Re: I'm doing a jump start too!

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I'm still trying to catch up on all the e-mail I missed when on vacation

last week, but I hope you *did* get that jump-start you were aiming for.

>Now although I started at 260 this is a loss of which I am so thankful for.

But here is my yo-yo.

Jan 27,06 = 260

Feb 28, 06 = 258.2

Oh, I know that feeling all too well!

January 3 - 285.5

January 18 - 280

February 1 - 281.5

February 6 - 279

February 14 - 282

March 1 - 281.5

March 14 - 283

April 1 - 280.5

April 13 - 283.5

April 20 - 282.5

April 24 (today) - 278

>So as you can see I have regressed almost all the way back to March 18th.

I keep bouncing those same 5 - 10 pounds back and forth for the last few

*years*!

>Usually just getting 4 glasses of water.

I was good last week, making sure I got at least 8 cups of water in each day

after we were in for the day. It meant waking up about 4 times overnight to

pee, but I did it. All this without taking my water pill, too. I was

certainly NOT going to take that and sit on a train for an hour.

>And almost continuly going over my calorie limit.

Last week I tried an experiment - I ate only half of what I usually eat,

staying hungry between meals no matter how painful it was or how loud my

tummy rumbled (I was on the NYC subways a lot, so luckily not too many

people heard it). I had no snacks, either between meals or in the evenings.

I kept my daily calories between 800 and 1200 (as per Rice Diet guidelines)

and got *loads* of exercise, walking almost 20 miles for the week and having

the blisters, bloody toes, and a black nail to prove it. As you see, I only

lost weight between Thursday and today, and I attribute *that* loss to the

water pill I took yesterday for the first time in over a week more than all

that exercise and low calories. So frustrating!

> so if you all hear a small whimpering somewhere that sounds far away but

can't figure it out. It will be me crying like a baby for letting myself go

again.

Don't worry - I won't be able to hear it over my own sobs.

Sue in NJ

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,I'm still trying to catch up on all the e-mail I missed when on vacationlast week, but I hope you *did* get that jump-start you were aiming for.Well i don't really know. I havent stepped back on the scales yet. But I can tell you I AM getting more exercise! >Now although I started at 260 this is a loss of which I am so thankful for.But here is my yo-yo.Jan 27,06 = 260Feb 28, 06 = 258.2Oh, I know that feeling all too well!January 3 - 285.5January 18 - 280February 1 - 281.5February 6 - 279February 14 - 282March 1 - 281.5March 14 - 283April 1 - 280.5April 13 - 283.5April 20 - 282.5April 24 (today) - 278Yep, Looks just like my yo-yo:) >So as you can see I have regressed almost all the way back to March 18th.I keep bouncing those same 5 - 10 pounds back and forth for the last few*years*!OWWW! I was hoping you was gonna say weeks or months! >Usually just getting 4 glasses of water.I was good last week, making sure I got at least 8 cups of water in each dayafter we were in for the day. It meant waking up about 4 times overnight topee, but I did it. All this without taking my water pill, too. I wascertainly NOT going to take that and sit on a train for an hour.Some Days I can get in that water and some days I can't.The bad thing is I have cut out almost all liquids except water. I no longer drink tea or kool-aid hardly ever and have replaced it with water at my meals.I just don't drink a lot to begin with. But I'm still working on it. I figure come summer I'll easily get all my water in as when it is hot weather I can chug a lug it:)>And almost continuly going over my calorie limit.Last week I tried an experiment - I ate only half of what I usually eat,staying hungry between meals no matter how painful it was or how loud mytummy rumbled (I was on the NYC subways a lot, so luckily not too manypeople heard it). I had no snacks, either between meals or in the evenings.I seldom ever get snacks between meals. Every now and then but not very often we will have icecream around 7 in the evenings.But this is only when we find ice cream on a very good sale or around a birthday. So it isnt even a monthly thing.I kept my daily calories between 800 and 1200 (as per Rice Diet guidelines)I think I would literally starve to death on a 800 calorie diet. I find a 1500 hard enough and frequently find myself at 1800.and got *loads* of exercise, walking almost 20 miles for the week and havingthe blisters, bloody toes, and a black nail to prove it. As you see, I onlylost weight between Thursday and today, and I attribute *that* loss to thewater pill I took yesterday for the first time in over a week more than allthat exercise and low calories. So frustrating!Isn't it strange the way our bodies work so differntly? Some people would be losing like crazy doing that.I know I was so excited when I first started to lose and then I hit that point where I just stopped. Then up 2 down 2. Just seemed like I couldn't get over that small little hump. I havent even bothered to get back on the scales yet.> so if you all hear a small whimpering somewhere that sounds far away butcan't figure it out. It will be me crying like a baby for letting myself goagain.Don't worry - I won't be able to hear it over my own sobs.*here's you a tissue* I'm still worried as to whether I will see any weight loss when I do weigh but I do feel better about myself as of right now becasue I feel as if I have gotten more exercise recently. I hope those scales are nice to me and will reflect that:)Sue in NJ

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>>I keep bouncing those same 5 - 10 pounds back and forth for the last few

*years*!

>OWWW! I was hoping you was gonna say weeks or months!

Well, in my case, I keep injuring myself, putting a stop to exercise for a

while. Whenever there's no exercise, there's a few pounds back on, but as

soon as I start up gain, they come off. I'm also in the throes of

peri-menopause, and unless I want to do at least 60 minutes of aerobics each

and every day, this flab is gonna take a long time to go bye bye. Hopefully

once I'm officially *in* menopause (1 year with no period) the fat will melt

off a bit better.

>The bad thing is I have cut out almost all liquids except water. I no

longer drink tea or kool-aid hardly ever and have replaced it with water at

my meals.

Aside form a cup of decaf coffee or Caffix in the morning and herbal or

decaf green tea in the afternoon, water is all I drink, too. I stopped

drinking diet soda when they took Tab off the market then started putting

aspartame in all the diet drinks. That stuff makes me dizzy and foggy

headed. Some sodas have splenda, but I find they're way too sweet.

Oh, I just remembered my 4 ounces of OJ every morning, so I do drink

something cold other than water. I hate oranges but will drink a bit of its

juice.

>Every now and then but not very often we will have icecream

I can't even remember the last time we had ice cream in our house, but I do

remember the last time any of us ate it - it was March 2000 when we were

still living in FL, my son wanted one last visit to the soft serve place the

night before we moved back. He hasn't wanted ice cream since.

>>I kept my daily calories between 800 and 1200 (as per Rice Diet

guidelines)

>I think I would literally starve to death on a 800 calorie diet.

Me, too, which is why it was an experiment. Now it's over and I can eat my

regular 1400 again. I know I'll probably regain those 4 pounds, because I'm

sure that one week on very low cal slowed my metabolism already (I have a

very efficient metabolism, unfortunately), but this week's plans include

increasing my exercise a bit to include not just cardio but yoga/stretching,

tai chi, and weights, as well as getting outside and walking again as soon

as my toe heals. The podiatrist is on vacation so I'm on my own with this

until my regular appointment in early May.

>Some people would be losing like crazy doing that.

I get so jealous of some of the women on the Rice Diet forum, losing 20

pounds in one week, many losing 5 pounds in one *day*, then I see that prior

to starting on the program they ate something like 8000 or more calories a

day, drank a 6-pack of Pepsi daily, and never exercised, but now they're

only eating 800 calories, dropped all soda, and are exerising an hour or

more a day. Oh, and they're in their 20's or early 30's and never dieted

before in their lives, haivng always been thin until this recent bit of

weight gain after they had ___ (fill in the blank - baby, accident, illness,

medication, etc.) that caused them to gain 10 - 30 pounds the past year.

I've yet to see a post from anyone who 1) was fat since childhood 2) has

*been* fat at least 30 years 3) has tried every other diet out there and

never lost on any of them. If someone said they tried other diets, usually

they also lost on every one but regained their weight. Heck, even the author

of the first Rice Diet book, Judy Moskovitz, who lost over 200 pounds when

she stayed at the Rice House, regaiined all her weight back - twice!

>I know I was so excited when I first started to lose and then I hit that

point where I just stopped. Then up 2 down 2.

That happened to me back in 2001, when I lost 45 then stalled. Since then I

regained back 25 of it. Hey, it's better than all of it, right?

> I havent even bothered to get back on the scales yet.

I was on this morning, and with any luck I'll be able to restrain myself

from getting on it again until next Monday. I do tend to get too obsessive

compulsive over the numbers at times.

>>Don't worry - I won't be able to hear it over my own sobs.

>*here's you a tissue*

(sniffle) Thanks. Puffs Plus, my favorite!

>I'm still worried as to whether I will see any weight loss when I do weigh

but I do feel better about myself as of right now becasue I feel as if I

have gotten more exercise recently.

I've been saying this for a while on one of my other lists, the one for the

food plan. I *do* feel better when I stay away from dairy - my sinuses and

arthritis don't bother me as much, and I'm even making it through this

allergy season on the same half box of tissues I started with, even with

being outdoors most of last week. And the exercise is essential. I have to

climb up 3 flights of stairs all day long, and even someone in the best of

shape (My landlord) gets winded making the trip. With regular exercise, the

climb isn't too bad. And the weight training helps me carry the laundry bags

and groceries up those steps. And the stretching, tai chi, and yoga, plus

daily meditation sessions, keep my stress levels down to a fairly normal

level so my blood pressure stays low enough to keep me off BP meds. I still

take my water pill a few times a week, but it's no longer needed daily and I

don't need the stronger meds the doc had me on in the past.

Sure, I would *love* to lose weight, but if it doesn't happen, I'm not gonna

get too upset over it. A little? Sure. Frustrated? Plenty, but not

earth-shatteringly so.

Sue in NJ

who is hiding from housework

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From: " Sue in NJ " <susang@...>

> daily meditation sessions,

I read that as daily medication sessions. What do you self medicate

with Sue? Brown rice ale?

Ann

who could really use a margarita right now

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oh Sue that's an awful lot of trying to get nowhere.But do you feel any better (besides the owies etc)?Sue in NJ <susang@...> wrote: Last week I tried an experiment - I ate only half of what I usually eat,staying hungry between meals no matter how painful it was or how loud mytummy rumbled (I was on the NYC subways a lot, so luckily not too manypeople heard it). I had no snacks, either between meals or in the evenings.I kept my daily calories between 800 and 1200 (as per Rice Diet guidelines)and got *loads* of exercise, walking almost 20 miles for the week and havingthe blisters, bloody toes, and a black nail to prove it. As you see, I onlylost weight between Thursday and today, and I attribute *that* loss to thewater pill I took yesterday for the first time in over a week more than allthat exercise

and low calories. So frustrating!> so if you all hear a small whimpering somewhere that sounds far away butcan't figure it out. It will be me crying like a baby for letting myself goagain.Don't worry - I won't be able to hear it over my own sobs.Sue in NJLive, Love, Laugh

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Re: I'm doing a jump start too!

Aside form a cup of decaf coffee or Caffix in the morning and herbal ordecaf green tea in the afternoon, water is all I drink, too. I stoppeddrinking diet soda when they took Tab off the market then started puttingaspartame in all the diet drinks. That stuff makes me dizzy and foggyheaded. Some sodas have splenda, but I find they're way too sweet.I had a diet coke awhile back and it was so sickening sweet i couldn't drink it. Now I have no problem with Diet Dr. Pepper or even Diet Pepsi but the coke I just could not stomache. My mom always have the Diet Dr. Peppers when we eat at her house and I really can't tell a difference in them and regular Dr. Pepper. And Pepsi would be my next best drink in the soda line. I used to years ago get diet rite but havent had one of those in years. Don't even know if they still market them.But to just be honest I'd rather have a good glass of ice tea. However I've been just about on pure water lately.Oh, I just remembered my 4 ounces of OJ every morning, so I do drinksomething cold other than water. I hate oranges but will drink a bit of itsjuice.I tell you it was hard as the dickens to wean myself off my glass of hot chocolate every morning. I just kept cutting it until I finally done away with having it all together but boy oh boy that was hard. I'm sure I'll go back to having a cup...not a glass occassionly come next winter again but that gives me all summer without the extra calories:)>Every now and then but not very often we will have icecreamI can't even remember the last time we had ice cream in our house, but I doremember the last time any of us ate it - it was March 2000 when we werestill living in FL, my son wanted one last visit to the soft serve place thenight before we moved back. He hasn't wanted ice cream since.Now, thats a long time! I just had a small bowl tonight. Really in our house the two sweets/junk foods that tempt me is ice cream and chips. Ice cream isnt a big threat cause we just dont buy it often so I can enjoy it with a clear consious. Those chips though.....I have to watch them. As far as any other sweets, I'm just not too big on them.>I think I would literally starve to death on a 800 calorie diet.Me, too, which is why it was an experiment. Now it's over and I can eat myregular 1400 again. I know I'll probably regain those 4 pounds, because I'msure that one week on very low cal slowed my metabolism already (I have avery efficient metabolism, unfortunately),just how long does it take for a persons metabolism to adjust itself? but this week's plans includeincreasing my exercise a bit to include not just cardio but yoga/stretching,tai chi, and weights, as well as getting outside and walking again as soonas my toe heals. The podiatrist is on vacation so I'm on my own with thisuntil my regular appointment in early May. >I know I was so excited when I first started to lose and then I hit thatpoint where I just stopped. Then up 2 down 2.That happened to me back in 2001, when I lost 45 then stalled. Since then Iregained back 25 of it. Hey, it's better than all of it, right? :)Oh don't get me wrong. I might mope, complain and fret over not losing more or faster but I am thankful for every single pound that goes off and stays off. If I end a month with less pounds then I started it with I'm thrilled.> I havent even bothered to get back on the scales yet.I was on this morning, and with any luck I'll be able to restrain myselffrom getting on it again until next Monday. I do tend to get too obsessivecompulsive over the numbers at times.Oh I usually love getting on the scales. They give me a sense of where i'm going. I have always looked forward to weighing since I started to try and lose weight. But since I have hit this yo-yo stage I decided maybe I shouldnt look for a bit so I wont get discouraged.>>Don't worry - I won't be able to hear it over my own sobs.>*here's you a tissue*(sniffle) Thanks. Puffs Plus, my favorite!Only the best for my pal:). I'll sit the box over thar*puts box in corner* I hope you wont need any more.Sure, I would *love* to lose weight, but if it doesn't happen, I'm not gonnaget too upset over it. A little? Sure. Frustrated? Plenty, but notearth-shatteringly so.Shoot...I aint got to that stage yet. I wouldnt say I get earth-shattering upset but I do get pretty dawg gone frustrated!

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> I read that as daily medication sessions. What do you self

medicate

> with Sue?

Psst. I can get you a hit on some gooood steroid nasal spray. Not the

generic stuff, but the high power hitter. It's from my own private stash,

man!

Sue in NJ

You can get my sprays when you can pry them from my cold, dead hands! LOL

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> oh Sue that's an awful lot of trying to get nowhere.

Well, I wonder if it was a delayed reaction, because when I got on the scale

again this morning (Yeah, I know I said I was not getting back on until next

Monday) I was down another 2 pounds, and that was with my normal breakfast,

a small lunch, my usual Monday dinner of 3 slices of homemade pizza (all

low-fat toppings on ww crust with vegan cheese), and even with a few Social

Tea cookies while watching tv. I had to stop after 2 as they were *way*

sweeter than I remembered them being. I think next time I splurge it'll be

back to my tried and true Chewy Chip Ahoys.

>But do you feel any better (besides the owies etc)?

A bit more tired from lack of calories, and I'm pretty positive that because

I'm not eating a little something every 2-3 hours my hypoglycemia is going

to act up any day now. I'm going to treat last week like 's BlastOff

week and be grateful for the few pounds drop I did get.

I know that the calories were way too low to continue on long-term, even

though the Rice Diet books both say people have stayed on the diet (in the

800 - 1000 cal/day range) for months, even years, until the weight is lost,

but that's also while under daily medical supervision. The first book claims

it *can* be done at home, but warns that a person *must* see their doctor at

the beginning then every few weeks afterwards to have lab work done. On the

days you feel dizzy (and this seems to happen often) they recommend a slice

of regular bread to help boost your sodium levels. Excuse me, Rice Diet

folks, but a food plan that requires constant medical supervision and

micro-managing what foods to eat based on current lab work doesn't seem too

healthy to me.

Gee, I wish I could survive on 1200 calories long term! That's the amount I

learned

decades ago that *I* need to drop down to if I want to lose weight, yet, as

you know, that's really not that much food at all and too low for optimal

health for a person my size. But for now, I'll stick the laminated copy of

the 2000 calories Foodmover card back up on my kitchen cabinet and follow

that again for a while. I probably own't lose any more, eating that much,

but at least I won't be doing my body any harm, starving it.

Sue in NJ

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>But to just be honest I'd rather have a good glass of ice tea.

Now you sound just like Ann. I remember her saying that's what she

drinks all the time down in steamy Texas.

However I've been just about on pure water lately.

>I tell you it was hard as the dickens to wean myself off my glass of hot

chocolate every morning.

During those icy cold winter days I treated myself to a container of

chocolate Silk soymilk, and every afternoon I poured a half a mug full,

nuked it until it was so hot it burnt my tongue, and slowly sipped, making

it last about a half hour. Oh, that stuff was so good! By the time that

half-gallon container was empty, I was over my hot chocolate phase.

>come next winter again but that gives me all summer without the extra

calories:)

I used to buy the Swiss Miss, I forget if it was low-sugar or sugar-free,

and it was pretty good, but with my body's reaction to dairy lately I didn't

buy any this year. I wish they made packaged versions of hot chocolate with

powdered soy or rice milk as well as dairy. There are loads of little kids

with milk allergies out there who would appreciate it.

>>He hasn't wanted ice cream since.

>Now, thats a long time!

He was never really a sweets eater, even as a little kid. In all his 22

years he's had a birthday cake twice - his godmother made a Cookie Monster

cake for his first birthday, and his friends at school bought one in their

second year of college. Even when he's on a cookie kick, he'll eat 2 or 3

from a bag then declare he's had enough, that his dad can finish the bag.

He's the same way with candy - a few bites and he tosses the rest in the

garbage. Yeah, I keep asking if he's really *my* kid. LOL

>just how long does it take for a persons metabolism to adjust itself?

Depends on the person and his/her diet history. For someone who's been off

and on diets their entire life, just a couple of days on restricted caloreis

can send the body into starvation mode, as it knows all too well what's

happening. Someone who has never dieted in their lives, or very

infrequently, can go for a few weeks, maybe even months, before their

metabolism slows down in reaction to restricted caloric intake. Hormones

play a big part, too. Men take a long time to slow down, thanks to all their

muscle mass and testosterone, but women store estrogen in their fat, so the

body is very reluctant to give it up, especially if the woman is approaching

menopause and needs all the estrogen she can get, so her body will go into a

slower metabolic rate sooner. Many other factors play a role, too.

> If I end a month with less pounds then I started it with I'm thrilled.

Yeah, but for me those events are few and far between, as the saying goes.

>>(sniffle) Thanks. Puffs Plus, my favorite!

>Only the best for my pal:). I'll sit the box over thar*puts box in corner*

I hope you wont need any more.

Only for my allergies, thanks. Yesterday I was too buys to mope for long.

Today, they plan on digging up the street in the ever-going rehab of the

apartment house across the street from me (this has been going on 2 years

this week, and the end isn't even in sight!) so I'm stuck indoors, as

they're not only going to take up 12 parking spaces but will close the

street once the work starts. I found the exercise books I was looking for

yesterday (weight training and a different tai chi workout) so I'll get in a

1-mile Sansone video this morning, then do the workouts in these 2

books, and then I still have a load of housework to get caught up on. We

never did get Spring Cleaning done this year, as we had winter weather up

until last week, then it returned again over the weekend. I did want to

finally get windows washed, but not with the street being dug up and more

rain later today.

And I still have 4 pairs of pants I've been meaning to cut out and sew since

this time last year.

>I wouldnt say I get earth-shattering upset but I do get pretty dawg gone

frustrated!

All we an do is hang in there and keep at it. Eventually our bodies will get

with the program and shed the excess weight. All we can do in the meantime

is keep it well fed and watered and take it out for a walk now and then.

Sue in NJ

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> Psst. I can get you a hit on some gooood steroid nasal spray. Not the

> generic stuff, but the high power hitter. It's from my own private stash,

> man!

Blech. When I had the penicillin reaction I was sent home from the hospital

with a steroid scrip and it made my head come off and float around the room.

Not a pleasant feeling.

Ann

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> Well, I wonder if it was a delayed reaction, because when I got on the

> scale again this morning (Yeah, I know I said I was not getting back on

> until next Monday) I was down another 2 pounds,

If any of us tried a program for one week and then gave up because we only

lost 5.5 pounds you would shoot us! Come on woman, you can keep up the

bloody toe starvation diet for at least a month can't you.

Why not just stick with 1200 calories since you know you can lose on that?

Piece of cake. Argh! I have to give up that saying. Seriously though, how

long do you think you could stick with 1200 calories per day?

Me? *Maybe* a few weeks if I was in my super motivated mode. In normal

mode it would be 1/2 a day before hunger sent me rummaging in the fridge.

Of course I couldn't even stick with 2000 calories a day for the long term.

Sigh. At least hunger isn't a problem for now although everyone says it

catches up to you eventually after surgery.

I'm waiting around for the cable guy to install digital phone service. I'm

actually motivated to vacuum but I'm afraid to since I might not hear the

doorbell. No excuse not to pick up stuff though. I'm highly motivated

to get this house under control. It's so embarrassing being such a horrid

housekeeper. It's just like losing weight. I keep saying I'm going to

change my ways but I never do.

Ann

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>But to just be honest I'd rather have a good glass of ice tea.Now you sound just like Ann. I remember her saying that's what shedrinks all the time down in steamy Texas.I have been drinking tea daily for about 28 years now. Or at least until Jan 27 when I started this weight loss thing. Now I'm lucky to drink a glass a week. I keep saying im gonna get some artifical sugar stuff so I can have it again. I have never used that though before. What is the best stuff.? I have seen several different kinds. Sweet and low and geez I cant even remember the name of the others.Although I would think I could drink it sweetened with Sugar because we only use a cup of sugar to a gallon of tea but every single calorie saved will help.And I just cant take unsweetened tea. >I tell you it was hard as the dickens to wean myself off my glass of hotchocolate every morning.During those icy cold winter days I treated myself to a container ofchocolate Silk soymilk, and every afternoon I poured a half a mug full,nuked it until it was so hot it burnt my tongue, and slowly sipped, makingit last about a half hour. Oh, that stuff was so good! By the time thathalf-gallon container was empty, I was over my hot chocolate phase.I have never even given soymilfk and stuff like that a second glance in the stores. I know they have reduced calorie hot chocolate that I have bought a time or two. I love having a hot glass when it is so cold and snowy outside. Just sitting and holding it in my hand makes me warm and toasty. I tried before winter was over to make me some hot tea or lemonade to try and fool myself. Nope, dosent work!>come next winter again but that gives me all summer without the extracalories:)I used to buy the Swiss Miss, I forget if it was low-sugar or sugar-free,and it was pretty good, but with my body's reaction to dairy lately I didn'tbuy any this year. I wish they made packaged versions of hot chocolate withpowdered soy or rice milk as well as dairy. There are loads of little kidswith milk allergies out there who would appreciate it.You would think so. There may be something out there. Like I said I have never given anything but"regular" foods a second glance before I started trying to lose weight. What burns my butt is how all the low calorie and special foods are so much more expensive.And I still have 4 pairs of pants I've been meaning to cut out and sew sincethis time last year.I envy you. I couldn't even start to sew my own clothes. I used to wish I could make my daughter her own dresses when she was little but I gave up that dream. Lets face it I can do a hem by struggling and maybe patch a little spot here and there, sew on buttons and thats about it.>I wouldnt say I get earth-shattering upset but I do get pretty dawg gonefrustrated!All we an do is hang in there and keep at it. Eventually our bodies will getwith the program and shed the excess weight. All we can do in the meantimeis keep it well fed and watered and take it out for a walk now and then. :)Yeah but I dream of the day I could pat it on the head and say good body, Yes you're a good body:) Ok.....so that was bad. LOLSue in NJ

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Are you a tea drinker? There are some really good teas out there these days. I really like the English Toffee from Celestial Seasonings. Experiment with differetn flavors & tastes. You may find one that fills that need for a warm feeling in the tummy. <sandra.mygroup@...> wrote: I know they have reduced calorie hot chocolate that I have bought a time or two. I love having a hot glass when it is so cold and snowy outside. Just sitting and holding it in my hand makes me warm and toasty. I tried before winter was over to make me some hot tea or lemonade to try and fool myself. Nope, dosent work! Dacia <>< He lives, all glory to his name! He lives, my savior, still the same;What joy this blest assurance gives: I know that my Redeemer lives!

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Re: I'm doing a jump start too!

Are you a tea drinker? There are some really good teas out there these days. I really like the English Toffee from Celestial Seasonings. Experiment with differetn flavors & tastes. You may find one that fills that need for a warm feeling in the tummy.Oh yeah, I have drank tea 3 meals a day and between meals for around 28 years. Every now and then I'd have a glass of Lemonade koolaid but tea has always been the drink for me. But the funny thing is I have always drunk regular tea. I have never really experimented with the flavored teas. I tried a different flavor twice I think in all these years and didnt like them. I don't even remember what flavors they was.My hubby likes hot tea but I myself like ice tea. I may give some of the other flavors a try. It has been a long time since I did try those and my tastes has changed over the years, I might like some of them now.And coffee? No way. Have never liked the stuff. When there's coffee, I'd be the one asked"Do you want some coffee to go with your sugar and creme? I have discovered recently I can eat some of the flavored oatmeals. I just to be a strict plain oatmeal girl. And I tried a few different flavors about 4 months ago and actually liked them. <sandra.mygroup@...> wrote:

I know they have reduced calorie hot chocolate that I have bought a time or two. I love having a hot glass when it is so cold and snowy outside. Just sitting and holding it in my hand makes me warm and toasty. I tried before winter was over to make me some hot tea or lemonade to try and fool myself. Nope, dosent work!

Dacia

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I've used some of the different flavored teas to make iced tea. I have an ice tea maker that I use a lot. I really like the mint teas to make iced tea with. Very refreshing during the hot summer months. The lemon-flavored ones are good too. My husband until we lived in Ghana for almost a year. He developed a taste for Earl Gray tea. That is the only tea he will drink now. <sandra.mygroup@...> wrote: My hubby likes hot tea but I myself like ice tea. I may give some of the other flavors a try. It has been a long time since I did try those and my tastes has changed over the years, I might like some of them now. Dacia <>< He lives, all glory to his name! He lives, my savior, still the same;What joy this blest assurance gives: I know that my Redeemer lives!

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From: Dacia

> I've used some of the different flavored teas to make iced tea. I have an

> ice tea maker that I use a lot. I really like the mint teas

I'll have to get out my iced tea maker. I haven't used it in a while. I

like Luzianne decaf iced tea. I really like hibiscus mint tea too. I use

the Celestial Seasonings Red Zinger along with spearmint and peppermint.

Yum! Thanks for the reminder. I haven't made that in a long time. I'll

have to pick up the Red Zinger and mint tea bags next time I'm at the store.

Very refreshing.

It's hot in Houston already. Blech. The neighborhood pool is already open

on the weekends. My 9 year old is dying to go so I'll take her this

weekend. The water will probably still be too cold for me though. Dh and

my 6 year old are going camping so it will be a nice, quiet weekend with no

sibling rivalry.

Ann

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My husband has a week of traveling. He has been at a pastors conference in Las Vegas since Sunday. He says it is kind of an interesting place for a pastors conference! On Wednesday he will fly from Vegas to Houston, meet with another pastor and then drive to Austin. On Saturday he comes back to Wisconsin. When I talk to him later this evening I will have to warn him it is hot in Houston. Our temps today in Wisconsin we in the high 40's. Ann and <maryannanderic@...> wrote:It's hot in Houston already. Blech. The neighborhood pool is already open on the weekends. Dacia <>< He lives, all glory to his name! He lives, my savior, still the same;What joy this blest assurance gives: I know that my Redeemer lives!

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> If any of us tried a program for one week and then gave up because we only

> lost 5.5 pounds you would shoot us!

In my case, I've been known to gain and lose 5 pounds day to day. In fact,

I'm the opposite of most people - I can weight myself at night before going

to bed and be one weight and wake up 5 pounds heavier after hitting the

bathroom!

Come on woman, you can keep up the

> bloody toe starvation diet for at least a month can't you.

I barely lasted these 2 weeks, and you want to know the final results? I was

the same weight yesterday morning as I was 2 days before I started on it. 14

days of going hungry for nothing.

Last night we had a pizza to celebrate Henry's finishing his undergrad work

(except for 2 exams) and for getting an " A " and getting 4th place in the

senior project (got himself a $25 voucher for the bookstore for that one).

This morning I woke up 2 pounds lighter than yesterday.

My body just defies science!

> I'm waiting around for the cable guy to install digital phone service.

We thought about it, but so many people in this city who did get it have

nothing but complaints, both for the operation of the phones and the tech

support (Optimum On-line, if anyone cares). With my dad gone and my stepmom

busy with her own family, if we make 1 long distance call every 6 months

that's a lot, and it's usually for tech support, not a personal call.

>I'm highly motivated

> to get this house under control.

Just a few short weeks until your girls are home for summer vacation.

> It's so embarrassing being such a horrid housekeeper.

Nah, ya get used to it. LOL

Sue in NJ

way behind in emails again