Re: OT: stubborn diaper rash--HELP!

November 2, 2004

I love Natures Fresh spray by natures sunshine..

http://www.mynsp.com/fruitoflight

heather

November 3, 2004

have you tried Burts Bees Baby Skin Cream. I don't know what's in it, but I

swear by it.

Are you using cloth or disposible? If you are using sposies, would you

consider cloth? I know some kids just can't take the chemicals in sposies.

Otherwise, I'm no help, my tried & true remedy is suppressive by nature (per

Sheri in a post a long long time ago LOL).

in IL

November 3, 2004

Hi ,

> Does anyone out there have any experience with really super

> stubborn diaper rash? My baby is 16 months old and I have always

> had to fight the rashes--we can't have a diaper on her without

> thick layers of ointment all the time. But for the past month or

> so we have been battling it off and on continuously.

What's the rash like? Any chance it could be candida? Those nappy rashes

tend to have very angry red spots with white, blistery centres. The spots

are larger than ordinary nappy rash spots.

> I have

> tried " airing out " her bottom as much as possible, but at her age

> with her high activity level, the mess is just too much.

I can sympathise!!! I have so much admiration for EC mums!

> I have

> tried every kind of ointment I can find, and even Lansinoh creme

> for breastfeeding moms. I have read somewhere about something

> called Triple Paste, which I cannot find locally. If anyone has

> used this and found it worthy, I will certainly buy it online if

> I have to (it's VERY expensive).

My instinctive reaction is that something in the creams you are using could,

in theory, be making the rash worse. I have known so many b/f mums use a

product available in the UK called Kamillosan. It's a nipple cream based on

chamomilla, and aside from the fact that chamomile itself can be very

allergenic, it has a host of other ingredients such as beeswax

(non-organic), white paraffin, liquid petroleum...etc. etc. etc. And when

I've suggested leaving it off for a while to see if desperately sore nipples

improve, many come back with reports of almost instant relief. If the rash

is a form of contact dermatitis, then anything you use externally might make

it worse.

One other suggestion - have you tried breastmilk on it? If you only stopped

b/f three months ago, it shouldn't be hard to pump a reasonable quantity to

apply.

I would also suggest eliminating any chemical bath products if you use them,

change to a non-bio detergent for your babe's clothes, dump the fabric

conditioner - white vinegar works just as well - and try putting some oats

through your babe's bathwater. This will soften the skin and soothe any

itching. You might try just *one* drop of lavender oil, or possibly tea

tree or sweet thyme if you suspect candida, in the bathwater too.

Alternatively, I'd be inclined to try some mother tincture of calendula.

>I have also tried eliminating

> milk. This baby was breastfed for 13 months and has never had

> formula, but has been drinking whole milk since weaning. We

> never had a problem with it, but I thought I would try. It

> doesn't seem to help though. Sometimes she has diarrhea and

> sometimes not. There is no rhyme or reason to it. I am at my

> wits end and trying to do anything to avoid taking her to a

> doctor at this point. Thank you so much for any input!

Could be milk. But if you have no family history of milk allergy, maybe

not. I'm always deeply suspicious of food allergies if there's no history -

seems almost too convenient. How about wheat? Anyone in the family with

wheat allergy? If you suspect any food intolerance, keep a food diary and

withdraw things one by one to see if it makes any difference. If she's

getting diarrhoea a lot it could be irritating the skin. Does she drink a

lot of juice? Or does she eat lots of fruit - large amounts of vit C can

cause *toddler diarrhoea* and that would also account for an irritated

bottom.

And see a homoeopath? ;o)

Just a few odds and ends to consider. I wouldn't waste a lot of money on

creams. That rash is trying to tell you something...

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" Learn from the mistakes of others--you can never live long enough to make

them all yourself. " - Luther

November 3, 2004

Does she drink a

lot of juice? Or does she eat lots of fruit - large amounts of vit C can

cause *toddler diarrhoea* and that would also account for an irritated

bottom.

<<<< and juice is an inducer of yeast. so.....

heather

November 3, 2004

Hi ,

from what i've been reading, allergies are the most common cause of

severe diaper rash. other sensetivity symptoms include frequent

diarrhea or constipationm regular stuffiness , ear fluids, ear

infections, fussiness...is your little one still breastfeeding at

all? apparently,dairy (even the tiny amount of it in breastmilk from

the dairy the mother consumes) could still be the culprit. you'd have

to eliminate all sources of dairy for a couple of weeks to really

rule this one out. ... " Baby Matters " by Palmer has a lot of

info on it..other suspects are eggs, wheat and soy, citrus,peanut,

corn, strawberry,tomato,chicken

That said, I have been on an elimination diet myself (I have a 12

week old baby), and that hasn't helped his colic(we haven't had any

diaper rash or other symptoms at all, so maybe allergies are not the

case).

i hope you find the reason for that nasty diaper rash soon and your

little one feels better!

, mom to Nico

> Does anyone out there have any experience with really super

stubborn diaper rash? My baby is 16 months old and I have always had

to fight the rashes--we can't have a diaper on her without thick

layers of ointment all the time. But for the past month or so we

have been battling it off and on continuously. I have tried " airing

out " her bottom as much as possible, but at her age with her high

activity level, the mess is just too much. I have tried every kind

of ointment I can find, and even Lansinoh creme for breastfeeding

moms. I have read somewhere about something called Triple Paste,

which I cannot find locally. If anyone has used this and found it

worthy, I will certainly buy it online if I have to (it's VERY

expensive). I have also tried eliminating milk. This baby was

breastfed for 13 months and has never had formula, but has been

drinking whole milk since weaning. We never had a problem with it,

but I thought I would try. It doesn't seem to help though.

Sometimes she has diarrhea and sometimes not. There is no rhyme or

reason to it. I am at my wits end and trying to do anything to avoid

taking her to a doctor at this point. Thank you so much for any

input!

>

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November 3, 2004

Could it be some other allergy rather than milk? Is there some

other food that she favours or that she eats regularly? Could it be

thrush? I used to use a nappy liner sometimes with a cloth nappy

and found that often helped to keep the urine away from their skin

and therefore reduce the irritation to the rash until it healed. A

fantastic ointment that I use for absolutely everything is pawpaw

(papaya) ointment which is available in all health food stores in

Australia however I don't know if it exists anywhere else in the

world...Sorry I can't offer any other suggestions...good luck..Deb

> Does anyone out there have any experience with really super

stubborn diaper rash? My baby is 16 months old and I have always

had to fight the rashes--we can't have a diaper on her without thick