Re: Re: Fluoride and angry dentist

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Unbelievable logic

At 04:51 PM 12/09/2004 -0000, you wrote:

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>> That just about sums up my opinion as well Sara, If the flouride

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>> in the water then we have no control over it, not my idea of free

>> choice!! They can do all the recommending they like, but

>ultimately

>> the decision should be yours and yours alone and not forced on you.

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>> Deb

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>to which the dentist answered:

>s, the dental term for tooth decay is contagious. Through

>kissing and using other peoples utensils it can be transmitted from

>one person to another. In poor families they don't have the the

>choice of doing a lot of things for them selves. Just as we mass

>protect the population by the addition of Chlorine, the first cousin

>to Fluorine to the water to protect the population from infection,

>we protect the population from one of the most contagious of

>diseases. It may not be a disease that puts you at risk of death,

>but it puts your health at risk. Did you know that the use of

>fluoride in adults prevents brittle bones? The cause of most of the

>elderly falling down and breaking hips. After that they are rarely

>the same. In a community, we must think of the health of the

>community. Instead of taking your stance where a few people will

>benefit from the added expense of taking fluoride, why don't you

>take the stance of, " I don't want it for my family. I will take the

>extra expense and buy bottled water and then I don't have to have

>the fluoride in my system " ? Doesn't that make more sense. Then the

>community can benefit and those that don't want it can refuse it and

>use other means. Your way the great majority that do want it have

>to be inconvienced by the few who don't want it. We live in a

>democracy where the wants of the many supercede the wants of the few.

>No one is making you drink water with fluoride in it, but you want

>all the people to bend to your wishes and you don't seem to care if

>they benefit from it or not. If you don't want the benefits, don't

>drink it. It is your right, but don't tell me what I can and can

>not do.

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See my webpage for everything else it is in

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/fluoride.htm

Teflon

Drugs such as statins, malaria pills, antibiotics

mattress gases

Scotchguard

Maybe he would like drugs put in the water to make men impotent to protect

society from rapists.

He can buy bottled water if he doesn't want to be impotent.

Or Prozac in the water since so many people 'need' Prozac for that prozac

deficiency..........ooooops, already doing that thru urine to sewage to

drinking water.

Water & Air should be fundamental rights. But no, they go to the highest

bidder and then dupe people like the deluded dentist here

Stupid idiots destroying our world every where you look

Sheri

At 05:35 PM 12/09/2004 -0000, you wrote:

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>Except that he talks about 1 part per million of water thinking that

>we're only getting that little bit, meanwhile it's everywhere, in

>our soda, our coffee and tea, our cooking water, our toothpaste, etc

>I would think we're all getting TOO much.

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>And he talks about the small minority of folks that don't want

>fluoride buying bottled water. The small minority is not so small

>anymore - autism is 1 in 166, children with autism cannot properly

>excrete metals, hence cannot excrete fluoride.

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>> to which the dentist answered:

>> s, the dental term for tooth decay is contagious. Through

>> kissing and using other peoples utensils it can be transmitted

>from

>> one person to another. In poor families they don't have the the

>> choice of doing a lot of things for them selves. Just as we mass

>> protect the population by the addition of Chlorine, the first

>cousin

>> to Fluorine to the water to protect the population from infection,

>> we protect the population from one of the most contagious of

>> diseases. It may not be a disease that puts you at risk of death,

>> but it puts your health at risk. Did you know that the use of

>> fluoride in adults prevents brittle bones? The cause of most of

>the

>> elderly falling down and breaking hips. After that they are

>rarely

>> the same. In a community, we must think of the health of the

>> community. Instead of taking your stance where a few people will

>> benefit from the added expense of taking fluoride, why don't you

>> take the stance of, " I don't want it for my family. I will take

>the

>> extra expense and buy bottled water and then I don't have to have

>> the fluoride in my system " ? Doesn't that make more sense. Then

>the

>> community can benefit and those that don't want it can refuse it

>and

>> use other means. Your way the great majority that do want it have

>> to be inconvienced by the few who don't want it. We live in a

>> democracy where the wants of the many supercede the wants of the

>few.

>> No one is making you drink water with fluoride in it, but you want

>> all the people to bend to your wishes and you don't seem to care

>if

>> they benefit from it or not. If you don't want the benefits,

>don't

>> drink it. It is your right, but don't tell me what I can and can

>> not do.

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At 06:31 PM 12/09/2004 -0000, you wrote:

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>A fair rebuttal I would have to admit on his part. The chlorine in

>the water is the first reason I chose to filter my water in

>Australia.

No, I don't agree it was a fair rebuttal

Chlorine gets rid of bad stuff in water because WE ahve polluted it so much

It does it in the water - doesn't treat something in our body

and then the chlorine is bad for us. The usually, we try to fix something

after the fact, instead of preventing it to begin with.

Really separate issues. What he is advocating is similar to what I said.

How about antibiotics in the water - that would be more similar.

You ahve to remember he is probably mercury damaged and can't think

properly and then brainwashed on top of that by the ADA who makes money off

of fluoride in the water.

Does anyone know if water filters actually filter out

>the flouride??

Not all do

You have to have reverse osmosis or similar but reverse osmosis isn't good

to filter everything else

So a combo of solid carbon block and reverse osmosis is needed

But reverse osmosis also wastes a lot of water -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/water1.htm

is the filter I have and sell, but no fluoride filtration

I've been looking at another intersting one.

http://www.wholly-water.com

Don't know about Australia

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>However, his answer still doesn't acknowledge the fact that flouride

>is actually dangerous, and somehow I don't think it will matter what

>you say, he's not about to change his mind. Good on you for trying

>though, and even if he doesn't " get it " maybe some other people on

>the list will....

No, he won't. On these lists you are talking to the 'others' - never the

person you think you are.

Remember that.

Sheri

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>Deb

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At 07:09 PM 12/09/2004 -0000, you wrote:

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>Hi Sheri

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>I realise this is OT, but I just had a quick question about the

>water filters. If the water is chlorinated from the tap and then

>filtered, does this then mean that you don't need to purify it?

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>Thanks Deb

Not sure what you mean by purify it.

But yes, if chlorinated, you only have to filter it out

But it has to be a certain type of filter

Those cheapo Ones that are water pitcher/filter combined don't do much

Sheri

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>> >A fair rebuttal I would have to admit on his part. The chlorine

>in

>> >the water is the first reason I chose to filter my water in

>> >Australia.

>> No, I don't agree it was a fair rebuttal

>> Chlorine gets rid of bad stuff in water because WE ahve polluted

>it so much

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>> It does it in the water - doesn't treat something in our body

>>

>> and then the chlorine is bad for us. The usually, we try to fix

>something

>> after the fact, instead of preventing it to begin with.

>>

>> Really separate issues. What he is advocating is similar to what

>I said.

>> How about antibiotics in the water - that would be more similar.

>>

>> You ahve to remember he is probably mercury damaged and can't think

>> properly and then brainwashed on top of that by the ADA who makes

>money off

>> of fluoride in the water.

>>

>> Does anyone know if water filters actually filter out

>> >the flouride??

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>> Not all do

>> You have to have reverse osmosis or similar but reverse osmosis

>isn't good

>> to filter everything else

>> So a combo of solid carbon block and reverse osmosis is needed

>> But reverse osmosis also wastes a lot of water -

>> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/water1.htm

>> is the filter I have and sell, but no fluoride filtration

>> I've been looking at another intersting one.

>> http://www.wholly-water.com

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>> Don't know about Australia

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>> >However, his answer still doesn't acknowledge the fact that

>flouride

>> >is actually dangerous, and somehow I don't think it will matter

>what

>> >you say, he's not about to change his mind. Good on you for

>trying

>> >though, and even if he doesn't " get it " maybe some other people

>on

>> >the list will....

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>> No, he won't. On these lists you are talking to the 'others' -

>never the

>> person you think you are.

>> Remember that.

>> Sheri

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>> >Deb

>> --------------------------------------------------------

>> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

>> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

>> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>> vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

>> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

>ALONE.

>>

>> ******

>> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

>down.

>> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

>destroy

>> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

>information

>> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

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to which the dentist answered:

s,

--Should be Caries, it's a bit of a worry when someone says he is an expert and

can't even spell the most basic of terms that he uses every day.

In poor families they don't have the the

choice of doing a lot of things for them selves.

--Yeah, and the poor families who wish to avoid flouride in the water can't

afford to buy bottled water. Our local council gives out flouride tablets, as

we don't have it in our water (yet). So that blows that argument out of the

water so to speak.

Just as we mass

protect the population by the addition of Chlorine,

--Don't like that idea either, which is why I avoid tap water, or boil the crap

out of it if I have no choice. Although I have heard that boiling flouridated

water in and enclosed space, for long periods of time can kill. Don't know how

true the story is as I remember it from way way back. But I read that an

elderly lady in a caravan was seriously poisoned (maybe she died, can't

remember) from the flouride gasses emmitted from boiling the impurities out of

her water.

Did you know that the use of

fluoride in adults prevents brittle bones? The cause of most of the

elderly falling down and breaking hips. After that they are rarely

the same.

--Now this is ludicrous to me. Doesn't this man know that a healthy dose of

sunshine will be a much more effective way of strengthening bones. My

grandfather is a prime example of this. At 88 years old he may be frail, but he

is not in danger of falling down and breaking his hip so easily.

In a community, we must think of the health of the

community. Instead of taking your stance where a few people will

benefit from the added expense of taking fluoride, why don't you

take the stance of, " I don't want it for my family. I will take the

extra expense and buy bottled water and then I don't have to have

the fluoride in my system " ? Doesn't that make more sense.

--Yeah, more sense to the bottled water companies. Wonder if he has shares in

that market. See previous comment for my answer to this one.

Then the

community can benefit and those that don't want it can refuse it and

use other means. Your way the great majority that do want it have

to be inconvienced by the few who don't want it.

--I am more inclined to believe that this statement should be reversed. I think

it is actually the great majority that don't want it.

We live in a

democracy where the wants of the many supercede the wants of the few.

No one is making you drink water with fluoride in it,

--By putting in our water supply we are made to drink it. Doesn't he realize

that even if we avoid using our own tap water, we can't be assured that

resturants aren't using it. Or the fact that nearly everything we buy has a

water content. Are there regulations that ensure products are produced with

pure water, or can they get away with slipping in tap water. I cán't have a

drink of water at a friends house, because I cannot be sure it is not tap water

(except by taste). What if I am suffering dehydration and have no choice but to

use a nearby tap. I find that the fact I refuse to drink tap water is an

inconvenience when not at home, unless I take a bottle with me everywhere. And

what about my daughter in the school yard when she uses the community drinking

fountain.

but you want

all the people to bend to your wishes and you don't seem to care if

they benefit from it or not. If you don't want the benefits, don't

drink it. It is your right, but don't tell me what I can and can

not do.

--Well he can go and get flouride tablets if he want's. It is a bit like the

passive smoking issue.

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