Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 This is scary.... Love, light and peace, Sue " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " . ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=98776 Netherlands hospital carries out euthanasia for terminally ill babies 12/01/2004 AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) -- A hospital in the Netherlands -- the first nation to permit euthanasia -- recently proposed guidelines for mercy killings of terminally ill newborns, and then made a startling revelation: It has already begun carrying out such procedures, which include administering a lethal dose of sedatives. The announcement by the Groningen Academic Hospital came amid a growing discussion in Holland on whether to legalize euthanasia on people incapable of deciding for themselves whether they want to end their lives -- a prospect viewed with horror by euthanasia opponents and as a natural evolution by advocates. In August, the main Dutch doctors' association KNMG urged the Health Ministry to create an independent board to review euthanasia cases for terminally ill people " with no free will, " including children, the severely mentally retarded and people left in an irreversible coma after an accident. The Health Ministry is preparing its response, which could come as soon as December, a spokesman said. Three years ago, the Dutch parliament made it legal for doctors to inject a sedative and a lethal dose of muscle relaxant at the request of adult patients suffering great pain with no hope of relief. The Groningen Protocol, as the hospital's guidelines have come to be known, would create a legal framework for permitting doctors to actively end the life of newborns deemed to be in similar pain from incurable disease or extreme deformities. The guideline says euthanasia is acceptable when the child's medical team and independent doctors agree the pain cannot be eased and there is no prospect for improvement, and when parents think it's best. Examples include extremely premature births, where children suffer brain damage from bleeding and convulsions; and diseases where a child could only survive on life support for the rest of its life, such as severe cases of spina bifida and epidermosis bullosa, a rare blistering illness. The has hospital revealed it carried out four such mercy killings in 2003, and reported all cases to government prosecutors. There have been no legal proceedings against the hospital or the doctors. Roman Catholic organizations and the Vatican have reacted with outrage to the announcement, and U.S. euthanasia opponents contend the proposal shows the Dutch have lost their moral compass. " The slippery slope in the Netherlands has descended already into a vertical cliff, " said Wesley J. , a prominent California-based critic, in an e-mail to The Associated Press. Child euthanasia remains illegal everywhere. Experts say doctors outside Holland do not report cases for fear of prosecution. " As things are, people are doing this secretly and that's wrong, " said Eduard Verhagen, head of Groningen's children's clinic. " In the Netherlands we want to expose everything, to let everything be subjected to vetting. " According to the Justice Ministry, four cases of child euthanasia were reported to prosecutors in 2003. Two were reported in 2002, seven in 2001 and five in 2000. All the cases in 2003 were reported by Groningen, but some of the cases in other years were from other hospitals. Groningen estimated the protocol would be applicable in about 10 cases per year in the Netherlands, a country of 16 million people. Since the introduction of the Dutch law, Belgium has also legalized euthanasia, while in France, legislation to allow doctor-assisted suicide is currently under debate. In the United States, the state of Oregon is alone in allowing physician-assisted suicide, but this is under constant legal challenge. However, experts acknowledge that doctors euthanize routinely in the United States and elsewhere, but that the practice is hidden. " Measures that might marginally extend a child's life by minutes or hours or days or weeks are stopped. This happens routinely, namely, every day, " said Lance Stell, professor of medical ethics at son College in son, N.C., and staff ethicist at Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte, N.C. " Everybody knows that it happens, but there's a lot of hypocrisy. Instead, people talk about things they're not going to do. " More than half of all deaths occur under medical supervision, so it's really about management and method of death, Stell said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I don't know how much others know on this subject, but it goes much deeper... IT'S MORE THEN JUST TERMINALLY ILL BABIES! The Netherlands is OUT OF CONTROL with this. Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide Act -- This Act entered into force on April 1, 2002 -- what people HAVE TO REALIZE is that the words " suffering was lasting & unbearable " can include those who are depressed and even at age 12!!! It doesn't REQUIRE terminal illness! This could mean babies born with birth defects could qualify. And depressed pre-teens. They are currently trying to change the law so teens can get assisted suicide without their parent's consent. READ BELOW: Chapter II. Requirements of Due Care http://www.derecho-comparado.com/legislacion/holeutanasia.htm Article 2 1.. The requirements of due care, referred to in Article 293 second paragraph Penal Code mean that the physician: 1.. holds the conviction that the request by the patient was voluntary and well-considered, 2.. holds the conviction that the patient's suffering was lasting and unbearable, 3.. has informed the patient about the situation he was in and about his prospects, 4.. and the patient hold the conviction that there was no other reasonable solution for the situation he was in, 5.. e. has consulted at least one other, independent physician who has seen the patient and has given his written opinion on the requirements of due care, referred to in parts a - d, and 6.. has terminated a life or assisted in a suicide with due care. 2.. If the patient aged sixteen years or older is no longer capable of expressing his will, but prior to reaching this condition was deemed to have a reasonable understanding of his interests and has made a written statement containing a request for termination of life, the physician may cant' out this request. The requirements of due care, referred to in the first paragraph, apply mutatis mutandis. 3.. If the minor patient has attained an age between sixteen and eighteen years and may be deemed to have a reasonable understanding of his interests, the physician may cant' out the patient's request for termination of life or assisted suicide, after the parent or the parents exercising parental authority and/or his guardian have been involved in the decision process. 4.. If the minor patient is aged between twelve and sixteen years and may be deemed to have a reasonable understanding of his interests, the physician may cant' out the patient's request, provided always that the parent or the parents exercising parental authority and/or his guardian agree with the termination of life or the assisted suicide. The second paragraph applies mutatis mutandis. http://www.pregnantpause.org/euth/nethhist.htm Before 1973, euthanasia was illegal in the Netherlands. In that year, a doctor was arrested and put on trial for killing her terminally ill mother with morphine. The court gave her a suspended sentence of one week in jail and a year's probation. This set a precedent, and the courts quickly established a set of guidelines for when it was permissible for physicians to assist a patient in committing suicide, such as requiring certain consultations, insisting that the patient must be suffering from a terminal illness, and that the patient must request it. In 1984, the Royal Society of Medicine issued " rules of careful conduct " for euthanasia. These called for the doctor to inform the patient of his condition, consult his nearest relatives (unless he objects), consult at least one other physician, keep written records, and, in the case of a child, obtain the consent of the parents or legal guardians. In 1985 a court dropped the " terminal illness " requirement in a case involving a young girl with multiple sclerosis. While her disease was incurable, there was no reason why she could not have lived indefinately. (In a more recent case a woman who was perfectly healthy but suffering from severe depression was euthanized at her request.) By the late 80's it had become routine to " euthanize " babies born with handicaps, like Down's syndrome and spina bifida. Three nurses in Amsterdam killed several comatose patients without any consent. They were convicted, not of homicide, but of failing to consult a physician. In 1990, physicians in the Netherlands were involved in 11,800 deaths, or 9% of all deaths in the country. Of these, half were labeled " active involuntary euthanasia " , that is, the patient was killed without his consent.1 In 1995, Parliament passed legislation which codified these court decisions into law. Dorinda Mommy to Seth and Saron Netherlands hospital carries out euthanasia for terminally ill babies This is scary.... Love, light and peace, Sue " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Hitler and the Nazis started thier " killing " spree with handicapped children and the mentally ill...This is very scarry. Donna > I don't know how much others know on this subject, but it goes much deeper... > > IT'S MORE THEN JUST TERMINALLY ILL BABIES! The Netherlands is OUT OF CONTROL with this. > > Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide Act -- This Act entered into force on April 1, 2002 -- > what people HAVE TO REALIZE is that the words " suffering was lasting & unbearable " can include those who are depressed and even at age 12!!! It doesn't REQUIRE terminal illness! This could mean babies born with birth defects could qualify. And depressed pre- teens. They are currently trying to change the law so teens can get assisted suicide without their parent's consent. READ BELOW: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 exactly!!! VERY SCARY!! Dorinda Mommy to Seth and Saron Re: Netherlands hospital carries out euthanasia for terminally ill babies Hitler and the Nazis started thier " killing " spree with handicapped children and the mentally ill...This is very scarry. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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