Re: House infestation

January 4, 2009

Hi Miteyman, What are you doing in your environment?

I have been using the ESP environmental spray mix, with dawn and

orange plus in it once a week - the smell is strong the first day....

Sometimes I just do it room by room so I don't overwhelm the whole

house. I also sprayed cedarcide a week ago. The cedarcide electric

sprayer makes a world of difference for me. It gets it everywhere and

is easy to push spray in behind and under big stuff. All upholstery

items I hit with Dustmite and Nylar mixed a couple of times. I'm

hitting it really hard and seem to be feeling results. I find my

spraying seems to be more effective for me when my humidity is low. I

think they drink the stuff up then.

Thanks for the wool sweater help btw.

bob

> >

> > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> >

> > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She left her

> > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with mites

> that

> > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> >

> > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by exposing

> > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and wilderness.

Luckily,

> > her friends figured where she might be and Search and Rescue

found

> > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her toes but

is

> > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

survived

> > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that she is

> alive

> > today.

> >

> > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is completely

lucid,

> > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid herself

> of

> > the mites).

> >

> > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as possible

> > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

sylvarium.

> >

> > I am looking for information on the following:

> >

> > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in North

America

> > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? (I have

> hired

> > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is investigating the

> > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some credibility

> with

> > her psychiatrist.

> >

> > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

treatment

> of

> > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with this

kind

> of

> > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> >

> > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends and other

> > patients from getting the mite too?

> >

> > -How fast do these mites move?

> >

> > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of mite

> > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect others,

so

> > she has been isolating herself.

> >

> > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to another

person?

> I

> > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily move to

> > another.

> >

> > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could get

quickly,

> I

> > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus degreaser.

> After

> > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before exiting the

> > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The clothes are

> > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with some of the

> > info from the web.

> >

> > I have never posted to the internet before, so any pointers would

> be

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> >

>

January 4, 2009

The best way I've found to get the critters out of the house is

Menthol. Menthol crystals in a defuser (heater) is a sure kill(bee

keeper use this in their hives). With central air it's easy. Just put

the defuser, with crystals next to the inlet (in house) of the unit.

Close all outside doors and window and open all doors inside the

house. If there's a vent in a room and you close the door it will not

allow the air to get back to the unit. With no central air, fans can

be used to keep the air moving. Using more then one defuser works

best. Were in the same boat as bees. WTG........................ ---

In bird mites , " " <bobbyboyd99@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Miteyman, What are you doing in your environment?

> I have been using the ESP environmental spray mix, with dawn and

> orange plus in it once a week - the smell is strong the first

day....

> Sometimes I just do it room by room so I don't overwhelm the whole

> house. I also sprayed cedarcide a week ago. The cedarcide electric

> sprayer makes a world of difference for me. It gets it everywhere

and

> is easy to push spray in behind and under big stuff. All

upholstery

> items I hit with Dustmite and Nylar mixed a couple of times. I'm

> hitting it really hard and seem to be feeling results. I find my

> spraying seems to be more effective for me when my humidity is low.

I

> think they drink the stuff up then.

> Thanks for the wool sweater help btw.

>

> bob

>

> > >

> > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > >

> > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She left

her

> > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with mites

> > that

> > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> > >

> > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by exposing

> > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and wilderness.

> Luckily,

> > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and Rescue

> found

> > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her toes but

> is

> > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

> survived

> > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that she is

> > alive

> > > today.

> > >

> > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is completely

> lucid,

> > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid

herself

> > of

> > > the mites).

> > >

> > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

possible

> > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

> sylvarium.

> > >

> > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > >

> > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in North

> America

> > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? (I have

> > hired

> > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is investigating the

> > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

credibility

> > with

> > > her psychiatrist.

> > >

> > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

> treatment

> > of

> > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with this

> kind

> > of

> > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > >

> > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends and

other

> > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > >

> > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > >

> > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of mite

> > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect

others,

> so

> > > she has been isolating herself.

> > >

> > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to another

> person?

> > I

> > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily move to

> > > another.

> > >

> > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could get

> quickly,

> > I

> > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus degreaser.

> > After

> > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before exiting the

> > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The clothes are

> > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with some of

the

> > > info from the web.

> > >

> > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any pointers

would

> > be

> > > appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > >

> >

>

January 4, 2009

Does the menthol affect the furnace filter? This is a very interesting

method. The menthol would coat the inside of the ducts as well,

leaving them with one less place to breed.

> > > >

> > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > >

> > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She left

> her

> > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with mites

> > > that

> > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> > > >

> > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by exposing

> > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and wilderness.

> > Luckily,

> > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and Rescue

> > found

> > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her toes but

> > is

> > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

> > survived

> > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that she is

> > > alive

> > > > today.

> > > >

> > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is completely

> > lucid,

> > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid

> herself

> > > of

> > > > the mites).

> > > >

> > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

> possible

> > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

> > sylvarium.

> > > >

> > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > >

> > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in North

> > America

> > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? (I have

> > > hired

> > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is investigating the

> > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> credibility

> > > with

> > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > >

> > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

> > treatment

> > > of

> > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with this

> > kind

> > > of

> > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > >

> > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends and

> other

> > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > >

> > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > >

> > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of mite

> > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect

> others,

> > so

> > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > >

> > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to another

> > person?

> > > I

> > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily move to

> > > > another.

> > > >

> > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could get

> > quickly,

> > > I

> > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus degreaser.

> > > After

> > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before exiting the

> > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The clothes are

> > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with some of

> the

> > > > info from the web.

> > > >

> > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any pointers

> would

> > > be

> > > > appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 4, 2009

After I did this a few times, I changed filters and didn't notice any

odor or residue. If I did this commercially I would have a blower

outside the house forcing air with menthol into the house. By closing

all windows and vent in the house this would force the air with

menthol thru every crack to the house ,to the outside(pressure inside

house). WTG........................

> > > > >

> > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > > >

> > > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She

left

> > her

> > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with

mites

> > > > that

> > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> > > > >

> > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by

exposing

> > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and wilderness.

> > > Luckily,

> > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and

Rescue

> > > found

> > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her toes

but

> > > is

> > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

> > > survived

> > > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that

she is

> > > > alive

> > > > > today.

> > > > >

> > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is

completely

> > > lucid,

> > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid

> > herself

> > > > of

> > > > > the mites).

> > > > >

> > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

> > possible

> > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

> > > sylvarium.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > > >

> > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in North

> > > America

> > > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? (I

have

> > > > hired

> > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is investigating

the

> > > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> > credibility

> > > > with

> > > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

> > > treatment

> > > > of

> > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with

this

> > > kind

> > > > of

> > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > > >

> > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends and

> > other

> > > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > > >

> > > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > > >

> > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of

mite

> > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect

> > others,

> > > so

> > > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > > >

> > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to another

> > > person?

> > > > I

> > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily move

to

> > > > > another.

> > > > >

> > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could get

> > > quickly,

> > > > I

> > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

degreaser.

> > > > After

> > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before exiting

the

> > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The clothes

are

> > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with some

of

> > the

> > > > > info from the web.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any pointers

> > would

> > > > be

> > > > > appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 4, 2009

Here is some information on menthol crystals and pellets (pellets

last longer) www.mannlakeltd.com sell both. 1-800-880-7694 WTG

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She

> left

> > > her

> > > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with

> mites

> > > > > that

> > > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by

> exposing

> > > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and

wilderness.

> > > > Luckily,

> > > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and

> Rescue

> > > > found

> > > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her

toes

> but

> > > > is

> > > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

> > > > survived

> > > > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that

> she is

> > > > > alive

> > > > > > today.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is

> completely

> > > > lucid,

> > > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid

> > > herself

> > > > > of

> > > > > > the mites).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

> > > possible

> > > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

> > > > sylvarium.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in

North

> > > > America

> > > > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation?

(I

> have

> > > > > hired

> > > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is

investigating

> the

> > > > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> > > credibility

> > > > > with

> > > > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

> > > > treatment

> > > > > of

> > > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with

> this

> > > > kind

> > > > > of

> > > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends

and

> > > other

> > > > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of

> mite

> > > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect

> > > others,

> > > > so

> > > > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to

another

> > > > person?

> > > > > I

> > > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily

move

> to

> > > > > > another.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could

get

> > > > quickly,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

> degreaser.

> > > > > After

> > > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before

exiting

> the

> > > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The

clothes

> are

> > > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with

some

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > info from the web.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any

pointers

> > > would

> > > > > be

> > > > > > appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 5, 2009

Hi WTG, I have had good results with using the menthol burners in the

cars and small spaces too. The problem for me is large rooms. The

vapors only seem to repel them, not kill them, even with two burners

in a room. I have hot water heat and no ac ducts.

bob

> > > >

> > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > >

> > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She left

> her

> > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with

mites

> > > that

> > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> > > >

> > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by

exposing

> > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and wilderness.

> > Luckily,

> > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and Rescue

> > found

> > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her toes

but

> > is

> > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

> > survived

> > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that she

is

> > > alive

> > > > today.

> > > >

> > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is completely

> > lucid,

> > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid

> herself

> > > of

> > > > the mites).

> > > >

> > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

> possible

> > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

> > sylvarium.

> > > >

> > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > >

> > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in North

> > America

> > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? (I

have

> > > hired

> > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is investigating

the

> > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> credibility

> > > with

> > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > >

> > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

> > treatment

> > > of

> > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with this

> > kind

> > > of

> > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > >

> > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends and

> other

> > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > >

> > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > >

> > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of mite

> > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect

> others,

> > so

> > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > >

> > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to another

> > person?

> > > I

> > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily move

to

> > > > another.

> > > >

> > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could get

> > quickly,

> > > I

> > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

degreaser.

> > > After

> > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before exiting

the

> > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The clothes

are

> > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with some of

> the

> > > > info from the web.

> > > >

> > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any pointers

> would

> > > be

> > > > appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 5, 2009

I know having the air moving works better then having a dead air

space. I'm not sure if I killed them or if they just left. Same with

the car. I kept it going for about 8 hours with central air and had 4

defusers. They did come back but it took them awhile since I was

using the defusers full time then. Where do you get you menthol? I

think I payed about $20 for a pound.

WTG...............................

> > > > >

> > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > > >

> > > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She

left

> > her

> > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with

> mites

> > > > that

> > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> > > > >

> > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by

> exposing

> > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and wilderness.

> > > Luckily,

> > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and

Rescue

> > > found

> > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her toes

> but

> > > is

> > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

> > > survived

> > > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that

she

> is

> > > > alive

> > > > > today.

> > > > >

> > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is

completely

> > > lucid,

> > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid

> > herself

> > > > of

> > > > > the mites).

> > > > >

> > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

> > possible

> > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

> > > sylvarium.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > > >

> > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in North

> > > America

> > > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? (I

> have

> > > > hired

> > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is investigating

> the

> > > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> > credibility

> > > > with

> > > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

> > > treatment

> > > > of

> > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with

this

> > > kind

> > > > of

> > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > > >

> > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends and

> > other

> > > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > > >

> > > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > > >

> > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of

mite

> > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect

> > others,

> > > so

> > > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > > >

> > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to another

> > > person?

> > > > I

> > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily move

> to

> > > > > another.

> > > > >

> > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could get

> > > quickly,

> > > > I

> > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

> degreaser.

> > > > After

> > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before exiting

> the

> > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The clothes

> are

> > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with some

of

> > the

> > > > > info from the web.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any pointers

> > would

> > > > be

> > > > > appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 5, 2009

So WTG, do you have any suggestions for safe stuff that kills mites,

not just messes with em? I'm getting a little frustated. My body is

98% clear and the environment now keeps getting me. I'm trying to do

the healthy ways but the results are not fast and my house is on

three levels, overwhelms me. I think we're gonna be having a big Dawn

ho down here soon...with a little onslaught mixed in.

b

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She

> left

> > > her

> > > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with

> > mites

> > > > > that

> > > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by

> > exposing

> > > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and

wilderness.

> > > > Luckily,

> > > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and

> Rescue

> > > > found

> > > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her

toes

> > but

> > > > is

> > > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have

> > > > survived

> > > > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that

> she

> > is

> > > > > alive

> > > > > > today.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is

> completely

> > > > lucid,

> > > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid

> > > herself

> > > > > of

> > > > > > the mites).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

> > > possible

> > > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus

> > > > sylvarium.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in

North

> > > > America

> > > > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation?

(I

> > have

> > > > > hired

> > > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is

investigating

> > the

> > > > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> > > credibility

> > > > > with

> > > > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with

> > > > treatment

> > > > > of

> > > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with

> this

> > > > kind

> > > > > of

> > > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends

and

> > > other

> > > > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of

> mite

> > > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect

> > > others,

> > > > so

> > > > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to

another

> > > > person?

> > > > > I

> > > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily

move

> > to

> > > > > > another.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could

get

> > > > quickly,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

> > degreaser.

> > > > > After

> > > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before

exiting

> > the

> > > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The

clothes

> > are

> > > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with

some

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > info from the web.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any

pointers

> > > would

> > > > > be

> > > > > > appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 5, 2009

Bob,

The only way i can live in my house is with the menthol on and the

air moving. I don't do that any more. I'm mostly gone. Color me ATVs,

fishing, and sucking up margarittas on the beach. I went Native about

10 years ago and gave up the fight. Too cold now so I'm just hanging

out. I also Tryed Phosphoric acid, stronger then " ZEB " that did kill

them on the spot but it was a room to room spraying job. Try that for

your Big Dawn Ho Down. You;ll like it. WTG

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward.

She

> > left

> > > > her

> > > > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend

with

> > > mites

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her

eaves.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by

> > > exposing

> > > > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and

> wilderness.

> > > > > Luckily,

> > > > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and

> > Rescue

> > > > > found

> > > > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her

> toes

> > > but

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would

have

> > > > > survived

> > > > > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky

that

> > she

> > > is

> > > > > > alive

> > > > > > > today.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is

> > completely

> > > > > lucid,

> > > > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can

rid

> > > > herself

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > the mites).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as

> > > > possible

> > > > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species

Ornithonyssus

> > > > > sylvarium.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in

> North

> > > > > America

> > > > > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation?

> (I

> > > have

> > > > > > hired

> > > > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is

> investigating

> > > the

> > > > > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> > > > credibility

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help

with

> > > > > treatment

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience

with

> > this

> > > > > kind

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends

> and

> > > > other

> > > > > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of

> > mite

> > > > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will

infect

> > > > others,

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to

> another

> > > > > person?

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily

> move

> > > to

> > > > > > > another.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could

> get

> > > > > quickly,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

> > > degreaser.

> > > > > > After

> > > > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before

> exiting

> > > the

> > > > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The

> clothes

> > > are

> > > > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with

> some

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > info from the web.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any

> pointers

> > > > would

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > appreciated.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 5, 2009

If you use the " ZEP " Professional Strength which is alright. Be

prepared to leave the room quickly. It will knock you out.

WTG

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward.

> She

> > > left

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend

> with

> > > > mites

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her

> eaves.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by

> > > > exposing

> > > > > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and

> > wilderness.

> > > > > > Luckily,

> > > > > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and

> > > Rescue

> > > > > > found

> > > > > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all

her

> > toes

> > > > but

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would

> have

> > > > > > survived

> > > > > > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky

> that

> > > she

> > > > is

> > > > > > > alive

> > > > > > > > today.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is

> > > completely

> > > > > > lucid,

> > > > > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can

> rid

> > > > > herself

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the mites).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much

as

> > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species

> Ornithonyssus

> > > > > > sylvarium.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am looking for information on the following:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in

> > North

> > > > > > America

> > > > > > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of

infestation?

> > (I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > hired

> > > > > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is

> > investigating

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some

> > > > > credibility

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > her psychiatrist.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help

> with

> > > > > > treatment

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience

> with

> > > this

> > > > > > kind

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting

friends

> > and

> > > > > other

> > > > > > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -How fast do these mites move?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms

of

> > > mite

> > > > > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will

> infect

> > > > > others,

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > she has been isolating herself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to

> > another

> > > > > > person?

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not

readily

> > move

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > another.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I

could

> > get

> > > > > > quickly,

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

> > > > degreaser.

> > > > > > > After

> > > > > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before

> > exiting

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The

> > clothes

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with

> > some

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > info from the web.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any

> > pointers

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > appreciated.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 5, 2009

Yes, menthol and moving air really helped me for the last month or so. I always wear shorts and have a fan & small electric heater blowing on my feet - I find this keeps them away. I notice that now other areas of my apartment have little or no mites. I am wondering if they are attracted by the heater and get burned up by the hot coils.

Also, I rarely sit - I am even typing this message while standing.

-requireshelp

From: wtgwilliamthegreat <gibson-w@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 10:10:46 PMSubject: Re: House infestation

Bob,The only way i can live in my house is with the menthol on and the air moving. I don't do that any more. I'm mostly gone. Color me ATVs, fishing, and sucking up margarittas on the beach. I went Native about 10 years ago and gave up the fight. Too cold now so I'm just hanging out. I also Tryed Phosphoric acid, stronger then "ZEB" that did kill them on the spot but it was a room to room spraying job. Try that for your Big Dawn Ho Down. You;ll like it. WTG> > > > >

> >> > > > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She > > left > > > > her > > > > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with > > > mites > > > > > > that > > > > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by > > > exposing > > > > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and > wilderness. > > > > > Luckily, > > > > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and > > Rescue >

> > > > found > > > > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her > toes > > > but > > > > > is > > > > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have > > > > > survived > > > > > > > another night out without shelter. It is very lucky that > > she > > > is > > > > > > alive > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is > > completely > > > > > lucid, > > > > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid > > > > herself > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the mites).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as > > > > possible > > > > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus > > > > > sylvarium.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for information on the following:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in > North > > > > > America > > > > > > > who have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? > (I > > > have > > > > > > hired > > > > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is > investigating > > > the > > > > > > > technical

literature as I speak) I need to gain some > > > > credibility > > > > > > with > > > > > > > her psychiatrist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with > > > > > treatment > > > > > > of > > > > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with > > this > > > > > kind > > > > > > of > > > > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends > and > > > > other > > > > > > > patients from getting the mite too? > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > -How fast do these mites move? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of > > mite > > > > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect > > > > others, > > > > > so > > > > > > > she has been isolating herself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to > another > > > > > person? > > > > > > I > > > > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily > move > > > to > > > > > > > another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could

> get > > > > > quickly, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus > > > degreaser. > > > > > > After > > > > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before > exiting > > > the > > > > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The > clothes > > > are > > > > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with > some > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > info from the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any > pointers > > > > would > > > > > > be > > > > >

> > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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$16/lb mentol here:

http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/menthol-crystals-p-548.html

From: wtgwilliamthegreat <gibson-w@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 8:24:36 PMSubject: Re: House infestation

I know having the air moving works better then having a dead air space. I'm not sure if I killed them or if they just left. Same with the car. I kept it going for about 8 hours with central air and had 4 defusers. They did come back but it took them awhile since I was using the defusers full time then. Where do you get you menthol? I think I payed about $20 for a pound. WTG......... ......... ......... ....> > > > >> > > > > From: Webb, Banff, Alberta,Canada> > > > > > > > > > My

friend is in a hospital psychiatric ward. She left > > her > > > > > mite infested home after a year of trying to contend with > mites > > > > that > > > > > she thinks originated from pigeons nesting in her eaves. > > > > > > > > > > After driving 600 miles, she tried to kill herself by > exposing > > > > > herself outdoors for five days in the snow and wilderness. > > > Luckily, > > > > > her friends figured where she might be and Search and Rescue > > > found > > > > > her a day and a half ago. She has frostbite on all her toes > but > > > is > > > > > otherwise physically ok. I very much doubt she would have > > > survived > > > > > another night out without shelter.

It is very lucky that she > is > > > > alive > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > She does not need to be in a psych ward as she is completely > > > lucid, > > > > > except that, she says she want to die (unless she can rid > > herself > > > > of > > > > > the mites). > > > > > > > > > > I have spent the 1 1/2 days informing myself as much as > > possible > > > > > about bird mites. She suspects the species Ornithonyssus > > > sylvarium.> > > > > > > > > > I am looking for information on the following:> > > > > > > > > > -Does anyone know of any recommended professionals in North > > > America > > > > > who

have a prior knowledge of this kind of infestation? (I > have > > > > hired > > > > > a local PhD in Parasitology to help me, he is investigating > the > > > > > technical literature as I speak) I need to gain some > > credibility > > > > with > > > > > her psychiatrist. > > > > > > > > > > -Has anyone been able to get a Veterinarian to help with > > > treatment > > > > of > > > > > bird mites? (I think that they have more experience with this > > > kind > > > > of > > > > > thing than the Medical Doctors.)> > > > > > > > > > -What precautions can be taken by her visiting friends and > > other > > > > > patients from getting the mite too?

> > > > > > > > > > -How fast do these mites move? > > > > > > > > > > -What do I tell someone to detect the early symptoms of mite > > > > > infestation? is very afraid that she will infect > > others, > > > so > > > > > she has been isolating herself. > > > > > > > > > > -How often and how easily do the mites transfer to another > > > person? > > > > I > > > > > suspect that once on a person that they do not readily move > to > > > > > another. > > > > > > > > > > What simple things repel them? Because its all I could get > > > quickly, > > > > I > > > > > have had her friends spray their hands with a citrus

> degreaser. > > > > After > > > > > yesterday's visit, I have changed my clothes before exiting > the > > > > > hospital, again just after I entering my house. The clothes > are > > > > > plastic bagged and then laundered. I then shower with some of > > the > > > > > info from the web. > > > > > > > > > > I have never posted to the internet before, so any pointers > > would > > > > be > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank-you, thank-you Webb> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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.. . . . Of course, I am using many other methods including UVC radiation, the microwave, orange oil spray, MMC internally (not so much now), etc. . . My results can be from a combination of such things.

Note that I never used DE, Roach Pruff, invermecin, and some other methods people here suggested.

-requireshelp

From: J S <requireshelp@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 11:00:23 PMSubject: Re: Re: House infestation

Yes, menthol and moving air really helped me for the last month or so. I always wear shorts and have a fan & small electric heater blowing on my feet - I find this keeps them away. I notice that now other areas of my apartment have little or no mites. I am wondering if they are attracted by the heater and get burned up by the hot coils.

Also, I rarely sit - I am even typing this message while standing.

-requireshelp

From: wtgwilliamthegreat <gibson-wsbcglobal (DOT) net>bird mitesSent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 10:10:46 PMSubject: Re: House infestation