Re: My Chicken Pox Story.

[Guest guest]

What if you suppressed them.

Its best to allow chicken pox to fully manifest and for the rash to be

allowed to do its job and get the disease out of the system

Rash gone does NOT mean better, it usually means suppressed which can have

severe consequences

Sheri

At 01:24 PM 04/09/2004 -0000, you wrote:

> This acctually happened about a month ago - I just didn't think to

>post it until now. The Zapper I'm talking about is Dr Hulda s

>Zapper. http://www..net/

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>Monday night I couldn't work out why 3 huge mosquito bites appeared

>on my leg after I'd gone beserk with the Aeroguard at my sons cricket

>practice earlier. I had a cough and slight fever Monday night, but

>because we have been having a heat wave, I just thourght it was the

>heat and had Asthma from it. Tuesday night I had 6 'bites' on my leg

>and I couldn't work out what had been biting me. When I finished work

>I had these 'bites' on both legs so I panicked an did a scabies

>treatment. The next day, (yesterday,) I woke up and they'ed

>multiplied and were working their way up my body, which was when I

>realised I had Chicken Pox. A phone call from a friend verified this -

> her daughter came down with Chicken Pox 2 days after I visited 3

>weeks ago.

>Guess what - I'm better all ready! I Zapped at about 11am and no new

>spots appeared after that. I took 15 grammes of vitamin C and 20ml of

>high ppm Colloidal Silver, (CS). Within two hours after Zapping the

>spots I did have had shrunk and some had totally dissareared! I then

>applied high ppm CS gel to 1 leg and both arms - the ithching went

>away almost imeadiatly and most of the remaining spots crusted over

>or disapeared whilst they didn't on the rest of my body. By the time

>I got to the Doctor at 4.30 there was not alot left to diagnose, but

>luckelly I had the 1 leg with some spots and a few on my shoulder. (I

>could see the Dr was really confussed, lol!) I have a work exemption

>certificate that says Chicken Pox, and I had a blood test done too.

>From 4pm onwards I took 20ml of CS hourly and 5 grammes of vitamin C

>every few hours and Zapped for most of the evening. The remaining

>spots on suddenly flared up at 11pm so I applied CS and Zapped for

>half the night as I fell asleep. Woke up today and there's barely a

>mark on me! Even the spots that crusted over are minute and barely

>visable - TINY! I doubt I'll scar at all.

>I think 3 days from start to finish is amazing!!!

>

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[Guest guest]

We'll just have to disagree on this, I don't belive I supressed

anything, I belive I quashed! I do urge people to check out Dr Hulda

s site and Zapper information generally. Also Dr Beck.

If this had happened two years or more ago, I would have treated

myself with vitamin C mega doses and fasting - I would expect simular

results. That's certainly not suppression either.

A Zapper is an electronic device that basically electricutes

viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites. Colloidal Silver kills them

by means of suffocation.

Dr Hulda on Zapping.

http://www.curezone.com/clark/zapping.asp

" It takes three treatments to kill everything. Why? The first

zapping kills viruses, bacteria and parasites. But a few minutes

later, bacteria and viruses (different ones) often recur. I conclude

they had been infecting the parasites, and killing the parasites

released them. The second zapping kills the released viruses and

bacteria, but soon a few viruses appear again. They must have been

infecting some of the last bacteria. After a third zapping I never

find any viruses, bacteria or parasites, even hours later. "

Another Zapper site - slightly different version of the

Zapper http://www.earthtransitions.com/zapper/orgone_zapper.htm

Dr Beck http://www.doctor-of-the-future.com/drbeck.htm

You can build a Zapper for about $10 - lots of sites on-line have

the details you need. I've had my Zapper for about 18 months now, and

I've only had positive results.

~ Jowanna.

> > This acctually happened about a month ago - I just didn't think

to

> >post it until now. The Zapper I'm talking about is Dr Hulda s

> >Zapper. http://www..net/

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >Monday night I couldn't work out why 3 huge mosquito bites

appeared

> >on my leg after I'd gone beserk with the Aeroguard at my sons

cricket

> >practice earlier. I had a cough and slight fever Monday night, but

> >because we have been having a heat wave, I just thourght it was

the

> >heat and had Asthma from it. Tuesday night I had 6 'bites' on my

leg

> >and I couldn't work out what had been biting me. When I finished

work

> >I had these 'bites' on both legs so I panicked an did a scabies

> >treatment. The next day, (yesterday,) I woke up and they'ed

> >multiplied and were working their way up my body, which was when I

> >realised I had Chicken Pox. A phone call from a friend verified

this -

> > her daughter came down with Chicken Pox 2 days after I visited 3

> >weeks ago.

> >Guess what - I'm better all ready! I Zapped at about 11am and no

new

> >spots appeared after that. I took 15 grammes of vitamin C and 20ml

of

> >high ppm Colloidal Silver, (CS). Within two hours after Zapping

the

> >spots I did have had shrunk and some had totally dissareared! I

then

> >applied high ppm CS gel to 1 leg and both arms - the ithching went

> >away almost imeadiatly and most of the remaining spots crusted

over

> >or disapeared whilst they didn't on the rest of my body. By the

time

> >I got to the Doctor at 4.30 there was not alot left to diagnose,

but

> >luckelly I had the 1 leg with some spots and a few on my shoulder.

(I

> >could see the Dr was really confussed, lol!) I have a work

exemption

> >certificate that says Chicken Pox, and I had a blood test done

too.

> >From 4pm onwards I took 20ml of CS hourly and 5 grammes of vitamin

C

> >every few hours and Zapped for most of the evening. The remaining

> >spots on suddenly flared up at 11pm so I applied CS and Zapped for

> >half the night as I fell asleep. Woke up today and there's barely

a

> >mark on me! Even the spots that crusted over are minute and barely

> >visable - TINY! I doubt I'll scar at all.

> >I think 3 days from start to finish is amazing!!!

> >

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

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> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

I have been following this thread and would like to add my own chicken pox

story:o)

We purposefully exposed all four of our children to chicken pox a few months

ago. Only one came down with it at first. She had a slight fever and just

felt yucky for a couple days before the spots came out. When they did, she was

fine for a day. Then her very strong Vital Force pushed the disease to the

surface and she got lots of spots. She cried for an hour or so and complained

that the spots were burning and itchy. I gave her a dose of Sulphur 30c (her

constitutional remedy) and she immediately felt better. This was all she

needed and the disease resolved nicely after that.

Two weeks later, two more children came down with the chicken pox. WOW did

they get a lot of spots. My son never got anything and he did fine. The baby

cried quite a bit and had lots of symptoms pointing to Sulphur. One dose of

30c, and a couple days later one dose of Pulsatilla 30c. Nothing more and she

also recovered well.

Two weeks later, my oldest got them. She had a mild case and never got a

thing other than the constitutional remedy she has been working with for some

time. She also recovered well.

I feel very good about having the chicken pox and dealing with them in this

way. I have no doubt I allowed my childrens bodies to do what they needed to

do. If I had " zapped " or given steriods, or anything else, I would worry about

future affects from the disease.

[Guest guest]

No, that is NOT what I'm doing at all, and that is most certainly

NOT what I belive either! That is quite insulting. Have you read up

on Dr Hulda ?

~ Jowanna.

> > We'll just have to disagree on this, I don't belive I supressed

> >anything, I belive I quashed! I do urge people to check out Dr

Hulda

> >s site and Zapper information generally. Also Dr Beck.

> > If this had happened two years or more ago, I would have treated

> >myself with vitamin C mega doses and fasting - I would expect

simular

> >results. That's certainly not suppression either.

> > A Zapper is an electronic device that basically electricutes

> >viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites. Colloidal Silver kills

them

> >by means of suffocation.

> >

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

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> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Yes I do understand what viruses and bacteria do from more than one

angle. If you read Dr s research you'll see that benificial

bacteria are not harmed. It's to do with the frequency of the Zapper.

I trust you know about frequencies and vibrations, and that wasn't

meant to sound sarcastic!

I posted a quote from Dr stating that Zapping DOES kill

viruses and bacteria, so no matter what said, that's what Dr

Hulda said. (Again it's to do with frequency, so may

have just read studies dealing with frequencies that kill only

parasites. The early model Zappers dealt with just 1 thing at a time.)

As I've said and continue to say, I don't belive it's surpressing.

Infact as to how I feel I would say it's helping my immune system

function as it should.

That's my opinion, you have yours. Both of us have done alot of

reading to get the opinions we have, and both of us get positive

results from practising what we belive. Both of us CAN be practising

something that is beneficial and harmless, just different that's all.

I don't see why one approach has to be considered wrong, even if it

it does seem to blatently contradict the other.

I'm not going to crap on about this much more. I think Dr Hulda

s results speak for themselves. If anyone wondered, she is a

natropath. Not that that nessesarilly = great or anything...

~ Jowanna.

'It's all true, even the contradictions!' Lydon. (-:

> >> > We'll just have to disagree on this, I don't belive I

supressed

> >> >anything, I belive I quashed! I do urge people to check out Dr

> >Hulda

> >> >s site and Zapper information generally. Also Dr

Beck.

> >> > If this had happened two years or more ago, I would have

treated

> >> >myself with vitamin C mega doses and fasting - I would expect

> >simular

> >> >results. That's certainly not suppression either.

> >> > A Zapper is an electronic device that basically electricutes

> >> >viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites. Colloidal Silver kills

> >them

> >> >by means of suffocation.

> >> >

> >> --------------------------------------------------------

> >> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> >> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales

UK

> >> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

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> >> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

> >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> >> Homeopathy On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> >> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> >> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

> >ALONE.

> >>

> >> ******

> >> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

> >down.

> >> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

> >destroy

> >> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

> >information

> >> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My son caught Chicken Pox several years ago. I just gave him

vitamin C and let him soak in sea water a little. He had no

discomfort at all, not too many spots though a substantial amount and

the whole thing took about 4 days from start to finish. He barely

even itched.

Within my family, (totally unvaccinated for at least 6 generations

on both my maternal grandparents side,) no-one is ever / has ever

been sick for very long. Usually no more that 24 hours max. That

includes with any of the infectious childhood diseases. So far almost

everyone has died naturally from old age too. We put it down to

healthy living - mostly no forms of treatment natural or otherwise

have ever been needed. I'm the exception to the rule, though as an

adult that is my fault for leading my lifestyle of choice. I'm really

not worried about possible long term effects from Zapping Chicken

Pox. IF there should be any, I'm quite sure they can be overcome by

various forms of natural or alternative therepy. I belive anything

can. Perhaps by the time that happens I'll be ready to make lifestyle

changes anyway (-: That's my choice though and one that plenty of

others would make too.

I fully respect that people may want to let diseases run their

cause - especially children. My choice there is to supliment with

vitamin C rather than use Homeopathic medicine although I do and have

used Homeopathics in other areas.

~ Jowanna.

> I have been following this thread and would like to add my own

chicken pox

> story:o)

>

> We purposefully exposed all four of our children to chicken pox a

few months

> ago. Only one came down with it at first. She had a slight fever

and just

> felt yucky for a couple days before the spots came out. When they

did, she was

> fine for a day. Then her very strong Vital Force pushed the

disease to the

> surface and she got lots of spots. She cried for an hour or so and

complained

> that the spots were burning and itchy. I gave her a dose of

Sulphur 30c (her

> constitutional remedy) and she immediately felt better. This was

all she

> needed and the disease resolved nicely after that.

> Two weeks later, two more children came down with the chicken pox.

WOW did

> they get a lot of spots. My son never got anything and he did

fine. The baby

> cried quite a bit and had lots of symptoms pointing to Sulphur.

One dose of

> 30c, and a couple days later one dose of Pulsatilla 30c. Nothing

more and she

> also recovered well.

> Two weeks later, my oldest got them. She had a mild case and never

got a

> thing other than the constitutional remedy she has been working

with for some

> time. She also recovered well.

> I feel very good about having the chicken pox and dealing with them

in this

> way. I have no doubt I allowed my childrens bodies to do what they

needed to

> do. If I had " zapped " or given steriods, or anything else, I would

worry about

> future affects from the disease.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, I just don't agree. I know what you're saying, I just

disagree. Acctually that's not true is it because I do agree with

what you're saying! I am just saying that what you have said is one

approach to healing - there are many others too which also work even

if the approach and philosophy are totally different. Some things do

contradict, or not make sense, so what?! If at the end of the day we

both feel good and have made the right choice for ourselves, who

cares?!

~ Jowanna.

> > Yes I do understand what viruses and bacteria do from more than

one

> >angle. If you read Dr s research you'll see that benificial

> >bacteria are not harmed. It's to do with the frequency of the

Zapper.

> >I trust you know about frequencies and vibrations, and that wasn't

> >meant to sound sarcastic!

>

> But Jowanna - all bacteria are beneficial......ALL bacteria.

> That is the key here that I'm trying to explain

>

> > I posted a quote from Dr stating that Zapping DOES kill

> >viruses and bacteria, so no matter what said, that's what

Dr

> >Hulda said. (Again it's to do with frequency, so may

> >have just read studies dealing with frequencies that kill only

> >parasites. The early model Zappers dealt with just 1 thing at a

time.)

> > As I've said and continue to say, I don't belive it's

surpressing.

> >Infact as to how I feel I would say it's helping my immune system

> >function as it should.

>

> If they zap viruses and bacteria then they are not doing us any

favors

>

> > That's my opinion, you have yours. Both of us have done alot of

> >reading to get the opinions we have, and both of us get positive

> >results from practising what we belive. Both of us CAN be

practising

> >something that is beneficial and harmless, just different that's

all.

> >I don't see why one approach has to be considered wrong, even if

it

> >it does seem to blatently contradict the other.

> > I'm not going to crap on about this much more. I think Dr Hulda

> >s results speak for themselves. If anyone wondered, she is a

> >natropath. Not that that nessesarilly = great or anything..

>

> It is about the concept of health and illness and the basis for

everything

> Anti-disease, anti-virus, anti-bacteria is allopathy and is

suppressive and

> does not assist the body

> Allowing viruses, bacteria, the vital force to assist them to do

their job

> is when healing comes

>

> They do contradict each other

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

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> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Thank you! That's exactly why I posted. I like Homeopathy too, I

just think there are other options which can also be taken into

consideration. I was interested to read your story - it's always good

to read positive stories about infectious childhood disease rather

than the doom and gloom stories we hear on the news etc. (-:

(The next bit's not directed to you personally!)

This list as a whole seems to often push Homeopathy as if it's the

be all end all. I for one would like to hear more about other types

of treatment too. I think it's dangerous not to acknowledge that

there are other things out there that do get results, even if we

don't agree with them. Homeopathy isn't for everyone and it's

dangerous to act like it is.

Dr Hulda s' teachings have helped and cured alot of people I

think it's VERY big to say that none of these people should have

Zapped!

~ Jowanna.

P.S. I see all the 'pro-bacteria' posts that have gone up probably

in response to 'My Chicken Pox story.' I am familiar with the work of

Bechamp, (Bought books etc 10+ years ago,) Rife etc. I was

skeptical / apprehensive about the Zapper partly because of what I

had read on Bechamp and others.

> > I have been following this thread and would like to add my own

> chicken pox

> > story:o)

> >

> > We purposefully exposed all four of our children to chicken pox

a

> few months

> > ago. Only one came down with it at first. She had a slight

fever

> and just

> > felt yucky for a couple days before the spots came out. When

they

> did, she was

> > fine for a day. Then her very strong Vital Force pushed the

> disease to the

> > surface and she got lots of spots. She cried for an hour or so

and

> complained

> > that the spots were burning and itchy. I gave her a dose of

> Sulphur 30c (her

> > constitutional remedy) and she immediately felt better. This

was

> all she

> > needed and the disease resolved nicely after that.

> > Two weeks later, two more children came down with the chicken

pox.

> WOW did

> > they get a lot of spots. My son never got anything and he did

> fine. The baby

> > cried quite a bit and had lots of symptoms pointing to Sulphur.

> One dose of

> > 30c, and a couple days later one dose of Pulsatilla 30c.

Nothing

> more and she

> > also recovered well.

> > Two weeks later, my oldest got them. She had a mild case and

never

> got a

> > thing other than the constitutional remedy she has been working

> with for some

> > time. She also recovered well.

> > I feel very good about having the chicken pox and dealing with

them

> in this

> > way. I have no doubt I allowed my childrens bodies to do what

they

> needed to

> > do. If I had " zapped " or given steriods, or anything else, I

would

> worry about

> > future affects from the disease.

> >

> >>