Re: OT - Very poorly daughter - advice?

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sue-

I feel for you! All of this had this a month or so ago... the vomiting was

followed by diarrhea and I was really worried about dehydration... How long

after the vomiting are you waiting til you offer water? I waited about half an

hour despite the thirst to make sure they were finished... Have you tried the

Pedialyte without flavoring? My kids did not like the flavored P or the P

popsicles... If the vomiting doesn't stop, watch for sunken, shadowy under eyes

and skin that doesn't snap back quickly around the wrist area. If this happens,

I would go to the ER for fluids... I hope the remedies stop the vomiting and

get her back on track... you can try regular popsicles too if she will try

them, after the water has been accepted without vomiting... I figured it was

better than nothing...

Good luck, I hope this resolves quickly, I know it's scary...

Love, Patty N.

[Guest guest]

Sue, my kids went through a similar bug about 6 weeks ago. My 3 year old

son vomited for 3 days straight, and did not eat or drink for 3 days.

Finally hit a homeopathic remedy that worked for him, and it was like magic,

he passed out into a deep sleep for a few hours, woke up, redosed, another

deep sleep, 3 times in total and he was good as new in the morning. The poor

kid drank, and drank, and drank for a couple of days, and had lost weight, I

felt so bad, but he bounced back quickly. I'm not sure how old your

daughter is, but to me, the wanting cold water only and not being able to

keep it down sounds like a key symptom. Is your homeopath a classicial one?

Or another that has just taken a few coarses? With my son, the key symptom

was that he wanted his back rubbed all the time.

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>

> How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting fluid like this? At some

> point the dehydration is going to become a big issue and I'm not sure how

> long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with whatever she's got in

her

> own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how long she can go on

> vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom picture with which to work -

> apart from the obvious.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I would definately try a different remedy if that one is not working.

L.

Re: OT - Very poorly daughter - advice?

>

> Sue, my kids went through a similar bug about 6 weeks ago. My 3 year old

> son vomited for 3 days straight, and did not eat or drink for 3 days.

> Finally hit a homeopathic remedy that worked for him, and it was like

magic,

> he passed out into a deep sleep for a few hours, woke up, redosed, another

> deep sleep, 3 times in total and he was good as new in the morning. The

poor

> kid drank, and drank, and drank for a couple of days, and had lost weight,

I

> felt so bad, but he bounced back quickly. I'm not sure how old your

> daughter is, but to me, the wanting cold water only and not being able to

> keep it down sounds like a key symptom. Is your homeopath a classicial

one?

> Or another that has just taken a few coarses? With my son, the key

symptom

> was that he wanted his back rubbed all the time.

>

>

> New Equine, Childrens and other Jewelry at

> http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

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>

>

>

> >

>

> > How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting fluid like this? At some

> > point the dehydration is going to become a big issue and I'm not sure

how

> > long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with whatever she's got in

> her

> > own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how long she can go on

> > vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom picture with which to

work -

> > apart from the obvious.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OH Sue! I am so sorry you are dealing with this now...

We are just on the tail end of it. I also worried about the

dehydrating part. I had Carson suck on crushed ice and he sipped

gingerale. We went well past 24 hours on the vommiting part and

then the fever set in for about 36 hours. In the midst of that the

diarrhea appeared. I would say a good 5 days is what it has taken

us and he is still very weak and pale.

I had the most luck with the Arsenicum as it fit him at that time.

He is more Bryonia now though. Sounds like your homeopath is on

the right track from what I went through and what I was told for

Carson.

Ice chips, popcicles, gingerale, water with electrolytes is what I

pushed.

wish I could offer more help...

hugs to you

Sherry

> I have a very unhappy little girl on my hands today. She went to

bed last

> night in good spirits, scampered into our bed at 11:00, and

started throwing

> up at 11:30. She vomited significant quantities of food three

times in

> total (we had to change the bed at 1:00!) and then carried on

vomiting mucus

> and fluid regularly during the night.

>

> Dh had to go out for a while this morning and she asked to come

down on the

> sofa around 10:30 and watch TV. She was trying to sleep but with

no

> success. Since 9:30, she's vomited ten times, and the problem

seems to be

> that every time she drinks any water - for which she's very

thirsty - she

> just brings it straight back up. She won't have warm water, only

cold.

> Sometimes it comes back straight away, sometimes after about ten

minutes,

> sometimes after about fifteen - that's about the longest.

>

> Although her energy was quite good early this morning and she was

reasonably

> chirpy, she is now getting very weak, very petulant and

argumentative, and

> very fed up with herself - understandably! I gave her a

phosphorus 30c

> about 9:30 as per instructions from our homeopath - seemed to make

a

> difference initially and I repeated the dose at 12:15, but she

refused a 3rd

> dose about an hour later. Our homoeopath has now prescribed a 30c

> arsenicum, to see if we can break the cycle of everything going

down and

> coming up again. She's also recommended a tea of slippery elm but

Robyns

> says point blank she won't have it. She won't even try warm water

to see if

> that stays down better, but she is now starting to get dehydrated,

imo.

> She's desperately thirsty, but can't keep a drop down. Food

hasn't even

> been an option today.

>

> How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting fluid like this? At

some

> point the dehydration is going to become a big issue and I'm not

sure how

> long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with whatever she's

got in her

> own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how long she can go

on

> vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom picture with which

to work -

> apart from the obvious.

>

> Any suggestions please? It's so hard to watch your child suffer -

and worse

> to hear them throwing up regularly. She's vomited about 19 times

since last

> night and I'm just beginning to fret a bit....

>

> Love, light and peace,

>

> Sue

>

> " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of

science

> that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather

than on

> laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of

Homoeopathy " .

>

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vaccinating

> UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their

children in

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[Guest guest]

Carson wanted cold drinks as well when he was going through this.

He is pretty thirsty now and is drinking water pretty often. We

stopped by school today and his teacher was shocked at the weight he

had lost and how sickly he looked....poor kid..

Sherry

> Sue, my kids went through a similar bug about 6 weeks ago. My 3

year old

> son vomited for 3 days straight, and did not eat or drink for 3

days.

> Finally hit a homeopathic remedy that worked for him, and it was

like magic,

> he passed out into a deep sleep for a few hours, woke up, redosed,

another

> deep sleep, 3 times in total and he was good as new in the

morning. The poor

> kid drank, and drank, and drank for a couple of days, and had lost

weight, I

> felt so bad, but he bounced back quickly. I'm not sure how old

your

> daughter is, but to me, the wanting cold water only and not being

able to

> keep it down sounds like a key symptom. Is your homeopath a

classicial one?

> Or another that has just taken a few coarses? With my son, the

key symptom

> was that he wanted his back rubbed all the time.

>

>

> New Equine, Childrens and other Jewelry at

> http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

> Semi-Precious & Silver beads at http://www.NeedForBeads.com

>

>

>

> >

>

> > How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting fluid like this?

At some

> > point the dehydration is going to become a big issue and I'm not

sure how

> > long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with whatever

she's got in

> her

> > own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how long she can

go on

> > vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom picture with which

to work -

> > apart from the obvious.

[Guest guest]

sue, have you tried letting her suck on a lemon or

lime? that always works wonders for my kids when they

throw up. also, i'd suggest a bath with a load of

natural salt (epsom, himalaya crystal, rock, or high

quality sea salt), to replace any minerals and trace

elements.

we seem to have been spared from this one, but several

locals here are suffering from the same.

claudia

--- crazeladyshopper <crazeladyshopper@...>

wrote:

>

> OH Sue! I am so sorry you are dealing with this

> now...

> We are just on the tail end of it. I also worried

> about the

> dehydrating part. I had Carson suck on crushed ice

> and he sipped

> gingerale. We went well past 24 hours on the

> vommiting part and

> then the fever set in for about 36 hours. In the

> midst of that the

> diarrhea appeared. I would say a good 5 days is

> what it has taken

> us and he is still very weak and pale.

>

> I had the most luck with the Arsenicum as it fit him

> at that time.

> He is more Bryonia now though. Sounds like your

> homeopath is on

> the right track from what I went through and what I

> was told for

> Carson.

>

> Ice chips, popcicles, gingerale, water with

> electrolytes is what I

> pushed.

>

> wish I could offer more help...

> hugs to you

> Sherry

>

> > I have a very unhappy little girl on my hands

> today. She went to

> bed last

> > night in good spirits, scampered into our bed at

> 11:00, and

> started throwing

> > up at 11:30. She vomited significant quantities

> of food three

> times in

> > total (we had to change the bed at 1:00!) and then

> carried on

> vomiting mucus

> > and fluid regularly during the night.

> >

> > Dh had to go out for a while this morning and she

> asked to come

> down on the

> > sofa around 10:30 and watch TV. She was trying to

> sleep but with

> no

> > success. Since 9:30, she's vomited ten times, and

> the problem

> seems to be

> > that every time she drinks any water - for which

> she's very

> thirsty - she

> > just brings it straight back up. She won't have

> warm water, only

> cold.

> > Sometimes it comes back straight away, sometimes

> after about ten

> minutes,

> > sometimes after about fifteen - that's about the

> longest.

> >

> > Although her energy was quite good early this

> morning and she was

> reasonably

> > chirpy, she is now getting very weak, very

> petulant and

> argumentative, and

> > very fed up with herself - understandably! I gave

> her a

> phosphorus 30c

> > about 9:30 as per instructions from our homeopath

> - seemed to make

> a

> > difference initially and I repeated the dose at

> 12:15, but she

> refused a 3rd

> > dose about an hour later. Our homoeopath has now

> prescribed a 30c

> > arsenicum, to see if we can break the cycle of

> everything going

> down and

> > coming up again. She's also recommended a tea of

> slippery elm but

> Robyns

> > says point blank she won't have it. She won't

> even try warm water

> to see if

> > that stays down better, but she is now starting to

> get dehydrated,

> imo.

> > She's desperately thirsty, but can't keep a drop

> down. Food

> hasn't even

> > been an option today.

> >

> > How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting

> fluid like this? At

> some

> > point the dehydration is going to become a big

> issue and I'm not

> sure how

> > long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with

> whatever she's

> got in her

> > own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how

> long she can go

> on

> > vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom

> picture with which

> to work -

> > apart from the obvious.

> >

> > Any suggestions please? It's so hard to watch

> your child suffer -

> and worse

> > to hear them throwing up regularly. She's vomited

> about 19 times

> since last

> > night and I'm just beginning to fret a bit....

> >

> > Love, light and peace,

> >

> > Sue

> >

> > " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the

> only branch of

> science

> > that has based its structure on opinions and

> suppositions rather

> than on

> > laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The

> Science of

> Homoeopathy " .

> >

> > MMRcontactnetworkUK

> - putting non-

> vaccinating

> > UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity

> for their

> children in

> > touch with each other

> >

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> all

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I hope by now your little one is feeling better.

One thing I wondered, is she gulping down large quantities of water when she

drinks? This will surely come back up. Ice chips and popsicles (like some have

suggested) are better because they take longer to get down. If she does drink

water, I would only let her have very small amounts, perhaps just one swallow

at a time. She will probably protest, but it's better to keep a swallow down

than gulp a cup full and have it come back up.

Kay

********************

I have a very unhappy little girl on my hands today. She went to bed last

night in good spirits, scampered into our bed at 11:00, and started throwing

up at 11:30. She vomited significant quantities of food three times in

total (we had to change the bed at 1:00!) and then carried on vomiting mucus

and fluid regularly during the night.

Dh had to go out for a while this morning and she asked to come down on the

sofa around 10:30 and watch TV. She was trying to sleep but with no

success. Since 9:30, she's vomited ten times, and the problem seems to be

that every time she drinks any water - for which she's very thirsty - she

just brings it straight back up. She won't have warm water, only cold.

Sometimes it comes back straight away, sometimes after about ten minutes,

sometimes after about fifteen - that's about the longest.

Although her energy was quite good early this morning and she was reasonably

chirpy, she is now getting very weak, very petulant and argumentative, and

very fed up with herself - understandably! I gave her a phosphorus 30c

about 9:30 as per instructions from our homeopath - seemed to make a

difference initially and I repeated the dose at 12:15, but she refused a 3rd

dose about an hour later. Our homoeopath has now prescribed a 30c

arsenicum, to see if we can break the cycle of everything going down and

coming up again. She's also recommended a tea of slippery elm but Robyns

says point blank she won't have it. She won't even try warm water to see if

that stays down better, but she is now starting to get dehydrated, imo.

She's desperately thirsty, but can't keep a drop down. Food hasn't even

been an option today.

How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting fluid like this? At some

point the dehydration is going to become a big issue and I'm not sure how

long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with whatever she's got in her

own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how long she can go on

vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom picture with which to work -

apart from the obvious.

Any suggestions please? It's so hard to watch your child suffer - and worse

to hear them throwing up regularly. She's vomited about 19 times since last

night and I'm just beginning to fret a bit....

Love, light and peace,

Sue

[Guest guest]

I wish I had something wise to tell you. Know that you both are in my thoughts

and prayers.

Anita

Mum2mishka <mum2mishka@...> wrote:

I have a very unhappy little girl on my hands today. She went to bed last

night in good spirits, scampered into our bed at 11:00, and started throwing

up at 11:30. She vomited significant quantities of food three times in

total (we had to change the bed at 1:00!) and then carried on vomiting mucus

and fluid regularly during the night.

Dh had to go out for a while this morning and she asked to come down on the

sofa around 10:30 and watch TV. She was trying to sleep but with no

success. Since 9:30, she's vomited ten times, and the problem seems to be

that every time she drinks any water - for which she's very thirsty - she

just brings it straight back up. She won't have warm water, only cold.

Sometimes it comes back straight away, sometimes after about ten minutes,

sometimes after about fifteen - that's about the longest.

Although her energy was quite good early this morning and she was reasonably

chirpy, she is now getting very weak, very petulant and argumentative, and

very fed up with herself - understandably! I gave her a phosphorus 30c

about 9:30 as per instructions from our homeopath - seemed to make a

difference initially and I repeated the dose at 12:15, but she refused a 3rd

dose about an hour later. Our homoeopath has now prescribed a 30c

arsenicum, to see if we can break the cycle of everything going down and

coming up again. She's also recommended a tea of slippery elm but Robyns

says point blank she won't have it. She won't even try warm water to see if

that stays down better, but she is now starting to get dehydrated, imo.

She's desperately thirsty, but can't keep a drop down. Food hasn't even

been an option today.

How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting fluid like this? At some

point the dehydration is going to become a big issue and I'm not sure how

long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with whatever she's got in her

own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how long she can go on

vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom picture with which to work -

apart from the obvious.

Any suggestions please? It's so hard to watch your child suffer - and worse

to hear them throwing up regularly. She's vomited about 19 times since last

night and I'm just beginning to fret a bit....

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science

that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on

laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " .

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UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their children in

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Traveled from US to UK on Monday/Tuesday.

Got computer set up today.

How is she doing?

Sheri

At 01:58 PM 3/22/2005 -0800, you wrote:

>

>I wish I had something wise to tell you. Know that you both are in my

thoughts and prayers.

>Anita

>

>Mum2mishka <mum2mishka@...> wrote:

>I have a very unhappy little girl on my hands today. She went to bed last

>night in good spirits, scampered into our bed at 11:00, and started throwing

>up at 11:30. She vomited significant quantities of food three times in

>total (we had to change the bed at 1:00!) and then carried on vomiting mucus

>and fluid regularly during the night.

>

>Dh had to go out for a while this morning and she asked to come down on the

>sofa around 10:30 and watch TV. She was trying to sleep but with no

>success. Since 9:30, she's vomited ten times, and the problem seems to be

>that every time she drinks any water - for which she's very thirsty - she

>just brings it straight back up. She won't have warm water, only cold.

>Sometimes it comes back straight away, sometimes after about ten minutes,

>sometimes after about fifteen - that's about the longest.

>

>Although her energy was quite good early this morning and she was reasonably

>chirpy, she is now getting very weak, very petulant and argumentative, and

>very fed up with herself - understandably! I gave her a phosphorus 30c

>about 9:30 as per instructions from our homeopath - seemed to make a

>difference initially and I repeated the dose at 12:15, but she refused a 3rd

>dose about an hour later. Our homoeopath has now prescribed a 30c

>arsenicum, to see if we can break the cycle of everything going down and

>coming up again. She's also recommended a tea of slippery elm but Robyns

>says point blank she won't have it. She won't even try warm water to see if

>that stays down better, but she is now starting to get dehydrated, imo.

>She's desperately thirsty, but can't keep a drop down. Food hasn't even

>been an option today.

>

>How long is it safe to let her go on vomiting fluid like this? At some

>point the dehydration is going to become a big issue and I'm not sure how

>long to let it ride. I'm all for her dealing with whatever she's got in her

>own time and naturally, but there's a limit to how long she can go on

>vomiting. She doesn't have much of a symptom picture with which to work -

>apart from the obvious.

>

>Any suggestions please? It's so hard to watch your child suffer - and worse

>to hear them throwing up regularly. She's vomited about 19 times since last

>night and I'm just beginning to fret a bit....

>

>Love, light and peace,

>

>Sue

>

> " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science

>that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on

>laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " .

>

>MMRcontactnetworkUK - putting non-vaccinating

>UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their children in

>touch with each other

>Imperfectly_Natural_Parents_UK - for all

>imperfectly natural parents everywhere!

>OT4VAX - Off-topic conversation for

>Vaccinations list members

>

>

>