Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 At 08:44 PM 12/14/2004 -0000, you wrote: > > >I HAD to share this w/all of you, even though it will surprise *no >one*. My boss just called me because her daughter's daycare told her >that one of the children who was recently vaccinated for chicken pox >there developed...surprise...CHICKEN POX. Now she is all freaked out >about her daughter getting chicken pox too, DESPITE the fact that her >daughter was also vaccinated. This woman is a LAW PROFESSOR, highly >educated...just really goes to show you that no matter how " smart " >people are, they are still willing to abdicate their critical >faculties when it comes to vaccines. It just kills me!!! (BTW, we >are in the Cincinnati area if anyone wants to stop by and try to get >exposed--lol!) > > I wouldn't want to be exposed to what variety is in the vaccine. Who knows what it is. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 I hope her child didn't also receive the MMR at the same time. Data from a daycare in Israel showed that children who got chicken pox in close proximity or either receiving the MMR or contracting measles were strong risk factors for developing autism. My son developed autism shortly after getting the MMR - I'm so thankful that we declined varicella (our pediatrician/family practice physician advised us that he thought the chickenpox vax was worthless - he now thinks they're all bunk). Otherwise, I suspect/KNOW we'd be in worse shape than we are. He was a vegetable for 18 months. He has vaccine-strain measles virus in his spinal fluid. I'm really afraid, for the same reasons, of him getting chicken pox or being around recently vax'd kids. He's very fragile but all things considered, doing well. He's 7, in regulare ed - smart as can be - but socially weird. I'm not sure what it will take to clear this situation. Anyone know about a homeopathic program named Healers Who Share? Vicky (ps. I have a PhD, worked for the US Congress, am a nurse and was in health care for 25 years and was still stupid enough to vaccinate my beloved son. It's not about intelligence. It's about complacency, mis-placed trust, and not " doing your homework " before making the vax decision. It's about politics and big pharma corrupting the hearts and minds of well-intentioned physicians and nurses. It hurts a lot once you realize that these shortcomings trashed your baby's life and future. For us, it was years of worthless, expensive conventional infertility treatment. I finally got pregnant after 8 acupuncture treatments ($30 each).) chicken pox in vaccinated kid... I HAD to share this w/all of you, even though it will surprise *no one*. My boss just called me because her daughter's daycare told her that one of the children who was recently vaccinated for chicken pox there developed...surprise...CHICKEN POX. Now she is all freaked out about her daughter getting chicken pox too, DESPITE the fact that her daughter was also vaccinated. This woman is a LAW PROFESSOR, highly educated...just really goes to show you that no matter how " smart " people are, they are still willing to abdicate their critical faculties when it comes to vaccines. It just kills me!!! (BTW, we are in the Cincinnati area if anyone wants to stop by and try to get exposed--lol!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 At 06:30 PM 12/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >I hope her child didn't also receive the MMR at the same time. Data from a >daycare in Israel showed that children who got chicken pox in close >proximity or either receiving the MMR or contracting measles were strong >risk factors for developing autism. My son developed autism shortly after >getting the MMR - I'm so thankful that we declined varicella (our >pediatrician/family practice physician advised us that he thought the >chickenpox vax was worthless - he now thinks they're all bunk). Where is this peds/GP? Let me know privately! He know they are all bunk? Great. Otherwise, >I suspect/KNOW we'd be in worse shape than we are. He was a vegetable for >18 months. He has vaccine-strain measles virus in his spinal fluid. I'm >really afraid, for the same reasons, of him getting chicken pox or being >around recently vax'd kids. He's very fragile but all things considered, >doing well. He's 7, in regulare ed - smart as can be - but socially weird. >I'm not sure what it will take to clear this situation. Anyone know about a >homeopathic program named Healers Who Share? I went to their website..........something is ONLY homeopathic if it is prescribed according to the laws and principles of homeopathy. Just because someone is using diluted substances does not make it homeopathic. It is how they are figured out and used - there are true laws and principles that we use. Soooooooooo, it makes me nervous. Far be it from me to say there are not other systems out there that can heal. But if someone is using remedies NOT in a homeopathic way acccording to the laws, then they really make me nervous. If they invent their own system, and it works fine. Forewarned. I would find the BEST homeopath there is right now to work further with your child. It sounds like he's come a long ways. Where do you live? > >Vicky >(ps. I have a PhD, worked for the US Congress, am a nurse and was in health >care for 25 years and was still stupid enough to vaccinate my beloved son. >It's not about intelligence. It's about complacency, mis-placed trust, and >not " doing your homework " before making the vax decision. It's about >politics and big pharma corrupting the hearts and minds of well-intentioned >physicians and nurses. It hurts a lot once you realize that these >shortcomings trashed your baby's life and future. For us, it was years of >worthless, expensive conventional infertility treatment. I finally got >pregnant after 8 acupuncture treatments ($30 each).) Exactly! Oh man, what you have gone thru. To finally become pregnant after so much conventional garbage and then to have this happen. I can't imagine what this has done to you. Where do you live? Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 At 06:30 PM 12/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >I hope her child didn't also receive the MMR at the same time. Data from a >daycare in Israel showed that children who got chicken pox in close >proximity or either receiving the MMR or contracting measles were strong >risk factors for developing autism. My son developed autism shortly after >getting the MMR - I'm so thankful that we declined varicella (our >pediatrician/family practice physician advised us that he thought the >chickenpox vax was worthless - he now thinks they're all bunk). Where is this peds/GP? Let me know privately! He know they are all bunk? Great. Otherwise, >I suspect/KNOW we'd be in worse shape than we are. He was a vegetable for >18 months. He has vaccine-strain measles virus in his spinal fluid. I'm >really afraid, for the same reasons, of him getting chicken pox or being >around recently vax'd kids. He's very fragile but all things considered, >doing well. He's 7, in regulare ed - smart as can be - but socially weird. >I'm not sure what it will take to clear this situation. Anyone know about a >homeopathic program named Healers Who Share? I went to their website..........something is ONLY homeopathic if it is prescribed according to the laws and principles of homeopathy. Just because someone is using diluted substances does not make it homeopathic. It is how they are figured out and used - there are true laws and principles that we use. Soooooooooo, it makes me nervous. Far be it from me to say there are not other systems out there that can heal. But if someone is using remedies NOT in a homeopathic way acccording to the laws, then they really make me nervous. If they invent their own system, and it works fine. Forewarned. I would find the BEST homeopath there is right now to work further with your child. It sounds like he's come a long ways. Where do you live? > >Vicky >(ps. I have a PhD, worked for the US Congress, am a nurse and was in health >care for 25 years and was still stupid enough to vaccinate my beloved son. >It's not about intelligence. It's about complacency, mis-placed trust, and >not " doing your homework " before making the vax decision. It's about >politics and big pharma corrupting the hearts and minds of well-intentioned >physicians and nurses. It hurts a lot once you realize that these >shortcomings trashed your baby's life and future. For us, it was years of >worthless, expensive conventional infertility treatment. I finally got >pregnant after 8 acupuncture treatments ($30 each).) Exactly! Oh man, what you have gone thru. To finally become pregnant after so much conventional garbage and then to have this happen. I can't imagine what this has done to you. Where do you live? Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 The physician lives in the Detroit area. I live in Northern VA. Vicky RE: chicken pox in vaccinated kid... At 06:30 PM 12/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >I hope her child didn't also receive the MMR at the same time. Data from a >daycare in Israel showed that children who got chicken pox in close >proximity or either receiving the MMR or contracting measles were strong >risk factors for developing autism. My son developed autism shortly after >getting the MMR - I'm so thankful that we declined varicella (our >pediatrician/family practice physician advised us that he thought the >chickenpox vax was worthless - he now thinks they're all bunk). Where is this peds/GP? Let me know privately! He know they are all bunk? Great. Otherwise, >I suspect/KNOW we'd be in worse shape than we are. He was a vegetable for >18 months. He has vaccine-strain measles virus in his spinal fluid. I'm >really afraid, for the same reasons, of him getting chicken pox or being >around recently vax'd kids. He's very fragile but all things considered, >doing well. He's 7, in regulare ed - smart as can be - but socially weird. >I'm not sure what it will take to clear this situation. Anyone know about a >homeopathic program named Healers Who Share? I went to their website..........something is ONLY homeopathic if it is prescribed according to the laws and principles of homeopathy. Just because someone is using diluted substances does not make it homeopathic. It is how they are figured out and used - there are true laws and principles that we use. Soooooooooo, it makes me nervous. Far be it from me to say there are not other systems out there that can heal. But if someone is using remedies NOT in a homeopathic way acccording to the laws, then they really make me nervous. If they invent their own system, and it works fine. Forewarned. I would find the BEST homeopath there is right now to work further with your child. It sounds like he's come a long ways. Where do you live? > >Vicky >(ps. I have a PhD, worked for the US Congress, am a nurse and was in health >care for 25 years and was still stupid enough to vaccinate my beloved son. >It's not about intelligence. It's about complacency, mis-placed trust, and >not " doing your homework " before making the vax decision. It's about >politics and big pharma corrupting the hearts and minds of well-intentioned >physicians and nurses. It hurts a lot once you realize that these >shortcomings trashed your baby's life and future. For us, it was years of >worthless, expensive conventional infertility treatment. I finally got >pregnant after 8 acupuncture treatments ($30 each).) Exactly! Oh man, what you have gone thru. To finally become pregnant after so much conventional garbage and then to have this happen. I can't imagine what this has done to you. Where do you live? Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 At 07:45 AM 12/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >The physician lives in the Detroit area. I live in Northern VA. Vicky Wel, there aren't very good homeopaths near you. I'll give some names of one that is in CT that has helped one person who used to be on this list with a vaccine injured child I'll send her story. And also another (trying to remember her name) (also vaccine injured child) I know this isn't close, but it is worth traveling a distance to see someone who is good and has results L. Frederick RSHom (NA), CCH Riverlight Wellness Center 37 Water Street Mystic, CT. 06355 860-501-1487 solatones@... -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 >I hope her child didn't also receive the MMR at the same time. Data from a >daycare in Israel showed that children who got chicken pox in close >proximity or either receiving the MMR or contracting measles were strong >risk factors for developing autism< Tristan DID get the Chicken Pox and MMR the same day! That was because we knew nothing about the dangers of vaccines then ( he is 8 and half now) and the doctor said it was best to do that! He has moderate/severe autism. They continue to get away with maiming these kids and deny everything. Carlson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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