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> think about weighing is it once a week or what?

I really have no idea what his opinion is on this any more. He used to say

weigh daily, because then you can see right away if pounds are creeping up,

then he would say to weigh one a week, because weighing daily drives you

crazy. Over the past 20+ years he's gone back and forth, so right now I

don't know where he stands.

Do what's best for *you*. If you can manage to avoid the scale, then once a

week should be plenty, once a month would be ideal. Remember, as a woman

you're going to have all kinds of weight fluctuations depending on the time

of day, the time of the month.

But remember that he numbers on a scale mean nothing to anybody but you.

It's more important to go by how you feel - Can you walk longer distances?

Are your clothes fitting looser? Can you carry a load of laundry up the

stairs without feeling you're about to collapse half-way up? If you're

diabetic, are your blood sugar numbers in a good range? If you have high

blood pressure, are your readings in the normal range?

All of these are more important than what the scale says.

Sue in NJ

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, lots are doing Food Movers but I'm not. I think there's a diversity of food plans. I sure love this group for the practical advice. I joined a few groups to see what would work for me and this is the one I've kept. I think the folks and post here are positive and useful. What plan are you thinking about? What's the scoop? Mienetazzbabygirl@... wrote: Are people in this group are we to be doing Foodmovers or is it anything you want. Thanks for your

help.Your Friend T.In sunny FloridaYV, Miene

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I follow the food mover pretty closely when I'm on program. I've had a bad week but I'm gearing up to start back on track again and get to my next ST goal. I usually exceed the fat content of the food mover but not the calorie count. I'm only concerned with calories, not fat/carbs/sodium though I do try to kind of keep those in mind when I start planning meals. I know that the leaner the meat, the more veggies I squeeze in there, the more I can actually eat.tazzbabygirl@... wrote: Are people in this group are we to be doing Foodmovers or is it anything you want. Thanks for your help.Your Friend T.In sunny Florida

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> Are people in this group are we to be doing Foodmovers

Very few people here are using the food mover. As it says on the homepage:

" Many different food plans are used by the current members, as no one plan

is right for everyone. "

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I am sorry but I am using foodmover and I am getting all nixed up with

this group. I am going no mail because I need help with foodmovers.

Thank for all the time you took with me.

Your Friend

T.

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In a message dated 8/24/2006 5:51:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, tazzbabygirl@... writes:

Are people in this group are we to be doing Foodmovers

I'm not doing the food movers. I am doing a combination of eating smaller portions, exercising, watching my food choices and calories...

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Nan,

As with any treatment, we strongly recommend you talk it over with your

upcoming PCP BEFORE you ingest anything. Some things are harmless whilst

others can be down right dangerous.

Luv

anne

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>A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver

> cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care

> physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do.

> Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything

> yet? Nan

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This was my feeling. I know she probably means well. I don't want to upset the applecart. Thanks Nan elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Dont take anything unless you run it by your doctor first I have a ? A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get

me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? Nan

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Thank you and the MT makes more sence to me then taking a liver cleanse. That was my thought to where my liver isn't healthy right now. I'd like to read about it and possibly get some. Nan Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Hi Nan, Im a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you.. You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,, I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for

your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and not let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure you get a 'siliphos' bound MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you, jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 > wrote: A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any

thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie

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I told her I wasn't comfortable with it. I'm going to ask her about the milk thistle. I don't like taking to many things. Especially when I don't know whats in them. Nan anne <kanga2@...> wrote: Nan,As with any treatment, we strongly recommend you talk it over with your upcoming PCP BEFORE you ingest anything. Some things are harmless whilst others can be down right dangerous.Luvanne I have a ?>A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver> cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care> physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do.> Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs

where I havn't started anything> yet? Nan

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I would like this article because my Dr. said to start taking Milk Thistle. My mother in law is an ND and I'm sure she would loooove to get me all the info I need but I don't want her to get involved because she tends to prefer her own advice over a MD and sometimes I don't think it's appropriate. PLUS... no offense to anyone this is just my opinion but I can't see how you can give true medical advice if you became a dr. through a correspondence course.

Anyway, anytime she give me advice I double check with my dr. this time they are in agreement.

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Hi Nan,

Im a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you.. You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,,

I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and not let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure you get a 'siliphos' bound MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you,

jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 > wrote:

A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie

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thats a good idea Nan,, I am the same way, and some MT brands are not as good as others, but even simple silymarin can help the inflammation in your liver, just make sure you find a "standardized" brand and one that is silipho bound.. then you can be sure what they say is in the bottle IS in the bottle,, and buy from a well known brand such as source naturals,, there are many other very good brands, but at the moment, I just can't think of their names,, lol,, INF caused brain damage, lol,, but talk with your doc before you take anything... you may be taking some other supplement or drug that might not work well with it.. so be careful! jax Pike <magicnan2005@...> wrote: I told her I wasn't comfortable with it. I'm going to ask her about the milk thistle. I don't like taking to many things. Especially when I don't know whats in them. Nan anne <kanga2austarnet.au> wrote: Nan,As with any treatment, we strongly recommend you talk it over with your upcoming PCP BEFORE you ingest anything. Some things are harmless whilst others can be down right dangerous.Luvanne I have a ?>A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver> cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care> physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do.> Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything> yet? Nan Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Jackie

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, I will send it to your email addy as its 6 pages long. I will send it as an attachment that will be screened so you dont have to worry about opening it. Im sending it now so let me know that you got it, ok? hugs, jax Pike <magicnan2005@...> wrote: Thank you and the MT makes more sence to me then taking a liver cleanse. That was my thought to where my liver isn't healthy right now. I'd like to read about it and possibly get some. Nan Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Hi Nan, Im a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and

healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you.. You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,, I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and not let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure you get a 'siliphos' bound MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you, jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 > wrote: A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Jackie

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thats a very good idea ,, lots of herbs are not safe for us.. Pike <magicnan2005@...> wrote: This was my feeling. I know she probably means well. I don't want to upset the applecart. Thanks Nan elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: Dont take anything unless you run it by your doctor first I have a ? A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? Nan oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Jackie

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I will send it to you via your email , as an attachment, it will be ok to open,, jaxraggzcutie@... wrote: I would like this article because my Dr. said to start taking Milk Thistle. My mother in law is an ND and I'm sure she would loooove to get me all the info I need but I don't want her to get involved because she tends to prefer her own advice over a MD and sometimes I don't think it's appropriate. PLUS... no offense to anyone this is just my opinion but I can't see

how you can give true medical advice if you became a dr. through a correspondence course. Anyway, anytime she give me advice I double check with my dr. this time they are in agreement. brandy Re: I have a ? Hi Nan, Im a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you.. You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,, I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and not let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure

you get a 'siliphos' bound MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you, jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 > wrote: A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie Jackie

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Here's the Link to the one that was recommended to me, Nan. https://shop.naturalwellnessonline.com/prodinfo.asp?number=N100 Have you had a biopsy yet? Milk Thistle can sure help heal liver inflammation. I've been taking it 3 x a day for almost a year.. Pike <magicnan2005@...> wrote: Thank you and the MT makes more sence to me then taking a liver cleanse. That was my thought to where my liver isn't healthy right now. I'd like to read about it and possibly get some. Nan Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Hi Nan, Im a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you.. You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,, I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and

not let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure you get a 'siliphos' bound MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you, jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 > wrote: A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

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Thank you for this. I put it in my fav till next payday.lol I'm wating for an apt with a primary care physician at the VA . It shouldn't take to long. This will help as I'm not doing any combo quick fix.I'm going through a doctor. I'm not big on doctos but for this it's to serious. Nan Sheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Here's the Link to the one that was recommended to me, Nan. https://shop.naturalwellnessonline.com/prodinfo.asp?number=N100 Have you had a biopsy yet? Milk Thistle can sure help heal liver inflammation. I've been taking it 3 x a day for almost a year.. Pike <magicnan2005 > wrote: Thank you and the MT makes more sence to me then taking a liver cleanse. That was my thought to where my liver isn't healthy right now. I'd like to read about it and possibly get some. Nan Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Hi Nan, Im a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you.. You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,, I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and not

let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure you get a 'siliphos' bound MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you, jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 > wrote: A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center.

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Thats what I'm doing to as I share this view. I'm into Hollistic but not for this ! Nan raggzcutie@... wrote: I would like this article because my Dr. said to start taking Milk Thistle. My mother in law is an ND and I'm sure she would loooove to get me all the info I need but I don't want her to get involved because she tends to prefer her own advice over a MD and sometimes I don't think it's appropriate. PLUS... no offense to anyone this is just my opinion but I can't see how you can give true medical advice if you became a dr. through a correspondence course. Anyway, anytime she give me advice I double check with my dr. this time they are in agreement. brandy Re: I have a ? Hi Nan, Im a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you..

You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,, I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and not let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure you get a 'siliphos' bound MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you, jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 >

wrote: A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie

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thats good ,, I know 'some' ppl do treat their hep holistically but they are NOT expecting it to be 'cured' by this, they are only hoping to keep their liver as healthy as possible while waiting for better meds to become available.. jax Pike <magicnan2005@...> wrote: Thats what I'm doing to as I share this view. I'm into Hollistic but not for this ! Nan raggzcutiepeoplepc wrote: I would like this article because my Dr. said to start taking Milk Thistle. My mother in law is an ND and I'm sure she would loooove to get me all the info I need but I don't want her to get involved because she tends to prefer her own advice over a MD and sometimes I don't think it's appropriate. PLUS... no offense to anyone this is just my opinion but I can't see how you can give true

medical advice if you became a dr. through a correspondence course. Anyway, anytime she give me advice I double check with my dr. this time they are in agreement. brandy Re: I have a ? Hi Nan, Im

a huge proponent of herbs BUT NOT with hep c.. when your liver is really badly hurting, it might make things worse depending upon what is in the liver cleanse.. now if its just lemon juice and olive oil or lemon juice, molasses and cayenne, that may be ok if used sparinly and carefully, but some cleanes have things that someone with a 'normal and healthy' liver could get away with, but I'd just be very very careful if I were you.. You should, at the very least talk with a health care person before and not just rely on a friend who sells herbs.. they dont have the knowledge about herbs and livers to be safe.,,, I hope I have discouraged you too much but just want to tell you the truth... Are you taking Milk Thistle? now THAT has anti-inflammatory properties that are safe for your liver, it wont get rid of the virus but it can help your liver handle the virus better and not let the virus do as much damage to your liver,, but make sure you get a 'siliphos' bound

MT such as Maximum Milk Thistle or Liver Essentials.. when you use this type of MT, it is 8-10times more effective than simple silymarin.. I can send you a url to a site written by an ND who has done much research on MT and you can read what he has to say if you'd like, just let me know if you are interested in it and Ill send it to you, jaxmagicnan2005 <magicnan2005 > wrote: A friend of mind sells herbs and is trying to get me to do a liver cleanse. I'm waiting for the V.A to send me an apt with a primary care physician so I don't have to pay local hospital more then what I do. Does anyone have any thoughts on herbs where I havn't started anything yet? NanJackie Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Jackie

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