

speaking Chinese! <sigh>

Even the " homeopathic " vets (3 different ones) I took our dog to, THEY

vaccinate, use antibiotics, etc. Grrr...

I'll keep looking though. Maybe these places around here are afraid of getting

in trouble if they advertise about not vaxing. I don't know.

Thanks again for your input. I'm not giving up yet!

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

Did you vaccinate your children in 89 and 91? I also thought you might have

some luck finding people who are likeminded at your chiropractors office. Does

he/she support you in your views on vaccinations? Every chiropractor I have ever

known has been anti-vax and a huge source of support for me. How about the

people who frequent your healthfood store? I'm sure it's hard, but you never

know what people in those circles are thinking about such subjects.Just a

suggestion.

Anita

[Guest guest]

I find it fairly amusing that the MDs are using your son as a means of trying to

get vaccines off the hook when it comes to autism. As you say, it is SO rare to

find an unvaxed child with autism, surely they don't expect people to believe

that ONE child is going to prove their faulty theory when there are scores of

others to prove that vaccines ARE indeed involved in autism in children.

Kay,

It is amusing but a dangerous scenario none-the-less. The ped's office I take

the children to is a vaccination factory. There are at least a dozen doctors on

staff and they have four practices in our county. It's like the 'Gee Your Hair

Looks Terrific Commercial'. They tell any skeptical parents about my son; they

tell 2 people and so on and so forth. That's a perfect example how

misinformation can spread like wildfire. Unfortunately most people will believe

what is being suggested by their doctor and what is most convenient for them.

Disturbing, isn't it?

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

I see. Well, if you think about it that's how any of us get sick. When our

immune system isn't working properly (which we know the vaccines throw a wrench

in THAT), then the viruses and bacteria that are with us and around us all the

time have the opportunity to take hold. If our immune system was left to work

the way it was intended our bodies would be able to withstand the negative

outside influences.

And yes, the damage done to our bodies from vaccines we received as children and

as adults definitely can affect the health of our children.

I find it fairly amusing that the MDs are using your son as a means of trying to

get vaccines off the hook when it comes to autism. As you say, it is SO rare to

find an unvaxed child with autism, surely they don't expect people to believe

that ONE child is going to prove their faulty theory when there are scores of

others to prove that vaccines ARE indeed involved in autism in children.

They don't want to see the evidence that's right in front of their eyes. Your

son's situation is no more proof that vaccines DON'T contribute to autism any

more than my children who WERE vaccinated and aren't autistic. It's all about

susceptibility in the individual. And as someone said, there are so many

factors including amalgams in the mother's mouth, vaccines parents received and

when, environmental exposure to toxins, etc. The child's own vaccines may just

be the straw that broke the camels back in many situations. It is such a HUGE

assault to those little bodies, it's just unbelievable that anyone can do that

to a baby in the name of " health. "

It's a game of Russian Roulette any time a child is vaccinated. NO ONE knows

how that individual child will respond until it's been done. And then the

damage is often irreversible.

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

No Kay. I am saying that because of the way vaccinations only appeal to one

part (humoral I believe as opposed to the cell-mediated) of the bi-polar immune

system; the rubella vax virus theoretically could still live quietly within my

body and come become active when I am immunocompromised. It's pure speculation

but well supported by research. That theory applies to measles as well and maybe

even more.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Anita,

Are you saying you were vaxed for rubella during your pregnancy?

Kay

[Guest guest]

I meant " amusing " in a tongue-in-cheek way. I by no means think there is

anything funny about what they are doing to use your son's situation to mislead

other parents. That's absolutely criminal!

My heart goes out to you.

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

I find it fairly amusing that the MDs are using your son as a means of trying

to get vaccines off the hook when it comes to autism. As you say, it is SO rare

to find an unvaxed child with autism, surely they don't expect people to believe

that ONE child is going to prove their faulty theory when there are scores of

others to prove that vaccines ARE indeed involved in autism in children.

Kay,

It is amusing but a dangerous scenario none-the-less. The ped's office I take

the children to is a vaccination factory. There are at least a dozen doctors on

staff and they have four practices in our county. It's like the 'Gee Your Hair

Looks Terrific Commercial'. They tell any skeptical parents about my son; they

tell 2 people and so on and so forth. That's a perfect example how

misinformation can spread like wildfire. Unfortunately most people will believe

what is being suggested by their doctor and what is most convenient for them.

Disturbing, isn't it?

Anita

[Guest guest]

Kay,

I understood what you meant and I agree. No offense taken.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

I meant " amusing " in a tongue-in-cheek way. I by no means think there is

anything funny about what they are doing to use your son's situation to mislead

other parents. That's absolutely criminal!

My heart goes out to you.

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

I find it fairly amusing that the MDs are using your son as a means of trying

to get vaccines off the hook when it comes to autism. As you say, it is SO rare

to find an unvaxed child with autism, surely they don't expect people to believe

that ONE child is going to prove their faulty theory when there are scores of

others to prove that vaccines ARE indeed involved in autism in children.

Kay,

It is amusing but a dangerous scenario none-the-less. The ped's office I take

the children to is a vaccination factory. There are at least a dozen doctors on

staff and they have four practices in our county. It's like the 'Gee Your Hair

Looks Terrific Commercial'. They tell any skeptical parents about my son; they

tell 2 people and so on and so forth. That's a perfect example how

misinformation can spread like wildfire. Unfortunately most people will believe

what is being suggested by their doctor and what is most convenient for them.

Disturbing, isn't it?

Anita

[Guest guest]

Isn't that the truth? I went to one chiropractor a few years ago who asked me

when my last mammogram was???!!! I said I don't do mammograms; and he looked at

me like I had 3 heads! He asked why not, and I said I had done alot of research

on them and decided the risk wasn't worth it. I told him I have read that if a

woman DOES have a tumor, the immense pressure from the mammography machine can

actually rupture the tumor and cause the cancer to spread. He agreed.

I don't get it... They must send all the loonies to Kentucky! LOL

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

What ever happened to the idea 'The power that made the; heals the body?'

That's a popular belief held by many chiropractors in these parts. I'm sure they

are aALL familiar with it as it is most likely part of their education and

training. Wouldn't it be fun to challenge your allopathic thinking Chiropractors

with their own belief system? I love boxing these kind of people in; it only

makes them think when they are through being defensive.

These guys are walking,talking contradictions to their own profession. I do

realize that an allopathic thinking chiropractor is better than no chiropractor

at all.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Ok, good...

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

I understood what you meant and I agree. No offense taken.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

I meant " amusing " in a tongue-in-cheek way. I by no means think there is

anything funny about what they are doing to use your son's situation to mislead

other parents. That's absolutely criminal!

My heart goes out to you.

Kay

[Guest guest]

Kay,

Is it also true that radiating the squashed breast tissue can cause cancer? I'm

sure any kind of radiation has the potential to cause cancer. I'm 42 and have

not had one either. I might coinsider a thermogram when it's covered by my

insurance.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Isn't that the truth? I went to one chiropractor a few years ago who asked me

when my last mammogram was???!!! I said I don't do mammograms; and he looked at

me like I had 3 heads! He asked why not, and I said I had done alot of research

on them and decided the risk wasn't worth it. I told him I have read that if a

woman DOES have a tumor, the immense pressure from the mammography machine can

actually rupture the tumor and cause the cancer to spread. He agreed.

I don't get it... They must send all the loonies to Kentucky! LOL

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

What ever happened to the idea 'The power that made the; heals the body?'

That's a popular belief held by many chiropractors in these parts. I'm sure they

are aALL familiar with it as it is most likely part of their education and

training. Wouldn't it be fun to challenge your allopathic thinking Chiropractors

with their own belief system? I love boxing these kind of people in; it only

makes them think when they are through being defensive.

These guys are walking,talking contradictions to their own profession. I do

realize that an allopathic thinking chiropractor is better than no chiropractor

at all.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Kay,

Is it also true that radiating the squashed breast tissue can cause cancer? I'm

sure any kind of radiation has the potential to cause cancer. I'm 42 and have

not had one either. I might coinsider a thermogram when it's covered by my

insurance.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Isn't that the truth? I went to one chiropractor a few years ago who asked me

when my last mammogram was???!!! I said I don't do mammograms; and he looked at

me like I had 3 heads! He asked why not, and I said I had done alot of research

on them and decided the risk wasn't worth it. I told him I have read that if a

woman DOES have a tumor, the immense pressure from the mammography machine can

actually rupture the tumor and cause the cancer to spread. He agreed.

I don't get it... They must send all the loonies to Kentucky! LOL

Kay

Re: Now:Alternative living WAS: anyone use Burts Bees

kids toothpaste?

Kay,

What ever happened to the idea 'The power that made the; heals the body?'

That's a popular belief held by many chiropractors in these parts. I'm sure they

are aALL familiar with it as it is most likely part of their education and

training. Wouldn't it be fun to challenge your allopathic thinking Chiropractors

with their own belief system? I love boxing these kind of people in; it only

makes them think when they are through being defensive.

These guys are walking,talking contradictions to their own profession. I do

realize that an allopathic thinking chiropractor is better than no chiropractor

at all.

Anita