Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 At 10:23 PM 10/25/2004 -0000, you wrote: > > >I have a question Im not sure if you will be able to answer or not, >But I am going to ask anyways!.. > >The daily limit for " ingesting " mercury is 0.3 mcg, What would be >the limit for " injecting " mercury? > >Thanks, > >Donna EPA’s limit of 0.1 mcg per KG/Day guidelines is for ingestion................comes from some original study with some population and fish/mercury consumption - can't remember the details and can't find the original (and this is for methylmercury - the always make another weasel statement that methylmercury is probably more of a problem than ethyl mercury, but again they don't have a clue because they won't look.). Others are looking and are of the opinion it is probably the opposite - ethyl worse than methyl This is for ORAL There is no other statement for injection And this is ONLY a guideline. Not, according to them, or CDC, a hard & fast rule. (gives them lots of weasel room) They have no idea Mercury is 2nd in toxic elements ONLY to uranium. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Have you seen this study on thimerosal? This study came out Last January. The effect of thimerosal, an organomercurial preservative in vaccines, on cerebellar neurons dissociated from 2-week-old rats was compared with those of methylmercury using a flow cytometer with appropriate fluorescent dyes. Thimerosal and methylmercury at concentrations ranging from 0.3 to 10 microM increased the intracellular concentration of Ca2+ ([Ca2+]i) in a concentration- dependent manner. The potency of 10 microM thimerosal to increase the [Ca2+]i was less than that of 10 microM methylmercury. Their effects on the [Ca2+]i were greatly attenuated, but not completely suppressed, under external Ca(2+)-free condition, suggesting a possibility that both agents increase membrane Ca2+ permeability and release Ca2+ from intracellular calcium stores. The effect of 10 microM thimerosal was not affected by simultaneous application of 30 microM L-cysteine whereas that of 10 microM methylmercury was significantly suppressed. The potency of thimerosal was similar to that of methylmercury in the presence of L-cysteine. Both agents at 1 microM or more similarly decreased the cellular content of glutathione in a concentration-dependent manner, suggesting an increase in oxidative stress. Results indicate that thimerosal exerts some cytotoxic actions on cerebellar granule neurons dissociated from 2-week-old rats and its potency is almost similar to that of methylmercury. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=14698570 I had posted this early last year on another group, One of our people responded with this... It should be noted that this research study compared equal doses of methylmercury and thimerosal. However, thimerosal is only 1/2 mercury (ethylmercury), so the authors should have compared 1/2 dose thimerosal with 1 dose methylmercury. The conclusion would then be that ethylmercury is equally potent to methylmercury in increasing Ca2++. The study also says that unlike methylmercury (which is usually bound to cysteine in a cell) thimerosal's potency is unaffected by presence of L-cysteine in the neuron, so under in vivo conditions the effects of ethylmercury are likely greater (by a factor or 2) than methyl. Finally, the study shows that thimerosal is more potent than methyl in decreasing glutathione levels in the cell, which is what other researchers have/are finding as well. Im really angry knowing these people are STILL injecting mercury into infants and pregnant women. Donna > > > > > >I have a question Im not sure if you will be able to answer or not, > >But I am going to ask anyways!.. > > > >The daily limit for " ingesting " mercury is 0.3 mcg, What would be > >the limit for " injecting " mercury? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Donna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 yes At 11:06 PM 10/25/2004 -0000, you wrote: > > >Have you seen this study on thimerosal? > >This study came out Last January. > > >The effect of thimerosal, an organomercurial preservative in >vaccines, on cerebellar neurons dissociated from 2-week-old rats was >compared with those of methylmercury using a flow cytometer with >appropriate fluorescent dyes. Thimerosal and methylmercury at >concentrations ranging from 0.3 to 10 microM increased the >intracellular concentration of Ca2+ ([Ca2+]i) in a concentration- >dependent manner. The potency of 10 microM thimerosal to increase >the [Ca2+]i was less than that of 10 microM methylmercury. Their >effects on the [Ca2+]i were greatly attenuated, but not completely >suppressed, under external Ca(2+)-free condition, suggesting a >possibility that both agents increase membrane Ca2+ permeability and >release Ca2+ from intracellular calcium stores. The effect of 10 >microM thimerosal was not affected by simultaneous application of 30 >microM L-cysteine whereas that of 10 microM methylmercury was >significantly suppressed. The potency of thimerosal was similar to >that of methylmercury in the presence of L-cysteine. Both agents at >1 microM or more similarly decreased the cellular content of >glutathione in a concentration-dependent manner, suggesting an >increase in oxidative stress. Results indicate that thimerosal >exerts some cytotoxic actions on cerebellar granule neurons >dissociated from 2-week-old rats and its potency is almost similar >to that of methylmercury. > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? >cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=14698570 > >I had posted this early last year on another group, One of our >people responded with this... > > >It should be noted that this research study compared equal doses of >methylmercury and thimerosal. However, thimerosal is only 1/2 mercury >(ethylmercury), so the authors should have compared 1/2 dose >thimerosal >with 1 dose methylmercury. The conclusion would then be that >ethylmercury is equally potent to methylmercury in increasing Ca2++. >The >study also says that unlike methylmercury (which is usually bound to >cysteine in a cell) thimerosal's potency is unaffected by presence of >L-cysteine in the neuron, so under in vivo conditions the effects of >ethylmercury are likely greater (by a factor or 2) than methyl. >Finally, >the study shows that thimerosal is more potent than methyl in >decreasing >glutathione levels in the cell, which is what other researchers >have/are >finding as well. > > >Im really angry knowing these people are STILL injecting mercury >into infants and pregnant women. > > >Donna > > > > > >> > >> > >> >I have a question Im not sure if you will be able to answer or >not, >> >But I am going to ask anyways!.. >> > >> >The daily limit for " ingesting " mercury is 0.3 mcg, What would be >> >the limit for " injecting " mercury? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Donna >> >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 There is no 'limit' for injecting mercury because the studies have never been done on babies as it is considered 'immoral' to do medical testing on babies. Mercury is deemed safe by injection because of the amount of children that have been injected with mercury containing vaccines with no adverse reactions. (yeah right!!) Babies have a permeable blood/brain barrier which allows anything injected to pass into the brain. Babies do not have a biliary function required to expel heavy metals until six months of age thereby allowing any heavy metals in the system to build up and form a cumulative toxin. Personally, I think the tests are not done because of what the results will show.....and that is.......neurological dysfunction. Better to say the kids were born that way.............sad Joanna Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 10:23 PM 10/25/2004 -0000, you wrote: > > >I have a question Im not sure if you will be able to answer or not, >But I am going to ask anyways!.. > >The daily limit for " ingesting " mercury is 0.3 mcg, What would be >the limit for " injecting " mercury? > >Thanks, > >Donna EPA’s limit of 0.1 mcg per KG/Day guidelines is for ingestion................comes from some original study with some population and fish/mercury consumption - can't remember the details and can't find the original (and this is for methylmercury - the always make another weasel statement that methylmercury is probably more of a problem than ethyl mercury, but again they don't have a clue because they won't look.). Others are looking and are of the opinion it is probably the opposite - ethyl worse than methyl This is for ORAL There is no other statement for injection And this is ONLY a guideline. Not, according to them, or CDC, a hard & fast rule. (gives them lots of weasel room) They have no idea Mercury is 2nd in toxic elements ONLY to uranium. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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