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> WOW Ann!! That's great!! (I see you also thought like me on

> 's marital age).... keep up the good work with your own weight loss,

> too

Thanks . I hit 50 pounds this morning! Official weigh in isn't until

Friday though.

I did the gym Friday and the pool Saturday as planned. More painting and

housecleaning today and maybe a movie this afternoon with the kids.

Kinda sad that I've lost 50 pounds and I still have 100 more to lose by

society's standards but I guess we just can't look at it that way. Too

depressing!

Ann

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Kinda sad that I've lost 50 pounds and I still have 100 more to lose by society's standards but I guess we just can't look at it that way. Too depressing!Right! Just look at the numbers you have lost. 50 pounds is nothing to sneeze at! I am closing in on 20 and I tell you it feels like I have lost 50 myself! I may just take out a full page ad if I ever get to 50 pounds lost!

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That's great that your sis and BIL had surgery with no problems... how long ago? Have they lost and kept weight off? My insurance doesn't cover diet pills or surgery either. I don't know that I would have it if it were offered to me. Sounds like Ann is doing great following her surgery.... don't understand why some folks have such difficulty afterward like 's sister - but I am sure like all things, some have problems, some don't.... praying for your sister to get better !!

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My sister and BIL had WLS and are doing

fantastic. I have considered it but my insurance

does not cover it. If it did I would more than

like have had it by know.

Diane

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> My sister had WLS about two months ago and the

> last two weeks she has been in the hospital.

> She has had nothing but problems ever since she

> had the surgery.

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> My sister had WLS about two months ago and the

> last two weeks she has been in the hospital.

> She has had nothing but problems ever since she

> had the surgery.

That's terrible. What's wrong? I'm sooo glad I didn't have any

complications.

Ann

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--- ABrite@... wrote:

> That's great that your sis and BIL had surgery

> with no problems... how long

> ago? Have they lost and kept weight off?

My DS is 2 years out and so far has kept the

weight off. I think she may have gained a few

pounds back but not many at all.

My BIL just had his a few months ago so he is

still in the honeymoon stage. He is still

losing. I have not seen him since his surgery

but my Mom says he looks really good.

I am doing it the old fashioned hard way!!

Diane

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Hi Ann, I am not sure what all is wrong with her, but ever since she has had that surgery she has had nothing but problems. She got out of the hospital on Sunday and now she is back in again. They had put a feeding tube in her and something has gone wrong with that too. She is not allowed to eat or drink anything at all. She is really really really messed up. I'm so glad you didn't go through what my sister is going through with your WLS. I wouldn't want this for anyone. She is in such a mess, and I am really worried about her. I am not sure all the things that went wrong with her. They don't tell me much. Just mostly that she is in the hospital and not doing well at all. Please keep her in your prayers. from MO. Re: WLS----- Original Message ----- From: Diane S --- <6@...> wrote:> My sister had WLS about two months ago and the> last two weeks she has been in the hospital.> She has had nothing but problems ever since she> had the surgery.That's terrible. What's wrong? I'm sooo glad I didn't have any complications. Ann 100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

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> What (or more importantly WHO) determines if it is working or not?

Slow

> loss is still losing, or would it be you gave it " honest effort " for

6 months

> and did not lose a thing?? Do they (medical person, since this is

supposed to

> be doctor supervised) look through your food log/journal and say

yeah, but

> you could cut this, this and this out of your eating, etc?

It all depends on how money-hungry your surgeon is and what you health

insurance itself insists on. Some surgeons insist on losing 10% of your

current weight and going through weeks of counseling with a psychologist

and nutritionist who will all decide if you're a good candidate for WLS,

because once you get it done you really can't eat more than liquids or

very soft foods for a few weeks, and after that, for the rest of your

life, you have to eat the same exact low cal, low-carb (high protein)

food plan we're all supposed to be on now, around 1200 to 1400 calories.

If either of them decide you're non-compliant and won't be able to

follow that low-cal diet then either of them can say no to you having

the operation.

These docs (and insurance companies) usually also require that you have

a medical condition that *might* be improved when you lose weight, like

high blood pressure or diabetes, and that you weigh at least 100 pounds

more than your ideal weight, meaning a woman 5'5 " who weighs 225 pounds

is eligible if she has a blood sugar one point above the current normal

fasting levels (which are now under 100, where it used to be 120).

Other surgeons just ask if you can afford to pay cash ahead of time and

tell you to get re-imbursed on your own from your insurance companies

(if they cover WLS at all) and schedule the surgery after your initial

consultation with no other prep.

And remember that at best you'll only be losing about half the amount of

excess weight you now have, and some surgeons say if you keep off an

additional 10% of your weight (on top of what you had to lose before

having surgery) by the 2 year mark the surgery was a success. Most

people will lose a large percentage of their excess weight in the first

year but then they're *expected* to regain about half of it back as

their bodies get used to the lower amount of calories being taken in.

And these are successful losers with no complications. Many people have

lapbands and lose nothing or even gain because they're already eating

that 1200 calorie or less diet. Or they do what everyone on a diet does

and start cheating or eat bulkier foods or lots of liquids and stretch

their stomachs out (remember, it's a muscular organ) to the same size as

prior to surgery.

And as Sapphyre noted, many people have complications, like the lapband

becomes too tight and totally constricts their stomachs, or the bands

grow into the stomach tissue itself, or they slip and close off the

esophagus, or people get ulcerated areas on their stomachs from the

pressure of the bands. And that's not even counting the illnesses

associated with malabsorption or vitamin deficiencies from eating less

food than their bodies require. People post-op WLS are always put on

supplements which must be taken for the rest of their lives or they get

diseases like anemia or even scurvy, a disease formerly seen only in

sailors of yore who had been away for a long time at sea without access

to citrus fruits, beri-beri, from lack of thiamin, and kwashiorkor, a

protein deficiency disease usually only seen in the poorest of the poor

areas of the world. Then there's also the bouts of hypoglycemia - low

blood sugar - which occurs because of inadequate food intake or

malabsorption caused by dumping syndrome.

Anyone thinking of any kind of WLS is urged to read about the *other*

side of the story by visiting places like the group about WLS gone

bad:

OSSG-gone_wrong/

or seeing web sites & blogs by people who have had it done before, some

multiple times, like:

http://www.wworw.com/WLS%20Dark%20Side.htm

http://obesitysurgery-info.com/ and her blog

http://suethsayings.blogspot.com/

http://www.lowcarbfreedom.com/surgery_gastric_bypass_lap_band/index.html

(keep scrolling after the first post)

http://livingafterwls.blogspot.com/

When you ladies do go for your consultations, ask your surgeons about

the rates of complications, about what kind of food plan to follow

post-op and beyond, about supplements, about expected final weight loss,

about the percentage of his patients who reach - and stay at - their

goal weights after 5 years or more. Ask about surgical complications - A

lot of surgeons just pooh-pooh people when handing the consent form over

without telling the patient the *real* complications. They'll say things

like the lapband has less complications than other forms of WLS but

refuse to say *what* complications might really happen. For the

surgeons, they *expect* many of their patients to experience near

constant nausea and vomiting for months after surgery after even just a

few sips of water, so to them it's not a complication, but to the person

experiencing it, it's one of the worst feelings in the world and

certainly NOT what they expected.

If people knew about all the complications before hand they would think

not just twice but a third or fourth time before undergoing the knife.

It's not like going in for a dental cleaning - it's invasive surgery,

manipulation of your internal organs, playing God with your digestive

system. And it doesn't even come with any kind of guarantee that you'll

lose weight.

Sue in NJ

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Sue, I am just going for the informational session not a physician consult. I *honestly* don't think hubby will put out the money needed to comply with everything that the insurance company would want to have done. *BUT* It will give him an idea of what they want. Besides that If I have to do all the crap they want to comply I may not need the dang surgery! LOL... a __________________________________________________

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