RE: Re: Diabetes and eating

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I get no support at home, other than my brother screaming at the top of his lungs at me that I'm obese and no one will ever accept me as long as I am. I'm still determined to succeed. I have you guys and I have . memyselves2002 <memyselves@...> wrote: The ONLY way that you can make successful changes are if your family supports He has to play his role in this, too. . -Sapphyre Feel Free to Visit: www.geocities.com/asmallersapphyre www.livejournal.com/users/changescomin www.geocities.com/mothernatureschyld __________________________________________________

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I get no support at home, other than my brother screaming at the top of his lungs at me that I'm obese and no one will ever accept me as long as I am. I'm still determined to succeed. I have you guys and I have .We are always here. And we do accept you. Just because you are obese dosen't make you any less of a friend or person. Most of us don't get the support or at least the same kind of support at home that we can get here. I think people who have never been our size dosen't have a clue as to how hard this is to go though. All I can suggest is come here to vent. And keep on track and lose the weight. Show your brother it is you who is the better person. You can do this with or without his support!

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I really don't want to end up with a stroke that is for sure. I really need to wake up and smell reality.I know....reality stinks and sometimes isn't fair. But we just have to try and deal with what life hands us the best that we can:(> I have been meaning to ask....is he overweight also? He is about 10 pounds overweight now. Before we married he was at a normal weight. So I feel like it is my fault that he is gaining.10 pounds isn't bad but if he continues to eat the same he might be having weight issues too soon. And no, it isnt your fault. Each and every adult is responsible for what they put into their own mouths. Now if it was a kid then maybe you could say you didn't fix and serve them healthy meals. I mean a kid has to eat what is available to them. But in the end he is responsible for what he eats so don't lay a new guilt trip on yourself. Always think of yourself as a small child. Would you go and get a 5 year old a big mac? Order small.I hadn't thought of that before. That might just be a great idea. To try and think of myself as a small child and order that way. Thanks for the idea. I bet that will work better for me.I use this a lot. I remember I think it was Bonnie that said she watched her thin friends eating and habits and I got to thinking. Look at kids they are served the small meals and run and play all day long. Very few little kids are overweight. Small meals and exercise. Just what we need.Go to the Mcdonalds website and look at their nutritional values. Make you a list of foods that are under 500 calories and never order anything that isn't on your list. And add your totals for all your foods. If you had a sandwich that was lets say 450 calories well you know you cannot afford to grab another side with another 400 calories.That is a good idea. I think tomorrow (I'm tired tonight) I will do that and go to the website. Maybe I can keep that info in my purse at all times for when I am out. A lot of the restraunts have nutritional guides printed and available in a stand for you to pick up. I have also noticed Mcdonalds have begun to put the nutritional values on the wrappers of the food. Of course that don't do you much good as you have done made your order by the time you get your wrapper.But you will find there are many choices you can make and still eat at Mcdonalds and not totally blow your food calories. The small sandwiches with diet drinks are the key. Just don't look at their meals packages. Do you really want to lose weight? I mean sit down and ask yourself what is more important to you....your health and weight or being able to continue to eat those big macs when a regular burger taste just as good. Something to seriously think about!!!I kept saying to myself I was gonna get serious and lose weight. I never made it though the day. This went off and on for about a year. So really I never even really started a diet before. I was all talk. It was pretty bad to not even get though the day. And this went on like this day after day.Untill the end of January. Then it seemed as if I had several things open my eyes all in a short period of time. I think sometimes its like you said. You either have to be shocked or scared into getting serious or really hit the bottom of the barrel.It's easy to give us or slip up. You wouldn't be human if you didn't. But we have to recover quickly. One slip can ruin weeks of hard work and effort. We can do this together!Yes, it works best together. I am so glad I have you all for support. It sure does help to know that I am not alone.You arent alone. I love to hear how you are doing. I have had some of the same struggles you have had. You have lost weight so you know you can do it. Just don't give up. Don't let your hubbys choices influnece your choices. I know sometimes it is hard.Have you ever maybe set up a rule that you are only allowed to "eat out" once a week? The rest of your meals must be cooked at home? Sometimes that helps and helps to save on the food budget too. But really just try a few different ways to get started down a good road for yourself. Once you find something that seems to be giving you some good results then stick with it for awhile and maybe make a few fine tuning to it. What did you do before? Something was working for you.

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OK. WARNING! - this is going to be a very 'Tough Love' message - but only because that seems like what you're asking for. If you're not - then please pass this by! If anyone is upset by this message, my apologies - but the warning is up front!ewww. .....but that is the cold cruel facts of what can happen. My grandma had both her legs amputated and let me tell you seeing her pain is something that will make you sit and take thought. That women suffered so badly. Tough Love is a good thing. But as you said Tough Love.....noticed the last word. It was done with love.

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Yeah, well - just tell your brother that you may be fat - but he's mean! Is he still single? *snicker**giggle* Good One.SulaBlue

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But on a note....there is nothing wrong with going to Mcdonalds. What is wrong is what you chose. Just order a chicken sandwich and a diet coke or even a cheeseburger and a diet coke. Both are acceptable to someone on a diet.,There is very, very, very little redeeming about Mc's for someone on a diet - and even less so for someone who is diabetic and on a diet.Well I was talking more or less for someone dieting. I don't have diabetes so I don't know all thats involved for it. I do know a little as both my mother-in-law and both grandmothers had it. We took care of my mother-in-law for a short period before she went to the nursing home. But I didn't get into the learning stages very far. I know a bit about the basics. And how to give the shots. What I more or less am talking about is just on eating out and dieting. My opinion and my opinion only is I am wanting my diet to be a no foods are off limit. I want to learn how to eat in this world and not gain back the weight. And since there are Mcdonalds, Taco Bells, s, Arbys and a ton of other Restraunts on every corner in the city I believe its unrealistic to think I will never eat there again. I want to be able to take my grandkids there and let them play on the playground and enjoy my time with them. And I do truly believe you can eat at almost any restraunt and still remain safe and secure on your diet. I think you have to have a great deal of will power and learn what choices to make. I try and limit my lunch and dinner at around 500-600 calories each. And I have yet to find any restraunt where I can't take their menu, examine the nutritional values and come up with a meal I can enjoy. It's true...I have been known to slip and buy a complete meal from the Mcdonald menu too. And like , I immedialty regretted it "after" I ate it. But I must say I am getting better and find myself now ordering the small sandwiches that fit in my food plan on auto pilot now. I think it just takes time and will power to get it programmmed into your head to don't order your favorites but order small. And there are times when I just know I am gonna way overeat. For example....The time we went to the golden corel to celebrate. I knew that was gonna be my weak spot. I knew I was not going to eat the good foods. I knew I was going to gain. But I also knew I could not do that on a regular basis. I knew I was going to go a week in advance. I knew I had to start cutting my calories in advance to plan for it and I knew I was going to have to kick up my exercise plans a notch.And since I was able to plan for that event I came out ok on it. But I understand a lot of the time eating out is a unplanned on event. We was out shopping last week and we was going from when the stores open untill the stores closed. The grandkids was starving and we was too so there is no way we was gonna wait to come home to eat. Once again there was those golden arches every where we went. We went in the kids got their usuals. They get their chicken nugget meal, and my daughter usually gets the meal where you get 2 cheeseburgers, fries and drink. And I usually either get a cheeseburger or a chicken sandwich and diet coke. I won't lie...every now and then I will get the .99 fries. I think they are a medium. But that's not every time but a occassional thing. And then I throw in a bunch more exercise then usual for 2 days. I know there are better places to go to beside Mcdonalds too but hey, I like Mc s so why not. But all in all most days I leave with a good meal in my stomache and still within my daily food calorie budget. At taco bells the only thing I ever buy is the 1/2 pound bean and rice burritos I think is what it is called. Not that they don't have other stuff on the menu that would work but I love those and they really fill me up.

Also we are always doing the restaraunt hop when we are heading home.. The kids like wendys, son-in-law loves KFC. Daughter likes Rallys. I love Arbys. etc....So we just hit the drive thoughs and get our orders then go home and eat together with everyone having what they want and not what someone else wanted.

I just know this works for me. I aslo know if it is too much of a temptation for some people then thats ok too, then they should avoid these places like the plague. I think each and every person is different and as we have all said before, every one has to find out what works for them and then run with it. For me so far counting calories, and exercising more has been great but the biggest thing for me I thing has been the no foods off limit but strict portion control.I'm not pouring the weight from me so some days I get totally disgusted and fed up I would love to see a 2lb a week loss but I know as long as I am seeing the 1 lb a week that I am doing ok. I just keep reminding myself this is going to be a life long process so I don't need to make drastic changes that I can't live with.

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After watching "Supersize Me", though, I will NEVER eat theirfries again (and my children don't get them, either). *shudders* That's not right.Is there something I should know. LOL I have never seen supersize me. Don't guess I have even heard of it.

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He's living with a woman, she's desperate or she wouldn't put up with him, he talks to her like she's a dog, telling her all the time how stupid she is, etc. My brother has severe mental problems. I stopped having anything to do with him, but Mother won't break the ties so on the few times he shows up here he does nothing but curse me and curse her. Once she passes he's out of my life for good, I don't need that kind of crap in my life. SulaBlue <sulablue2001@...> wrote: Yeah, well - just tell your brother that you may be fat - but he's mean! Is he still single? :)SulaBlue>> I get no support at home, other than my brother screaming at the top of his lungs at me that I'm obese and no one will ever accept me as long as I am. I'm still determined to succeed. I have you guys and I have . -Sapphyre Feel Free to Visit: www.geocities.com/asmallersapphyre www.livejournal.com/users/changescomin www.geocities.com/mothernatureschyld __________________________________________________

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You could also think about ordering a kid's Happy Meal. That way you get the taste you want, but are limited in how much of it you eat. Some may hassle you about selling you a kids meal if you don't have a kid with you, but you can remind them that you CAN go and spend your money someplace else that will SERVE you what you are willing to pay for.Another thing that my husband & I do is to get the meal that has two cheeseburgers, etc. We each get a cheeseburger & we share the fries & drink. Again, automatic portion control.memyselves2002 <memyselves@...> wrote: I think I could eat at Mcs if I ate the salads. I don't think it would be fair to my husband to say we can never eat there again. Dacia <>< He lives, all glory to his name! He lives, my savior, still the same;What joy this blest assurance gives: I know that my Redeemer lives!

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You can also talk to your pharmacist. They might know of other resources available. SulaBlue <sulablue2001@...> wrote: If he balks - argue. Stand up for yourself. YOU pay HIM. YOU hired HIM. YOU are the captain of your health care team and, ultimately, the one responsible for ensuring that you have the tip-top health care you can possibly get. Truthfully though I've never heard of a doctor not willing to prescribe more test strips, and very few insurance companies put tight limits on them (Some even give them to you free under certain plans, or

list them as tier-one generics) simply because it costs less for them to provide you with strips NOW than it does to pay for 3x a week dialysis later in life. Dacia <>< He lives, all glory to his name! He lives, my savior, still the same;What joy this blest assurance gives: I know that my Redeemer lives!

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But the pharmacist may know of programs with the different companies that offer the test strips at a lower cost for low income diabetics. Also, you may want to try contacting the various manufacturers of the glucouse meters. They may have programs available to help. It can't hurt to ask.SulaBlue <sulablue2001@...> wrote: The test strips can be bought without a prescription, but they're far more expensive that way.SulaBlue Dacia <>< He lives, all glory to his name! He lives, my savior, still the same;What joy this blest assurance gives: I know that my Redeemer lives!

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SulaBlue <sulablue2001@...> wrote: ->>Actually, Bonnie, I'd be more inclined to agree with the doctor. Diabetes "clinics" are usually about 20 years behind the times. , he told you not to pay attention to them - but I don't remember what he DID tell you to eat?'s doc told her to eat only 600 calories, which is why many of us told her to 1) Call the office back and make sure she heard right and 2) if he really did say only 600 calories (He wanted her to lose faster than she already was) to just continue to follow what the nutritionist at the clinic told her to.When she did that her sugars were perfect and she was losing at a pretty steady pace without hunger.In our city, the diabetes programs, both at the hospital and run by private nurse

practictioners, are more up to date than the private doctors, the opposite of what you found, Sula.Sue in NJ

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From: SulaBlue

> I decided that the message could be beneficial to more than just an

> explaination to Bonnie on my hard stance against

Mc's, fast food joints, and higher-carb meals in general.

Your diabetes messages are very helpful to me. I've learned a lot. Of

course bought 6 two liter bottles of sugar soda yesterday so I don't

know why the heck I'm trying to learn stuff since he doesn't care. Men!

Ann

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As far as potion control, my husband and I do this no matter where we eat out. We take turns, one orders an appetizer and the other orders the main meal, the next time we eat out we reverse who orders what. We always tell the wait staff that we are splitting the meal. Some times they may charge an extra $1.50 for the split meal, but it is a whole lot cheaper than purchasing two full meals. Since my husband doesn't need to watch what he eats really, he still knows that I have to and has never yet ordered something I won't or can't eat. I don't have diabetes, yet and hoping I don't so I can only imagine how hard it is for those who do when eating out.

From: 100-plus [mailto:100-plus ] On Behalf Of memyselves2002Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:37 PM100-plus Subject: Re: Diabetes and eating

> Another thing that my husband & I do is to get the meal that has two cheeseburgers, etc. We each get a cheeseburger & we share the fries & drink. Again, automatic portion control.> >

Dacia,

That is a good idea. I don't know though if I will be able to get my husband to just eat a cheeseburger and share the fries though. Not only would that be good for portion control, but it would also be better for that old wallet of mine. I am going to ask him about that and see what he says. He has gone to play golf right now. So I will have to talk to him when gets back.

from MO.

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As far as potion control, my husband and I do this no matter where we eat out. We take turns, one orders an appetizer and the other orders the main meal, the next time we eat out we reverse who orders what. I think this is such a great idea! We always tell the wait staff that we are splitting the meal. Some times they may charge an extra $1.50 for the split meal, but it is a whole lot cheaper than purchasing two full meals.I have never heard of a place charging you extra to split a meal. It must be at like a fancier place.LOL I'm almost strickly a fast food joint kind of gal. Since my husband doesn't need to watch what he eats really, he still knows that I have to and has never yet ordered something I won't or can't eat.Hang onto him girl. He might just be a keeper:) I don't have diabetes, yet and hoping I don't so I can only imagine how hard it is for those who do when eating out.

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Hang onto him girl. He might just be a keeper:) After 21 years I think he sure is!

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had his follow up yesterday with the doc. He's not officially diabetic yet but he will be if he doesn't change his evil ways. Hopefully he heard what the doc said and will eat healthier and take better care of himself.

Thanks for all the info Sula Blue. You've been a big help.

Ann