Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hi, frito, I've been doing Salt+lemon juice for four days now with gastric results. The combination of this with a mild Roach Prufe+H2O2+lots of water covered with ESP balm all the time seems to be bringing deep lumps up from under my skin, especially in fatty tissues, but also from muscled areas. katie > > Here is a copy of a letter to one of the lyme forums. I found the > symptomology to be quite similar to what happened to us after the > birdmites. > > " Hi Saltgang, > > " I'm amazed !! After 2-3 years of ridding lyme (obviously, due to > all the herxes) with different pieces of equipment and gaining my > life back slowly but surely over the last 20 months, the last ten > days, being on the salt and C were much like a rapid time trip > through a number of symptoms and reactions from the hole period of > being sick with lyme from summer 2002 till now. And: (!) on day > eleven of the protocol I woke up just fine. I mean perfectly fine and > strong and well and symptom-free and happy !!!!! > > " is this it....? > > " Let me tell you a little how this went for me... > > " I have to start with the question, if my way of taking the Salt and > the vit C is (officially) correct and if I can forward it like that > to my group. (it seems to work) I mix 14-15g of natural (no > additives) atlantic-sea-salt from my healthfood store with 12-13g of > pure Vitamin C powder in one big glass of water. I finish the glass > through the day by drinking little amounts appr. every hour or so. > any comments please... > > " For the first day or two on the S-C I was not sure if I was still > having that nasty cold I had just overcome when I started with the > protocol or if this was already reacting.. by now the picture is > pretty clear..the symptoms were nightsweats, muscle-trembles, itching > at the spot where the tick got me (!), swollen eyes also dry and > itching, aching joints, very low energy. " movement-sensations " in > muscle tissues, especially in my left leg, where problems were > generally high.. head aches, hurting lymph nodes all over, two times > I had the sensation of something stinging through my skin from the > inside out for like half a minute (!)... etc. " > > " I was feeling sick again but as an experienced herxer I was feeling > save. I didn't have any symptom that could have come from the S-C, > like problems with digestion etc. it was all a bunch of terrorized > bugs goin' nuts all over and loosing it. That's my conclusion, now, > because I feel amazingly well and in peace, something very good has > happened, it reminds me a lot of how it was before I ever had lyme. " > > " I might experience " some more trouble " I guess, but somehow I > wouldn't also be surprised if this has knocked out huge amounts of > bugs and there might be not many left..I'm afraid. It seems much > more broad-band effective than what I've experienced with rifing so > far, where we do kill some of the bugs but obviously leave some too, > or I wouldn't have reacted like this.. " > > " What I love so much about the whole idea is, that no matter what bug > it is or even if it's one that hasn't got a name yet, it might just > go to hell anyway. " > > This letter can be found in Lymestategies in the links section under > mixture. > > Be well all.....Frito > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 KJ Will you please post the salt/c protocol that you are following? When you can. Thanks Holly > > > > Here is a copy of a letter to one of the lyme forums. I found the > > symptomology to be quite similar to what happened to us after the > > birdmites. > > > > " Hi Saltgang, > > > > " I'm amazed !! After 2-3 years of ridding lyme (obviously, due to > > all the herxes) with different pieces of equipment and gaining my > > life back slowly but surely over the last 20 months, the last ten > > days, being on the salt and C were much like a rapid time trip > > through a number of symptoms and reactions from the hole period of > > being sick with lyme from summer 2002 till now. And: (!) on day > > eleven of the protocol I woke up just fine. I mean perfectly fine and > > strong and well and symptom-free and happy !!!!! > > > > " is this it....? > > > > " Let me tell you a little how this went for me... > > > > " I have to start with the question, if my way of taking the Salt and > > the vit C is (officially) correct and if I can forward it like that > > to my group. (it seems to work) I mix 14-15g of natural (no > > additives) atlantic-sea-salt from my healthfood store with 12-13g of > > pure Vitamin C powder in one big glass of water. I finish the glass > > through the day by drinking little amounts appr. every hour or so. > > any comments please... > > > > " For the first day or two on the S-C I was not sure if I was still > > having that nasty cold I had just overcome when I started with the > > protocol or if this was already reacting.. by now the picture is > > pretty clear..the symptoms were nightsweats, muscle-trembles, itching > > at the spot where the tick got me (!), swollen eyes also dry and > > itching, aching joints, very low energy. " movement-sensations " in > > muscle tissues, especially in my left leg, where problems were > > generally high.. head aches, hurting lymph nodes all over, two times > > I had the sensation of something stinging through my skin from the > > inside out for like half a minute (!)... etc. " > > > > " I was feeling sick again but as an experienced herxer I was feeling > > save. I didn't have any symptom that could have come from the S-C, > > like problems with digestion etc. it was all a bunch of terrorized > > bugs goin' nuts all over and loosing it. That's my conclusion, now, > > because I feel amazingly well and in peace, something very good has > > happened, it reminds me a lot of how it was before I ever had lyme. " > > > > " I might experience " some more trouble " I guess, but somehow I > > wouldn't also be surprised if this has knocked out huge amounts of > > bugs and there might be not many left..I'm afraid. It seems much > > more broad-band effective than what I've experienced with rifing so > > far, where we do kill some of the bugs but obviously leave some too, > > or I wouldn't have reacted like this.. " > > > > " What I love so much about the whole idea is, that no matter what bug > > it is or even if it's one that hasn't got a name yet, it might just > > go to hell anyway. " > > > > This letter can be found in Lymestategies in the links section under > > mixture. > > > > Be well all.....Frito > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 So how much salt and vit C are we to use? My measuring spoon is in oz/ml, not grams... So according to this (courtesy of google): 1 teaspoon of salt (NaCL) = 6 grams of NaCL or 2,360 mg of sodium (Na). (Na molecular wt is 23, Cl is 35.5, so NaCl is 58.5, so Na is 40 % times grams of wt of NaCl.) So 1 gram NaCl X 1 tsp/6 g NaCl = 0.16667 tsp NaCl or if you want Sodium ( how salt is expressed on food labels) then 1 gram of Na X 1 tsp NaCl/2.360 gram Na = 0.42 tsp Na. we're to use 15g x .42 = 6.3 teaspoon... is my math right? 1 teaspoon is 5ml so that's 31.5ml of salt... that's A LOT of salt don't ya think? How about long term effects from too much sodium, like kidney stones (oh the horror! Just watch the movie Green Mile). I've been using 15ml salt the last few days b/c of using a rudimentary 1g = 1ml math (yes, it's incorrect dose). And how much vit C are we to take? The original post says " 12-13g of pure Vitamin C " . I have vit C tablets and each is 1000mg. So am I to take 12 tablets a day? Surely that can't be right. And how about the effects of taking too much vit C? http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health & res=9407e4db173df93aa35757\ c0a96e958260 Like using RP, I want to get down to the safety of this. -k > > > > > > Here is a copy of a letter to one of the lyme forums. I found the > > > symptomology to be quite similar to what happened to us after the > > > birdmites. > > > > > > " Hi Saltgang, > > > > > > " I'm amazed !! After 2-3 years of ridding lyme (obviously, due to > > > all the herxes) with different pieces of equipment and gaining my > > > life back slowly but surely over the last 20 months, the last ten > > > days, being on the salt and C were much like a rapid time trip > > > through a number of symptoms and reactions from the hole period of > > > being sick with lyme from summer 2002 till now. And: (!) on day > > > eleven of the protocol I woke up just fine. I mean perfectly fine and > > > strong and well and symptom-free and happy !!!!! > > > > > > " is this it....? > > > > > > " Let me tell you a little how this went for me... > > > > > > " I have to start with the question, if my way of taking the Salt and > > > the vit C is (officially) correct and if I can forward it like that > > > to my group. (it seems to work) I mix 14-15g of natural (no > > > additives) atlantic-sea-salt from my healthfood store with 12-13g of > > > pure Vitamin C powder in one big glass of water. I finish the glass > > > through the day by drinking little amounts appr. every hour or so. > > > any comments please... > > > > > > " For the first day or two on the S-C I was not sure if I was still > > > having that nasty cold I had just overcome when I started with the > > > protocol or if this was already reacting.. by now the picture is > > > pretty clear..the symptoms were nightsweats, muscle-trembles, itching > > > at the spot where the tick got me (!), swollen eyes also dry and > > > itching, aching joints, very low energy. " movement-sensations " in > > > muscle tissues, especially in my left leg, where problems were > > > generally high.. head aches, hurting lymph nodes all over, two times > > > I had the sensation of something stinging through my skin from the > > > inside out for like half a minute (!)... etc. " > > > > > > " I was feeling sick again but as an experienced herxer I was feeling > > > save. I didn't have any symptom that could have come from the S-C, > > > like problems with digestion etc. it was all a bunch of terrorized > > > bugs goin' nuts all over and loosing it. That's my conclusion, now, > > > because I feel amazingly well and in peace, something very good has > > > happened, it reminds me a lot of how it was before I ever had lyme. " > > > > > > " I might experience " some more trouble " I guess, but somehow I > > > wouldn't also be surprised if this has knocked out huge amounts of > > > bugs and there might be not many left..I'm afraid. It seems much > > > more broad-band effective than what I've experienced with rifing so > > > far, where we do kill some of the bugs but obviously leave some too, > > > or I wouldn't have reacted like this.. " > > > > > > " What I love so much about the whole idea is, that no matter what bug > > > it is or even if it's one that hasn't got a name yet, it might just > > > go to hell anyway. " > > > > > > This letter can be found in Lymestategies in the links section under > > > mixture. > > > > > > Be well all.....Frito > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm mixing it as strong as I can stand the salt relative to the lemon juice and it seems to be working. I would estimate what I am winding up with after I kept diluting my original way too salty mixture of half and half lemon juice and sea salt, is probably 1/4 sea salt, or 1 part sea salt to 3 parts of lemon juice. To that I am adding any artificial sweetener I have on hand, in this case Splenda, ran out of that as the mixture just seemed to get SALTIER with the Splenda, then I found a bottle of dark clover honey and it is just right, doesn't take much, cuts that intense saltiness enough that I can stand to do this. I have added salt and lemon juice or just ACV to the Lipton diet green tea. I dislike Aspartame normally, but it is good in this tea, and a friend of mine said Aspartame was not developed as a sweetener, but to kill ants! Ants again...and living in me, albeit temporarily, as well, lol (yes, it's true) katie > > > > > > > > Here is a copy of a letter to one of the lyme forums. I found the > > > > symptomology to be quite similar to what happened to us after the > > > > birdmites. > > > > > > > > " Hi Saltgang, > > > > > > > > " I'm amazed !! After 2-3 years of ridding lyme (obviously, due to > > > > all the herxes) with different pieces of equipment and gaining my > > > > life back slowly but surely over the last 20 months, the last ten > > > > days, being on the salt and C were much like a rapid time trip > > > > through a number of symptoms and reactions from the hole period of > > > > being sick with lyme from summer 2002 till now. And: (!) on day > > > > eleven of the protocol I woke up just fine. I mean perfectly fine and > > > > strong and well and symptom-free and happy !!!!! > > > > > > > > " is this it....? > > > > > > > > " Let me tell you a little how this went for me... > > > > > > > > " I have to start with the question, if my way of taking the Salt and > > > > the vit C is (officially) correct and if I can forward it like that > > > > to my group. (it seems to work) I mix 14-15g of natural (no > > > > additives) atlantic-sea-salt from my healthfood store with 12-13g of > > > > pure Vitamin C powder in one big glass of water. I finish the glass > > > > through the day by drinking little amounts appr. every hour or so. > > > > any comments please... > > > > > > > > " For the first day or two on the S-C I was not sure if I was still > > > > having that nasty cold I had just overcome when I started with the > > > > protocol or if this was already reacting.. by now the picture is > > > > pretty clear..the symptoms were nightsweats, muscle-trembles, itching > > > > at the spot where the tick got me (!), swollen eyes also dry and > > > > itching, aching joints, very low energy. " movement-sensations " in > > > > muscle tissues, especially in my left leg, where problems were > > > > generally high.. head aches, hurting lymph nodes all over, two times > > > > I had the sensation of something stinging through my skin from the > > > > inside out for like half a minute (!)... etc. " > > > > > > > > " I was feeling sick again but as an experienced herxer I was feeling > > > > save. I didn't have any symptom that could have come from the S-C, > > > > like problems with digestion etc. it was all a bunch of terrorized > > > > bugs goin' nuts all over and loosing it. That's my conclusion, now, > > > > because I feel amazingly well and in peace, something very good has > > > > happened, it reminds me a lot of how it was before I ever had lyme. " > > > > > > > > " I might experience " some more trouble " I guess, but somehow I > > > > wouldn't also be surprised if this has knocked out huge amounts of > > > > bugs and there might be not many left..I'm afraid. It seems much > > > > more broad-band effective than what I've experienced with rifing so > > > > far, where we do kill some of the bugs but obviously leave some too, > > > > or I wouldn't have reacted like this.. " > > > > > > > > " What I love so much about the whole idea is, that no matter what bug > > > > it is or even if it's one that hasn't got a name yet, it might just > > > > go to hell anyway. " > > > > > > > > This letter can be found in Lymestategies in the links section under > > > > mixture. > > > > > > > > Be well all.....Frito > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 The only way I know to tell if it is too strong is if it makes me nauseous. Also, I can't drink as much during the week or I wouldn't be able to go to work :-) katie > > > I'm mixing it as strong as I can stand the salt relative to the lemon > juice and it seems to be working. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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