Re: Just Watched 60 Minutes

[Guest guest]

Funny thing I noticed.

When an outbreak is started by someone who is vaccinated against said disease

that never gets mentioned by the media or otherwise. IT is then hushed. When it

starts from an unvaccinated child it is all over and it is freely told.

Happened on this show as well. Go figure!

[Guest guest]

Good take on it April! I think, and I have said this before, they are

trying to turn vaccinating parents into a frenzy over this issue by

bringing up exemptions. They would never even mention it before, but

now they have to have a strategy, because too many of us are using

exemptions. This is a tactic! Those parents that have exemptions will

be blacklisted socially, as will be their children.

This is war folks. It has been for a long, long, time. There have

been times that they knew a study was coming out to prove a

connection, (especially, the O'Leary study on the measles vaccine

virus being found in children's intestines) weeks, or, days before,

and squelched it by putting out a study, or article before it was

supposed to be published.

I'm sure if they have been interviewing since last year, Rather, and

his cronies had the opposing view also. It was a set up pure and

simple.

Does anyone happen to have the links, or have the other CBS news

stories saved on the vaccine issue?

> Naturally Offit hurt the message with his lies. They did let

Barbara Loe Fisher have her say and the NVICwebsite was mentioned and

shown on television. She did get criticism for her beliefs. I have

come to the conclusion that Offit should be sent somewhere where can

have no political control. He said his heart ached for those kids who

did not get their vaccines or poisons. In the end they said that

exemptions are available in most states. They tried to just pin

mercury on vaccine problems saying ever so briefly that mercury is

not in vaccines now. Later on one of anti-vaxxing parents said it is

the mercury or something about the vaccines given.

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> They really did an injustice overall on why these parents who dont

vaccinate are putting themselves at risk. Naturally, the whooping

cough outbreaks recently are the cause of the outbreaks now. They

started out with a child coughing with the whoop sound ever so clear.

They never showed the effects of what vaccines can do video.

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> The general feeling I got out of it is this: Parents who opt out of

poisoning thier kids are putting themselves and others at risk. That

the anti side says there have not been adequete studies but their has

been many studies that says vaccines have nothing to do with autism

or other illnesses. And vaccines are optional for school entry due to

exemptions in most states.

> I am greatful for the very last statement at least.

>

> Offit is such a lying arse it is unbelievable!

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> April

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[Guest guest]

> Does anyone happen to have the links, or have the other CBS news

> stories saved on the vaccine issue?

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Found them. What is that saying? One hand washes the other? Oh how

does that one go? I want to write, and ask if Rather even knew about

what other stories on vaccines his own news organization did?

Also sending the link to our site. Tried like anything to put all

credible links up. There was a lot more I wanted to put up believe

me! Offit's comments about all their studies, and vaccines are

completely safe. Gee, I wonder who paid for those studies??

http://users.adelphia.net/~cdc/

CBS News | Vaccine Links To Autism? | June 23, 2004 01:30:50

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/22/eveningnews/main625458.shtml

Mercury Rising

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/videoplayer/newVid/framesource2.html?

clip=/media/2004/06/12/video622792.wmv & sec=500251 & vidId=50025

[Guest guest]

>This is war folks. It has been for a long, long, time. There have

>been times that they knew a study was coming out to prove a

>connection, (especially, the O'Leary study on the measles vaccine

>virus being found in children's intestines) weeks, or, days before,

>and squelched it by putting out a study, or article before it was

>supposed to be published...

Yup....everything Dan Rather said were fighten words alright. At least now

I have a face to put next to the Offit name. Eeeek, these people...if they

actually think they will get away with it and die " happy " then they really

haven't got a clue.

Kimberley

www.vaccinationsandSIDS.com

[Guest guest]

3 of my kids have been patients of CHOP for years (Kim my oldest for almost

13 yrs) and my 9 1/2 yr old was referred to Offit for a consult for an

immune problem about 4 yrs ago. I have sat opposite this guy before I

became informed about the dangers of vaxes...Id love to be in that position

now!!!...Give him my 2 1/2 cents!!!

I heard now if anyone that is anti-vax tries to talk to him he is very nasty

and very condescending....Still I gotta go to CHOP in a few weeks, maybe I

should drop him off an info/care package (unbiased vax studies and my son's

heavy metal profile). )

MY luck Id get kicked out of the hospital by security before my daughter

even gets to neurosurgery!!!

Ellen

RE: Re: Just Watched 60 Minutes

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> >This is war folks. It has been for a long, long, time. There have

> >been times that they knew a study was coming out to prove a

> >connection, (especially, the O'Leary study on the measles vaccine

> >virus being found in children's intestines) weeks, or, days before,

> >and squelched it by putting out a study, or article before it was

> >supposed to be published...

>

> Yup....everything Dan Rather said were fighten words alright. At least

now

> I have a face to put next to the Offit name. Eeeek, these people...if

they

> actually think they will get away with it and die " happy " then they really

> haven't got a clue.

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> Kimberley

> www.vaccinationsandSIDS.com

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[Guest guest]

At 07:35 PM 10/20/2004 -0500, you wrote:

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>Funny thing I noticed.

>When an outbreak is started by someone who is vaccinated against said

disease that never gets mentioned by the media or otherwise. IT is then

hushed. When it starts from an unvaccinated child it is all over and it is

freely told.

>

>Happened on this show as well. Go figure!

Aren't you curious how an outbreak 'gets started'? Can it start from

nowhere? How can they say it 'started' with an unvaxed or a vaxed. They

just start?

Sheri

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[Guest guest]

Good Point Sherry. I have wondered how they determine such things myself. They

will look to blame the unvaccinated regardless or whenever they can get away

with it.

At 07:35 PM 10/20/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>

>Funny thing I noticed.

>When an outbreak is started by someone who is vaccinated against said

disease that never gets mentioned by the media or otherwise. IT is then

hushed. When it starts from an unvaccinated child it is all over and it is

freely told.

>

>Happened on this show as well. Go figure!

Aren't you curious how an outbreak 'gets started'? Can it start from

nowhere? How can they say it 'started' with an unvaxed or a vaxed. They

just start?

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

<<<<This is war folks. It has been for a

long, long, time. There have

been times that they knew a study was

coming out to prove a

connection, (especially, the O'Leary

study on the measles vaccine

virus being found in children's

intestines) weeks, or, days before,

and squelched it by putting out a study,

or article before it was

supposed to be published.

I'm sure if they have been interviewing

since last year, Rather, and

his cronies had the opposing view also.

It was a set up pure and

simple.>>>>>

BINGO!! I've been trying to figure out

why all the press coverage recently and

you hit the nail on the head!!

DISTRACTION is being used because the

studies are backing them to the wall.

They're getting desperate. Whooping

cough is showing up so this is the one

they will emphasize and twist into being

life threatening. We can only hope that

the parents who don't vax and their

children do contract it, will be

prepared to treat it with homeopathy,

etc. ANYTHING but running off to the

MD. If they do that, the child may die

from the MD treatment.

So, as Kay and others on this list have

mentioned: not vaxing must be

accompanied by proper care other then

medical. And encouraging parents not to

vax must also be accompanied by this

knowledge.