Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I bought one when I had Liam (waste of money, he never slept in his crib LOL). They shipped quickly and there were no problems. in IL -------------- Original message -------------- > > > Thank you for all the replies on RH negative and rhogam. Thanks > Donna for the info that what she might have gotten was thimerosal > free. I'm going to try and find out from her doctors office today, > but don't know if they will tell me that info since I'm not the > patient. Just trying to not worry my daughter until I find out. > Might have to tell her if the doctor won't tell me. It still sounds > like she shouldn't have gotten it by the info Sherri sent. It seems > you can't trust anyone and have to be an authority on everything. > I'm still worried for her and her baby. Thanks to those who shared of > receiving this injection and whose children are okay. Hopefully this > will be the case with my daughter. > > Now for a new question. Have any of you read of mattress wrapping to > help prevent SIDS? I have read several articles and am thinking of > ordering a BabeSafe Mattress Cover from PreventCribDeath.com. Have > any of you done any business with the company? I'm only going to > order one cover now in case something goes wrong and I lose my money > from a site I don't know anything about. I think I am more worried > and have done more reading on this grandbaby then I did on my own > children. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Please go to www.healthychild.com for more info on mattress wrapping. Here is an article I wrote about how to do it. Do crib mattresses cause infant deaths? Randall Neustaedter OMD Alarming research suggests that the gases emitted from mattresses treated with various chemicals, including most adult, bassinet, and crib mattresses, may be associated with sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). When naturally occurring fungi grow in the mattress they react with these chemicals producing a toxic gas cloud that hovers just above the baby's bed. Turning babies onto their backs to sleep has resulted in a dramatic decrease in deaths, because the babies' noses are no longer stuffed into the mattress where the concentration of gases is highest, claims New Zealand researcher Sprott. His solution? Wrap all mattresses in polyethylene sheeting (at least 5 mil in thickness), available at hardware stores, to seal the gases into the mattress. Since a mattress-wrapping campaign was initiated in 1994, the rate of SIDS has dropped by 48 percent in New Zealand and no infants sleeping on mattresses that were wrapped in polyethylene have died. A study published in the British Medical Journal * confirmed that crib mattresses contribute to SIDS. This study sought to examine whether infants who died without obvious cause were more likely to sleep on a used mattress. Dr. Sprott contends that older, used mattresses will contain more fungi and release more toxic gas. When infants sleep on these mattresses, they risk sudden death from asphyxiation. Dr. Sprott asserts that the remarkable success of the back-to-sleep campaign, wherein parents are encouraged by their doctors to put babies to sleep on their backs, is due to the decreased exposure to this gas. Noses out of the mattress results in less deaths. This new study, conducted in Scotland, lends further credence to Dr. Sprott's findings. This research study investigated whether infants who slept on a previously used mattress were more likely to die of SIDS. In this study conducted between 1996 and 2000, these researchers confirmed their previous findings from 1997. They discovered that, " Routine use of an infant mattress previously used by another child was significantly associated with an increased risk of sudden infant death syndrome. " The authors of this new study do not assert a cause and effect relationship between SIDS and used infant mattresses, nor do they discuss the toxic gas theory. An accompanying editorial in the same issue of the British Medical Journal discusses the possible role of bacterial accumulation in the mattresses. Toxic bacteria could grow on saliva, urine or milk that have soaked into the mattress from a previous child. However, the editorial reviews no evidence that these infants have died of any bacterial infections. This new evidence should reinforce every parent's resolve to wrap their infant's mattress with polyethylene. This includes the bassinet, the crib, or the parents' own mattress if they sleep with their baby. .. Tappin, D., et al. Used infant mattresses and sudden infant death syndrome in Scotland: case-control study, British Medical Journal, 2002;325:1007 (2 November). www.bmj.com .. HOW TO WRAP A BABY'S MATTRESS FOR SIDS PREVENTION Instructions written by Sprott The advice to wrap mattresses applies to every mattress on which a baby sleeps (except a BabeSafe mattress) and includes: adults' mattresses; mattresses of other children; and all mattresses made of or containing natural products such as sheepfleeces, goatskins, kapok, tree bark, coconut fibre, etc. The most convenient way to wrap a baby's mattress is by means of a BabeSafe mattress cover. As an alternative, parents can purchase polyethylene sheeting to make their own mattress wraps. If they select this option, the following instructions apply: 1. Use thick, clear (not colored) polyethylene sheeting, available in the paint section of your local hardware store. The thickness of the polyethylene must be at least 125 microns, or 5 mil. On no account should PVC be used for wrapping mattresses. 2. Place the polyethylene over the top of the mattress and down the ends and sides, and then secure it firmly beneath the mattress with strong adhesive or duct tape. 3. The polyethylene should not be airtight on the underside of the mattress. It must be airtight on the top and sides of the mattress. 4. It is imperative to use the correct bedding with a BabeSafe mattress or BabeSafe mattress cover or polyethylene-covered mattress. On top of the polyethylene place a fleecy pure cotton underblanket and tuck this in securely. Then make the bed using sheets and pure woollen or pure cotton overblanket/s. 5. Do not use any of the following items in your baby's bed: Sheepskin Sheepfleece underlay Any form of moisture-resistant mattress protector Acrylic blanket Sleeping bag Duvet 6. Proprietary mattresses and mattress covers must not be used unless they carry the Campaign against Cot Death logo or are accompanied by a certificate of analysis showing that they contain no detectable phosphorus, arsenic or antimony (lower limit of detection 0.001% = 10mg/kg = 10ppm). For more information about baby mattress issues read the articles at the healthychild website. Randall Neustaedter OMD Classical Medicine Center 1779 Woodside Rd., 201C Redwood City, CA 94061 650 299-9170 www.cure-guide.com Subscribe to my free e-newsletter by entering " subscribe " in the subject box of your reply. mattress wrapping and SIDS Thank you for all the replies on RH negative and rhogam. Thanks Donna for the info that what she might have gotten was thimerosal free. I'm going to try and find out from her doctors office today, but don't know if they will tell me that info since I'm not the patient. Just trying to not worry my daughter until I find out. Might have to tell her if the doctor won't tell me. It still sounds like she shouldn't have gotten it by the info Sherri sent. It seems you can't trust anyone and have to be an authority on everything. I'm still worried for her and her baby. Thanks to those who shared of receiving this injection and whose children are okay. Hopefully this will be the case with my daughter. Now for a new question. Have any of you read of mattress wrapping to help prevent SIDS? I have read several articles and am thinking of ordering a BabeSafe Mattress Cover from PreventCribDeath.com. Have any of you done any business with the company? I'm only going to order one cover now in case something goes wrong and I lose my money from a site I don't know anything about. I think I am more worried and have done more reading on this grandbaby then I did on my own children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 And yet... how did we all survive without mattress wraps and back sleeping? i have to wonder if maybe your article is right sir... and yet I want to throw in another thought... that maybe if *our* children weren't vaccinated that they would be able to *throw off* the chemical fiasco. With functioning immune systems we will build immunity to things we are exposed to over time. just my thoughts... and my kids sleep with me also. not on crib mattresses... and on their tummies. my children are all unvaccinated. I have other feelings about back sleeping, it sure makes for a miserable home when the child won't sleep because they wanna be on their tummy. heather doak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 said: > And yet... how did we all survive without mattress wraps and back > sleeping? Well for one thing, mattresses didn't used to be stuffed full of foam made from petro-chemicals, and other hazardous chemicals such as fire-retardants. I think antimony has been removed now, but that was thought to be a big culprit, wasn't it? And with the best will in the world, once a baby is old enough and strong enough to roll, any amount of putting it to sleep on its back won't keep it there. I've often wondered whether back sleeping doesn't promote asphyxiation through aspirating vomit. > > i have to wonder if maybe your article is right sir... and yet I want to > throw in another thought... that maybe if *our* children weren't > vaccinated > that they would be able to *throw off* the chemical fiasco. With > functioning > immune systems we will build immunity to things we are exposed to > over time. I have to agree. It's all about damage limitation nowadays - we can't take every toxin out of the environment, so we just have to lower the limit as best we can. And not vaxing is the first step on the road of damage limitation along with breastfeeding and having as drug-free and natural a birth as possible. Then it's adding in organic food, pure water, restricting non-essential medicines and additives... The bottom line is we do the best we can with what we have. > > just my thoughts... and my kids sleep with me also. not on crib > mattresses... and on their tummies. my children are all > unvaccinated. I have > other feelings about back sleeping, it sure makes for a miserable > home when > the child won't sleep because they wanna be on their tummy. Again, I agree with you, . I personally rate co-sleeping and breastfeeding as the biggest preventatives of SIDS. A b/f mum's circadian rhythms work around her baby's, helping her be alert to her baby's needs, and certainly a baby's body temperature has been shown to be better regulated when sleeping with mum. For me, the biggest SIDS factors are formula feeding, vaccinating, and putting babe to sleep on their own, in a cot in a nursery. Just my 2p's worth....) Love, light and peace, Sue " Learn from the mistakes of others--you can never live long enough to make them all yourself. " - Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I'm with you ! Deb > And yet... how did we all survive without mattress wraps and back sleeping? > > i have to wonder if maybe your article is right sir... and yet I want to > throw in another thought... that maybe if *our* children weren't vaccinated > that they would be able to *throw off* the chemical fiasco. With functioning > immune systems we will build immunity to things we are exposed to over time. > > just my thoughts... and my kids sleep with me also. not on crib > mattresses... and on their tummies. my children are all unvaccinated. I have > other feelings about back sleeping, it sure makes for a miserable home when > the child won't sleep because they wanna be on their tummy. > > heather doak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 just a rant about sids and the whole *back to sleep* business... excuse me! <VBG> i think these back to sleep people are just missing some very important points. those chemicals are still entering the system on the belly OR the back... yet I feel like the back to sleep causes us some problems... as mothers that just seem to be at controling the population more than anything else.. i mean who wants to have more than one child when the first won't quit screaming or sleep. another thing i think i must be the only one who notices but they make it sound like the baby is sufficating on something. but they know this isn't the case... otherwise it would be death by suffication. but they have no problem scewing it to appear as though that is what is happening... *get the stuffed animals out of the bed, pillows and blankets...* it isn't about sufficating! also no one is questioning the electronic devices in the bed rooms which mess with other things... just saw in a catolog about a temperature moniter that moniters the babies temp and sends a signal to the base every 10 SECONDS!! it slips on the diaper... what about the electrical current coming from that little moniter that is now laying on the babies already weak and stressed out kidney ok back to back to sleep... it just doesn't make sense. plain and simple. that a baby would forget to breath. or that their heart would stop for no apperant reason. and that it would make a difference if they are sleeping on their tummy or back....... there has to be an internal malfunction for this to happen. and mold/mildew/fungus in the brain... as well as vaccine damage done to the brain are major factors that need to be pointed here. (which i realize are being... like i said this is a rant! LOL) well my kiddos need a snack! ignore me... ) heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 >there. I've often wondered whether back sleeping doesn't promote >asphyxiation through aspirating vomit. Somebody I know lost her son (then 3, so at the age where he chose how he slept) when he had a fit at night, vomited and choked on it so I am sure that back sleeping can promote it in the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 , I'm with you on this. Babies always went to sleep on their tummies from day one. You want to yell " It's the vaccines, stupid. " Jackie Noel www.sagaciousairedales.com www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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