Re: Quarantine used in Iowa to contain measles

October 24, 2004

I'm sorry if I'm sounding a bit dumb...but I still don't understand

this " reverse quarantine " thing. What is the good of quarantining a

non-immunised child during an outbreak of a contagious disease.

don't we all want our children to be exposed to the natural form of

these diseases so they can obtain immunity that way. Are the

authorities enforcing quarantine because they are trying to protect

our non-immunised children from the disease?? Why aren't they

quarantining the ones with the disease? Sorry everyone, doesn't

make any sense to me.

Deb

> " Totally susceptible " - Read " unvaxed " ?

>

> Love, light and peace,

>

> Sue

>

> " Learn from the mistakes of others--you can never live long enough

to make

> them all yourself. " - Luther

>

> ------------------------------------------------------

>

http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2004/10/22/eline/links/20041022e

lin025.

> html

>

> Quarantine used in Iowa to contain measles

>

> Last Updated: 2004-10-22 15:15:28 -0400 (Reuters Health)

>

> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A measles outbreak earlier this year

was

> contained by instituting quarantine measures after exposed persons

refused

> post-exposure preventative treatment, according to a report from

the Iowa

> Department of Pubic Health and other state offices.

>

> As described in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report,

local and

> state health departments contacted people exposed to a student

returning to

> Iowa from India who had come down with measles.

>

> Two of these contacts caught measles, and people exposed to them

were also

> identified.

>

> Altogether, approximately 200 persons were given post-exposure

prophylaxis

> (PEP), consisting of measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccination

within three

> days of exposure or immune globulin within six days.

>

> Two of the three infected people belonged to " an insular community

with low

> vaccination rates, " the authors explain. All susceptible members

of the

> community were offered PEP, but seven individuals refused.

>

> The seven were served with state-issued involuntary home

quarantine orders

> for two weeks. Compliance was monitored with unannounced home

visits or

> telephone calls.

>

> " A lot of things went into our decision to use quarantine, " Dr.

> Quinlisk, with the Iowa Department of Public Health in Des Moines,

told

> Reuters Health.

>

> " For example, the highly infectious nature of measles; the fact

that in some

> of the communities a large percentage of the people were totally

susceptible

> to measles; the fact that measles can be a serious disease,

especially in

> adults; and that the community had large daily gatherings which

would have

> allowed measles to be transmitted. "

>

> This episode " was sort of a dry run should something happen that

is more

> catastrophic, " Quinlisk commented. " I think it has made us more

aware of how

> the system did work quite well in lot of ways. "

>

> An editorial note with the report points out that all states have

the

> authority to detain persons under quarantine laws.

>

> The authors recommend that states that have not recently reviewed

their

> quarantine laws do so, specifically reviewing issues of quarantine

> authority, such as what diseases would be covered and how

quarantine is to

> be enforced, as well as jurisdictional considerations and due

process

> concerns.

>

> " The bottom line is that we have to stop people from getting sick

if at all

> possible, and if (quarantine) is what it takes, we should not be

afraid to

> use it, after all other methods such as PEP are tried first, "

Quinlisk

> added.

>

> " The other thing we have to realize is that even in places as

homogeneous as

> Iowa, we have to be able to work with people within their own

subcultural

> setting to protect people's health. Most people, once you explain

what needs

> to be done, will comply. "

>

> SOURCE: Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, October 22, 2004.

October 24, 2004

No Deb, they're quarantining non-immunised people to stop them spreading it.

Trying to protect the general population from infected/exposed people who

refuse the post-exposure prophylaxis - i.e. the immuno-globulin injections.

Fine indictment of the MMR for the so-called *immunised* community, eh?

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" Learn from the mistakes of others--you can never live long enough to make

them all yourself. " - Luther

> Re: Quarantine used in Iowa to contain measles

>

> I'm sorry if I'm sounding a bit dumb...but I still don't understand

> this " reverse quarantine " thing. What is the good of quarantining a

> non-immunised child during an outbreak of a contagious disease.

> don't we all want our children to be exposed to the natural form of

> these diseases so they can obtain immunity that way. Are the

> authorities enforcing quarantine because they are trying to protect

> our non-immunised children from the disease?? Why aren't they

> quarantining the ones with the disease? Sorry everyone, doesn't

> make any sense to me.

>

> Deb

>

> > " Totally susceptible " - Read " unvaxed " ?

> >

> > Love, light and peace,

> >

> > Sue

> >

> > " Learn from the mistakes of others--you can never live long enough

> to make

> > them all yourself. " - Luther

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------

> >

> http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2004/10/22/eline/links/20041022e

> lin025.

> > html

> >

> > Quarantine used in Iowa to contain measles

> >

> > Last Updated: 2004-10-22 15:15:28 -0400 (Reuters Health)

> >

> > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A measles outbreak earlier this year

> was

> > contained by instituting quarantine measures after exposed persons

> refused

> > post-exposure preventative treatment, according to a report from

> the Iowa

> > Department of Pubic Health and other state offices.

> >

> > As described in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report,

> local and

> > state health departments contacted people exposed to a student

> returning to

> > Iowa from India who had come down with measles.

> >

> > Two of these contacts caught measles, and people exposed to them

> were also

> > identified.

> >

> > Altogether, approximately 200 persons were given post-exposure

> prophylaxis

> > (PEP), consisting of measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccination

> within three

> > days of exposure or immune globulin within six days.

> >

> > Two of the three infected people belonged to " an insular community

> with low

> > vaccination rates, " the authors explain. All susceptible members

> of the

> > community were offered PEP, but seven individuals refused.

> >

> > The seven were served with state-issued involuntary home

> quarantine orders

> > for two weeks. Compliance was monitored with unannounced home

> visits or

> > telephone calls.

> >

> > " A lot of things went into our decision to use quarantine, " Dr.

>

> > Quinlisk, with the Iowa Department of Public Health in Des Moines,

> told

> > Reuters Health.

> >

> > " For example, the highly infectious nature of measles; the fact

> that in some

> > of the communities a large percentage of the people were totally

> susceptible

> > to measles; the fact that measles can be a serious disease,

> especially in

> > adults; and that the community had large daily gatherings which

> would have

> > allowed measles to be transmitted. "

> >

> > This episode " was sort of a dry run should something happen that

> is more

> > catastrophic, " Quinlisk commented. " I think it has made us more

> aware of how

> > the system did work quite well in lot of ways. "

> >

> > An editorial note with the report points out that all states have

> the

> > authority to detain persons under quarantine laws.

> >

> > The authors recommend that states that have not recently reviewed

> their

> > quarantine laws do so, specifically reviewing issues of quarantine

> > authority, such as what diseases would be covered and how

> quarantine is to

> > be enforced, as well as jurisdictional considerations and due

> process

> > concerns.

> >

> > " The bottom line is that we have to stop people from getting sick

> if at all

> > possible, and if (quarantine) is what it takes, we should not be

> afraid to

> > use it, after all other methods such as PEP are tried first, "

> Quinlisk

> > added.

> >

> > " The other thing we have to realize is that even in places as

> homogeneous as

> > Iowa, we have to be able to work with people within their own

> subcultural

> > setting to protect people's health. Most people, once you explain

> what needs

> > to be done, will comply. "

> >

> > SOURCE: Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, October 22, 2004.

>

October 27, 2004

In a message dated 10/27/2004 10:18:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Vaccinefree@... writes:

Yeah I see what you're saying. It would only annoy me if my kids DIDN " T

catch whatever was going around...... my son is 5 years old, and I'm a little

worried that he's not even caught chicken pox yet.

My 6 year old hasn't gotten them yet either and she was sent home from

school last year for the entire incubation period when there was a case of

chicken

pox in school. I asked the nurse to tell me who it was so that I could

expose her but she wasn't allowed to tell me. It really does make no sense to

me

either. I don't need or want her to be protected from getting them and

yeah, why would the vaccinated kids be worried about my daughter.

I think it is a stupid new health law in Ma and elsewhere!

Love,

Mavis

" Some people walk in the rain,

others just get wet "

-

October 27, 2004

I'm not sure about the quarantine, but if there is an outbreak of anything here

- my child will get send home from school because he is not vaccinated - why? I

have no idea, surely all the children that ARE vaccinated are protected, so

perhaps they're doing that to protect MY SON? Don't know why they feel the NEED

to protect him..... its odd. Perhaps its also another way to SCARE people into

vaccinating.

Chelly

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