Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by Holly, Rita, Joan... Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder correct? It says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as the " Roach Away " (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart awhile ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products? So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric acid, correct? The label for Roach Away says " Harmful if swallowed or absorbed through the skin " . Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of the safety discussions that may have happened on the forum already but is it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding the powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yes, Roach Prufe is basically boric acid. The difference is in the way they make it. Roach Prufe is designed not to clump together and has 1/4 the contain empty so that it can be shoke and then distrubited as a fine powder. I tried both the boric acid and the roach prufe. Boric acid was clumped together and I couldn't get it any where. From: kihunrc <kihunshin@...>Subject: roach prufe = boric acid = same as other brands?bird mites Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:46 AM I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by Holly, Rita, Joan...Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder correct? It says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as the "Roach Away" (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart awhile ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products?So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric acid, correct?The label for Roach Away says "Harmful if swallowed or absorbed through the skin". Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of the safety discussions that may have happened on the forum already but is it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding the powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Oh ok... " Roach Away " (Enoz brand, made by Willert Home Products, St Louis) that I picked up at Walmart comes in one of those large plastic ketchup bottle looking containers with a cone tip so you can puff it out by squeezing the bottle. It is not clumpy and the 1 lb bottle was around $3 I think... 99% boric acid. How come roach prufe costs so much? It's around $10 for 1 lb, correct? > > From: kihunrc <kihunshin@...> > Subject: roach prufe = boric acid = same as other brands? > bird mites > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:46 AM > > > > > > > I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by Holly, > Rita, Joan... > > Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder correct? It > says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as the " Roach > Away " (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart awhile > ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products? > > So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric acid, > correct? > > The label for Roach Away says " Harmful if swallowed or absorbed > through the skin " . Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of the > safety discussions that may have happened on the forum already but is > it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding the > powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 If you do use boric acid, try putting some in a mug and using a pointed tsp or grapefruit spoon.Makes precise application possible. You can literally direct a few grains only into every little nook and cranny. Take time? Not too bad. It doesn't give the same coverage as the fogger/duster, but if you don't have one of those it is great in a pinch. Also, those ketchup style containers are great for storing and pouring menthol crystals. You can either leave the cap off altogether or cut it off at the base of the cone. Yet another option is suitable for menthol crystals as well, and that is parmesan cheese shakers. I dispense the menthol crystals through the half cap size hole rather than the 3 small round holes. Finally, always avoid breathing any borate! katiejill > > > > From: kihunrc kihunshin@> > Subject: roach prufe = boric acid = same as other > brands?> > bird mites > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:46 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by Holly, > > Rita, Joan...> > > > Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder correct? It > > says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as the "Roach > > Away" (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart > awhile > > ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products?> > > > So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric acid, > > correct?> > > > The label for Roach Away says "Harmful if swallowed or absorbed > > through the skin". Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of the > > safety discussions that may have happened on the forum already but > is > > it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding the > > powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 So are ppl here starting to switch out of DE and onto boric acid now, but dusted/puffed the same way we do with DE? I'm trying to stick with what works and not trying to switch around so much... but reading what boric acid does (clings to bugs, cuts their exokeleton, dries them up), it seems to have the same mechanically damaging properties as DE... > > > > > > From: kihunrc kihunshin@ > > > Subject: roach prufe = boric acid = same as other > > brands? > > > bird mites > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by Holly, > > > Rita, Joan... > > > > > > Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder correct? It > > > says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as the " Roach > > > Away " (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart > > awhile > > > ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products? > > > > > > So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric acid, > > > correct? > > > > > > The label for Roach Away says " Harmful if swallowed or absorbed > > > through the skin " . Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of the > > > safety discussions that may have happened on the forum already but > > is > > > it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding the > > > powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Kihun, take the time to search myrtle and roache prufe and you will find your answers on the safety of roache prufe in powder form. It should not be applied in places where you can disturb and breathe the dust. I only use it in the vac after cleaning up and under a few appliances. bob > > > > > > > > From: kihunrc kihunshin@ > > > > Subject: roach prufe = boric acid = same as > other > > > brands? > > > > bird mites > > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by > Holly, > > > > Rita, Joan... > > > > > > > > Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder correct? > It > > > > says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as > the " Roach > > > > Away " (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart > > > awhile > > > > ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products? > > > > > > > > So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric > acid, > > > > correct? > > > > > > > > The label for Roach Away says " Harmful if swallowed or absorbed > > > > through the skin " . Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of the > > > > safety discussions that may have happened on the forum already > but > > > is > > > > it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding > the > > > > powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Just to let everyone know: I have used roach prufe in my whole familys laundry. Yes, that includes the baby. We have never evcountered ANY problems from using it. If you are scared of using it, then rub it on your arm. If it doesnt make you shrivel and die in 12 hours you are probably fine. I also poofed it all around my apartment. It doesnt kick up like DE. It is electrostatically charged to cling to the surface that it lands on. For the most part it stays put. Rita even uses a fan in her bedroom, and that doesnt even kick it up. I also think it is different from regular boric acid. I dont know the exact logistics, but i read studies where it was studied with many other pest control substances, and it was proven to work the best and the longest. Also the person that i first read about using this even states that they have never seen a boric acid product work like this stuff, and i have to agree. I am doing very well. Have had very little activity for the last three days. I have little to no activity when wearing it. I also found, read, and posted the MSDS sheet on the stuff and it states that it is RELATIVELY safe in all aspects. Now please note that i AM NOT ENDORSING anything. Just passing my experience and research on. You decide for yourself. Please also note that i have never, and never will use this on my baby, or my son. I have noticed that it evaporates with heat. (blow dryer, hair straightner, oven) So i poof it into the dryer after the clothes have dried and put it on a no heat cycle. I use borax int he rinse cycle if the laundry. And turn clothes inside out. Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > From: kihunrc kihunshin@ > > > > > Subject: roach prufe = boric acid = same as > > other > > > > brands? > > > > > bird mites > > > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by > > Holly, > > > > > Rita, Joan... > > > > > > > > > > Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder > correct? > > It > > > > > says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as > > the " Roach > > > > > Away " (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart > > > > awhile > > > > > ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products? > > > > > > > > > > So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric > > acid, > > > > > correct? > > > > > > > > > > The label for Roach Away says " Harmful if swallowed or > absorbed > > > > > through the skin " . Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of > the > > > > > safety discussions that may have happened on the forum > already > > but > > > > is > > > > > it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding > > the > > > > > powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I don't think Roach Prufe is all that toxic, but I am not yet brave enough to add it to the dryer cycle or directly on clothing. I do use it in the wash cycle and I'm sure most of it rinses out. I did read where someone wrote in and said Corn Husker's Lotion had boric acid in it and I looked it up and sure enough it did. Also people have used it (boric acid) for eye drops (1 tsp to 1 cup hot water, dissolved) for years with no ill effects. I think the only difference in Roach Prufe and Boric Acid is that Roach Prufe adds some kind of product to make it stick to things like static electricity. You are supposed to shake the can before you use it. I did try putting borax on Neal's mattress pad and he said it was rough on his skin so don't do that anymore. Just be careful not to inhale it while you are using it and wash your hands after.. Joan roach prufe = boric acid = same as other brands? I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by Holly, Rita, Joan...Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder correct? It says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as the "Roach Away" (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at Walmart awhile ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products?So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric acid, correct?The label for Roach Away says "Harmful if swallowed or absorbed through the skin". Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of the safety discussions that may have happened on the forum already but is it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about adding the powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree with Holly. I have been using it the same way and no longer have clothing issues. I have been putting it in every crack and distributed it around the edge of all rooms.I'm even putting it IN the walls before i tape and putty them. You could drill a small hole and poof some in(between the studs) and patch the wall. It works! I even make a spray with that and 2 squirts of the ESP shampoo in a spray bottle filled the rest of the way with water. Great environment spray. I have bought SO many of the other boric acid products. IF THEY WORKED, TRUST ME, I WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD TO BUY THE ROACH PRUFE. I have bought soooo many. This stuff works. Check to see if you have a reaction to it...like she said. DONT BREATHE IT. And it DOES NOT get airborne after you apply it. if you dont want any contact with it, pull ur carpet up and sprinkle it under the padding. I put mine in a salt and pepper shaker, cause it has tiny holes. I have it sprinkled everywhere and have no problems with it. I am gonna put a bunch of it under the house as soon as I can. Now, i just need to get them to do it next door because that is where ours keep coming from. Good luck, kihun! I hope you find something that works for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: kihunrc kihunshin@ > > > > > > Subject: roach prufe = boric acid = same as > > > other > > > > > brands? > > > > > > bird mites > > > > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting caught up reading about roach prufe endorsed by > > > Holly, > > > > > > Rita, Joan... > > > > > > > > > > > > Roach Prufe is just a brand name of boric acid powder > > correct? > > > It > > > > > > says 99% boric acid, which is the same concentration as > > > the " Roach > > > > > > Away " (brand = Enoz) boric acid powder I picked up at > Walmart > > > > > awhile > > > > > > ago. So I'm assuming they are essentially the same products? > > > > > > > > > > > > So if we don't have roach prufe, we can just use any boric > > > acid, > > > > > > correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > The label for Roach Away says " Harmful if swallowed or > > absorbed > > > > > > through the skin " . Sorry, I bet I'm pretty behind on any of > > the > > > > > > safety discussions that may have happened on the forum > > already > > > but > > > > > is > > > > > > it safe to touch - I'm asking esp after reading about > adding > > > the > > > > > > powder in the dryer to your clothes... Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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