Re: Jumpers=Colembolla? Attracted to accumulated salts in potted plants?

[Guest guest]

Colembolla eat decaying vegatation and are abundant in soil. The scary question

is why are they attracted to/infecting some people?

Bessie

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> When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after

> extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also

> read about them is that they often enter our environment because they

> love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that

> accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay

> pots?

>

> My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of

> all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual buying

> frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live

> year round. Silly me!

>

> Any ideas re this salt theory?

>

> katiejill

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Bessie,

Do you know, does every creature need protein?

I wonder what the colembolla get from the decaying vegetation specifically, mineral wise, and what they also (or instead) seek/need/want from us? I think all creatures need protein and instinctively seek the highest protein content that they can digest. It isn't about taste for them as it can be for humans who have enough food. What appears to have happened, to my lay mind is that we offer more protein than dead plant matter, and either their bodies could always process our blood or tissue to make it available as nutrients to them, or they evolved to do so.

I wonder if the critters that do not bite us ABSORB protein from us via some old or new external gland previously used to to the same with other substances. I know there are some critters that bite meanly, some that just bite and are felt as such, some that bite without creating the sensation of a bite, and maybe still others use us without biting per se. Of course hookworms just grab hold and absorb, and they are kind of what started this grisly train of thought.

If I had to choose between dead dirt and live meat, I would choose the live meat also. But then humans are carnivores, and colembolla did not originally appear to be. This makes me think that if they were able to survive from dead dirt, there was something nutritious in it to sustain them and enable them to flourish. Protein.

Personally I think that restoring my own body to health should be my number one priority, and it is, of course. However, it can be slow going, which leaves time for research and more research. So, I am using that time to try, like you and some of the others, to figure out how this works so we can stop it from infesting everyone else (and in so doing ultimately overcoming our own defenses and reinfesting us).

I think this is not only NOT a waste of time, I think it is vital.

Thank you for writing, Bessie!

katie

From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas@...>Subject: Re: Jumpers=Colembolla? Attracted to accumulated salts in potted plants?bird mites Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 10:31 AM

Colembolla eat decaying vegatation and are abundant in soil. The scary question is why are they attracted to/infecting some people?Bessie>> > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after> extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also> read about them is that they often enter our environment because they> love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that> accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay> pots?> > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of> all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an

annual buying> frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live> year round. Silly me!> > Any ideas re this salt theory?> > katiejill>

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KJ -

There are only 3 forms of " food " - protein, carbohydrates, and fats. There are

other aspects to these food-types far too numerous to even mention. I think

trying to reduce what is probably an extremely complex problem to a food type is

not going to yield any useful answers. (Why do Koala bears only eat Eucalyptus

leaves??)

Dr. Stricker proposes that the proven presence of agrobacteria in patients is

creating plant material in them, and this may be the answer to why things like

springtails are attracted (and fungus gnats, etc).

I hate to sound negative, but I think the answers to these questions are WAY

beyond people like us to answer. They are going to have to come from highly

trained microbiologists and the like.

I know that we are all strapped for money, but if anyone reading this can spare

any, donations to OSU - Dr. Wymore will probably do more than trying to figure

this out on our own. I donate to Dr. Wymore.

Bessie

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> > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after

> > extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also

> > read about them is that they often enter our environment because they

> > love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that

> > accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay

> > pots?

> >

> > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of

> > all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual buying

> > frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live

> > year round. Silly me!

> >

> > Any ideas re this salt theory?

> >

> > katiejill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the focus, Bessie, and I have been thinking about doing that.

katie

From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas@...>Subject: Re: Jumpers=Colembolla? Attracted to accumulated salts in potted plants?bird mites Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 9:30 AM

KJ -There are only 3 forms of "food" - protein, carbohydrates, and fats. There are other aspects to these food-types far too numerous to even mention. I think trying to reduce what is probably an extremely complex problem to a food type is not going to yield any useful answers. (Why do Koala bears only eat Eucalyptus leaves??)Dr. Stricker proposes that the proven presence of agrobacteria in patients is creating plant material in them, and this may be the answer to why things like springtails are attracted (and fungus gnats, etc).I hate to sound negative, but I think the answers to these questions are WAY beyond people like us to answer. They are going to have to come from highly trained microbiologists and the like.I know that we are all strapped for money, but if anyone reading this can spare any, donations to OSU - Dr. Wymore will probably do more than trying to figure this out on our own. I donate to Dr.

Wymore.Bessie> >> > > > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after> > extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also> > read about them is that they often enter our environment because they> > love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that> > accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay> > pots?> > > > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of> > all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual

buying> > frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live> > year round. Silly me!> > > > Any ideas re this salt theory?> > > > katiejill> >>

[Guest guest]

Bessie, can you give us an address to send donations?

Joan

Re: Jumpers=Colembolla? Attracted to accumulated salts in potted plants?

KJ -There are only 3 forms of "food" - protein, carbohydrates, and fats. There are other aspects to these food-types far too numerous to even mention. I think trying to reduce what is probably an extremely complex problem to a food type is not going to yield any useful answers. (Why do Koala bears only eat Eucalyptus leaves??)Dr. Stricker proposes that the proven presence of agrobacteria in patients is creating plant material in them, and this may be the answer to why things like springtails are attracted (and fungus gnats, etc).I hate to sound negative, but I think the answers to these questions are WAY beyond people like us to answer. They are going to have to come from highly trained microbiologists and the like.I know that we are all strapped for money, but if anyone reading this can spare any, donations to OSU - Dr. Wymore will probably do more than trying to figure this out on our own. I donate to Dr. Wymore.Bessie> >> > > > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after> > extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also> > read about them is that they often enter our environment because they> > love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that> > accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay> > pots?> > > > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of> > all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual buying> > frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live> > year round. Silly me!> > > > Any ideas re this salt theory?> > > > katiejill> >>

[Guest guest]

Is Dr. Wymore still doing research for morgs?

The stuff out there on the internet are now a few years old. After reading this

letter from him, I thought maybe he got tired of this and quit his morgs

research b/c it seems he's so unappreciated...

http://www.cherokeechas.com/rwupda04.htm

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> > >

> > > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after

> > > extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also

> > > read about them is that they often enter our environment because they

> > > love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that

> > > accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay

> > > pots?

> > >

> > > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of

> > > all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual buying

> > > frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live

> > > year round. Silly me!

> > >

> > > Any ideas re this salt theory?

> > >

> > > katiejill

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> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is Dr. Wymore's talk at last year's conference. Unfortunately, it does not

show the images he is discussing (bad video-taping job):

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Dr+Wymore & hl=en & emb=0#

I think it will illuminate some of the complexity involved here.

Bessie

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> > >

> > > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after

> > > extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also

> > > read about them is that they often enter our environment because they

> > > love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that

> > > accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay

> > > pots?

> > >

> > > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of

> > > all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual buying

> > > frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live

> > > year round. Silly me!

> > >

> > > Any ideas re this salt theory?

> > >

> > > katiejill

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Joan -

Yes - it is:

Oklahoma State University Foundation

Morgellons Research

P.O. Box 1749

Stillwater, OK 74076

I know that they are trying to raise about $10,000 to do dna analysis (they have

most of the money already). If you put " Morgellons research - DNA analysis " on

the memo line, that will earmark it. Also include a small note just to be SURE

it goes to the right place. Thank you, Joan and anyone else who can swing even

$10.00.

Bessie

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> > >

> > > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after

> > > extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I also

> > > read about them is that they often enter our environment because they

> > > love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that

> > > accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain clay

> > > pots?

> > >

> > > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of

> > > all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual buying

> > > frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live

> > > year round. Silly me!

> > >

> > > Any ideas re this salt theory?

> > >

> > > katiejill

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kixx -

Absolutely. Here's the situation. He is a full time professor teaching medical

students at OSU, and that is what he is paid for. All of the work he does for

Morgellons is on his own time. OSU is supporting his efforts by paying for an

assistant to him (not a PhD). As you may know, all research MUST be replicated

(verified) by independent labs/researchers, etc. All the money for that is paid

for through public donations.

If you watch the video I just posted, I think you will get a real good idea of

this guy's sincerity and commitment.

Bessie

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> > > > When I had a jumper, it was a colembolla. I identified it after

> > > > extensive searching through university entomology websites. What I

also

> > > > read about them is that they often enter our environment because they

> > > > love the dirt in old potted plants, not sure why, the salts that

> > > > accumulate from longterm watering maybe, the same salts that stain

clay

> > > > pots?

> > > >

> > > > My colembolla problem SEEMED to go away when I immediately got rid of

> > > > all 27 of my aging potted plants, the remnants of an annual buying

> > > > frenzy in which I thought I was buying indoor plants that would live

> > > > year round. Silly me!

> > > >

> > > > Any ideas re this salt theory?

> > > >

> > > > katiejill

> > > >

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