Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hi WTG, thanks for the tip. When you rub the borax on your eyebrows, does it also stop attacks in the eyes themselves? > > > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting salt water > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get them out > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric acid wash > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day but it made > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine around my eyes > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 My attacks are on in the eyes but the skin around them and up to the eye itself. I'm careful not to get it in my eyes (close eyes while applying). WTG................... > > > > > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting salt water > > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get them out > > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric acid wash > > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day but it made > > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine around my eyes > > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 > > > > > > > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting salt > water > > > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get > them out > > > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric > acid wash > > > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day but > it made > > > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine around > my eyes > > > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 V, Yes, ditch the glasses. If your symptoms are this obvious that a doctor could not ignore them, you might want to go to an Urgent care center. They will probable put you on anti-biotics, which some people are on already (you might not have a choice). It's called anti- biotics for life and Doctors like Geore Schwarts are recommending this for some of their patients. E-mail Ladydee as she has more INFO on this. WTG........... > >> > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting salt > > water > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get > > them out > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric > > acid wash > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day but > > it made > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine around > > my eyes > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Tommy - Dr. Kolb? Bessie > > >> > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting salt > > > water > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get > > > them out > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric > > > acid wash > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day but > > > it made > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine around > > > my eyes > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 WTG, do you think Ivermectin would clear these things out of my eyes? I've heard that it works on sarcoptic mites but not so sure about blood feeders. I don't have insurance so I'd need to order online from one of those offshore operations. > > >> > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting > salt > > > water > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get > > > them out > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric > > > acid wash > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day > but > > > it made > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine > around > > > my eyes > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 V, The eye attacks for me are coming from the environment, directly. That's why I use borax (acid) to stop them. The Ivermectin is being used now by people to treat and control parasites that attack the body. If the attacking insect is going for the eyes to get water then Ivermectin will probably not help. Right now " who knows " . If you want to try the Ivermectin, Mel is very knowledgable in this area. WTG...(- -- In bird mites , " vbscribe " <vbscribe@...> wrote: > > WTG, do you think Ivermectin would clear these things out of my eyes? > I've heard that it works on sarcoptic mites but not so sure about > blood feeders. I don't have insurance so I'd need to order online from > one of those offshore operations. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting > > salt > > > > water > > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get > > > > them out > > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric > > > > acid wash > > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day > > but > > > > it made > > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine > > around > > > > my eyes > > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 DR Kolb is on the right track and has gone with the evidence that a Bryozoan is involved in most cases. This is what I have believed for a long time and that the parasite of Bryozoan " buddenbrockia worm " is being seen on the surface of the skin. The conclusion of most researchers is where I disagree,and calling everything Morgellons is just too confusing. WTG...... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting > salt > > > > > water > > > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get > > > > > them out > > > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric > > > > > acid wash > > > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day > but > > > > > it made > > > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine > around > > > > > my eyes > > > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 The experiment that Dr Kolb did with the specimen going thru a latex glove was done by my associate Steve Safrey a few years ago. The organism that attacks the hand seems to have the ability to melt right thru thin material. How? By breaking down into particles that act as a single individual and communicate with the group. If you had this ability you could fall to the floor in a million pieces, crawl under a door and put yourself back together on the other side (nanobacteria/nanoparticle). Don't worry scientists have said there're not really alive. WTG....... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting > > salt > > > > > > > water > > > > > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I > get > > > > > > > them out > > > > > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the > boric > > > > > > > acid wash > > > > > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one > day > > but > > > > > > > it made > > > > > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine > > around > > > > > > > my eyes > > > > > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Tommy - I see a doctor here in FL, who is Board certified Internal Medicine and Integrative Medicine. BUT - the doctor (actually a PhD) who is directing my care is Dr. Staninger in LA. I have never been to her office, but she evaluated me based on an interview, and ordered blood work in cooperation with my local doctor. Dr. Staninger and Dr. Kolb have been on the radio together, twice. If you haven't heard these interviews I can send you the links. I think they are pretty close in tx approaches, although Dr. Kolb does us rx meds at times (Dr. Staninger does not recommend them at all). Good luck...love to hear how it goes. Bessie > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting > > salt > > > > > > > water > > > > > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I get > > > > > > > them out > > > > > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the boric > > > > > > > acid wash > > > > > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one day > > but > > > > > > > it made > > > > > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine > > around > > > > > > > my eyes > > > > > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 The only place I see them is on my cheek, yes white. I use the borax (dry) and they come out. I think they are a marine life form " buddenbrockia worm " (jellyfish). My face is doing so good now " I'm a happy clam " . Yeah, got to keep my head up and don't look down, too scarey..WTG... > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been snorting > > > salt > > > > > > > > > water > > > > > > > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I > > get > > > > > > > > > them out > > > > > > > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the > > boric > > > > > > > > > acid wash > > > > > > > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one > > day > > > but > > > > > > > > > it made > > > > > > > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine > > > around > > > > > > > > > my eyes > > > > > > > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Scientists don't want to say they are creating life by making NanoParticles/NanoBacteria, so although these things are self reproducing, they just say " it's not real life " . To be scientific I can't say we are dealing with NanoParticles but whatever it is, it's close to that. WTG > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > The things love my eyes and nostrils. I've been > > snorting > > > > salt > > > > > > > > > > > water > > > > > > > > > > >> > > everyday to control the nose infestation, but how can I > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > them out > > > > > > > > > > >> > > of my eyes and keep them from coming back? I tried the > > > boric > > > > > > > > > > > acid wash > > > > > > > > > > >> > > (1 tsp to 1 cup water) - it got the things out for one > > > day > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > it made > > > > > > > > > > >> > > my eyes ache and affected my vision. I even rub iodine > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > my eyes > > > > > > > > > > >> > > and on my lashes, but they remain. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 The Drs. Kolb & Staninger interviews are here http://www.plastikos.com/radio_show_archive.htm Look down the page for the dates 8/2, 5/10 & 3/8 of 2008. Just listening to them again so had the page up. Both doctors mention how they've gotten insurance to pay for their patients. (Interesting discussion of codes for the medics in our group.) Dr. Staninger's website is www.staningerreport.com In the boxes to the left, you'll find her consultation fees third from the bottom., along with her contact info. Thinking of you each & all! Best wishes, Sue Yes Bessie I am going next monday the 19th. Have you seen anyone Bessie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Adam, thanks for letting me know you couldn't get to her site. She mentions it wasn't working sometimes. You may want to call her again & explain your reluctance to have your doctor call her. Just be frank with her. Ask her if your insurance would cover her fees. Of course she'll need your current doc's records, but she can get them directly with your permission. The following is copied from that site: To Schedule Consultations with: Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, RIET-1 Industrial Toxicologist/IH & Doctor of Integrative Medicine 1. Contact Integrative Health Systems, LLC, office at 323-466-2599 to schedule an appointment, fax 323-466-2774.. 2. ALL NEW patients are to schedule a 1 hour office consultation with Dr. Staninger or IHS visiting specialist. 3. Documents to be completed will be faxed, mailed or e-mailed immediately to the client when their appointment is scheduled. 4. All NEW consultation clients must bring with them to the IHS office their completed information forms (health and symptoms, consent, questionnaires and other documents) at the time of their appointment, or arrive 30 minutes prior to appointment time to allow for finalization of paperwork. 5. Consultation Fee Schedule is as follows: All NEW Clients (1 hour) Office or Telephone - $225.00 Follow-Up Office or Telephone Consult (1/2 hour) - 80.00 Visiting Specialist $295.00 to $495.00 per hour FIR Radiant Heat Therapy - $140.00/hr Family Health Plan TBD in Office** Health Aid TBD in Office** Products or Equipment Costs Furnished on request. (**) must meet specific requirements to obtain this professional service. 6. Follow-up 1/2 hour consultations are recommended at 30 and 90 days after your initial consultation. 7. All 1-hour and 30-minute consultations are pre-paid when the appointment is scheduled by credit or debit card, check, money order or cash. If canceled or changed 24-hours ahead of appointment, appointment will be re-scheduled. There will be no refunds. All sales including shipping and handling are final and non-refundable. All MPS Global, Inc. products are under warranty as stated in warranty guideline. Parking near the office is free. If parking on N. Larchmont Blvd. meter is 25 cents or more. If you are receiving FIR Therapy, you may want to bring comfortable clothing to change into prior to treatment. Office Hours are Monday thru Friday, 9:30AM to 6PM; Saturdays by special arrangement. Any additional questions, please contact the IHS, LLC office - 323- 466-2599. Consultation will include: A. Determination of toxicological exposure. (i.e., Toxins, parent compounds and xenobiotic metabolites) B. Custom protocol for cellular support determined from case history. C. Toxicologist provides co-consulting toxilogical support to the individual's primary health care provider, If appropriate. Physician and or Doctor outlined biological monitoring test services are also offered. Optional services: Outline of biological monitoring tests for the individual's physician, other health-care professional or the individual, them self, to order . (National Labs will perform these tests and they are standard tests under Medicare.) A. Additional fee to iHs, LLC of $125 for the custom outline of tests to be ordered. . B. The results of these tests when evaluated by toxicologist are known as a 'Toxicological Dysfunction Analyses' (TDA) - Written report by toxicologist - $375.00 -1 copy to patient and physician, additional copies are $75.00 per copy http://www.staningerreport.com/#NewConsult.html Best wishes, Sue The Drs. Kolb & Staninger interviews are here http://www.plastikos.com/radio_show_archive.htm Look down the page for the dates 8/2, 5/10 & 3/8 of 2008. Just listening to them again so had the page up. Both doctors mention how they've gotten insurance to pay for their patients. (Interesting discussion of codes for the medics in our group.) Dr. Staninger's website is http://www.staningerreport.com In the boxes to the left, you'll find her consultation fees third from the bottom., along with her contact info. Thinking of you each & all! Best wishes, Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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