Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 > Has anybody heard of weight watchers program where you don't count > anything? From the group's Archives: 100-plus/message/18956 Date: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:27 am Subject: Re: New WW program > Could someone tell me the basics on the new plan? I got these from other messages. All comments are by the original authors. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is the " core plan " , which does not require portion counting. Unlimited fruits and vegetables. Unlimited legumes, meat substitutes, tofu, etc. Unlimited nonfat dairy. Unlimited lean meats. Unlimited grains for ONE MEAL A DAY. Only one meal. 2 teaspoons of olive or flaxseed oil (or others) to give you your fatty acids for the day. 35 flex points to do with as you wish, and then additional points allotted for exercise. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What's in the 'Core Plan' Highlights from Weight Watchers' new program, which promotes food that's big on volume but low in calories. - Fruits and vegetables: Any plain fresh or frozen items, and anything canned without syrup. - Protein: Leaner meats. Ham might be OK, bacon and spareribs less so. - Grains: Mostly whole grains -- whole wheat pasta and brown rice, for instance. - Dairy: Plain, nonfat options should be fine. - Soups: Broth- and tomato-based items are on the list; cream-based aren't. - Breakfast cereals: Because they're tempting as a snack, only four made the cut -- puffed wheat and rice, shredded wheat and 100 percent bran. - Healthy oils: A couple tablespoons of heart-healthy options are allowed, such as canola or olive oil. - No-nos: Foods likely to become nutritional crutches -- many unsweetened cereals, white rice, nonfat fruit yogurt or sugar-free cocoa. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ and from the blog site: Meat and Meat Substitutes * Lean beef, lamb, pork and veal (loin or round and trim visible fat) * Ground beef (7% fat or less) * Organ meats (eww, for me!) fresh, frozen or canned (canned organ meat? double eww!) * Poultry - Chicken and turkey, again trim visible fat, no skin * Ground chicken or turkey, once a day only * Fish and shellfish, fresh, frozen, or canned, any variety as long as not packed in fat or oil. Sign me up for all-you-can-eat shrimp with homemade cocktail sauce with Splenda instead of sugar. * Tofu, any type * Frozen veggie burgers - wonder if this means not the large, delectable ones in restaurants? Probably not. * NO deli meats or hot dogs - so much for the Atkins connection, but how many of us have followed Atkins only to remain fat? I know I have! Eggs, Dairy & Cheese * Whole eggs or whites (yay, rah!) as long as we prepare without butter or fat OR count the FLEX points * Eggbeaters and other egg substitutes * Fat-free milk, cheese and sour cream * Soy milk and soy cheese * Plain yogurt. I take it that the aspartame-only - no sugar varieties would be OK, or that it's OK to sweeten it myself and add my own fruit. * Weight Watchers Smoothies (or ALBA) or fat-free, sugar-free instant hot cocoa are OK, but only once a day (danger, will robinson) * NO real, yummy cheese, unless you spend your Flex points on it, apparently not even Parmesan over the lowfat spaghetti sauce Fruit * Any fresh, frozen or canned fruit (no added sugar; canned must be packed in water or juice (not syrup); AND drained before eating, as they don't allow JUICE, see next item * NO juice - too easy to overdo, I suspect * Unsweetened applesauce * NO Dried fruits, too high caloric density, they're too dangerous Veggies * ANY fresh, frozen or canned veggies without any non-Core-Food ingredients, especially watching for added oil or sugar. * Yes, potatoes - no, French Fries * Yes, sweet potatoes * Yes, corn * Yes, beans and lentils, fat-free refried beans are OK * Tomato paste, puree and sauce * NO vegetable juices; I suspect they think I'll gorge on carrot juice or somesuch. But does this mean no more free v-8? Doesn't that contradict the tomato sauce or tomato soup ruling? Soup * If you make soups only with core foods, we can go for it! * Bean soups like lentil or split pea are fine, even corn chowder, though I'd go sparingly on that unless on maintenance! * Bouillon broth are fine, add core foods only * Tomato soup is allowed; again, why not V-8 then? * NO Cream soups, though I'm thinking of trying soymilk (already violating? maybe I should wait until I've lost a few pounds!) Cereal and Grain Once a day, we can have: * all-grain cereal with fat-free milk or soymilk (I like Silk). For dry cereals, this means ONLY puffed wheat or rice, shredded wheat, and all bran cereals with no added sugar. Rice Krispies and Special K and the like have added fat AND sugar, unfortunately. Look them up on the web, like at Kellogg's. For hot cereals, we can have Cream of Wheat, oatmeal and such. * I like Bob's Red Mill products, myself. * Add fruit! It makes it not so boring and tasteless. * Once a day, whole-wheat pasta, brown rice, potatoes or grains (including couscous, which I figured would be excluded because it's just regular pasta, but it isn't). Note: Beware of the new American Beauty Healthy pasta, which is secretly regular pasta with a smidgen of added whole grain. Fats, Oils Dressings * 2 teaspoons (NOT tablespoons heart-friendly oil per day * other than that, none, nothing, zip, nada. Get ready to use your Flex points for this good stuff. * Nonstick cooking and baking spray Other Free Stuff * Ice and water, including sugar-free, clear beverages such as any diet soda (NOT coke's new C2 though) * Seasonings and herbs, without added sugar - have to read those labels. * Fat-free salad dressing; I find all the fat-free butters and dressings yucky, myself and will be using flex points. * Fat-free margarine (I stay away from this hydrogenated stuff; it's supposed to be bad for the arteries, isn't it? Besides just dampening the bread that I already can't have) * Fat-free mayonnaise (I'd rather spend flex points for the real deal) * Extracts and flavorings. Vanilla extract in FF cottage cheese, with cut-up pears and wheat germ is great in a cheesecake-y sort of way. My Flex Points Will Be Going Toward * Tiny dabs of real butter, sour cream and mayonnaise to liven up the veggies * Bread - bagels and tortillas mostly, for me * Alcohol, when I can't stay away from the red wine or the occasional Fat Tire ale * Eating out - because how the heck can you ensure following Core Plan unless it's a side salad with fat free dressing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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